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Cutie101
04-16-2021, 02:25 PM
What bothers me, is that they are comparing a country with 300 million people and 50 states, with countries who have like 20-30 mil people.
Yes, ok, you set your country as US, but it doesn't show the state, which vary, from California to Florida. While, in the rest of the world, things are different and very on spot, which makes it more dangerous for the models.

I'm out from SM, for good. I left Jasmin, left Imlive... Ifriends left me, lol. Time to give a big middle finger to SM. They can suck a dick with their shit comission and shit policies. They were already discriminating me, with the 30% rate.

AuroraJade
04-16-2021, 02:34 PM
Yeaaaah. If you are from the US and you say you live in Florida but you live in LA, its okay, but when another model says she lives in Belgium,while she is from Romania, its false advertising? The distance is smaller. LOL.

I know a lot of US models usually just say ' west/east coast' 'south' or something like that. And those areas are about as big as the whole of the European Union.

KittenGirl
04-16-2021, 02:36 PM
What bothers me, is that they are comparing a country with 300 million people and 50 states, with countries who have like 20-30 mil people.
Yes, ok, you set your country as US, but it doesn't show the state, which vary, from California to Florida. While, in the rest of the world, things are different and very on spot, which makes it more dangerous for the models.


You go girl! That's a great attitude. This whole thread inspired me to start investing more time into my own business endeavor. This was a terrible move on SMs part. And considering how many times we've voiced our frustrations that constantly go ignored it shows how truly little they care about us.
I'm out from SM, for good. I left Jasmin, left Imlive... Ifriends left me, lol. Time to give a big middle finger to SM. They can suck a dick with their shit comission and shit policies. They were already discriminating me, with the 30% rate.

You go girl. That's the great attitude to have! Honestly this entire thread has only inspired me to ignite my independent work more. Considering how often we write them, and how much we get ignored, they clearly don't care about us.

KatM
04-16-2021, 03:06 PM
Cant help myself for asking this here: what petition u talking about guys, what will u ask for, the extra 5% they never give to us for years no matter how much we complained or 'i wanna be able to pick my favorite location and lie to your customers like til now'?!?! Seriously now....
I am in the same boat with all of u, u dont wanna know how my last days on cam have been but i try to stay real, they wont change things in our favor, not these specific things i mentioned above.

ETA: just seen this email from support, exactly as i said, they speak about 'member dissatisfaction' first of all and how they want to 'restore it'.

"Last week we made a security update that prevents performers from changing their listed location by altering their IP address. We would like to remind our performers that if you wish to hide the country you are from, we have provided the "Display Country" option that lets you choose which country viewers see as your location. The country options that are available are carefully selected to match your current country's region, language, or culture in some way. This allows you the privacy of hiding your current location with a believable fantasy for your viewers. To use this option, find the "My Profile" section of your account dashboard and click the "Edit Display Country" link.

Previously, your IP address was used to find your current location and to generate appropriate Display Country options. However, since IP addresses can be manipulated this presented a security issue. We also noticed growing member dissatisfaction in cases where members could tell a model was not from the listed location. To restore member trust and to fix the security issue, we decided a change was needed. Going forward, your location and your available Display Country options will be based on the country listed on your most recently submitted photo ID, and not on your IP address. Since this change was made, we have already seen a return to previous member activity levels and are receiving fewer reports of member dissatisfaction.

If you have been altering your IP address to access different locations, you will no longer be able to do so. We encourage you to use the available Display Country options if you want to change your listed location.

If the country listed on your account is no longer accurate, you will need to obtain a new photo ID with your updated location, then contact support and they will help you update your profile.

Streamate Models Support"

Lolaki
04-16-2021, 03:13 PM
[QUOTE=MsJess;3222426] I don't really think a petition would work, cause I'm really starting to think that they are doing this for legal reasons so I'm trying to promote my cammodel link more bla bla

If they are doing it for legal reasons, why they didnt communicate us the truth? Think they are shy, or what? :D

AuroraJade
04-16-2021, 03:17 PM
Its that models want to protect their location. When you come from a small country its better to use another display loc.

Lying to customers? Excuse me? Cam customers who value your real location are not cam customers, they are looking for an escort. We are on the internet. Its not like we owe them personal information?

Good guys who are a fan of cam shows and pay serious money for them know they are not entitled to personal info and they also know we lie sometimes to protect our privacy.

