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MissAdriana
02-20-2021, 08:53 AM
This is very rare, but if a cop feels like being a dick they can totally ticketed you and ruin your life.

Ya that's a good comparison too !


i totally agree. i am going to keep 2 clients i have that ive had for 1 year for raceplay since we have an understanding..

NP hun! I know you dont have hate in your heart and to you its just a word. I wish private was truly private between only 2 consenting adults, but all it takes is a client to make it public and now it's everyone's business and they all have an opinion. Even if you didnt get banned, other clients can find it not understanding the fetish or context, and think 'jesus i had no idea she was such a racist bitch i wont do a show with her now' so that's another thing to factor in as well.


just wondering for all the models who say their earnings tank and they get almost no traffic during contests -- how many "favorites" do you have?

A little over 9000

Genoveve
02-20-2021, 12:44 PM
Did anyone else get any weird recruitment emails from 'Live Jasmine' saying they could help you make 250,000k a month in their inbox?

MsJess
02-20-2021, 01:35 PM
im getting ppl from portugal, france, germany, i dont speak this languages!!! I'm in Spain, if they only could bring the old placement back, this is hurting my earings really really bad!!!

HollyD
02-20-2021, 03:05 PM
Hey, what do you mean by merging countries? Is this the reason for everyone's fall in placement? Is it some permanent change?

So instead of just showing your countries models first it's a mixture of whoever is top if that's the right word to use.

kamiliam
02-20-2021, 03:39 PM
This is the first contest in years that I intended to "compete" in that unexpectedly I just couldn't. Tech issues and shipping delays(it wasn't just the wire on the brio) resulted in me working like total 10 hours compared to my 30ish hours on other week-long contests.

What I can say is that after prize money my hourly is consistent with that limited amount of hours I worked this week. This tends to be my baseline for all contests; after prize money the hourly is what I like. Sometimes I get more, but baring a strong tide of momentum (which is the most important thing imo)it can be rough. The start of this week was horrible for me then I couldn't work later on. I have all the same issues with slow times and trolls, it just equals out in the end. I used to stress more till I did the math.

I upped my exclusive rate up a touch which I think will overall be a good choice for me during contests I don't do the gold show hustle enough. Which is my own weird little issue. It's a fun little motivation game for me to do more.

Erika_Xstacy
02-20-2021, 03:52 PM
im getting ppl from portugal, france, germany, i dont speak this languages!!! I'm in Spain, if they only could bring the old placement back, this is hurting my earings really really bad!!!
I c&p real quick into google translate if I don't recognize and sometimes respond using google translate
they are usually the ones with one word request and sit silent forever in paid chat
I hated it like you do until I learned I was losing money by saying "i don't speak that" lol it helped me to use google translate and have a few good customers.


So instead of just showing your countries models first it's a mixture of whoever is top if that's the right word to use.

Im viewing in the USA and have been able to see all countries on all pages for the past cpl of years. I wonder if that feature wasnt global?

the one country I never saw was China and recently Im seeing a lot if it. I thought china had restrictions but as my dad use to always say "that's what you get for thinking"

Erika_Xstacy
02-20-2021, 03:54 PM
Did anyone else get any weird recruitment emails from 'Live Jasmine' saying they could help you make 250,000k a month in their inbox?
once a year I do get those.
report it to support and they will ban the acct 8)

Genoveve
02-20-2021, 04:17 PM
^^^I did report them as a possible hacker.

LeilaB
02-21-2021, 02:15 AM
Today I had a guy in excl, who said he used to wear diaper since a woman had humilated him for his small size, and he wanted SPH. He was calling me "mommy", but I didnt react to it, I was just doing a general SPH for him. He said things like: "Rubbing my baby cock", "Im sure u would love daddy's cock more", and wanted me to act like I was breastfeeding him. Im a bit afraid of getting banned or something, because it is so controversial. I read the conversation here about this diaper thing, but I think this case is a bit different than the previously discussed one.

