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Marina Starr
04-15-2013, 05:27 PM
Don't worry too much about making your goal. Once you start the show, more guys will pledge. I do it to avoid free chat!

I tried doing GSs today for the first time..didn't make goal the 1st countdown but made it the 2nd...not that bad...;D

Snowy0Star
04-15-2013, 06:53 PM
ask for the break button so that you can put yourself on a min or two of timeout after each private

i need to do that 30 seconds is not enuf to get the undies and the bra back on by 20 seconds i normally have my undies in my hand the right way and ready to be pulled up (i only wear full back )

hillarylynk
04-15-2013, 07:31 PM
I started to use the encoder and its been ok the last few nights and my internet is only 0.99mbps .I have been camming for a couple weeks now though and still am not enabled for gold shows, I am not sure if this is because my internet is too slow even though I am using the encoder? not sure? I really want to get approved soon to start doing gold shows and I think my raiting s should be good.anyone know why I am not enabled for gold shows yet.could it be my internet speed?

PrincessLuna
04-15-2013, 08:07 PM
I started to use the encoder and its been ok the last few nights and my internet is only 0.99mbps .I have been camming for a couple weeks now though and still am not enabled for gold shows, I am not sure if this is because my internet is too slow even though I am using the encoder? not sure? I really want to get approved soon to start doing gold shows and I think my raiting s should be good.anyone know why I am not enabled for gold shows yet.could it be my internet speed?

If you've got 5 5star ratings then message support asking it to be enabled.

VoluptiousBriadda
04-15-2013, 10:56 PM
I started to use the encoder and its been ok the last few nights and my internet is only 0.99mbps .I have been camming for a couple weeks now though and still am not enabled for gold shows, I am not sure if this is because my internet is too slow even though I am using the encoder? not sure? I really want to get approved soon to start doing gold shows and I think my raiting s should be good.anyone know why I am not enabled for gold shows yet.could it be my internet speed?

Ive heard some models complain of using the encoder and having a 5 star rating and still not getting gold shows enabled when asked bc SM stated they needed more time under their belt (this is when theyre generally very new,like a few days to a few weeks).So if you ask for them and still get denied,dont worry,just keep camming and keep asking every few weeks,theyll eventually enable it if everything else is kosher.

JackAlexander
04-15-2013, 11:11 PM
I started to use the encoder and its been ok the last few nights and my internet is only 0.99mbps .I have been camming for a couple weeks now though and still am not enabled for gold shows, I am not sure if this is because my internet is too slow even though I am using the encoder? not sure? I really want to get approved soon to start doing gold shows and I think my raiting s should be good.anyone know why I am not enabled for gold shows yet.could it be my internet speed?

After 5 weeks and 5 stars I asked support what other criteria did I personally need to meet. They responded with - "Gold Shows Now enabled"

ScarletSage
04-16-2013, 02:35 PM
I asked after couple of months (not regullarly on though) and 5 star rating, they answered saying that the GS system is automatic and when I cam regularly, have at least 4.5 stars, use HD encoder, that system automaticly enables GS shows. "The more you're on line and chatting with members in paid sessions the better your chances of getting gold shows!" They also said that they are not the ones who decides eligibility for GS's. I don't think this is true. Is it?

hillarylynk
04-16-2013, 04:23 PM
I asked after couple of months (not regullarly on though) and 5 star rating, they answered saying that the GS system is automatic and when I cam regularly, have at least 4.5 stars, use HD encoder, that system automaticly enables GS shows. "The more you're on line and chatting with members in paid sessions the better your chances of getting gold shows!" They also said that they are not the ones who decides eligibility for GS's. I don't think this is true. Is it?

well I don't think its true that they automatically just give you gold shows by the system because as soon as I emailed support to raise my exclusive rates they enabled my gold shows.They also said I am eligible to opt in tv broadcast. I was wondering does everyone who can do gold shows opt in to the tv thing or do they only pick like the top model girls for the tv thing? I am excited going to try my first gold show tonight!

BlueBunny
04-16-2013, 04:35 PM
Do you think that perhaps GS are automatically enabled if you have 5 stars, use encoder, and are above a certain % of time in paid? I wonder if time is paid is an unofficial factor. I don't have GS enabled either but I don't want to contact support yet. Last week I had a couple days of 4% in paid chat so blah, that doesn't look good for me. lol It's slowly getting a bit better though.

hillarylynk
04-16-2013, 05:05 PM
blue bunny I don't think it has to do with percentage . I sat online for 6 hours and only made 80 dollars last night and my paid chat percentage is afully low to..I am hoping gold shows will help improve my traffic and placement,because even though I stream with encoder my placement is horrible like 2nd to5th page and I am in usa and I like to think decent looking lol..I am new too so hoping it gets better

Snowy0Star
04-16-2013, 05:09 PM
last week it was 28% in pvt is that good or bad if bad what should i be aiming for?

sammii
04-16-2013, 05:24 PM
^ It really depends on what you're charging, but I'm more concerned about my hourly rate than I am about daily time online.

