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Angela888
03-27-2021, 02:28 AM
great..it was painfully slow ..then i came here remember is contest and i am not alone..last 4 hours made 45 dollars..

If you don’t work from the start of the contest it’s slow I find. I take the time off to chill and do other things on contests, unless I want to go for it, but it’s hardcore xx

sweetme
03-27-2021, 02:43 AM
If you don’t work from the start of the contest it’s slow I find. I take the time off to chill and do other things on contests, unless I want to go for it, but it’s hardcore xx
yes i know..thanks

random stripper
03-27-2021, 03:55 AM
This is what happens to my cameras every time they get too old.

Thanks, actually it got better once I plugged it in to a different spot on my PC. But I will keep this in mind!

wealthmagnet
03-27-2021, 04:23 AM
Hey ladies - Anyone else getting an absolute plethora of trolling today? :(

Yes. I enjoyed every last minute of it too. I'm one of the petty ones who say something cheeky before blocking them. Also, i wouldn't be surprised if they where models doing the trolling cause the majority of the things said didn't read at all like something a guy would type. In a way it felt like a group of mean girls going room to room trying to troll others to the point of tapping out (quiting the contest). In general the quality of traffic is terrible during these events. **hugs**

Luckygoldfish
03-27-2021, 04:29 AM
If you don’t work from the start of the contest it’s slow I find. I take the time off to chill and do other things on contests, unless I want to go for it, but it’s hardcore xx

How are you doing darling? Did u participate? I didn’t have time to check xx

TooNiceToHustle
03-27-2021, 07:05 AM
Yes. I enjoyed every last minute of it too. I'm one of the petty ones who say something cheeky before blocking them. Also, i wouldn't be surprised if they where models doing the trolling cause the majority of the things said didn't read at all like something a guy would type. In a way it felt like a group of mean girls going room to room trying to troll others to the point of tapping out (quiting the contest). In general the quality of traffic is terrible during these events. **hugs**
Yup. Every time someone mentions my acne or something like that, I'm "it must be soo slooow for that performer".

KittenGirl
03-27-2021, 07:41 AM
I didn't know that SM popped up the gold menu item randomly. I thought the clients could just pick from the menu. That's weird. I like the idea of the mandatory 5 minute thing. But the only time I ever really get those Minute Men is when I'm already in a private and they want to sneak in. But I have lower rates than most models, maybe that contributes to it a little.

I decided to play member for a night to do some research. I took an amazing model private because she was super cute and she seemed to be having a rough night. Tell you what, she was entertaining for sure and next thing I knew, 7 minutes and $46 went out the window faster than I thought. So I'm wondering if men feel like they have to hurry it up or they're gonna be broke. I kind of think of it like shopping. People will go from store to store and window browse. Working in retail before, I wouldn't ever get angry at customers coming in but not buying anything.
Or sometimes when we go out to eat we just want an "appetizer". If I were to be a restaurant owner, I'd be thankful for even the smallest business. But that's my personal opinion ��

***OR***
I read an awesome thread on this site about "stalling the time". And I've started doing that. It really works! I never have a show less than 5 minutes now.

Miss_ShaSha
03-27-2021, 07:56 AM
Regular 'customers' who really love to take up your time chatting incessantly... but ONLY tip if you ask them at least once (if not repeatedly) never ever tip on their own accord. Unless I try to ignore them for ages whilst they go on and on, anyway.

I seem to have accumulated a small handful of these types right now. Does anyone else find them a bit draining to deal with? I have no issue asking for tips, it's more so that they seem to only tip because they're "forced" to. Just wondering how some of you ladies deal with them?

My instinct says to block as I hate seeing them pop up. Half of me thinks it's manners for them to tip without being asked but the other half of me wonders if I'm being a little entitled?

After a few exchanges of hi, how are you, & asking for a show...i let members know I can chat in PVT or they can tip. I state if they neither do a show or tip they must leave.