And again, they are going by ID now. So their argument of 'member dissatisfaction' does not hold up. You can be from any country from the world, live there and be raised there but as long as you have a US/UK/other passport you will be listed as USA? Even if you are on the other side of the world? These members really care that much about where your parents were born......?

It doesn't make any sense, at all.

MsJess
04-16-2021, 03:29 PM
[QUOTE=MsJess;3222426] I don't really think a petition would work, cause I'm really starting to think that they are doing this for legal reasons so I'm trying to promote my cammodel link more bla bla

If they are doing it for legal reasons, why they didnt communicate us the truth? Think they are shy, or what? :D

I know lol they might be shy, ugh, but hey what a coincidence!!!! they are not shy anymore!!!

SM message:

Last week we made a security update that prevents performers from changing their listed location by altering their IP address. We would like to remind our performers that if you wish to hide the country you are from, we have provided the "Display Country" option that lets you choose which country viewers see as your location. The country options that are available are carefully selected to match your current country's region, language, or culture in some way. This allows you the privacy of hiding your current location with a believable fantasy for your viewers. To use this option, find the "My Profile" section of your account dashboard and click the "Edit Display Country" link.

Previously, your IP address was used to find your current location and to generate appropriate Display Country options. However, since IP addresses can be manipulated this presented a security issue. We also noticed growing member dissatisfaction in cases where members could tell a model was not from the listed location. To restore member trust and to fix the security issue, we decided a change was needed. Going forward, your location and your available Display Country options will be based on the country listed on your most recently submitted photo ID, and not on your IP address. Since this change was made, we have already seen a return to previous member activity levels and are receiving fewer reports of member dissatisfaction.

If you have been altering your IP address to access different locations, you will no longer be able to do so. We encourage you to use the available Display Country options if you want to change your listed location.

If the country listed on your account is no longer accurate, you will need to obtain a new photo ID with your updated location, then contact support and they will help you update your profile.

Streamate Models Support

kamiliam
04-16-2021, 03:29 PM
[QUOTE=MsJess;3222426] I don't really think a petition would work, cause I'm really starting to think that they are doing this for legal reasons so I'm trying to promote my cammodel link more bla bla

If they are doing it for legal reasons, why they didnt communicate us the truth? Think they are shy, or what? :D

Because we are not their employees and it would be a poor legal decision to tell us anything about their legal matters. This isn’t meant to be snarky, I just think we need to remember their actual obligations to us, and us to them. Doesn’t mean we can’t have opinions on the end result. Their lawyers or advisors seem to be very proactive, which is a reasonable business choice. They are well aware most of us work on other sites and independently.

Luckygoldfish
04-16-2021, 03:34 PM
Its that models want to protect their location. When you come from a small country its better to use another display loc.

Lying to customers? Excuse me? Cam customers who value your real location are not cam customers, they are looking for an escort. We are on the internet. Its not like we owe them personal information?

Good guys who are a fan of cam shows and pay serious money for them know they are not entitled to personal info and they also know we lie sometimes to protect our privacy.

And again, they are going by ID now. So their argument of 'member dissatisfaction' does not hold up. You can be from any country from the world, live there and be raised there but as long as you have a US/UK/other passport you will be listed as USA? Even if you are on the other side of the world? These members really care that much about where your parents were born......?

It doesn't make any sense, at all.
Then ask them to hide your location completely that’s the only chance you guys stand. Like when instead of country it will be “ask me” like other sites do. Plus you do have different countries in your list , let’s be honest everyone is after traffic like all of us lol
They won’t let ALL models choose location it’s absurd , imagine if everyone can do that then everyone will choose US/UK it will be chaos and won’t help traffic either as nearly EVERYONE has USA/UK . They won’t let u use vpn selectively as it’s not fair to other models who doesn’t know about vpn feature SM won’t do that.
Let’s be realistic you want it to be like it was before that won’t happens besides you it’s thousands of models who didn’t use vpn feature if they were aware u wouldn’t have any priorities( on your opinion. as I still believe there is still great possibility to make $ with any location)
PS: when I say you I don’t a actually mean you personally lol I generalised for those in panic

