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Luci Fer
02-23-2021, 10:34 AM
yes yes and yes!
the TOS are very very vague!
even talking about potty stuff like "i want to shit in your mouth" purely verbal . in no way actually doing those things.
i thought it was funny just to talk to subs about these things.
i just liked to talk about it.
that will get you blocked as well
so in addition do not even talk about it.
verbal is considered a ban as well.
if you are unsure about the rules. contact sm directly dont be afraid to confirm these "gray areas"
this is a really great company but we just need to be sure about what is and isnt allowed .
it can get confusing navigating all of these requests us models receive.
especially when user names are "daddy" or a request seems in a gray area such as squirting.
its better to be on the safe side.
trust me.
i have been a model there for more than 1 year doing the same shows but things are always changing.
so ASK First.
i was too shy to ask and i lost my Christmas bonus week because of it.
learn from my mistake.
damn, I did not know about squirting! It is nice to refer to the site to say no to such request, but on another hand...with the restrictions getting more and more weird (I also can relate on verbal part), it will turn into a church lol
AuroraJade
02-23-2021, 10:45 AM
Hello everyone.
SM changed display country according to ID now, so what does it mean? Does it mean a model can stream in, lets say, Bali, but if her ID says she s American, the display country will be US?
They say it's to maintain trust for users and for less confusion, and I can understand it. But then they say 'if you move to different country, send us your ID with updated location and we will change your display country'. What does it mean? It means a model gotta send them her visa? lol For example, American,moving to Siberia (lol!) to cam. Why should she update her ID info, so they give her Russia as display country and it only adds a lot of confusion. That's where I totally lose their point. Please explain,if I get it wrong somehow.
Ive seen US models who live abroad and still have US as display country. I asked to get US as display country and they couldn't because only models who are a US citizen can get that! Something to do with taxes I think?
Please dont cam from Bali, lol. You can't without bypassing their internet porn laws, its illegal. I was on vacation there and couldn't even access Reddit. Dont know if you wanted to do that, or if its just an example but be warned!
AuroraJade
02-23-2021, 10:52 AM
Allright, so what's not allowed on SM? Maybe we can make a comprehensive list because the TOS and support isn't so clear, lol. Maybe we can make some kind of guide ourselves :)
- Children and unauthorized people on cam (well duh) NOT ALLOWED
- Piss/poop/blood/menstruation NOT ALLOWED
- Social Media links/Other Platforms/Skype/Teamviewer NOT ALLOWED
- Animals, not even on cam. Do you get suspended for having your animal in the frame for a second, accidentally? Would like to know
- Weapons/knives. Are props allowed? Air soft/paint ball guns allowed?
- Is squirting a grey area?
- Blackmail fetish/RP. I did it in the past, is it allowed on SM? Its a felony in the US, thats what I know
- I heard stories about Humiliation and Findom being a grey area. Is that correct?
- Getting called Mommy or calling a customer Daddy, would really like to know. Allowed or not? Other incest RP like aunt, sister, not allowed?
- Step mom and Step sister, allowed or not?
- Raceplay, can understand its a grey area. Not saying I do that (I dont). Is it allowed?
Anybody have answers or things to add to this list? :)
itslacey
02-23-2021, 10:55 AM
hey girls,
Is anyone else having issues withe their webcam blacking out randomly whilst streaming? It keeps happening to me during shows and its really hurting my earnings!
MissAdriana
02-23-2021, 12:02 PM
Ive seen US models who live abroad and still have US as display country. I asked to get US as display country and they couldn't because only models who are a US citizen can get that!
I really hope they rethink this strategy. I know where they are trying to go with it. If they get models who are from the customer's country on top the customer may spend on those models.
I have heard a LOT of complaints from customers over the years of 'foreign models' so I think they are doing the change to appease the customers. Now in my own personal surveys of chatting with these users firsthand - most are not racist or xenophobic, they just want an english speaking model because that's what they speak and they want to make sure they get the show that will get them off.
My issue with this if you live in a generally poorer country or less populated country than where you were appearing as your traffic will likely suffer OR your earnings can suffer because you are showing at the top row front page IN A POOR COUNTRY! WHO CARES !? THEY HAVE NO MONEY ! Now your target audience is wherever the fuck you live potentially exposing you and your safety (if you live in a small country and dont use geoblock)
I'm sure most models want to be seen as from somewhere in the UK, or USA since that's where the most paying customers seem to be coming from. If they want to sort by spoken languages so customers can optimally find models who speak their language: that's fine with me.