Actually I dont think it was underage game, because he displays himself as an adult man, who was humilated, and since then he's been wearing a diaper, and doesnt feel like a real man. Of course I could have banned him from excl for saying things that I mentioned before, but I think Im not responsible for things he was writing. Ahh I dont know... :( What do you think about it?

moneybags
02-21-2021, 02:27 AM
Today I had a guy in excl, who said he used to wear diaper since a woman had humilated him for his small size, and he wanted SPH. He was calling me "mommy", but I didnt react to it, I was just doing a general SPH for him. He said things like: "Rubbing my baby cock", "Im sure u would love daddy's cock more", and wanted me to act like I was breastfeeding him. Im a bit afraid of getting banned or something, because it is so controversial. I read the conversation here about this diaper thing, but I think this case is a bit different than the previously discussed one.

Actually I dont think it was underage game, because he displays himself as an adult man, who was humilated, and since then he's been wearing a diaper, and doesnt feel like a real man. Of course I could have banned him from excl for saying things that I mentioned before, but I think Im not responsible for things he was writing. Ahh I dont know... :( What do you think about it?
Do they really care if you’re making money. Has anyone actually been banned here?

I keep getting short shows. I’m wondering if something is wrong. Maybe they cum really fast? Seriously I’ve had several privates a few minutes long. Am I do something wrong?

LeilaB
02-21-2021, 02:44 AM
Do they really care if you’re making money. Has anyone actually been banned here?

I keep getting short shows. I’m wondering if something is wrong. Maybe they cum really fast? Seriously I’ve had several privates a few minutes long. Am I do something wrong?

I dont think you do anything wrong, if you've been generally successful with the way you are working. The problem is not with you, it's a tough time we are all going through imo :S

It can be just lack of luck for a period of time, because I think we need some luck to catch a whale or a normal spender, and not only 3-5 min guys. Maybe tomorrow you get 3* 40 mins excl, you can never know.

Maybe it's because of this pandemic situation there are more guys out there who have very limited amount of money, and the chance of meeting a guy who has money has decreased in the past ~1 year.

I wish you better shifts with longer pvts&exclusives!! :goodvibes

moneybags
02-21-2021, 02:48 AM
^^^Maybe they are buying short shows cause of the pandemic. I’m just like WTF...literally it’s been minute men allll night...LOL

bigbum
02-21-2021, 03:41 AM
Do they really care if you’re making money. Has anyone actually been banned here?

I keep getting short shows. I’m wondering if something is wrong. Maybe they cum really fast? Seriously I’ve had several privates a few minutes long. Am I do something wrong?

yes and yes. i know other models who have gotten banned or temp bans for small things and for big violations.

bigbum
02-21-2021, 04:04 AM
Today I had a guy in excl, who said he used to wear diaper since a woman had humilated him for his small size, and he wanted SPH. He was calling me "mommy", but I didnt react to it, I was just doing a general SPH for him. He said things like: "Rubbing my baby cock", "Im sure u would love daddy's cock more", and wanted me to act like I was breastfeeding him. Im a bit afraid of getting banned or something, because it is so controversial. I read the conversation here about this diaper thing, but I think this case is a bit different than the previously discussed one.

Actually I dont think it was underage game, because he displays himself as an adult man, who was humilated, and since then he's been wearing a diaper, and doesnt feel like a real man. Of course I could have banned him from excl for saying things that I mentioned before, but I think Im not responsible for things he was writing. Ahh I dont know... :( What do you think about it?
its gray areas like Leila explains that really make our job difficult. but yeah you will get a slap on the wrist eventually. really you will.

ive been banning more and more users, and i click report atleast 1 time per day.
i currently have more than 1400 blocked users in under 1 year.

ive been advised that yes YOU are to a certain extent responsible for what goes on in your shows.
if someone says "brother" or something to me i correct them STEPBROTHER, if they dont listen and write it again, its an instant ban.
if a user during an ass fetish show the user says "i want to lick the shit out of your ass" i usually just ignore it as they mean it in a sub way.

some ass hat was doing a show with me, everything was fine .. then suddenly he writes "1k for in person meet up bb"
instantly banned him. and reported.

i am not taking any chances these days. i just HOPE SM actually realizes how serious i am taking things and how many bans and reports i am sending.
id be pissed if i got banned after playing cop and rejecting shows and reporting, whilst others
get away with urinating all over their bed (a top 10 girl i saw doing this in the contest) or another who offers shitting in a cup for 150 gold .
i see entire studios in colombia with hardcore rule breaking age play and pussys wide open on public chat.
but eventually it catches up with them. no need to get upset about other rule breakers. it will catch up to them.