Snowy0Star
04-16-2013, 05:34 PM
isnt that what they base ur placement off of tho?

PrincessLuna
04-16-2013, 05:44 PM
isnt that what they base ur placement off of tho?

Support has told me you only need 3% in private. This is mainly because gold shows are so big. So, percentage in paid isn't a huge deal.

Snowy0Star
04-16-2013, 05:51 PM
then how do u get better placement?

PrincessLuna
04-16-2013, 05:54 PM
then how do u get better placement?

Spending at least 3% of your time in paid chat, using the encoder, having top notch internet (2+Mbps upload) and putting in a minimum of 15 hours per week. I think adding a schedule is in there too, but I"m not sure.

Snowy0Star
04-16-2013, 06:11 PM
Spending at least 3% of your time in paid chat, using the encoder, having top notch internet (2+Mbps upload) and putting in a minimum of 15 hours per week. I think adding a schedule is in there too, but I"m not sure.

i guess all i need to do is start using the encoder i just did a speed test and it was 3.46 im on 4 hours everyday and i have schedule up

VoluptiousBriadda
04-17-2013, 12:21 AM
I asked after couple of months (not regullarly on though) and 5 star rating, they answered saying that the GS system is automatic and when I cam regularly, have at least 4.5 stars, use HD encoder, that system automaticly enables GS shows. "The more you're on line and chatting with members in paid sessions the better your chances of getting gold shows!" They also said that they are not the ones who decides eligibility for GS's. I don't think this is true. Is it?

They automatically approved me for gold shows and gave me the tv option as well,and I def didnt ask for them.In fact,I detested the thought of doing them and was vehemently against trying gold shows so I never ever asked.BUT it did take months before they enabled them for me - granted,I was only camming consecutively the first few mths until I got sick in Dec.,my schedule has since been sporadic as hell due to health issues.

So no you dont have to be a top girl to have tv shows ENABLED,they should offer you that option once theyve enabled gold shows for you.It shouldnt take you months to get gold shows enabled if you are doing/have everything else they require for them AND you keep asking,eventually someone will see your email and enable them for ya.

MarleyCat
04-17-2013, 12:25 AM
Lol, nevermind I forgot that I was messing around and put myself in the non-nude category. xD

seller317
04-17-2013, 01:52 AM
I did that once and wondered why my traffic dropped until a custy mentioned I was in non-nude and Im like wtf?

Missymissdemeanour
04-17-2013, 09:30 AM
With regards to Gold Shows. I was using the encoder, had 5 stars, cammed consistentley, regularly and for more than 6 months so thought I would ask for Gold Shows to be enabled. I emailled support and was told that they review accounts for Gold Shows on a weekly basis every Thursday (I think it was Thursdays lol) and enabled those who qualified automatically. After several weeks of not being enabled I emailed support again only to recieve the same response! My next move was to contact Vanessa, (I can't remember her details so you will have to search the forum, sorry ladies but it's good practice for you ;)), she advised me that although I was using the encoder, I had it set up wrong! She told me where to find the settings info and to let her know when I had done this. I was enabled and ready to go within 30 minutes!
So if you feel you should have Gold Shows and haven't had them enabled yet, check your encoder settings first, because SM won't tell you if that is the problem, and as good as Vanessa is/was she might not be in a position to do the same now.

As an aside, I rarely did Gold Shows after all that, I had real trouble hitting goal and was fed up with the cheap asses, but I have found a way I can use them to my advantage without making me feel cheap and wanting to tear my hair out! ;)

Cam_Model_Jess
04-17-2013, 09:50 AM
Spending at least 3% of your time in paid chat, using the encoder, having top notch internet (2+Mbps upload) and putting in a minimum of 15 hours per week. I think adding a schedule is in there too, but I"m not sure.

3% is the minimum you need for them to not suspend your account. The higher your percentage, the higher your placement. If you want the best possible placement, keep trying to raise your percentage & note when your placement goes up. There are so many variables involved, such as who else is online when you're online, so it's hard to get an accurate picture. But I have noticed that my placement immediately goes up quite a bit when my percentage increases. So much so that I now include watching my percentage as a determining factor in whether or not I stay online. If I'm getting so few shows that my percentage is dropping significantly, I sign off & try again later. I know not everyone has this luxury. I've always said "overexposure negatively affects my earnings," but now I have the numbers to put with that statement.