It's done politely & assertively. They either do or leave. It gets easier with time to be assertive with these members.

MissAdriana
03-27-2021, 10:01 AM
Funny the things SM does without letting us know OR giving us the option to disable it?? So they just add to our chat whatever they want?
First, as a member I would find this annoying and I would assume as a member that the MODEL was doing it.


100% agree. But they did say they were running tests, maybe spamming the hell out of them actually gets them to tip more?
How annoying that SM never use their NEWS page until 2 weeks after the update has been live.

10 years ago it made sense to have the free/discounted whatever it is time in the beginning of the show for models and users, but not as much now. Not now that everything is going 4k and loading lightning fast with 5G and they have us on their phones wherever they want. The preview is what free chat is for. It really is time for them to remove that discount BS whatever completely IMHO.

SM is too obsessed with giving them discounts galore. The fan club discounts and free gold shows is already too much.

I hate that we have to resort to scummy business tactics of slowing down the show just to make enough $ to eat. I'd rather start the show when it starts just my 2 cents

ChristieX
03-27-2021, 10:41 AM
100% agree. But they did say they were running tests, maybe spamming the hell out of them actually gets them to tip more?
How annoying that SM never use their NEWS page until 2 weeks after the update has been live.

10 years ago it made sense to have the free/discounted whatever it is time in the beginning of the show for models and users, but not as much now. Not now that everything is going 4k and loading lightning fast with 5G and they have us on their phones wherever they want. The preview is what free chat is for. It really is time for them to remove that discount BS whatever completely IMHO.

SM is too obsessed with giving them discounts galore. The fan club discounts and free gold shows is already too much.

I hate that we have to resort to scummy business tactics of slowing down the show just to make enough $ to eat. I'd rather start the show when it starts just my 2 cents

Agree 100%. Telling them they get 40 seconds free just to get them over the line. Adultwork charges them from the second they get a connection. I make my money on there 1 cent at a time, but at least they are being charged to have a look at me.

anonamiss
03-27-2021, 10:41 AM
i have not heard any of my members mention the pop up tip thing and i'm guessing it's because i don't use the SM Gold Tip Menu feature at all. i just have a handful of things (spanks, boobs, etc) written out in my topic with prices, because i hate the way you can't customize the SM menu (and also, i thought i read somewhere that if a guy buys something off your tip menu, it doesn't activate your tip vibe, and they have to tip regular gold for the vibe? i could be wrong but if so, that's a no from me.) but if i'm understanding it based on what i've read here, are they basically taking random options from your "Tip Menu" and then having a single item pop up for guys at random times in free chat?

if so, ew, i would absolutely not want that. sounds really spammy and annoying if I were a custie, particularly if it happens at random. not every item on a tip menu appeals to everyone and it'd be weird to just take random options and make them pop up for random people. what a stupid idea.

i'd suggest if you're having this pop up thing happen and you don't want it, try disabling your gold menu and just use your topic or an auto-message in chat to mention what you do for tips.

Ambercat
03-27-2021, 12:02 PM
Has the notification sound changed for low level tips?

My toy is having an issue at the moment so it randomly buzzes and i just ignore it but a couple of times today someone has buzzed me 1G and i've just no heard the noise so haven't made an appropriately delighted noise about it.

gbjenna
03-27-2021, 12:32 PM
Thank you for the previous replies! I have a habit of setting boundaries and then doubting them, I feel like I don't find the right balance between being straight to the point but chatty enough! Or maybe I have already and I just overthink it!


You can set boundaries with them as you see fit. You can say today I don’t feel like talking so of you want me to chat with you then we can go exc. They usually become less the more established you get.

That's such a subtle and tactful way of putting it. I'll definitely use that when needs be. Thank you!

gbjenna
03-27-2021, 12:49 PM
Has the notification sound changed for low level tips?

My toy is having an issue at the moment so it randomly buzzes and i just ignore it but a couple of times today someone has buzzed me 1G and i've just no heard the noise so haven't made an appropriately delighted noise about it.