all we can do is be responsible, police our chats as best as possible, and hope it works out.
SM rules are gray at best , its 1 part luck, 1 part being responsible ,and using your best judgement.

you can try TYPING to him , give him a warning such as "stepdaddy pls" or "no age play please" or no saying "baby"
and if he doesnt listen and keeps going.. then end the show.
usually i give a 1 strike policy during the show. if they listen and respect, then we proceed, if not its bye bye.

i was doing a bbc block showthe other day and 20 minutes into the block all was going well talking about black cock ect in a positive way. and suddenly out of no where the guy was like "say white power bb" over and over. like WTF is that??????
i told him NO WAY. but i was 20 minutes into the block, if i banned him i wouldnt get paid.
so i just told him i felt that was very disrespectful and that i was offended and i wouldnt be doing it. no way. have to have some limits here with these freaks!
he got the hint and we moved on. i think im going to ban him even though he has been a great NORMAL client for a year , even just for asking such a think is cazy to me.

Angela888
02-21-2021, 04:58 AM
Hi ladies, has anyone been online yet today, what’s it like?

LeilaB
02-21-2021, 05:18 AM
its gray areas like Leila explains that really make our job difficult. but yeah you will get a slap on the wrist eventually. really you will.

ive been banning more and more users, and i click report atleast 1 time per day.
i currently have more than 1400 blocked users in under 1 year.

ive been advised that yes YOU are to a certain extent responsible for what goes on in your shows.
if someone says "brother" or something to me i correct them STEPBROTHER, if they dont listen and write it again, its an instant ban.
if a user during an ass fetish show the user says "i want to lick the shit out of your ass" i usually just ignore it as they mean it in a sub way.

some ass hat was doing a show with me, everything was fine .. then suddenly he writes "1k for in person meet up bb"
instantly banned him. and reported.

i am not taking any chances these days. i just HOPE SM actually realizes how serious i am taking things and how many bans and reports i am sending.
id be pissed if i got banned after playing cop and rejecting shows and reporting, whilst others
get away with urinating all over their bed (a top 10 girl i saw doing this in the contest) or another who offers shitting in a cup for 150 gold .
i see entire studios in colombia with hardcore rule breaking age play and pussys wide open on public chat.
but eventually it catches up with them. no need to get upset about other rule breakers. it will catch up to them.

all we can do is be responsible, police our chats as best as possible, and hope it works out.
SM rules are gray at best , its 1 part luck, 1 part being responsible ,and using your best judgement.

you can try TYPING to him , give him a warning such as "stepdaddy pls" or "no age play please" or no saying "baby"
and if he doesnt listen and keeps going.. then end the show.
usually i give a 1 strike policy during the show. if they listen and respect, then we proceed, if not its bye bye.

i was doing a bbc block showthe other day and 20 minutes into the block all was going well talking about black cock ect in a positive way. and suddenly out of no where the guy was like "say white power bb" over and over. like WTF is that??????
i told him NO WAY. but i was 20 minutes into the block, if i banned him i wouldnt get paid.
so i just told him i felt that was very disrespectful and that i was offended and i wouldnt be doing it. no way. have to have some limits here with these freaks!
he got the hint and we moved on. i think im going to ban him even though he has been a great NORMAL client for a year , even just for asking such a think is cazy to me.

Thank you very much for your detailed answer! I hope I wont get banned for tis issue. :( You are right, these $$$ doesnt worth the risk of getting banned, its better to let these guys go... I was confused, and didnt really know how to react properly, this was the first time I experienced a show like this. I should have warned him, and should have suggested "stepmommy" term...I handled this situation wrong :/ Im absolutely not comfortable with weird things like this in a show, and if I happen to run into a guy like him again, I wont even start the excl, I dont care about the money...my account is more important.

I have already reported some guys who wanted things that are clearly against the site rules (dad-daughter impregnation WTF, paying for pussy in free chat etc.) but its hard to handle cases that arent this clear.

Strawberryblonde
02-21-2021, 06:04 AM
After some guys saying they did not know giving contact details is not allowed, I had another look at the front page - it's right there in the chat box!

minibagel
02-21-2021, 02:38 PM
Do they really care if you’re making money. Has anyone actually been banned here?