Overall I want all cam sites to focus on organizing models better by WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE PERFORM, and WHAT WE HAVE TO SELL RIGHT NOW, not painting us with whatever brush based on where we are living and just relying on the old and tired sales technique of 'local girls ready to fuck' which only caters to the broke guys who weren't going to do shows anyway because they think the site is tinder.
/endrant LOL
Genoveve
02-23-2021, 12:32 PM
hey girls,
Is anyone else having issues withe their webcam blacking out randomly whilst streaming? It keeps happening to me during shows and its really hurting my earnings!
Is your webcam old? Does it tend to happen when you’re moving the cam?
minibagel
02-23-2021, 12:47 PM
i didn't mean like, fucking their snakes or anything like that - i meant doing a sort of burlesque tease with a snake around their neck, or crawling around sexually on the floor. think 2000s-era britney spears, just a bit more nude/explicit, lol. at least from what i've stumbled on. i hope it doesn't go any further than that. o.O but still, if the rule is "don't be provocative" with pets, then i'd think that type of act would still apply.
honestly this general discussion makes me want to refer back to the most recent pornhub/visa/mastercard debacle. i personally wondered/worried if all of that would inevitably lead to an industry-wide situation where credit card processors would do a huge sweep of reviewing adult sites and then potentially give some of them (like token sites) at least a warning/slap on the wrist, or more. i just thought that it might lead to sites cracking down on certain rules they were more lax on before. but from what i can tell, that didn't happen / hasn't happened yet. maybe someone else can chime in with more specific insight in that regard.
i can't tell you why mfc or CB has gotten away with so much for so long. i'm curious too. i personally just prefer to be on SM in the context of all these rules - because they (SM) seem to care more about staying within the arbitrary credit card-related guidelines than other sites. i feel like if any sites are eventually going to go down for breaking certain policies, it's going to be a lot of other sites way before SM. somehow SM feels safer/more legit to me.
but i 100% hear you and generally agree with what you said.
Well that’s a relief about the snakes but still questionable lol. I’ve wondered too how the visa/mc thing would affect token sites and also feel more at peace with SM in that way. Removing nudity and sexual explicitness from public chat (on token sites) to prevent minors from easy viewing would be a step in the right direction imo. But if they were to crack down on removing pets from cam that would still be a bit extreme especially since the average cam girl is normal and not depraved or a psychopath. Nobody (I hope) is actually engaging in beastiality or entertaining the animal “crush” fetish for example bc these are our beloved pets… and this is why I'd guess token sites can still allow pets to this day. It would be pretty much impossible to slide under the radar committing those acts on a live cam site with real time viewers who can immediately report you vs. having that type of content on a fetish clip site where it could be uploaded and go unnoticed forever. Not to be judgey but I feel like the types of guys who visit fetish clip sites are more depraved than the average viewer on a token site.
- I heard stories about Humiliation and Findom being a grey area. Is that correct?
Uhh I really hope humiliation and sph and findom are not in some kind of grey area as these are some of my top shows. It’s femdom. Pretty sure these are fine, please be fine...
Edit: Forgot that some official tip menu options are insult, SPH, and tribute so pretty sure it's fine?
itslacey
02-23-2021, 12:49 PM
Is your webcam old? Does it tend to happen when you’re moving the cam?
No its not old its a logitech only got it 6 months ago. Maybe its the model (B525) bought it when corona was at its peak and wasn't any other webcams in stock. Maybe I should buy a better webcam maybe?
kamiliam
02-23-2021, 01:12 PM
Most of us LIVE in the grey area. Sissy? Cuck? Findom? CBT? With increased demand for definition a lot of that will not be allowed.
And I would bet there is a model or multiple models who thinks it’s cute to have her puppy next to her while masturbating that often goes further for the right amount of money. It actually grosses me out when I see a pet on cam, I’ve had many customers say the same thing. That is where your suspensions are coming from. Lots of people don’t think pets and documented sex acts mix in anyway.
Genoveve
02-23-2021, 01:14 PM
No its not old its a logitech only got it 6 months ago. Maybe its the model (B525) bought it when corona was at its peak and wasn't any other webcams in stock. Maybe I should buy a better webcam maybe?
Does it happen when you move the camera around? I ask because if my webcam USBs get jostled the slightest bit in the port my cams will disconnect on SM, I assume it’s my laptop’s issue because it happens with multiple cameras even my new one. I actually just taped the usb into the port with electrical tape so it cannot happen anymore.
minibagel
02-23-2021, 01:18 PM
Most of us LIVE in the grey area. Sissy? Cuck? Findom? CBT? With increased demand for definition a lot of that will not be allowed.