JoyKitten
04-17-2013, 10:52 AM
I agree with Cam_Model_Jess. It seems the higher my percentage, the higher on the page I appear. That's why I cater to my regulars, so they keep me in paid chat, which then raises my placement, which thereby helps new guys find me.

Filling out my schedule did seem to make a bit of a difference too. For over a year I hadn't had one, now I do and I seem a bit busier. Until I saw this thread I thought it was a coincidence.

If there's too much time being burned up in free chat, I'll log off. It's a touchy thing though. Kind of hard to tell when to give up and go offline. The other night it was dead for the first 15 minutes, guys just lurkin' and jerkin'. Then I told them I was logging off for the night and then *poof!* I was busy for an hour and a half. This is a crazy business.

TheBrownFox
04-17-2013, 12:40 PM
3% is the minimum you need for them to not suspend your account.

SM models automatically get suspended if their paid chat time is less than 3%? Wow, I didn't know that. That would be embarrassing as hell.

Member: Hey, bb, where u been?
Model: I was suspended on here.
Member: Suspended? What for?
Model: Because I didn't do enough private shows.

Any trolls that model gets would have a FIELD DAY with this information, and would be all like "HAHA...that's why you ain't making money on here, BITCH!" SMH. :P

CarmenF
04-17-2013, 12:52 PM
So it's like Sm has a hidden camscore :)

SoloDesire
04-17-2013, 01:11 PM
So it's like Sm has a hidden camscore :)

Exactly! I've found myself worrying about my percentage in paid the same as I worried about my camscore on MFC!! I think there's much more that goes into placement other than just percentage though...because my percentage is never very high (usually around 11%-20%) and I'm still on the first page placement wise.

shysara79
04-17-2013, 01:15 PM
I will have days where my percentage in paid is 35 and I will have days like yesterday where it is 14 lol. You really just never know. I am usually on the first or second page as well. I am wondering though if by using the pause button I am messing up my percentage... I think so !

Snowy0Star
04-17-2013, 01:42 PM
^ that reminds me i got the break button now imma try it out when i go on sm in about 20 min :P

w00t for payday tomorrow (my first one since i went back on there full time)

cyberstripper
04-17-2013, 01:45 PM
Hello my streamateys
Just curious what you have your rates going at nowadays, for premium chat. I have noticed if I have it set too high, I only get about one viewer at a time, if set too low, I get more viewers but still end up getting the short end of the stick. What is a good in between rate? I currently have my premium chat set at $3.69/min...this attracts guys but very few members in at the same time and spending. I feel like when I set it to $2.99 and below, I get more guys coming in and out but they still don't stay too long. I want to find a happy medium, I know it will all be trial and error, but if i could get two or more guys coming in and staying for it to be worthwhile it would be great. AND OMG the guys that come in for their free 2 mins are killing me lately lol. Just curious at what u all have ur premium rates at

SoloDesire
04-17-2013, 02:06 PM
Set your price for what works for you...but I wouldn't set it for lower than $3.99 which has been suggested over and over on this forum. After experimenting with my prices I have them currently at $4.99 for private, $5.99 exclusive and that works for me. If I'm too expensive for them then they probably weren't planning on spending more than a few minutes with me in the first place...and let's face it, no one likes a minute man ;)

Cam_Model_Jess
04-17-2013, 02:18 PM
I will have days where my percentage in paid is 35 and I will have days like yesterday where it is 14 lol. You really just never know. I am usually on the first or second page as well. I am wondering though if by using the pause button I am messing up my percentage... I think so !

Yes, using the pause button affects your percentage.

SoloDesire
04-17-2013, 02:20 PM
Yes, using the pause button affects your percentage.

How so? Doesn't it just count towards your time in free chat...just the same as if you didn't pause?

temptingmodel
04-17-2013, 02:22 PM
using up bandwidth

it is just like being in paid ...

I wanted a break button an only use it seldom due to this. I just log off , it refreshes my room from sleepers as well.

shysara79
04-17-2013, 03:32 PM
using up bandwidth

it is just like being in paid ...

I wanted a break button an only use it seldom due to this. I just log off , it refreshes my room from sleepers as well.

Interesting. I thought maybe this was the case. I'm gonna have to stop using it all the time ... Which I do !

kortneykay
04-17-2013, 03:41 PM
I really don't think guys get drawn in by your rates. They might balk at them but I've noticed that if they really want to see you they don't really care. I consider myself to be one in a million. I'm a niche and though there are girls who are built like me, I have my own way of hustling and I don't look anyone else. They see you, they watch you, and if they like you or you make their dicks jump they want to see you naked or whatnot. From there, your personality and or body/shows trap them, or they move on to the next. Some guys fall for us rather quickly and become regs, others just really only want to spend a few bucks and jump around until they find a girl who puts them over the edge. They nut, and when it the mood do it all over again. Not all custys are like that, but some are. My husband has spent over $700 on SM (bbwcams.com) and he's never spent more than 3 minutes in a private and tipped in a shitload of goldshows. It really didn't matter what the girl's rate was. I also noticed that he messaged some girl as her gimmick was tip me gold and you get a free gift. She wrote his name on her tits. :/

PrincessLuna
04-17-2013, 04:39 PM
I do not pay attention to my percentage at all. I can have a 10% day and still have 100/hr The only thing that really affects my placement is the number of hours I'm on each day.