I got a 24hr ban for having my pets on cam. I had emailed support to ask about sudden lack of traffic (I was brand new and it was my first contest week so I was confused) and they decided to review my streams… big mistake lol. I quickly learned how super strict SM is cuz I was advertising my twitter as well in the beginning, oops

moneybags
02-21-2021, 02:53 PM
I got a 24hr ban for having my pets on cam. I had emailed support to ask about sudden lack of traffic (I was brand new and it was my first contest week so I was confused) and they decided to review my streams… big mistake lol. I quickly learned how super strict SM is cuz I was advertising my twitter as well in the beginning, oops

Good to know. I’ve been wanting to get a cat, but I doubt I will. I’d have to have a separate room to cam then. Seems kinda cruel to get an animal knowing I can’t have her or him I’m the room while I working. I know why they are strict about it though.

Anyways, good to know to mind by P’s and Q’s

minibagel
02-21-2021, 03:17 PM
^Sometimes it can't be helped, my cats like to chase each other so if they suddenly dart into the frame I'll try to reset my stream immediately or cover the cam or just pretend nothing happened if it was fast enough.

I've definitely seen other models' pets pop into the frame and once I saw a little dog ear move behind a strategically placed pillow-- can't say I don't hide my pets either so they can sleep peacefully and still be with me! As long as they are out of the frame that's all that matters.

It is a pretty dumb rule imo as on mfc and cb pets are totally fine and ppl would regularly tip my cats haha

freya_jade_
02-22-2021, 04:36 AM
Ummm. I am like panicking because i am somehow page fucking 6 right now?! I am normally a front page model. I have 5 stars, all the right tech, my hourly earnings are good. what the FUCK is going on, i'm like trying not to cry on cam right now feeling like something is wrong and i am just fucked forever now on this site and my placement will never be back up

HollyD
02-22-2021, 04:50 AM
Ummm. I am like panicking because i am somehow page fucking 6 right now?! I am normally a front page model. I have 5 stars, all the right tech, my hourly earnings are good. what the FUCK is going on, i'm like trying not to cry on cam right now feeling like something is wrong and i am just fucked forever now on this site and my placement will never be back up

My placement went alot lower than normal last week but its gone back so it's not forever. Sometimes I think it matters on what other girls are on so hopefully it's just that or just a fluke so could contact support to see if it's their end

AuroraJade
02-22-2021, 04:52 AM
SM has an placement algorithm. The more you look at the website, it changes placement based on your preferences. Try removing your cache and cookies and then looking again.

freya_jade_
02-22-2021, 05:04 AM
SM has an placement algorithm. The more you look at the website, it changes placement based on your preferences. Try removing your cache and cookies and then looking again.

I tried that and it's even worse now :'(

freya_jade_
02-22-2021, 05:05 AM
My placement went alot lower than normal last week but its gone back so it's not forever. Sometimes I think it matters on what other girls are on so hopefully it's just that or just a fluke so could contact support to see if it's their end


Thank you for the reassurance. I want to know what the heck is going on. I also see a LOT of models ahead of me and on the front page that i have never seen before in my life, so they are definitely changing stuff up. I am so concerned.

AmaraWaters
02-22-2021, 05:15 AM
Tech question

I see lots of talk about RTT on here, but when I stream I literally don’t have an RTT metric? It’s just two lines (- -). Is RTT a measurement only shown to US steams? (I’m in Aus)

Strawberryblonde
02-22-2021, 08:26 AM
Tech question

I see lots of talk about RTT on here, but when I stream I literally don’t have an RTT metric? It’s just two lines (- -). Is RTT a measurement only shown to US steams? (I’m in Aus)


I see it in the UK.

innocentindian
02-22-2021, 09:05 AM
Is anyone having trouble getting a reply from support? I emailed them Feb. 17 about an urgent account issue and they still haven't gotten back to me.

Candyland69
02-22-2021, 09:08 AM
hello
Are you using firefox modzila? that migh be the problem. try use chrome when u get online and u will see RTT
cheers!

whirlerz
02-22-2021, 09:10 AM
Is anyone having trouble getting a reply from support? I emailed them Feb. 17 about an urgent account issue and they still haven't gotten back to me.

No, I first emailed just support, about my check (I already got it), then I emailed Liz, she got back to me pretty quickly.

Did you try Liz? Even so, I'd try again, if it's urgent.

innocentindian
02-22-2021, 09:15 AM
No, I first emailed just support, about my check (I already got it), then I emailed Liz, she got back to me pretty quickly.

