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gbjenna
12-15-2020, 02:32 AM
Have so many guys atm who used to be regs/alright spenders who now don’t spent a penny but think it’s okay to park themselves in my room chatting like we’re best friends. They’ve had enough chances now, they’re all getting blocked. There’s really no excuse for coming in my room over and over again without even coughing up a dollar tip.

I’ve had some turn like this recently, go from great spenders to making blatant attempts at freeloading. I don’t mind if some pop in for a quick chat now once every so often between shows but it really rubs me up the wrong way when they obviously just EXPECT to be able to sit there chatting on multiple occasions for absolutely ages with zero intention of spending.
I sit there and ignore them or take ages to reply to anything they write and they start to get the message. They just ruin it for themselves when they take the piss. Maybe it gets to that point cause I’m a bit lenient and don’t make them tip every single time they chat though.

wealthmagnet
12-15-2020, 03:12 AM
Maybe email Liz. I think that’s really important to get answers on.

I'm sure she wouldn't be able to discuss that with models on an individual level. Recently they went and launched Eplay, so i just find the timing really interesting. Nonetheless, many cam girls only have 1 stream of income and are survial sexworkers. Just makes me sad how there's never any transparency. But it makes me even more thankful for this forum and all of you

naughtybabe1
12-15-2020, 06:01 AM
this morning is sooooooooo sloooooooowwwww! nothing but in and outs and deadbeats. ugh...why do i do mornings?? they are either feast or famine!

whirlerz
12-15-2020, 06:38 AM
this morning is sooooooooo sloooooooowwwww! nothing but in and outs and deadbeats. ugh...why do i do mornings?? they are either feast or famine!

Same.^
The Birate thing's in yellow, sometimes red

naughtybabe1
12-15-2020, 07:53 AM
Same.^
The Birate thing's in yellow, sometimes red

oh fuk this. 3 hrs and $36. I give up. NOT worth it. I"ll do a long and early night shift. Screw it. Off to bed and a nap. Good luck ladies!

JustMilfnAround
12-15-2020, 10:17 AM
My feed is actually good but no traffic. Anyone else notice when their feed is good there is no traffic, but when it is fucked up the traffic is good? It's the damndest thing.....

ChristieX
12-15-2020, 11:53 AM
Have you noticed all the new girls with the suffix babestaion, flooded with them in the UK. They must have had a recruitment drive to get a studio going.

ChristieX
12-15-2020, 11:59 AM
How do you tell where you are actually placed? Obviously looks different on a laptop/pc/phone/tablet because of the size restrictions.
I hear girls saying "I'm one page 2 row 6" etc. But that's going to depend on what you're looking on. I'm in the UK and have a VPN so move from the UK to the US when the time of day is more productive to be on the other side of the pond.
Been on SM for just over a month now so fallen off the new girls boost.

KatM
12-15-2020, 01:27 PM
^^^ can u elaborate on this pls? Cause in order to change location on sm u need to enter display country settings and choose from the countries listed there and it takes at least 12 hrs to update. Just changing ur ip address through vpn does not change location on site. Did u actually looked urself on site to see what county is displayed when u change the ip to Usa?!

wealthmagnet
12-15-2020, 01:30 PM
oh fuk this. 3 hrs and $36. I give up. NOT worth it. I"ll do a long and early night shift. Screw it. Off to bed and a nap. Good luck ladies!


I'm going 20-30+ minutes in between members entering my room. i can count on 1 hand how many people have spoken to me in the hours I've been on. and my stream and placement is fine. so i feel you!

Jodyjensen
12-15-2020, 01:34 PM
I'm going 20-30+ minutes in between members entering my room. i can count on 1 hand how many people have spoken to me in the hours I've been on. and my stream and placement is fine. so i feel you!