Lolaki
04-16-2021, 03:39 PM
Then ask them to hide your location completely that’s the only chance you guys stand. Like when instead of country it will be “ask me” like other sites do.
They won’t let ALL models choose location it’s absurd , imagine if everyone can do that then everyone will choose US/UK it will be chaos and won’t help traffic either . They won’t let u use vpn selectively as it’s not fair to other models who doesn’t know what these feature SM won’t do that.
Let’s be realistic you want it to be like it was before that won’t happens besides you it’s thousands of models who didn’t use vpn feature if they were aware u wouldn’t have any priorities( on your opinion. as I still believe there is still great possibility to make $ with any location)

Not completely true, because not everyone want/get used to work like that. As someone mentioned above, not everyone want to work like that cause give them stress.
Also, although it would have been fair and nice, how is it possible to ask them to hide our location when they don't have that option so far? It is as impossible as to ask them to give us back our prior displaying countries (as you said)

AcidYellow
04-16-2021, 03:40 PM
Atleast in this email I could see some bright light for some of the performers who have been living abroad for years and now can send a new ID photo to update their current location. Some of them were worried cuz their country changed suddenly based in their first ID photo so yeah, now seems like they can. Fair for them. But still Im sad for the other part of us but yeah.... lets see they fix all this and bring the traffic back cuz this dead room is killing me. 2 hr sat in 0 ugggg

Luckygoldfish
04-16-2021, 03:59 PM
Not completely true, because not everyone want/get used to work like that. As someone mentioned above, not everyone want to work like that cause give them stress

So what would u like to ask to SM? USA traffic with big whales? Well lol like all other thousands and thousands of models inc those with tech features behind (like 5 pages of them) and so on
The reality is we get it sometimes in a proportion how much we make for the site over the years and such . Even if u believe your traffic was only better because of USA location it’s only because many thousands of models did t know the trick . There are not that many models from USA actually and it doesn’t mean they get all the traffic now lol again check contest , see who is making $ different countries

Luckygoldfish
04-16-2021, 04:06 PM
The only equal thing would be if nobody has any country display at all. I am cool with that I don’t care I will make $$$$ listed as potatoland I believe in myself ;) show me where to sign )

CamModel95
04-16-2021, 04:10 PM
The man who nearly killed me and my girlfriend found and met her through a camsite.

54712


Sorry, but seems like speculation. I guess real reason of "danger" is "Priority placement" All european models just was drop down from USA top listing in main page. The one and real reason for hysteria! It's not the security arrangements that are at fault here. So lets stop this grave discrimination.

Lolaki
04-16-2021, 04:15 PM
So what would u like to ask to SM? USA traffic with big whales? Well lol like all other thousands and thousands of models inc those with tech features behind (like 5 pages of them) and so on
The reality is we get it sometimes in a proportion how much we make for the site over the years and such . Even if u believe your traffic was only better because of USA location it’s only because many thousands of models did t know the trick . There are not that many models from USA actually and it doesn’t mean they get all the traffic now lol again check contest , see who is making $ different countries

Visitors that when they join my room speak english to me, because this is the only foreign language I speak beyond my mother tongue. When I tried to switch from the list they gave me, I only had customers who talked to me in languages I don't understant. I don't mind if they are from FR,NZ,US, UK, AUS, CA,ZA,CO,RO and so on. That's what I want. I just can't deal with the fact that the vast majority of the visitors I had in my room since they gave me a limited list of countries to chose from, where only talking to me in Italian in my case and when I kindly asked the to speak english, they were leaving.
I would have been ok if for example my second language was Spanish, French or German and my visitors where from countries whom I speak their language, as I would never display my real location. I come from a small country and even more from a very small community and I would have never take that risk
However how is it bad for a model to want whales, no matter where they come from?
You for example, don't you want them? If they come in your room you tell them to get away? :P

Edit to add: I ve just noticed your previous post and I am qurious, if you as well, asked for US traffic and whales, when other models don't have that privillege, back in January... So wondering, you laughed at me because you suddenly changed your mind and you think its unfair to others, or because your problem has been solved with ur new UK ID or by any other way and now you are trying to turn one model against another, when the problem is the same for all of us who are affected by that new thing?
Just saying...

54724

Luckygoldfish
04-16-2021, 04:15 PM
Sorry, but seems like speculation. I guess real reason of "danger" is "Priority placement" All european models just was drop down from USA top listing in main page. The one and real reason for hysterica! It's not the security arrangements that are at fault here. So lets stop this grave discrimination.
Exactly. There are options . Far and close from true location. Everyone is after traffic. I am
European model btw so u know I get mostly European traffic and sometimes Americans who often can’t see or hear :D however I am
Sorry for being very straightforward but bunch of bullshit is somewhat annoying lol

Luckygoldfish
04-16-2021, 04:18 PM
Visitors that when they join my room speak english to me, because this is the only foreign language I speak beyond my mother tongue. When I tried to switch from the list they gave me, I only had customers who talked to me in languages I don't understant.
That's what I want
Ok where are you from if I may ask? And what countries do u have in your list?