Did you try Liz? Even so, I'd try again, if it's urgent.

I asked her for clarification about something before emailing support lol. I hate bothering her but I'll email her again if support doesn't respond by Tuesday afternoon.

Miss_ShaSha
02-22-2021, 09:19 AM
Is anyone having trouble pairing Lush 2 with SMConnect? I've cleared cache and cookies on laptop, restarted laptop, uninstalled Lovense app, reinstalled Lovese app, and tried to scan code. Nothing is working.

Help?

UPDATE:

You have to have WiFi on on your phone so app and laptop are on same WiFi. Duh.

DeliveryLadyx
02-22-2021, 09:41 AM
Is anyone having trouble pairing Lush 2 with SMConnect? I've cleared cache and cookies on laptop, restarted laptop, uninstalled Lovense app, reinstalled Lovese app, and tried to scan code. Nothing is working.

Help?
Is on their end, it's SM. I have esca ohmibod and lush and lush doesn't work since last week and very often it will show as connected but won't appear connected to members. I found with ohmibod esca always connect and always shows to the members. So I use both of them in the same time just to be sure live toy icon to members.

Miss_ShaSha
02-22-2021, 10:11 AM
Is on their end, it's SM. I have esca ohmibod and lush and lush doesn't work since last week and very often it will show as connected but won't appear connected to members. I found with ohmibod esca always connect and always shows to the members. So I use both of them in the same time just to be sure live toy icon to members.

Figured it out, just update my post haha. Thanks.

Dahlia Fallon
02-22-2021, 10:26 AM
Is on their end, it's SM. I have esca ohmibod and lush and lush doesn't work since last week and very often it will show as connected but won't appear connected to members. I found with ohmibod esca always connect and always shows to the members. So I use both of them in the same time just to be sure live toy icon to members.

And my Domi is still stuck on max power. :detective:faint:

whirlerz
02-22-2021, 11:43 AM
I got a 24hr ban for having my pets on cam. I had emailed support to ask about sudden lack of traffic (I was brand new and it was my first contest week so I was confused) and they decided to review my streams… big mistake lol. I quickly learned how super strict SM is cuz I was advertising my twitter as well in the beginning, oops

That's messed up ^

Aw, once my bunny hopped into view, the ass asked if I do ******
PIG.

I mean, they (pets) don't know!

minibagel
02-22-2021, 01:02 PM
^Haha I bet your bunny is so cute. I really wish they would lighten up and let us have our pets on cam, it makes our streams so much more real and personable and a great conversation starter. On token sites guys would literally tip to give my kitty cats treats, pets, or just have them hang out on screen and steal the spotlight from me for being cute!!

MFC’s rule: "No bestiality, or animals/pets on camera in a sexual or provocative context." Think it's the same for CB and I was on there for a bit before and everyone loved my cats more than me probably. I get that every site has different restrictions but I really think as long as pets are out of view for sexier times I see no issue. Tragic. SM bums me out with all their restrictions

fetishqueen
02-22-2021, 01:04 PM
That's it then, I'm joining a token site so my cats can cam for me and give me some time off!

Miss_ShaSha
02-22-2021, 01:08 PM
I'm on MFC an hour now and zero tokens. It's dead there too. I'll be back to SM at 3pm. This sucks!!!

AmaraWaters
02-22-2021, 02:38 PM
hello
Are you using firefox modzila? that migh be the problem. try use chrome when u get online and u will see RTT
cheers!

I use chrome

anonamiss
02-22-2021, 04:08 PM
^Haha I bet your bunny is so cute. I really wish they would lighten up and let us have our pets on cam, it makes our streams so much more real and personable and a great conversation starter. On token sites guys would literally tip to give my kitty cats treats, pets, or just have them hang out on screen and steal the spotlight from me for being cute!!