I’ve literally just posted the same thing on the STFO thread! 30mins in and can count the number of guys who’ve came in on one hand. Only two have spoken to me but quickly left. Ahhh I hope it picks up!!

wealthmagnet
12-15-2020, 01:51 PM
I’ve literally just posted the same thing on the STFO thread! 30mins in and can count the number of guys who’ve came in on one hand. Only two have spoken to me but quickly left. Ahhh I hope it picks up!!


not to sound entitled or negative but i thought that's why they take a whopping 65% of our earnings for, to market and promote us. why are only a few rooms busy but the rest of us sit for hours with little to no traffic and earnings that can't even buy a happymeal?? I'm sorry to rant but something just doesn't add up to me. yes we have the option to drive our own traffic for a bigger % but it seems like we HAVE to if we want any real chance of making anything most days.

DeliveryLadyx
12-15-2020, 01:59 PM
38 minutes online and I had 8 guys entering my room. and I am first page, row6-9 depending on the number of models. just anormal, seriously. no freeloaders, nothing. what the hell? is my only source of income. if things doesn't pick up by the end of this week am gonna search for new eggs because exclusivity doesn't pay off for me now for 3 weeks and seems to get worse.

ChristieX
12-15-2020, 02:05 PM
^^^ can u elaborate on this pls? Cause in order to change location on sm u need to enter display country settings and choose from the countries listed there and it takes at least 12 hrs to update. Just changing ur ip address through vpn does not change location on site. Did u actually looked urself on site to see what county is displayed when u change the ip to Usa?!
It changes almost immediately for me. When I'm in the UK i have a British flag, I change location via my VPN (Express VPN) and within a few minutes I have a US flag. I don't have to go anywhere near the display country settings.

whirlerz
12-15-2020, 02:50 PM
No fucking sound.
Just filled out a form & sent it in.
Had a good customer too!>:(

Was on all day, did a couple shows, no one else complained

Ok nvr mind, he said it works now::)

Erika_Xstacy
12-15-2020, 02:59 PM
It changes almost immediately for me. When I'm in the UK i have a British flag, I change location via my VPN (Express VPN) and within a few minutes I have a US flag. I don't have to go anywhere near the display country settings.
Thats crazy. I use different vpn and I have to physically change mine

Genoveve
12-15-2020, 03:12 PM
No fucking sound.
Just filled out a form & sent it in.
Had a good customer too!>:(

Was on all day, did a couple shows, no one else complained

Ok nvr mind, he said it works now::)

This happens to me all the time, and has for a long time, and I just assume it's a fuck up on their end. 9 times out of 10 they figure out how to fix it and then have sound.

ChristieX
12-15-2020, 03:19 PM
This happens to me all the time, and has for a long time, and I just assume it's a fuck up on their end. 9 times out of 10 they figure out how to fix it and then have sound.
I get this sometimes. I’ll be talking away then all the sudden they start to say they can’t hear me. Look at the sound bars and no movement. I have to change from my webcam mic to laptop mic and it comes back

Erika_Xstacy
12-15-2020, 03:20 PM
I'm sure she wouldn't be able to discuss that with models on an individual level. Recently they went and launched Eplay, so i just find the timing really interesting. Nonetheless, many cam girls only have 1 stream of income and are survial sexworkers. Just makes me sad how there's never any transparency. But it makes me even more thankful for this forum and all of you

i can't find the op when you asked if we should be worried.

naturally, all of us need to have a little back up plan bc we work in a grey area. there is no transparency as adult work falls under a grey business. there is no black and white.
this business is ran with loose ends, no knots tied with the outside world and rules for our safety to work do not exist. working on the internet is scarier (minus a pandemic, Id say it is the safest) bc the plug can be pulled any minute.
we are the first to blame for any sin. lol

within our working environment I feel we need more transparency but I'm truly happy to hit "start show" every day, even the days im a irritated bitch

Erika_Xstacy
12-15-2020, 03:32 PM
I get this sometimes. I’ll be talking away then all the sudden they start to say they can’t hear me. Look at the sound bars and no movement. I have to change from my webcam mic to laptop mic and it comes back

mine sound is triggered when I plug a device anywhere on my pc while streaming, phone, ecig - it switches my sounds on smconnect

naughtybabe1
12-15-2020, 03:46 PM
38 minutes online and I had 8 guys entering my room. and I am first page, row6-9 depending on the number of models. just anormal, seriously. no freeloaders, nothing. what the hell? is my only source of income. if things doesn't pick up by the end of this week am gonna search for new eggs because exclusivity doesn't pay off for me now for 3 weeks and seems to get worse.