Yeah mine's working a bit intermittently too. Someone tipped me and it didn't react for 2mins, I faked it and someone took me for a show and it finally buzzed as I was speaking to someone on c2c. It totally stopped me in my tracks, I just stood there with my mouth open for a moment, then said sorry mind blank, and he just laughed! Probs thought I wasn't all there though lol

Ambercat
03-27-2021, 12:54 PM
That would have been priceless to see!

I randomly got hiccups in a show the other day. Luckily the guy thought it was adorable

moneybags
03-27-2021, 01:52 PM
How can I create a customer account, so I can see what things look like from the customer POV. I tried registering from a different WiFi. Why does my new customer account still get flagged

wealthmagnet
03-27-2021, 03:02 PM
How can I create a customer account, so I can see what things look like from the customer POV. I tried registering from a different WiFi. Why does my new customer account still get flagged

Usually if you call customer service and tell them you're a model they'll give you your custie account back

moneybags
03-27-2021, 03:56 PM
Usually if you call customer service and tell them you're a model they'll give you your custie account back

Thanks I was afraid if I called and asked they would ban me. Will do! Have a great night. Love Saturday nights fresh starts.

wealthmagnet
03-27-2021, 04:53 PM
Thanks I was afraid if I called and asked they would ban me. Will do! Have a great night. Love Saturday nights fresh starts.

They've usually always been really nice. I don't see why they'd have an issue. Cheers. Many blessings

anonamiss
03-28-2021, 04:00 AM
omfg. i know it's all algorithm based or whatever but literally the model in the FIRST SPOT on the front page for me (not logged on to a model or customer account) was just using a toy in free chat, pussy for everyone to see.

WTF >_<

Strawberryblonde
03-28-2021, 07:28 AM
Had a great 4 weeks before this week, quiet Sunday last weekend, then 5 days off due to other commitments including travelling. Did 5 hours streaming yesterday which I think is my longest yet, but didn't hit my minimum target for the day.

Today reasonably quiet does being off for a week affect traffic?

I do have low take days including on the bumper weeks, simply curiosity.

There's a guy going around proposing to send his phone number, claiming he can pretend he's my husband which will get the guys tipping in my room.

I've told him a few times in the past it's against the rules, plus of course it's only him after a freebie. Have not been able to report him yet, will do when he reappears. What's worse is he says he likes me, has missed me etc. Creepy.

Strawberryblonde
03-28-2021, 09:48 AM
Will music make any difference, or just another drain on WiFi? What can I use and will this be OK with the other platform (AW) as well as independent private arrangement?

moneybags
03-28-2021, 01:11 PM
Sm has their own library https://streamatemodels.com/smm/music.php

I do like music, but it can’t be the too much just something in the background. Guys don’t give AF.

Guys tend to take me to pvt and want me to do things in exclusive. I like having multiple price points, but it’s annoying the dont understand “you get what you pay for”. They start being demanding in pvt. Ah no... buddy. Anything other than vanilla shit has to be in Exc.

What do you tell guys the difference is between private and exclusive?

I’m trying to brand myself as a high end model. No more cheapskates. I offer great service!

Strawberryblonde
03-28-2021, 01:23 PM
Sm has their own library https://streamatemodels.com/smm/music.php

I do like music, but it can’t be the too much just something in the background. Guys don’t give AF.

Guys tend to take me to pvt and want me to do things in exclusive. I like having multiple price points, but it’s annoying the dont understand “you get what you pay for”. They start being demanding in pvt. Ah no... buddy. Anything other than vanilla shit has to be in Exc.

What do you tell guys the difference is between private and exclusive?

I’m trying to brand myself as a high end model. No more cheapskates. I offer great service!

I do the same in both Prem and Excl, I explain Prem others can come in and I have to pay attention to everyone, Excl it's only him and I alone no interruptions.

AuroraJade
03-28-2021, 01:27 PM
You can just play your own music during live streaming. The music library is for videos.