MFC’s rule: "No bestiality, or animals/pets on camera in a sexual or provocative context." Think it's the same for CB and I was on there for a bit before and everyone loved my cats more than me probably. I get that every site has different restrictions but I really think as long as pets are out of view for sexier times I see no issue. Tragic. SM bums me out with all their restrictions

gonna play devil's advocate here a little just for the sake of a different perspective.

you have to remind yourself that nearly every rule on a camsite exists either for legal reasons or because of credit card processors. i have always felt that SM generally defines their rules in a very straightforward/broad manner (which can often be interpreted as the most strict) particularly when it comes to potentially controversial things. (this is also relevant to a separate discussion about raceplay further up in this thread -- point is, there are reasons they aren't super specific with their rules.) and it's obvious to me why they do this. it's easier for SM to just have a wide sweeping rule of "no pets" as opposed to "pets okay, just don't be provocative or explicit with them", because conditionally allowing pets would hypothetically mean more things for them to have to monitor on a model's stream.

i have an SM example from like 5 years ago. i also used to have a rabbit. she jumped into my frame once when i used to cam on my floor, and literally, the one time it happened, someone in free chat asked me if i would put her over my naughty bits and pose with her, then quite literally asked me to fuck a carrot which was obviously related to the rabbit thing. then a bunch of dudes in free chat started calling him a sicko and it turned into a whole thing where the word "beastiality" kept coming up in the chat text and i was paranoid i was going to get a suspension just for accidentally starting that conversation and having it get taken out of context.

now, i don't think straight up beastiality is a popular cam request. i think a more common issue/reason for the rule is the potential of acting sexual with animals in the frame (not directly *with* them... ew.) and there's no way to know if some creep on the other end is having a sexual fantasy around the fact that you're casually hanging out with your pet, so it's safer to just not allow them at all. on MFC i frequently see girls topless or nude with their pets around; i've also seen girls acting seductive with pet snakes or something similar. with the way their rules are worded ("no pets in a provocative context"), that shouldn't be allowed, but it goes unenforced.

100% clothed, wholesome interactions with pets is one thing (and in theory should be allowed, i agree), but that is a difficult thing to monitor and objectively enforce on camsites that are so sexually-driven. if you are topless and your cat jumps on screen and you pet/interact with her, *you* might not think there's anything sexual about that, but some creepy guys as well as the credit card overlords might have other opinions.

zeusydoo
02-22-2021, 04:15 PM
I am in Aus and mine sits between 63 and 73 always in the green, so I really dont know why yours is --

minibagel
02-22-2021, 09:11 PM
gonna play devil's advocate here a little just for the sake of a different perspective.

you have to remind yourself that nearly every rule on a camsite exists either for legal reasons or because of credit card processors. i have always felt that SM generally defines their rules in a very straightforward/broad manner (which can often be interpreted as the most strict) particularly when it comes to potentially controversial things. (this is also relevant to a separate discussion about raceplay further up in this thread -- point is, there are reasons they aren't super specific with their rules.) and it's obvious to me why they do this. it's easier for SM to just have a wide sweeping rule of "no pets" as opposed to "pets okay, just don't be provocative or explicit with them", because conditionally allowing pets would hypothetically mean more things for them to have to monitor on a model's stream.

i have an SM example from like 5 years ago. i also used to have a rabbit. she jumped into my frame once when i used to cam on my floor, and literally, the one time it happened, someone in free chat asked me if i would put her over my naughty bits and pose with her, then quite literally asked me to fuck a carrot which was obviously related to the rabbit thing. then a bunch of dudes in free chat started calling him a sicko and it turned into a whole thing where the word "beastiality" kept coming up in the chat text and i was paranoid i was going to get a suspension just for accidentally starting that conversation and having it get taken out of context.

now, i don't think straight up beastiality is a popular cam request. i think a more common issue/reason for the rule is the potential of acting sexual with animals in the frame (not directly *with* them... ew.) and there's no way to know if some creep on the other end is having a sexual fantasy around the fact that you're casually hanging out with your pet, so it's safer to just not allow them at all. on MFC i frequently see girls topless or nude with their pets around; i've also seen girls acting seductive with pet snakes or something similar. with the way their rules are worded ("no pets in a provocative context"), that shouldn't be allowed, but it goes unenforced.

100% clothed, wholesome interactions with pets is one thing (and in theory should be allowed, i agree), but that is a difficult thing to monitor and objectively enforce on camsites that are so sexually-driven. if you are topless and your cat jumps on screen and you pet/interact with her, *you* might not think there's anything sexual about that, but some creepy guys as well as the credit card overlords might have other opinions.