I hear you..really! My experience from this morning really hit me hard. I've had slow times but those 3 hours were the slowest I"ve had in a long time...as in i can't remember how bad. But you know what? I know mornings can be hit and miss so it's really put a fire under my ass to get back on the night shift that i did last year. I haven't just because I"ve been a lazy ass baby. NO MORE! My ass is on tonight during the "busy time" and if it's not..then i'll log off..take a break and go back on. I know the times that work for me. Yes there are other times I make bank but the night shift is best for me. It just is. I'm glad I had to bear the "slow pain" of that 3 hour shift and only $36. Makes me feel like a failure because I know I could have got on earlier and worked and those 3 hours wouldn't have mattered.
Sometimes the cam gods just need to remind you what's what. That's what happened to me today.
I'm so glad for this forum. I know we are all going through a slow time. I honestly think it's due to the pandemic. Shit was great in the beginning because guys were trapped at home and still had jobs and income. 9 months later...that income is nearly drained or they aren't spending. But keep in mind, the vaccine is here and this will get better soon. It's still several months away but it will happen. Not the previous normal but a new one. Hang in there ladies..!

wealthmagnet
12-15-2020, 03:51 PM
i can't find the op when you asked if we should be worried.

naturally, all of us need to have a little back up plan bc we work in a grey area. there is no transparency as adult work falls under a grey business. there is no black and white.
this business is ran with loose ends, no knots tied with the outside world and rules for our safety to work do not exist. working on the internet is scarier (minus a pandemic, Id say it is the safest) bc the plug can be pulled any minute.
we are the first to blame for any sin. lol

within our working environment I feel we need more transparency but I'm truly happy to hit "start show" every day, even the days im a irritated bitch


Well said! 100% agreed. And amen to that, it's smart to have a backup plan for sure

minibagel
12-15-2020, 03:56 PM
Ok, I'm not sure if anyone saw my original post about this, but whenever I search for my username on Streamate, I can't find it. Did they delete my account? Is that why I haven't been getting any traffic the past 3 nights? Even when I'm online, I search for my user and can't find anything. It keeps saying no matching search results. Super weird. Anyone ever experience this?


Me too, when I click "View on Streamate" from the dashboard I can't see my profile or stream anymore. Only my cammodels link. Traffic has been really bad lately and too slow and empty for me to have the patience to put in many hours! Last week I managed 10 total hours. I started camming on SM last fall and could reliably hit goal most shifts until October.

It seems like the traffic went downhill around October soon after they removed "stream with SM Connect for Priority Placement". At times I feel like I must be buried on page 100000 or something, nowhere to be seen or discovered by any new people!

anonamiss
12-15-2020, 04:53 PM
Not to be snarky but I don’t know why Liz as a SM employee would be telling an independent contractor about a companies merchant accounts. Best case you will get a stock answer, as they should. I would be concerned if they were just letting that out. They probably don’t have a plan.

We are not employees they truly don’t have to tell us anything.

But there is a thread on here to take a look at as well as on other SW resources that I am sure will be updated once events unfold.

I generally agree with what you're saying, however I will note that last year when AB-5 was a big stressful topic for California models, I reached out to Liz directly because there were otherwise so many rumors and speculation and misinformation floating around. She got back to me with a surprisingly informative/in-depth response regarding how/why Streamate as a company decided to take on California models as employees to be compliant with the new law.