I sometimes play music and sometimes I dont. Whatever I feel like. It doesn't really make a difference unless you are into obscure music like death metal. But sometimes when I dont give a F I play that anyway, lol.

fetishqueen
03-28-2021, 02:36 PM
Is there not a copyright issue with playing music while on cam? I never have just in case.

Strawberryblonde
03-28-2021, 02:40 PM
Is there not a copyright issue with playing music while on cam? I never have just in case.

This is why I have not so far.

fetishqueen
03-28-2021, 02:45 PM
You can't use it for clips and all sites are very clear on that but is it different for cam, perhaps someone might know. To my mind the principle is the same yet I've seen so many cam models use well known songs in their rooms.

kamiliam
03-28-2021, 02:56 PM
I turn music off for shows unless it is requested to stay on in Exclusive. But I play my little playlist over and over again in free, never had an issue

moneybags
03-28-2021, 03:09 PM
I do the same in both Prem and Excl, I explain Prem others can come in and I have to pay attention to everyone, Excl it's only him and I alone no interruptions.

I wanna to offer a multiple price points, but they seems to just want more for less. I Even started a gold shows at 60 and didn’t get to it? They beg and beg for gold shows, but when I do them I never get my goal?

ive been doing research on SM. I’ll poke around and see if I can get a feel for what the baseline is. I need to up my rates. I’m too old to be doing this shit for peanuts. I gotta retire one day and want something to show for it.

I can’t stomach doing sex work for survival. We should be able to live a comfortable life at least.

Luckygoldfish
03-28-2021, 05:15 PM
You can't use it for clips and all sites are very clear on that but is it different for cam, perhaps someone might know. To my mind the principle is the same yet I've seen so many cam models use well known songs in their rooms.

Yes I know, you can listen whatever you like during stream :)

wealthmagnet
03-28-2021, 08:04 PM
I wanna to offer a multiple price points, but they seems to just want more for less. I Even started a gold shows at 60 and didn’t get to it? They beg and beg for gold shows, but when I do them I never get my goal?

ive been doing research on SM. I’ll poke around and see if I can get a feel for what the baseline is. I need to up my rates. I’m too old to be doing this shit for peanuts. I gotta retire one day and want something to show for it.

I can’t stomach doing sex work for survival. We should be able to live a comfortable life at least.


I believe there's a raise your rate challenge thread on the forum someplace. And i agree that all cammers should up their rate. It's fear that stops us from doing it. When someone complains about my rate being too high i explain that i am worth the investment. After leaving my chatroom in a huff the majority of them usually come back for a lengthy show. I'm fat according to society, I'm sassy from what i hear. But at the end of the day i like to live comfortably. For years i struggled because i under priced myself. Give yourself the peptalk of a lifetime and raise those rates. You are so worthy of all things that glitter such as diamonds and pearls.

Oh and wanted to add, with higher rates you may sit a little longer in between shows but it's sooo worth it. Plus i find the quality of show getters for the most part are better.

Strawberryblonde
03-28-2021, 11:21 PM
I believe there's a raise your rate challenge thread on the forum someplace. And i agree that all cammers should up their rate. It's fear that stops us from doing it. When someone complains about my rate being too high i explain that i am worth the investment. After leaving my chatroom in a huff the majority of them usually come back for a lengthy show. I'm fat according to society, I'm sassy from what i hear. But at the end of the day i like to live comfortably. For years i struggled because i under priced myself. Give yourself the peptalk of a lifetime and raise those rates. You are so worthy of all things that glitter such as diamonds and pearls.

Oh and wanted to add, with higher rates you may sit a little longer in between shows but it's sooo worth it. Plus i find the quality of show getters for the most part are better.

I smile and agree, since I increased above the default low rate I receive less 'you are expensive' comments and the gold show requesters also more or less disappeared. I explain I'm only available Prem or Excl.

wealthmagnet
03-29-2021, 03:38 PM
Do you ladies sit out april 15th or treat it like another cam/work day?