Lolaki
04-16-2021, 04:23 PM
Ok where are you from if I may ask? And what countries do u have in your list?

No you can't ask as I don't share my personal information in public. As for the countries that I have on my list, none of them speak the same language as in my country, actually no other country in the world speak the same language and I don't have any english speaking country on the list, for that reason, my choises are very limited..

Luckygoldfish
04-16-2021, 04:27 PM
No you can't ask as I don't share my personal information in public. As for the countries that I have on my list, none of them speak the same language as in my country, actually no other country in the world speak the same language, for that reason, my choises are very limited..
Ah sorry I was just trying to help
Tough shit then
Good luck ;)
I actually just got that other part of the message which made it clear but whatever ;)
PS: everyone wants whale lol it’s not bad it’s just there are no whales for everyone lol make them wanna spend it’s up to you

Lolaki
04-16-2021, 04:28 PM
Ah sorry I was just trying to help
Tough shit then
Good luck ;)

Thank, you
You too ;D

PS: everyone wants whale lol it’s not bad it’s just there are no whales for everyone lol make them wanna spend it’s up to you
Answer: That's what I said as well, right? :)

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-16-2021, 05:48 PM
Ladies I'm getting reports on the current topic of placement. Please be more respectful when responding to one another. Remember not everyone will be okay with agressive language and it may come off as being dismissive. I believe that most of you mean well but going forward please be more mindful.

JessRyan
04-16-2021, 06:31 PM
Here it is

There is no ban feature on the new feature but you can use it to open up their user profile to get their userid (uid) and use that to ban them.

Just open up their user profile and copy this number as seen in my screenshot:

52423

then use this string:

https://www.streamatemodels.com/flash/blockmember.php?uid=17194681

and change the end where it says uid=(number) to the number in the user profile as shown in my screenshot. You can ban them from messaging, and go back into your blocked list, and click to 'block from chat' then save.

Sure its a few hoops, but you can definitely use it to ban the trolls or idiots that come by and say stuff then dip right away cause you have access to their UID now after they leave.

Hope that makes sense!

Luci Fer
04-16-2021, 07:24 PM
The man who nearly killed me and my girlfriend found and met her through a camsite.

54712

Wait, if they had dual citizenship, they just needed to send their american ID to the site, just like Luckygoldfish did, and change their display country to USA.

Luckygoldfish
04-16-2021, 10:45 PM
Wait, if they had dual citizenship, they just needed to send their american ID to the site, just like Luckygoldfish did, and change their display country to USA.
Yes
if they have ID of another country they can send it to them and they can change it for the country in ID
It is Said on SM email as well


If the country listed on your account is no longer accurate, you will need to obtain a new photo ID with your updated location, then contact support and they will help you update your profile.

Streamate Models Support"

That’s why I think their post is weird especially about murder attempt

bigbum
04-17-2021, 06:18 AM
Ah sorry I was just trying to help
Tough shit then
Good luck ;)
I actually just got that other part of the message which made it clear but whatever ;)
PS: everyone wants whale lol it’s not bad it’s just there are no whales for everyone lol make them wanna spend it’s up to you

thats really nice of you to take time out of your day to help someone else on here. xoox

bigbum
04-17-2021, 06:25 AM
So what would u like to ask to SM? USA traffic with big whales? Well lol like all other thousands and thousands of models inc those with tech features behind (like 5 pages of them) and so on
The reality is we get it sometimes in a proportion how much we make for the site over the years and such . Even if u believe your traffic was only better because of USA location it’s only because many thousands of models did t know the trick . There are not that many models from USA actually and it doesn’t mean they get all the traffic now lol again check contest , see who is making $ different countries

honestly i think it was mainly studios many romanian studios were using usa, and italy flags. and many colombian studios are all using spain flags.
it was filling entire pages with spain flags but not a single person on there was spanish.
it was kinda hacking the system. due to the studios.

we get 3 country options, that should be enough.
i cam somewhere where i dont speak the language, so i just used my passport to verify.
the contests just like luckygoldfish says, there is a wide range of winners from all around the world.
i think SM is a wonderful international platform.
i understand some people think traffic is better, but a lot of guys for example love colombian girls and love Romanians so It could be an advantage to use a closer flag,or your own flag if it is safe for you.