So it is possible that she might provide some answers/clarity regarding the recent PornHub/credit card situation and how it could hypothetically pertain to Streamate. But I also wouldn't count on it, and if anyone does plan to send her message looking for such info, I advise that you do it in a very succinct and professional manner.

anonamiss
12-15-2020, 05:05 PM
not to sound entitled or negative but i thought that's why they take a whopping 65% of our earnings for, to market and promote us. why are only a few rooms busy but the rest of us sit for hours with little to no traffic and earnings that can't even buy a happymeal?? I'm sorry to rant but something just doesn't add up to me. yes we have the option to drive our own traffic for a bigger % but it seems like we HAVE to if we want any real chance of making anything most days.

i just keep telling myself that things are probably shitty because of this seemingly never-ending pandemic. 1) there are more models online in general, presumably because so many women lost their regular jobs and turned to online sex work, so there is oversaturation and more competition. 2) there are more guys online who are at home browsing cam sites out of boredom/loneliness, but they are also potentially out of work and therefore broke. 3) guys who are normally able to sneak away from their wives/families to do cam shows can't anymore because everyone is stuck at home together.

i know i've talked to a few regs who normally spend their christmas bonuses on me. they got laid off because of Covid, so no holiday bonuses for them, which means they can't afford to spend much on me. they still come and hang out and maybe buy into gold shows, but they can't afford their usual long exclusives anymore.

christmas/holiday season is usually very lucrative for me but i am just not going to have high expectations this year.

HollyD
12-15-2020, 05:33 PM
Has anyone got a we-vibe jive? Do you get connection issues or tipping and no vibration?

kamiliam
12-15-2020, 06:19 PM
I generally agree with what you're saying, however I will note that last year when AB-5 was a big stressful topic for California models, I reached out to Liz directly because there were otherwise so many rumors and speculation and misinformation floating around. She got back to me with a surprisingly informative/in-depth response regarding how/why Streamate as a company decided to take on California models as employees to be compliant with the new law.

So it is possible that she might provide some answers/clarity regarding the recent PornHub/credit card situation and how it could hypothetically pertain to Streamate. But I also wouldn't count on it, and if anyone does plan to send her message looking for such info, I advise that you do it in a very succinct and professional manner.


If the other shoe drops or something like AB5 comes about we should expect SM and by extension Liz to be as open as they can be. The problem is that they aren’t super open about all the details of their relationship with Mindgeek, and as of now nothing has happened. My main point is that SM shouldn’t be telling us anything about (what is so far) seeming to be a company far enough removed from themselves.

Also perhaps consider that their plan in CA was very cautious to the law but ultimately useless, maybe they don’t want to take preemptive action after all that.

I do think the same trimming that happened with models in CA will happen to the more “problematic” models.

remove tags and anything in your profile that indicates anything being targeted. If you escort remove that info from anything that ties to your SM account.

and for the love of god, UNLESS their ID has been submitted to support don’t have your sad FWB awkwardly do gold shows with you on the weekends. This is targeted at all the forum lurkers btw which there are many. Having unverified people in your shows could shut the site down way faster than some pussy in free chat.

anonamiss
12-15-2020, 07:08 PM
and for the love of god, UNLESS their ID has been submitted to support don’t have your sad FWB awkwardly do gold shows with you on the weekends. This is targeted at all the forum lurkers btw which there are many. Having unverified people in your shows could shut the site down way faster than some pussy in free chat.

is this a common thing? if so i had no idea. and yeah, that's a pretty dumb move overall even outside of this whole pornhub/cautionary situation. i imagine it's not just girls with FWB males but also random female friends hopping on streams.

always get the other person ID-verified and confirmed by support before bringing them on your stream... common sense to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

kamiliam
12-15-2020, 07:44 PM
is this a common thing? if so i had no idea. and yeah, that's a pretty dumb move overall even outside of this whole pornhub/cautionary situation. i imagine it's not just girls with FWB males but also random female friends hopping on streams.

always get the other person ID-verified and confirmed by support before bringing them on your stream... common sense to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean I have no concrete evidence, but there has been large increase (that came with the explosion of new models), often a one night deal from what I can tell. Maybe they are approving more, but I also have recently heard of support saying couple accounts are necessary, support is too inconsistent for all the increase imo. I also think I can tell a wannabe suitcase pimp.