That’s super gross about the girls with pet snakes…wtf? :( When tech support banned me, I then reached out to Liz to ask if it was okay to have my cats out at least in free chat where I am always 100% clothed and she said no, never at all any time cuz it causes too many issues. I also mentioned that I'm only seminude at most and never do explicit shows. I know I was being naive but I only hoped maybe they might go on a case by case basis.

But yes I totally get why SM forbids animals on cam, they don’t want the headache of dealing with credit card processors. Still sad about it tho, cuz like you said it would seem like if I’m just hanging out fully clothed then what’s the big deal?

My question is what trouble is SM really in for if a girl is hanging out on cam (nude or not, explicit show or not) with their pet sleeping on cam in the background? For what it’s worth I do think pets should be out of frame for sexy stuff, but MFC for example has managed to stick around for decades without ever changing their rule on pets. How have they managed to stay out of trouble all this time? Do they not also experience "too many issues" like Liz said? Also, who’s to say the same creep who fantasizes about a pet in view during a girl’s explicit show wouldn’t *still* be fantasizing if the girl was instead fully dressed? I don’t think that can be helped and that’s why the actual act of animal abuse is ultimately what must matter most to cc processors.

It’s puzzling that chaturbate especially doesn’t get slammed by credit card processors with all the group sex going on 24/7 and hardcore masturbation with huge toys, all the while with pets allowed?? This really makes me think it must only matter if ppl are straight up abusing animals for the site to get in any serious trouble. I am only assuming things here.

At the end of the day, Streamate wants to stay out of it and that’s their decision, me being sad and wishing they could be more lax about it won’t change their mind. The sad reality is that it’s hard to monitor the welfare of animals anywhere on the internet. Not just sex-driven sites. Just look at Twitch where both pets and children are allowed, yet some girls are most definitely acting provocatively while fully clothed or skimpily dressed or even nude but with body paint?? And their pets can still chill on cam. There are even pet “streamers” and this alone must open up the floodgates to ANY type of potential animal abuse, not just sexual. Makes animal abuse impossible to monitor yet Twitch allows pets. Idk

anonamiss
02-23-2021, 05:01 AM
That’s super gross about the girls with pet snakes…wtf? :( When tech support banned me, I then reached out to Liz to ask if it was okay to have my cats out at least in free chat where I am always 100% clothed and she said no, never at all any time cuz it causes too many issues. I also mentioned that I'm only seminude at most and never do explicit shows. I know I was being naive but I only hoped maybe they might go on a case by case basis.

But yes I totally get why SM forbids animals on cam, they don’t want the headache of dealing with credit card processors. Still sad about it tho, cuz like you said it would seem like if I’m just hanging out fully clothed then what’s the big deal?

My question is what trouble is SM really in for if a girl is hanging out on cam (nude or not, explicit show or not) with their pet sleeping on cam in the background? For what it’s worth I do think pets should be out of frame for sexy stuff, but MFC for example has managed to stick around for decades without ever changing their rule on pets. How have they managed to stay out of trouble all this time? Do they not also experience "too many issues" like Liz said? Also, who’s to say the same creep who fantasizes about a pet in view during a girl’s explicit show wouldn’t *still* be fantasizing if the girl was instead fully dressed? I don’t think that can be helped and that’s why the actual act of animal abuse is ultimately what must matter most to cc processors.

It’s puzzling that chaturbate especially doesn’t get slammed by credit card processors with all the group sex going on 24/7 and hardcore masturbation with huge toys, all the while with pets allowed?? This really makes me think it must only matter if ppl are straight up abusing animals for the site to get in any serious trouble. I am only assuming things here.

At the end of the day, Streamate wants to stay out of it and that’s their decision, me being sad and wishing they could be more lax about it won’t change their mind. The sad reality is that it’s hard to monitor the welfare of animals anywhere on the internet. Not just sex-driven sites. Just look at Twitch where both pets and children are allowed, yet some girls are most definitely acting provocatively while fully clothed or skimpily dressed or even nude but with body paint?? And their pets can still chill on cam. There are even pet “streamers” and this alone must open up the floodgates to ANY type of potential animal abuse, not just sexual. Makes animal abuse impossible to monitor yet Twitch allows pets. Idk

i didn't mean like, fucking their snakes or anything like that - i meant doing a sort of burlesque tease with a snake around their neck, or crawling around sexually on the floor. think 2000s-era britney spears, just a bit more nude/explicit, lol. at least from what i've stumbled on. i hope it doesn't go any further than that. o.O but still, if the rule is "don't be provocative" with pets, then i'd think that type of act would still apply.