Dahlia Fallon
03-29-2021, 03:51 PM
What is happening on 15th April?

Esixxx
03-29-2021, 03:52 PM
What is happening on 15th April?

It's usually tax day here in the US but they extended the deadline to May I believe

DeliveryLadyx
03-29-2021, 03:53 PM
Anyone has their bitrate fluctuating and RTT jumping in the 500ms? no one stays connected, is nearly 2 hours like this and obviously, no traffic to convert. I put the ethernet in the socket directly and is the same.

Esixxx
03-29-2021, 03:55 PM
Anyone has their bitrate fluctuating and RTT jumping in the 500ms? no one stays connected, is nearly 2 hours like this and obviously, no traffic to convert. I put the ethernet in the socket directly and is the same.

Yes I have had it go off and on throughout my shift- not consistent and I have had custies not be able to cam to cam. My traffic has been slow as well.

DeliveryLadyx
03-29-2021, 03:57 PM
Yes, I get a lot of guys acting weird and wanting a show and bouncing straight away. Site is acting up for sure, I just hope it won't last too long or my night is going to be wasted and that is not nice. :)

KittenGirl
03-29-2021, 08:39 PM
I wanna to offer a multiple price points, but they seems to just want more for less. I Even started a gold shows at 60 and didn’t get to it? They beg and beg for gold shows, but when I do them I never get my goal?

ive been doing research on SM. I’ll poke around and see if I can get a feel for what the baseline is. I need to up my rates. I’m too old to be doing this shit for peanuts. I gotta retire one day and want something to show for it.

I can’t stomach doing sex work for survival. We should be able to live a comfortable life at least.


Not to be "that person" but that's why I'm building up my real estate job. It's got the same baseline as camming: you hustle your ass off, learn the business, market yourself, work your own hours, gain clients, make money.

I had a dream about making $5,000 a month on cam. Sure I can do it, but I don't want to. The girls that make that kind of cash are shoving baseball bats up their bums and working 10 hour days nonstop with social media hustle. I can't do this when I'm 50. Some women do, but men want physically demanding shows that one day I'm not gonna be able to keep up with and I don't care to. In real estate if you bust your ass at 40 hour weeks, your pay off can be a $5000-$12000 check, not a $1200 one. I just cam for now to pay bills and Realtor fees but after a few more transactions I'll be able to cam much less��

BUT, with that in mind, good for you in upping your rate. You are worth more than peanuts

KittenGirl
03-29-2021, 08:46 PM
I believe there's a raise your rate challenge thread on the forum someplace. And i agree that all cammers should up their rate. It's fear that stops us from doing it. When someone complains about my rate being too high i explain that i am worth the investment. After leaving my chatroom in a huff the majority of them usually come back for a lengthy show. I'm fat according to society, I'm sassy from what i hear. But at the end of the day i like to live comfortably. For years i struggled because i under priced myself. Give yourself the peptalk of a lifetime and raise those rates. You are so worthy of all things that glitter such as diamonds and pearls.

Oh and wanted to add, with higher rates you may sit a little longer in between shows but it's sooo worth it. Plus i find the quality of show getters for the most part are better.

I actually tried that. My hourly wage averaged at $18.57/hr. I lowered it again and it went to $45.65. I wish I could raise my rates but I had 4 people in at $2.89 and it way made up for it. I wish I could, but I make way more money charging less. I just don't put as much energy into them like I use to.

Edit: forgot to mention that this DOES make it draining to work for longer than two hours. But my traffic plummets at 2 hours anyway. So I just work split shifts. I usually can pull around $120-$160 with 3-4 hours of work

Edit edit: I think of you're going to play the big league, it's best to make sure you're an in demand hot top model. If you usually have over 20 people in your room and the engagement is high with regulars, DEFINITELY charge more! But until you get to that top row and you can't even take a 10 minute break without another guy snagging you, I feel it's best to start low and build. Just my method :)

xxxGothBarbie
03-29-2021, 08:59 PM
I actually tried that. My hourly wage averaged at $18.57/hr. I lowered it again and it went to $45.65. I wish I could raise my rates but I had 4 people in at $2.89 and it way made up for it. I wish I could, but I make way more money charging less. I just don't put as much energy into them like I use to.