I consider myself pretty on top of what is happening while I work. I don't really knock any honest hustle, couples shows included, and I would NEVER never bother or rat on anyone but it was irritating to see professionals perhaps taking on the mindset of our customers.

laurielegs
12-15-2020, 08:21 PM
Man I hope things get better this week for traffic. Working hours that are usually my best busiest hours and completely empty room. Can't sell a show if nobody is there to sell to.

guessing it's the bonus drawing more hosts online? I used to be able to view the number of hosts with Opera browser but now it doesn't show the total.

izshadow
12-15-2020, 08:26 PM
Man I hope things get better this week for traffic. Working hours that are usually my best busiest hours and completely empty room. Can't sell a show if nobody is there to sell to.

guessing it's the bonus drawing more hosts online? I used to be able to view the number of hosts with Opera browser but now it doesn't show the total.

Honestly I dont think so. I noticed even top model/earners that are never affected by bonuses or contests are completely empty and going hours without a show and are just as concerned. Its everyone.

DeliveryLadyx
12-15-2020, 08:55 PM
I am on Windows and on search bar I look up for internet explorer (the old internet explorer, not edge) and search for Streamate and it shows the number of models online. Another very slow day/night for me. :(

laurielegs
12-15-2020, 09:03 PM
I am on Windows and on search bar I look up for internet explorer (the old internet explorer, not edge) and search for Streamate and it shows the number of models online. Another very slow day/night for me. :(

Thanks! that worked. I can see the number of hosts on the old internet explorer.

Sorry to hear it's slow for you too.

ChloeGreenX
12-15-2020, 10:20 PM
It's been super slow for me for days now. I think something is terribly wrong with SM. Everyone is having a hard time :/ I am at 3 hours now and made just under $30. It's a joke...

Erika_Xstacy
12-15-2020, 11:17 PM
Man I hope things get better this week for traffic. Working hours that are usually my best busiest hours and completely empty room. Can't sell a show if nobody is there to sell to.

guessing it's the bonus drawing more hosts online? I used to be able to view the number of hosts with Opera browser but now it doesn't show the total.

when I checked it this evening sm said over 2k models... are you getting the same number?

KatM
12-16-2020, 02:11 AM
Thats crazy. I use different vpn and I have to physically change mine

I posted something in verified regarding this, pls come over there to discuss the matter ty xxx

Miss_ShaSha
12-16-2020, 08:42 AM
Has anyone got a we-vibe jive? Do you get connection issues or tipping and no vibration?

I've had mine for a year and a half. It still works and will link up with SM, but it no longer reacts to tips while inside nor react to tips in my panties. It however still registers that the tip has been received; it just doesn't respond with vibration. I'm about to get a new one. Not sure if it will be a Jive however.

You'dNeverGuess
12-16-2020, 09:00 AM
I know its been slow and mc/visa issue will impact things somewhat its also during a pandemic and its the holidays I'm sure a lot of people are having to choose between having money for the holidays and cam models and its also a contest on Streamate which is notorious for being slow.

Also I just went to the live cam section of PH and talked to a chat rep asking about what payment methods are accepted (on the live cam section) and was told MC, Visa, Discover.