And I would bet there is a model or multiple models who thinks it’s cute to have her puppy next to her while masturbating that often goes further for the right amount of money. It actually grosses me out when I see a pet on cam, I’ve had many customers say the same thing. That is where your suspensions are coming from. Lots of people don’t think pets and documented sex acts mix in anyway.
I only got suspended once over a year ago when I started SM. My pets were in free chat and I was fully clothed. I have never masturbated on SM and I don’t do explicit shows, I am mostly a non nude domme..
I don’t think pets should be on cam during sex acts either.
itslacey
02-23-2021, 01:33 PM
Does it happen when you move the camera around? I ask because if my webcam USBs get jostled the slightest bit in the port my cams will disconnect on SM, I assume it’s my laptop’s issue because it happens with multiple cameras even my new one. I actually just taped the usb into the port with electrical tape so it cannot happen anymore.
hmmm yh good point hun, it could be that because I use a macbook pro (without the usb outlet) so i use an adapter to plug my webcam in so it may just be that when I make the slightest move it disconnects. Gonna buy a new adapter.
kamiliam
02-23-2021, 01:47 PM
I only got suspended once over a year ago when I started SM. My pets were in free chat and I was fully clothed. I have never masturbated on SM and I don’t do explicit shows, I am mostly a non nude domme..
I don’t think pets should be on cam during sex acts either.
Sorry if it seemed like I was saying you were getting multiple suspensions I just meant in general. Reports that lead to suspension often seems to come from free chat. It is still sexual guys are masturbating it doesn’t matter if you are non nude, it is still a sexual situation in freechat. Even non nude shows are sexual, doesn’t matter if they aren’t jacking off at the time even they will later.
Luci Fer
02-23-2021, 01:48 PM
I really hope they rethink this strategy. I know where they are trying to go with it. If they get models who are from the customer's country on top the customer may spend on those models.
I have heard a LOT of complaints from customers over the years of 'foreign models' so I think they are doing the change to appease the customers. Now in my own personal surveys of chatting with these users firsthand - most are not racist or xenophobic, they just want an english speaking model because that's what they speak and they want to make sure they get the show that will get them off.
My issue with this if you live in a generally poorer country or less populated country than where you were appearing as your traffic will likely suffer OR your earnings can suffer because you are showing at the top row front page IN A POOR COUNTRY! WHO CARES !? THEY HAVE NO MONEY ! Now your target audience is wherever the fuck you live potentially exposing you and your safety (if you live in a small country and dont use geoblock)
I'm sure most models want to be seen as from somewhere in the UK, or USA since that's where the most paying customers seem to be coming from. If they want to sort by spoken languages so customers can optimally find models who speak their language: that's fine with me.
Overall I want all cam sites to focus on organizing models better by WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE PERFORM, and WHAT WE HAVE TO SELL RIGHT NOW, not painting us with whatever brush based on where we are living and just relying on the old and tired sales technique of 'local girls ready to fuck' which only caters to the broke guys who weren't going to do shows anyway because they think the site is tinder.
/endrant LOL
god, I couldnot say better! Actually, yes, all girls would like to be viewed as if they re from the UK/US, I think. Also, is it this hard for a guy to ask a girl ' do you speak english?' Honestly I don't really see it as an excuse to change the things they way they changed it, just because guys complain about non-english speakers. Usually they just tag them and the problem is solved. So it's not about customers problems. Besides, model can just block the users from the contry she's in, so what's the point?
I ve seen a girl who s Canadian, but now it shows different country in her profile, so how do they set the display country for her? Definitely not by her ID, I bet. I still cant understand the way it works.
They could just hide it, like in MFC.
Luci Fer
02-23-2021, 01:53 PM
Ive seen US models who live abroad and still have US as display country. I asked to get US as display country and they couldn't because only models who are a US citizen can get that! Something to do with taxes I think?
Please dont cam from Bali, lol. You can't without bypassing their internet porn laws, its illegal. I was on vacation there and couldn't even access Reddit. Dont know if you wanted to do that, or if its just an example but be warned!
Bali was just random example , haha. Maybe it's my subconscious which wants some vacation, arrrgh. If I may ask, you asked them about US as display country, because you cam from there, but you r not a citizen?
Luci Fer
02-23-2021, 02:00 PM
Allright, so what's not allowed on SM? Maybe we can make a comprehensive list because the TOS and support isn't so clear, lol. Maybe we can make some kind of guide ourselves :)
- Children and unauthorized people on cam (well duh) NOT ALLOWED
- Piss/poop/blood/menstruation NOT ALLOWED
- Social Media links/Other Platforms/Skype/Teamviewer NOT ALLOWED
- Animals, not even on cam. Do you get suspended for having your animal in the frame for a second, accidentally? Would like to know
- Weapons/knives. Are props allowed? Air soft/paint ball guns allowed?