Edit: forgot to mention that this DOES make it draining to work for longer than two hours. But my traffic plummets at 2 hours anyway. So I just work split shifts. I usually can pull around $120-$160 with 3-4 hours of work


^ this is me as well. I hate sitting in free chat so I charge what I know will get me in excl for most of my shifts. I would love to charge $10 a min but realisticly when I tried that I sat there ALL night with nothing so they went back down & my money went back up. I'm a basic bitch on cam LOL I don't put that much into it really. It's too exhausting.

wealthmagnet
03-29-2021, 09:44 PM
hardcore glitchy tonight and the lack of traffic is not helping either. cam to cam is not working either, going on week 2 of the nonsense. must keep going.

moneybags
03-29-2021, 09:50 PM
Not to be "that person" but that's why I'm building up my real estate job. It's got the same baseline as camming: you hustle your ass off, learn the business, market yourself, work your own hours, gain clients, make money.

I had a dream about making $5,000 a month on cam. Sure I can do it, but I don't want to. The girls that make that kind of cash are shoving baseball bats up their bums and working 10 hour days nonstop with social media hustle. I can't do this when I'm 50. Some women do, but men want physically demanding shows that one day I'm not gonna be able to keep up with and I don't care to. In real estate if you bust your ass at 40 hour weeks, your pay off can be a $5000-$12000 check, not a $1200 one. I just cam for now to pay bills and Realtor fees but after a few more transactions I'll be able to cam much less��

BUT, with that in mind, good for you in upping your rate. You are worth more than peanuts


I dont think you said anything wrong. I wish more models realized you can make just as much doing other work. It’s definitely a good side gig when you have another career. I would encourage models to think of the long term game. I would encourage anyone to have a way to have passive income! Everyone should have multiple streams of income.

Okay back on topic: I was being a bit dramatic. I definitely am making it my goal to increase my income. Nothing worse than being a broke hoe. I think rather than raising my rates I should be looking at building up my fan club and selling videos. Work on that passive income baby!

Luckygoldfish
03-30-2021, 01:11 AM
Not to be "that person" but that's why I'm building up my real estate job. It's got the same baseline as camming: you hustle your ass off, learn the business, market yourself, work your own hours, gain clients, make money.

I had a dream about making $5,000 a month on cam. Sure I can do it, but I don't want to. The girls that make that kind of cash are shoving baseball bats up their bums and working 10 hour days nonstop with social media hustle. I can't do this when I'm 50. Some women do, but men want physically demanding shows that one day I'm not gonna be able to keep up with and I don't care to. In real estate if you bust your ass at 40 hour weeks, your pay off can be a $5000-$12000 check, not a $1200 one. I just cam for now to pay bills and Realtor fees but after a few more transactions I'll be able to cam much less��

BUT, with that in mind, good for you in upping your rate. You are worth more than peanuts
Sorry no offence but that’s bunch of bullshit . Not everyone who is making 5000$ + shoving up the baseball bat up their asses just because u saw one doesn’t mean everyone do that lol (bare in mind they might actually do just good imitation)plenty of girls making way way more than that using their creativity personality and variety of different skills and some of them even hardly getting naked;)) like mistresses and fetish models . . If u bust ur ass 40 hours A WEEK on cam u can make 5000-10000$ A WEEK or even more ;) trust me I know what I am taking about and I don’t use any social media whatsoever. Of course you can do it when u are 50 , look at the bunch of top models MILF ;) you are just trying make urself feel better because you could not make what u wanted to make. However you bring lots of girls down with ur comment ;) It’s great that u found different path though and I wish you luck ;)
And the famous phrase “sure I can do it I just don’t want too” LOL yeah right ))