honestly this general discussion makes me want to refer back to the most recent pornhub/visa/mastercard debacle. i personally wondered/worried if all of that would inevitably lead to an industry-wide situation where credit card processors would do a huge sweep of reviewing adult sites and then potentially give some of them (like token sites) at least a warning/slap on the wrist, or more. i just thought that it might lead to sites cracking down on certain rules they were more lax on before. but from what i can tell, that didn't happen / hasn't happened yet. maybe someone else can chime in with more specific insight in that regard.

i can't tell you why mfc or CB has gotten away with so much for so long. i'm curious too. i personally just prefer to be on SM in the context of all these rules - because they (SM) seem to care more about staying within the arbitrary credit card-related guidelines than other sites. i feel like if any sites are eventually going to go down for breaking certain policies, it's going to be a lot of other sites way before SM. somehow SM feels safer/more legit to me.

but i 100% hear you and generally agree with what you said.

ChristieX
02-23-2021, 08:53 AM
Tech question

I see lots of talk about RTT on here, but when I stream I literally don’t have an RTT metric? It’s just two lines (- -). Is RTT a measurement only shown to US steams? (I’m in Aus)

RTT Round Trip Time. I'm in the UK and I see it.

It's the amount of time it takes a packet to leave your PC, get to its destination (the users monitor), and back to you. When you do a speed test it's the ping.

lower the number the better. Mine usually sits in the low 20's.

In layman's term I guess you could call it the lag.

MissAdriana
02-23-2021, 09:17 AM
Tech question

I see lots of talk about RTT on here, but when I stream I literally don’t have an RTT metric? It’s just two lines (- -). Is RTT a measurement only shown to US steams? (I’m in Aus)

When you do a speed test what does it say? Are you using a VPN while streaming ?

I want to say:
0-100 = green
100-200 = yellow
200+ = red

Does anybody know for sure?

kamiliam
02-23-2021, 10:17 AM
honestly this general discussion makes me want to refer back to the most recent pornhub/visa/mastercard debacle. i personally wondered/worried if all of that would inevitably lead to an industry-wide situation where credit card processors would do a huge sweep of reviewing adult sites and then potentially give some of them (like token sites) at least a warning/slap on the wrist, or more. i just thought that it might lead to sites cracking down on certain rules they were more lax on before. but from what i can tell, that didn't happen / hasn't happened yet. maybe someone else can chime in with more specific insight in that regard.

i can't tell you why mfc or CB has gotten away with so much for so long. i'm curious too. i personally just prefer to be on SM in the context of all these rules - because they (SM) seem to care more about staying within the arbitrary credit card-related guidelines than other sites. i feel like if any sites are eventually going to go down for breaking certain policies, it's going to be a lot of other sites way before SM. somehow SM feels safer/more legit to me.

but i 100% hear you and generally agree with what you said.

if I were to guess it has to do with purchasing tokens on MFC compared to the on the go payment of SM. Tokens add some plausible deniability.

fetishqueen
02-23-2021, 10:26 AM
if I were to guess it has to do with purchasing tokens on MFC compared to the on the go payment of SM. Tokens add some plausible deniability.

Adultwork have a credits system and they are super strict with rules, no nudity in free at all. Guess each site has their own rules and regs...

Luci Fer
02-23-2021, 10:26 AM
Hello everyone.
SM changed display country according to ID now, so what does it mean? Does it mean a model can stream in, lets say, Bali, but if her ID says she s American, the display country will be US?
They say it's to maintain trust for users and for less confusion, and I can understand it. But then they say 'if you move to different country, send us your ID with updated location and we will change your display country'. What does it mean? It means a model gotta send them her visa? lol For example, American,moving to Siberia (lol!) to cam. Why should she update her ID info, so they give her Russia as display country and it only adds a lot of confusion. That's where I totally lose their point. Please explain,if I get it wrong somehow.

kamiliam
02-23-2021, 10:31 AM
Adultwork have a credits system and they are super strict with rules, no nudity in free at all. Guess each site has their own rules and regs...

Yeah but they also kicked off American models, different country different rules for financial systems.

I know they cracked down on some fetishes but they used to be more lenient on a number of different things, not to mention escorting which would get you kicked off any American site