- Is squirting a grey area?
- Blackmail fetish/RP. I did it in the past, is it allowed on SM? Its a felony in the US, thats what I know
- I heard stories about Humiliation and Findom being a grey area. Is that correct?
- Getting called Mommy or calling a customer Daddy, would really like to know. Allowed or not? Other incest RP like aunt, sister, not allowed?
- Step mom and Step sister, allowed or not?
- Raceplay, can understand its a grey area. Not saying I do that (I dont). Is it allowed?
Anybody have answers or things to add to this list? :)
And the most interesting question, what's left as ''allowed'' after that? lol
I asked SM about blackmail - they told it was not allowed.
Also- I had photoset with a knife and it was rejected. Then I saw another girl who has pics with a knife, so Idk how they judge it. Maybe my knife was bigger haha.
Also some pics with fake bloodwere rejected too, and boom - I see some pics of another model with fake blood, and I just 'argghhhh why SM why';[
fetishqueen
02-23-2021, 03:37 PM
Seems to me that every single site has a few rule-breakers that continually seem to get away with things. That's what makes me annoyed. Rules are rules and I don't get why there is ambiguity. Is it coincidence that the ones who break the rules and blatantly getting away with it also seem to be some of the top earners? I'm not being critical of successful models. Just the very few who think they can get away with stuff that would get most of us suspended or banned, and DO get away with it too. This is on other sites too, not just SM. Rules are a grey enough area without one or two spoiling it for the rest of us.
moneybags
02-23-2021, 09:56 PM
And the most interesting question, what's left as ''allowed'' after that? [
To be honest I’m a vanilla model....lol. I suck at fetish, but that does make me wonder what’s actually allowed...lol. I have feeling they say it’s all not allowed then look the other way if a model is a high earner. I’m telling you it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission. Getting models to agree on boundaries is probably not likely. It couldn’t hurt to do a anonymous poll to see what models do and don’t do just to have vague idea of what’s “allowed.” If you go down that rabbit hole of getting specificity from SM it could backfire and all of sudden things they overlooked could start getting penalized. Adult work is about risk management.
Tonight is so random. I lowered my rates and I’m staying busy. I might raise them, but right now I’d rather be busy and give half ass vanilla shows. They aren’t getting premium shows unless they tip or get a block. I’ll be as lazy as possible. That’s what these guys don’t get. You get what you pay for! I also am doing zero chat in free other than hi how are you? Cause for a reduced price we can go to private and chat.
Also, sorry for the novel, I wish we could customize our wishlist. How about a weeks worth of groceries from whole market...lol. I know it’s not sexy, but groceries are expensive!
minibagel
02-23-2021, 11:02 PM
Sorry if it seemed like I was saying you were getting multiple suspensions I just meant in general. Reports that lead to suspension often seems to come from free chat. It is still sexual guys are masturbating it doesn’t matter if you are non nude, it is still a sexual situation in freechat. Even non nude shows are sexual, doesn’t matter if they aren’t jacking off at the time even they will later.
No worries and I guess my stance is that credit card processors can’t take action over the private thoughts of camsite viewers, and that SM is being overly cautious but that’s their decision. They want to eliminate the risk altogether.
Just saying it seems like there would need to be clear evidence of animal abuse for MFC and CB to ever change their pet rule and that’s probably why they're still allowed on cam over there. I don’t believe most cam girls would be willing to abuse their own pets for the right price
Yes, we could be nonnude while a freak faps away with whatever sick fantasies they might have.. but thankfully we have no idea what guys are really thinking unless they type it out and even then they are just words on a screen. This is a virtual platform so we can block and report and never deal with them again. We cannot help what a viewer is privately thinking and if nothing is ever acted out with video evidence what can the credit card processors actually do? Prob nothing
minibagel
02-23-2021, 11:30 PM
Seems to me that every single site has a few rule-breakers that continually seem to get away with things. That's what makes me annoyed. Rules are rules and I don't get why there is ambiguity. Is it coincidence that the ones who break the rules and blatantly getting away with it also seem to be some of the top earners? I'm not being critical of successful models. Just the very few who think they can get away with stuff that would get most of us suspended or banned, and DO get away with it too. This is on other sites too, not just SM. Rules are a grey enough area without one or two spoiling it for the rest of us.