Luckygoldfish
03-30-2021, 02:23 AM
Talking about rates. I would raise if I see a high demand and being busy already but I would do it slowly like a dollar each six month or so. Based on my experience dramatic increase will scare them away for awhile. I wouldn’t ever go lower than 3.99 pvt 6.99$ Exc even for the new models .Also need to test it for like a week or two not a day it could be just a slow day. And find a way to charge extra! But that’s my personal opinion)

fetishqueen
03-30-2021, 02:52 AM
Rates are only part of the story. There are many ways to earn on SM other than shows, tips, tip vibes, Gold menu, videos, special offers etc. In my experience no matter what my rates have been I've still had a fair chunk of my daily earnings from Gold. I'm not a big earner like some but I do pay attention to what works for me and what doesn't.

I think placement plays a big part. Guys are fundamentally lazy, as we all are when it comes to searching. I mean how often do you scroll further than page one of Google, Amazon? We don't. We choose from what's presented to us. What I'm trying to say it that then it's irrelevant whether you are priced high or low if you are placed at the back. I don't really understand the placement on SM but I try to work on improving how I do and hopefully that will follow.

Agree with LG above about testing new rates, the 4 hrs it states on SM is nonsense, at least a week I think!

Luckygoldfish
03-30-2021, 03:02 AM
Rates are only part of the story. There are many ways to earn on SM other than shows, tips, tip vibes, Gold menu, videos, special offers etc. In my experience no matter what my rates have been I've still had a fair chunk of my daily earnings from Gold. I'm not a big earner like some but I do pay attention to what works for me and what doesn't.

I think placement plays a big part. Guys are fundamentally lazy, as we all are when it comes to searching. I mean how often do you scroll further than page one of Google, Amazon? We don't. We choose from what's presented to us. What I'm trying to say it that then it's irrelevant whether you are priced high or low if you are placed at the back. I don't really understand the placement on SM but I try to work on improving how I do and hopefully that will follow.

Agree with LG above about testing new rates, the 4 hrs it states on SM is nonsense, at least a week I think!
U are absolutely right. If u look at rate analysis first for me comes as GOLD, next one is Excl then gold shows and only very small about comes from premium. I keep premium fairly low compare to excl just state that it’s only vanilla unless extra golds are tipped. Most guys still prefer excl. the placement based on $/an hour + number of hours matters. Based nf that sm gives u a waves of traffic and then it’s up to u how much $ u can squeeze out of that traffic. The more u squeeze the more traffic the better placement u get eventually! It’s 100+ hours for the best possible traffic depending on ur placement.
I used to be third page now I am top raw x so it’s possible for everyone
Keep working xx

Luckygoldfish
03-30-2021, 03:18 AM
Forgot to mention . Once I made 160+ hours a month (obviously my $ /an hour was still good) and then the trafic was just flowing it was no longer waves just constant traffic lol
And one time I was lazy and started to work only contests and eventually traffic got so so bad ( in and out , in and out) and I struggled to get it back I stated to make way way less even though my placement only dropped couple rows. It took 4 months to get it back to waves! I don’t do that mistake anymore. Yes u still can take breaks just make sure after that u can stream consistently and efficiently c

Strawberryblonde
03-30-2021, 04:25 AM
Forgot to mention . Once I made 160+ hours a month (obviously my $ /an hour was still good) and then the trafic was just flowing it was no longer waves just constant traffic lol
And one time I was lazy and started to work only contests and eventually traffic got so so bad ( in and out , in and out) and I struggled to get it back I stated to make way way less even though my placement only dropped couple rows. It took 4 months to get it back to waves! I don’t do that mistake anymore. Yes u still can take breaks just make sure after that u can stream consistently and efficiently c

So my 5 days off did drop my placement?

I made sure I put in a long stream first day back, moderate 2nd, 3rd could only get on briefly partly due to AW and privates. Aiming for long stream today.