Snowy0Star
04-17-2013, 05:34 PM
Today I learned that you can have an irrational percentage of time in paid chat. I spent 106% of my time in paid for Thursday. Now, if I can just keep that up.... Not at all helpful, just interesting.

Still interesting tho do u know how u did that 0.0

Cam_Model_Jess
04-17-2013, 06:00 PM
Today I learned that you can have an irrational percentage of time in paid chat. I spent 106% of my time in paid for Thursday. Now, if I can just keep that up.... Not at all helpful, just interesting.

I'm just going to guess here. Did you do mostly gold shows without a countdown but then also have some guys jump into private between shows? The guys who aren't in pvt long enough to pay... their time in still counts. Otherwise, I'm at a loss.

PrincessLuna
04-17-2013, 06:07 PM
I'm just going to guess here. Did you do mostly gold shows without a countdown but then also have some guys jump into private between shows? The guys who aren't in pvt long enough to pay... their time in still counts. Otherwise, I'm at a loss.

You mean that 30 seconds? Those don't count though, I believe?

ABigNerd
04-17-2013, 06:08 PM
No, I was going to log off when it was "midnight" on SM, and then someone took me private. Another guy joined in while we were in the show and stuck around for a few minutes. I logged off immediately after we finished. I was just under the impression that multiple guys in prvt didn't figure into our time spent in paid chat. I found it interesting.

Cam_Model_Jess
04-17-2013, 06:12 PM
I was just under the impression that multiple guys in prvt didn't figure into our time spent in paid chat. I found it interesting.

Huh, then it must be a carry-over or conversion issue between SM "paid chat" time and SM's daily cutoff. But no, multiple customers shouldn't count. That's why there is a discrepancy between your "paid chat" time on your percentage paid and your "Customer's Chat Time" on your Earnings Summary... unless the discrepancy is another time-zone issue and I added wrong. I added this all up one week, and it seemed to be that multiple customers' paid time doesn't count toward your percentage. So... I guess I don't have an answer.


You mean that [xx] seconds? Those don't count.

Yes, weirdly enough, they seem to. At least, when I have watched my own percentage, they do.

PrincessLuna
04-17-2013, 06:14 PM
Yes, weirdly enough, they seem to. At least, when I have watched my own percentage, they do.

I don't see how they would count as no money is exchanged. While posting in this thread today I kept an eye on my percentage to see how it was and I had a couple of those guys didn't affect it at all.

temptingmodel
04-17-2013, 06:17 PM
Today I learned that you can have an irrational percentage of time in paid chat. I spent 106% of my time in paid for Thursday. Now, if I can just keep that up.... Not at all helpful, just interesting.
that happened to me b4 and the nnext day it was dropped back down to the 50's....

report back and let us know if it happened to you like it did me

Sunnylexie
04-17-2013, 06:21 PM
Is it just me or SM has been dead this week?

Snowy0Star
04-17-2013, 06:22 PM
Is it just me or SM has been dead this week?

no these past few days have been slower then in the beginning of last week

Marina Starr
04-17-2013, 06:22 PM
It's not just you! That's why I'm taking the rest of the week of.

Is it just me or SM has been dead this week?

temptingmodel
04-17-2013, 06:23 PM
NO BB! that is when the bank rolls come!

AliceFun
04-17-2013, 06:25 PM
SM is terribly slow for me this week. I want to work Party chat so guys can see each other text's in my room but then i get the fucking trolls coming to insult me cause i am a threat for them, they afraid i'll steal they gold show customers, bleah.
Why when i am in classic chat i dont get the trolls?! Venting here...

Marina Starr
04-17-2013, 06:27 PM
I did great last week so I'm happy with what I've made this week. I think I'll take off 'til May 1st :)

NO BB! that is when the bank rolls come!

Cam_Model_Jess
04-17-2013, 06:55 PM
I don't see how they would count as no money is exchanged. While posting in this thread today I kept an eye on my percentage to see how it was and I had a couple of those guys didn't affect it at all.

I agree it shouldn't affect it, though it seems to when I'm working. Perhaps it's just that it takes a while to update. I'll continue to watch mine.