Not coincidence, just favoritism
bigbum
02-24-2021, 05:01 AM
Not coincidence, just favoritism
hmmm i have to disagree. i think the ban hammer comes around equally to rule breakers it just takes longer sometimes .
the main issue i think is those gray areas , that worry that ill some how get banned for even though i had no idea it broke the rules.
thats where i think favoritism comes into play.
i have a friend on here who was in the top 20 of the contest last week long time model with SM and she got a week ban or something for rule breaking she told me.
it if was just clearly listed in a chart or something. in black and white and clearly written then we will all be aware of the policies.
bigbum
02-24-2021, 05:03 AM
To be honest I’m a vanilla model....lol. I suck at fetish, but that does make me wonder what’s actually allowed...lol. I have feeling they say it’s all not allowed then look the other way if a model is a high earner. I’m telling you it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission. Getting models to agree on boundaries is probably not likely. It couldn’t hurt to do a anonymous poll to see what models do and don’t do just to have vague idea of what’s “allowed.” If you go down that rabbit hole of getting specificity from SM it could backfire and all of sudden things they overlooked could start getting penalized. Adult work is about risk management.
Tonight is so random. I lowered my rates and I’m staying busy. I might raise them, but right now I’d rather be busy and give half ass vanilla shows. They aren’t getting premium shows unless they tip or get a block. I’ll be as lazy as possible. That’s what these guys don’t get. You get what you pay for! I also am doing zero chat in free other than hi how are you? Cause for a reduced price we can go to private and chat.
Also, sorry for the novel, I wish we could customize our wishlist. How about a weeks worth of groceries from whole market...lol. I know it’s not sexy, but groceries are expensive!
lol even if i slack a LITTLE and am not topless within 2 minutes. i get a 1 star some how. mostly from sissys and cucks they ALWAYS give me 1 stars. why ? i have no idea.
cucks hate it when i talk about a real man or boyfriend.. even though thats what they ask for a real man story or situation.. WTF lol.
bigbum
02-24-2021, 05:15 AM
Allright, so what's not allowed on SM? Maybe we can make a comprehensive list because the TOS and support isn't so clear, lol. Maybe we can make some kind of guide ourselves :)
- Children and unauthorized people on cam (well duh) NOT ALLOWED
- Piss/poop/blood/menstruation NOT ALLOWED
- Social Media links/Other Platforms/Skype/Teamviewer NOT ALLOWED
- Animals, not even on cam. Do you get suspended for having your animal in the frame for a second, accidentally? Would like to know
- Weapons/knives. Are props allowed? Air soft/paint ball guns allowed?
- Is squirting a grey area?
- Blackmail fetish/RP. I did it in the past, is it allowed on SM? Its a felony in the US, thats what I know
- I heard stories about Humiliation and Findom being a grey area. Is that correct?
- Getting called Mommy or calling a customer Daddy, would really like to know. Allowed or not? Other incest RP like aunt, sister, not allowed?
- Step mom and Step sister, allowed or not?
- Raceplay, can understand its a grey area. Not saying I do that (I dont). Is it allowed?
Anybody have answers or things to add to this list? :)
- Piss/poop/blood/menstruation NOT ALLOWED--- you cant even talk about it like I WANNA SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH, or even squat and pretend to pee in their mouth or talk about it. you cannot even talk about potty stuff at all. thats what i was told. because i did a lot of shows with talking about those things with subs.
--no stuffed animals, no acting too young or cute even if just acting.
--step roleplays only, step cousin, step brother, are ok, however unclear if username is "daddy" how to address client,
--raceplay? unknown, yet bbc is some how ok.. what are the raceplay limits?
--no asphyxiation or choking with rope ect (since some poor girl died from that ) this one is a obviously a no and its in the Terms of the site.
--- no peeing at all even if you call it squirting (though i see girls on the free chat top earners doing this daily with pee pads down on the bed and laughing about it , but whatever)
anyone else want to add?
can anyone elaborate on Humiliation and Findom ?
Genoveve
02-24-2021, 09:40 AM
lol even if i slack a LITTLE and am not topless within 2 minutes. i get a 1 star some how. mostly from sissys and cucks they ALWAYS give me 1 stars.
Do you only do fetish? Because a lot of times vanilla guys will try to pretend they have XYZ fetish just to get in pvt only to proceed to just try to rush you naked or topless and shit so they can leave. I just block, or if I think that they actually do have the fetish and are just cheap I ask them who the fuck they think they are to tell ME what to do and proceed to do things my way. A lot of my sissies and cucks aren’t into nudity or toplessness though; sissies because they’re more into cock and cucks because they ‘don’t deserve it.’