While PH is affected they dont seem to be cutting us away from mc,visa,etc. I wouldnt completely put anything on the PH issue until after the contest and people get stimulus money again. If its still slow then I'd be somewhat more concerned at least on streamate. I dont work on any other site so I'm just basing this on Streamate.53727

You'dNeverGuess
12-16-2020, 09:06 AM
I know its been slow and mc/visa issue will impact things somewhat its also during a pandemic and its the holidays I'm sure a lot of people are having to choose between having money for the holidays and cam models and its also a contest on Streamate which is notorious for being slow.

Also I just went to the live cam section of PH and talked to a chat rep asking about what payment methods are accepted (on the live cam section) and was told MC, Visa, Discover.

While PH is affected they dont seem to be cutting us away from mc,visa,etc. I wouldnt completely put anything on the PH issue until after the contest and people get stimulus money again. If its still slow then I'd be somewhat more concerned at least on streamate. I dont work on any other site so I'm just basing this on Streamate. Also after checking with someone that works with streamate payouts and sees earnings and traffic I was told that Streamates traffic earnings have been consistant if not higher this month theres just more people online too this was not from Streamate this was from Boleyn Models.53727 If you believe its the MC/Visa affecting your traffic thats fine I wont argue that but for those looking and dont want to jump into mass hysteria, theres more going on than just the MC/Visa issue and I'd give it more time before jumping to conclusions.

laurielegs
12-16-2020, 10:25 AM
when I checked it this evening sm said over 2k models... are you getting the same number?

It was over 3k when I looked!

ChristieX
12-16-2020, 10:41 AM
I used to be able to view the number of hosts with Opera browser but now it doesn't show the total.

Do you mind me asking how you do this?

Jodyjensen
12-16-2020, 11:36 AM
I’ve had a new comment posted on my profile finally, first one since late October. It’s dated from the 08/11 so expect there’s more coming

HollyD
12-16-2020, 12:34 PM
I've had mine for a year and a half. It still works and will link up with SM, but it no longer reacts to tips while inside nor react to tips in my panties. It however still registers that the tip has been received; it just doesn't respond with vibration. I'm about to get a new one. Not sure if it will be a Jive however.
Ahhh crap I just got mine as there was a sale on. yeah my registers the tip and goes off but occasionally the app disconnects so it doesn't vibrate. Wishing I got a lush now.

~Carmen~
12-16-2020, 01:14 PM
It was over 3k when I looked!

Same!

Erika_Xstacy
12-16-2020, 03:08 PM
Same!
oooooooooohhhkay is this a new number?
I couldnt find the number, i assume every model has toys of some sort and that is where i got the 2k number @ 1am est

this is a huge jump from previous years. I wonder how many are bots

~Carmen~
12-16-2020, 03:16 PM
oooooooooohhhkay is this a new number?
I couldnt find the number, i assume every model has toys of some sort and that is where i got the 2k number @ 1am est

this is a huge jump from previous years. I wonder how many are bots

That was at around 3 am. Right now I'm seeing this on IE.

53730

Miss_ShaSha
12-16-2020, 03:24 PM
oooooooooohhhkay is this a new number?
I couldnt find the number, i assume every model has toys of some sort and that is where i got the 2k number @ 1am est

this is a huge jump from previous years. I wonder how many are bots

I've been checking via Opera browser for months now. It's usually in the 3k+ days except on Sun morning/day which was usually about 2.2k. Yeah. It's been 3k+ for a while now :(

laurielegs
12-16-2020, 04:13 PM
oooooooooohhhkay is this a new number?
I couldnt find the number, i assume every model has toys of some sort and that is where i got the 2k number @ 1am est

this is a huge jump from previous years. I wonder how many are bots

Seems to me to be way higher in the last month. Highest I can ever remember seeing. Since the number jumped this last month I've moved back 1 1/2 pages, used to be on the front page.

Now I can only see the number if I check through internet explorer.

dancer0307
12-16-2020, 04:30 PM
Is this webcam good enough quality for SM?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01BGBJ8Y0

ChristieX
12-16-2020, 04:38 PM
Do you mind me asking how you do this?
Yes I’ve had 6 arrive today.