MsJess
02-24-2021, 09:53 AM
ALL of the babestation girls on streamate: instagram, snap, twitter, live on babestation tv, etc. etc WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Is this allowed or not?
Also, alot of studio girls with their IG and TW...
CAN WE SHARE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA NOW? cause if WE CAN! I'm blasting all my urls there!!!!!
minibagel
02-24-2021, 10:09 AM
hmmm i have to disagree. i think the ban hammer comes around equally to rule breakers it just takes longer sometimes .
the main issue i think is those gray areas , that worry that ill some how get banned for even though i had no idea it broke the rules.
thats where i think favoritism comes into play.
i have a friend on here who was in the top 20 of the contest last week long time model with SM and she got a week ban or something for rule breaking she told me.
it if was just clearly listed in a chart or something. in black and white and clearly written then we will all be aware of the policies.
I think favoritism surely exists to some degree on cam sites and in all industries, it’s just a fact of life. People are not treated equally and cam sites tend to turn the other cheek to the ones who bring home the big money
Your friend might have been suspended but when are they ever permabanned? Like fetishqueen said, they just get slaps on the wrist time after time. I can only think of a few examples of permanent bans (on another site) and you pretty much have to commit the ultimate betrayal for a site to make the decision to cut off a top earner. There is a much lower tolerance for rule breaking with everyone else.
With that said, I have no idea who the top models are on SM except for one who was interviewed by Business Insider haha
gbjenna
02-24-2021, 11:15 AM
--step roleplays only, step cousin, step brother, are ok, however unclear if username is "daddy" how to address client,
There was a discussion about this quite some time ago so I asked and I was told by support that any sort of family roleplay, step or otherwise, is not allowed. I've stopped doing them since, but loads of people seem to do them and have no issues. I don't think it's strictly enforced. Just to add, I also remember someone else saying they asked and they were told step family is fine. There doesn't seem to be a straight answer. It's probably worth asking.
AuroraJade
02-24-2021, 11:42 AM
Cam is so weird today. I sit in my room for 5-10 mins, no traffic, then the traffic comes pouring in. I also see they changed the streaming interface. And I sometimes have to click 'start stream' two times to show up online, What the hell?
DeliveryLadyx
02-24-2021, 11:50 AM
Cam is so weird today. I sit in my room for 5-10 mins, no traffic, then the traffic comes pouring in. I also see they changed the streaming interface. And I sometimes have to click 'start stream' two times to show up online, What the hell?
yes, right! At least this evening is 0 traffic but loads of potentials, i restarted stream and for 10 minutes i couldn't connect, was circling constantly despite refreshing. Am getting bloody sick of this site.
minibagel
02-24-2021, 12:26 PM
^Similar experience last night. Traffic was decent but there were lulls where I'd have 0 people but like 3-4 potentials and I have geoblock on so I am pretty sure it should always say 0... and when I would reset it would take forever to log on.
Does anyone know why my potentials never say 0 anymore when they should since I have geoblock? It rarely says 0 anymore, maybe briefly, lately it seems like the second I log on it will say 1 and fluctuate up to 3 and I've seen it as high as 6 most recently on Sunday when it was busy
Cristina Streamate
02-24-2021, 12:53 PM
Hi DeliveryLadyx, my name is Cristina and I am the UK Representative for Streamate. If you keep on having issues just drop me a message and I will happily get back to you. You can find me at
[email protected]
We can investigate in more detail the lack of traffic you mentioned. x
Jopka
02-24-2021, 01:08 PM
I really hope they rethink this strategy. I know where they are trying to go with it. If they get models who are from the customer's country on top the customer may spend on those models.
My issue with this if you live in a generally poorer country or less populated country than where you were appearing as your traffic will likely suffer OR your earnings can suffer because you are showing at the top row front page IN A POOR COUNTRY! WHO CARES !? THEY HAVE NO MONEY !
/endrant LOL
Dont you think its ignorant to call out some countries as POOR on an international forum?Sounds somewhat unschooled to me considering we live in a time of acceptance of all races, nationalities, religions ,body types.I get your point but the language you use is just unacceptable.
Cristina Streamate
02-24-2021, 01:10 PM
Hi Aurora, my name is Cristina and I am one of the Streamate UK Representatives so I will be able to shed some light on the above questions x
Do you get suspended for having your animal in the frame for a second, accidentally? - animals are not allowed 100% on cam, not even a peak.
Weapons/knives. Are props allowed? Air soft/paint ball guns allowed? - nothing of this sort is allowed, not even white weapons like knives.
Is squirting a grey area? - no, squirting is totally allowed, but obviously in private.
Blackmail fetish/RP. I did it in the past, is it allowed on SM? Its a felony in the US, thats what I know - Blackmail fetish is 100% forbidden.
I heard stories about Humiliation and Findom being a grey area. Is that correct? - you are not allowed to display this on your profile, no.
- Getting called Mommy or calling a customer Daddy, would really like to know. Allowed or not? Other incest RP like aunt, sister, not allowed? - nothing referring to incest is allowed, the furthest we can go is stepmom/dad/brother.
- Step mom and Step sister, allowed or not? - yes, if it's not a blood relative, it's allowed.
- Raceplay, can understand its a grey area. Not saying I do that (I dont). Is it allowed? - is not allowed either.
Hope this answers your questions x
Miss_ShaSha
02-24-2021, 01:13 PM
Hi Aurora, my name is Cristina and I am one of the Streamate UK Representatives so I will be able to shed some light on the above questions x
Do you get suspended for having your animal in the frame for a second, accidentally? - animals are not allowed 100% on cam, not even a peak.
Weapons/knives. Are props allowed? Air soft/paint ball guns allowed? - nothing of this sort is allowed, not even white weapons like knives.
Is squirting a grey area? - no, squirting is totally allowed, but obviously in private.
Blackmail fetish/RP. I did it in the past, is it allowed on SM? Its a felony in the US, thats what I know - Blackmail fetish is 100% forbidden.
I heard stories about Humiliation and Findom being a grey area. Is that correct? - you are not allowed to display this on your profile, no.
- Getting called Mommy or calling a customer Daddy, would really like to know. Allowed or not? Other incest RP like aunt, sister, not allowed? - nothing referring to incest is allowed, the furthest we can go is stepmom/dad/brother.
- Step mom and Step sister, allowed or not? - yes, if it's not a blood relative, it's allowed.
- Raceplay, can understand its a grey area. Not saying I do that (I dont). Is it allowed? - is not allowed either.
Hope this answers your questions x
Huge THANKS!
fetishqueen
02-24-2021, 01:15 PM
How much do I hate customers who have a lovely show, then do nothing but pester afterwards? In and out of free, how do I do this, how do I do that? It's so disappointing! I work so hard to give people a good time and hope they come back and some just spoil it. One more stupid message and this guy's getting blocked! I feel better now! :D
Genoveve
02-24-2021, 01:22 PM
Dont you think its ignorant to call out some countries as POOR on an international forum?
No?
we live in a time of acceptance of all races, nationalities, religions ,body types.
But what does that have to do with the fact that some countries ARE in fact poor? MissAdriana wasn't using it as an insult, she was actually trying to stick up for camgirls who live in countries that are more......impoverished. ??
https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/the-poorest-countries-in-the-world
Jopka, is English not your first language? I ask because your username sounds like it could be Eastern European, I think there might be a language barrier issue here. 'Poor' can be used in the west as derogatorily and factually, it's not a necessarily slur.
Jopka
02-24-2021, 01:27 PM
No? Ok, so if i think you are overweight in my opinion, i can call you a FAT ONE? I mean, it is what it is , right?
Genoveve
02-24-2021, 01:30 PM
Definitely a language barrier issue. There's no connection between calling a country that is factually poor poor and body shaming people. ??
Jopka
02-24-2021, 01:32 PM
LOL, double standards as its finest.Not surprised.
Genoveve
02-24-2021, 01:34 PM
Mmmkay. Again can't be double standards when there's zero connection with your two examples.
AuroraJade
02-24-2021, 01:39 PM
Hi DeliveryLadyx, my name is Cristina and I am the UK Representative for Streamate. If you keep on having issues just drop me a message and I will happily get back to you. You can find me at
[email protected]
We can investigate in more detail the lack of traffic you mentioned. x
I sent you an email regarding the tech/traffic issues :) I hope you dont mind!
Luci Fer
02-24-2021, 02:18 PM
ALL of the babestation girls on streamate: instagram, snap, twitter, live on babestation tv, etc. etc WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Is this allowed or not?
Also, alot of studio girls with their IG and TW...
CAN WE SHARE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA NOW? cause if WE CAN! I'm blasting all my urls there!!!!!
Just saw a girl who posted her cammodels link on her description the text which is justabose 'my turn ons'), saying it will give a bonus to her and a user. Well, damn. Maybe it is allowed as well already?
Luci Fer
02-24-2021, 02:29 PM
No?
But what does that have to do with the fact that some countries ARE in fact poor? MissAdriana wasn't using it as an insult, she was actually trying to stick up for camgirls who live in countries that are more......impoverished. ??
https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/the-poorest-countries-in-the-world
Jopka, is English not your first language? I ask because your username sounds like it could be Eastern European, I think there might be a language barrier issue here. 'Poor' can be used in the west as derogatorily and factually, it's not a necessarily slur.
Yeah I guess MissAdriana was just stating a fact, because most of the good customers are from US and for example, I ve never had any dude from eastern block who spent a bunch on me. It's mostly Northern Europe or US. Not trying to insult here, just talking from personal experience.
Luci Fer
02-24-2021, 02:42 PM
To be honest I’m a vanilla model....lol. I suck at fetish, but that does make me wonder what’s actually allowed...lol. I have feeling they say it’s all not allowed then look the other way if a model is a high earner. I’m telling you it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission. Getting models to agree on boundaries is probably not likely. It couldn’t hurt to do a anonymous poll to see what models do and don’t do just to have vague idea of what’s “allowed.” If you go down that rabbit hole of getting specificity from SM it could backfire and all of sudden things they overlooked could start getting penalized. Adult work is about risk management.
Tonight is so random. I lowered my rates and I’m staying busy. I might raise them, but right now I’d rather be busy and give half ass vanilla shows. They aren’t getting premium shows unless they tip or get a block. I’ll be as lazy as possible. That’s what these guys don’t get. You get what you pay for! I also am doing zero chat in free other than hi how are you? Cause for a reduced price we can go to private and chat.
Also, sorry for the novel, I wish we could customize our wishlist. How about a weeks worth of groceries from whole market...lol. I know it’s not sexy, but groceries are expensive!
Ahah,literallly the first thought I had when they released their Wishlist feature! The ability to customize, so it looks different in every girl's room. I think guys really love it when you invent some interesting things you do for tips for example. The same about that wishlist. Maybe should we let them know it via feedback or so? They seem to react with good improvements sometimes.
Never thought of reducing my prices to get busier and lazier, your point is really good here!
I agree about asking SM too much, just feeling the same about it. They don't let full nudity in free, its their basic rule, and still there are girls who do that, and it is probably all about being/not being caught. So there re really not just double standards, they are triple...quadruple...lol
Luci Fer
02-24-2021, 02:48 PM
--no asphyxiation or choking with rope ect (since some poor girl died from that ) this one is a obviously a no and its in the Terms of the site.
Oh my. So some model died from it and they banned it?
AcidYellow
02-24-2021, 03:07 PM
Cam is so weird today. I sit in my room for 5-10 mins, no traffic, then the traffic comes pouring in. I also see they changed the streaming interface. And I sometimes have to click 'start stream' two times to show up online, What the hell?
Yes. Same here. Glitchy af today well well, could be weird when is not pffff -_-
Dahlia Fallon
02-24-2021, 03:14 PM
^Similar experience last night. Traffic was decent but there were lulls where I'd have 0 people but like 3-4 potentials and I have geoblock on so I am pretty sure it should always say 0... and when I would reset it would take forever to log on.
Does anyone know why my potentials never say 0 anymore when they should since I have geoblock? It rarely says 0 anymore, maybe briefly, lately it seems like the second I log on it will say 1 and fluctuate up to 3 and I've seen it as high as 6 most recently on Sunday when it was busy
If you have geoblock on the customer has to be logged in to see you online on the main page but that doesn't mean they will stay logged on to view you. When a customer logs in they can only stream one model at a time so some of them open your stream using an incognito browser or just log out and use your direct link to watch more than one stream at a time. They do get 'sneak preview expired' quite often though so they cant sit there watching for too long without logging in.
If you had a sudden increase higher than your usual it might have been those times where there was that weird glitch where customers were getting signed out at random
But stayed in your room.
minibagel
02-24-2021, 03:38 PM
^But I thought models who have geoblock enabled should always have a number that shows 0?
I found this out when another model said her potentials were around 80 or some crazy high amount cuz mine always used to show 0-1 lol. Now it's fluctuates from 1-3 but sometimes up to 6 which I notice on high traffic nights
Dahlia Fallon
02-24-2021, 03:48 PM
The only models with potentials permanently at zero are those who have used the preferences setting to turn them off. Even if you have geoblock on customers can log out and go to your room using the web address or an incognito browser as long as they are outside of your geo blocked area
minibagel
02-24-2021, 05:00 PM
Interesting, thank you. Can I ask what everyone else's average potential viewer #s are? Especially those with geoblock on?
When I say it's normally 1-3, I mean the base number is 0-1 it might go up to 3 then it'll drop back to 0-1. Seems pretty low compared to someone getting 80 for example