LeilaB
04-17-2021, 06:43 AM
Regarding the displayed country issue, I just want to add my opinion, that even though I have a central european country as displayed, I have mostly american/uk guys in my room. There is still a chance of catching a whale, I think in this case the quality of performance is more important than the country flag, so in this point I agree with Luckygoldfish.

Of course the chance of meeting demanding and rude guys who think "a girl from this country must be cheap" is higher, but for this case we have the block button. :D

Still, I agree that it's not an easy situation for someone who has had an american camming persona for years.

Maybe in this case the best solution would be not to have country flags at all, and we could say "Im from your dreams/ I live in your heart etc.":D like on CB.

Lolaki
04-17-2021, 06:57 AM
honestly i think it was mainly studios many romanian studios were using usa, and italy flags. and many colombian studios are all using spain flags.
it was filling entire pages with spain flags but not a single person on there was spanish.
it was kinda hacking the system. due to the studios.

we get 3 country options, that should be enough.
i cam somewhere where i dont speak the language, so i just used my passport to verify.
the contests just like luckygoldfish says, there is a wide range of winners from all around the world.
i think SM is a wonderful international platform.
i understand some people think traffic is better, but a lot of guys for example love colombian girls and love Romanians so It could be an advantage to use a closer flag,or your own flag if it is safe for you.

I have already answered that on my previous post

54732


However if Goldfish and yourself believe it's not important, why she did her battle fight for the same reason?

54733

and why you mrs Goldfish applied your american passport to verify and you didn't set the country you are camming from if you were able to deal in the language of your country? Maybe because you experienced the same problem as me I suppose...

And as LeilaB wrote: Still, I agree that it's not an easy situation for someone who has had an american camming persona for years <<<--- This as well...

I agree with what LuckyGoldfish said before, that the only equal thing would be if nobody has any country display at all, but this has never been offered as an option...

Let's be honest among us ladies and those of you who have already english speaking visitors in your rooms, do not try to insult those of us who have problem. We are supposed to be here to SUPPORT each other and act with EMPATHY to each other, not to laugh at someone's face when we are not dealing with the same problem as him... right?

Luckygoldfish
04-17-2021, 07:21 AM
Visitors that when they join my room speak english to me, because this is the only foreign language I speak beyond my mother tongue. When I tried to switch from the list they gave me, I only had customers who talked to me in languages I don't understant. I don't mind if they are from FR,NZ,US, UK, AUS, CA,ZA,CO,RO and so on. That's what I want. I just can't deal with the fact that the vast majority of the visitors I had in my room since they gave me a limited list of countries to chose from, where only talking to me in Italian in my case and when I kindly asked the to speak english, they were leaving.
I would have been ok if for example my second language was Spanish, French or German and my visitors where from countries whom I speak their language, as I would never display my real location. I come from a small country and even more from a very small community and I would have never take that risk
However how is it bad for a model to want whales, no matter where they come from?
You for example, don't you want them? If they come in your room you tell them to get away? :P

Edit to add: I ve just noticed your previous post and I am qurious, if you as well, asked for US traffic and whales, when other models don't have that privillege, back in January... So wondering, you laughed at me because you suddenly changed your mind and you think its unfair to others, or because your problem has been solved with ur new UK ID or by any other way and now you are trying to turn one model against another, when the problem is the same for all of us who are affected by that new thing?
Just saying...

54724
Gosh it’s a new day and you still keep going lol
Curiosity killed the cat ;)
When I asked you about counties in your list you said “no you can’t ask blah blah as it’s private information lol”
But ok if u must know I had different situation as I am actually living in GB permanently, but I open up new account under my Russian docs cause u thought it won’t matter as it based on IP location anyway. Previously on my old account I used vpn with USA for around 3 weeks only , I never said I did not do the trick . So my display country was RU (I panicked like all of you do now) which remained with me for few weeks as general support kept ignoring my question about loading my British docs in. At last they did load it in. guess what I was over it anyway as I was still banking being Russian as I was by being located in States/GB but obviously took the opportunity to get rid of Russian hackers and Russian text in my chat. I asked them if I can have USA location I knew that would say no lol why would they say yes? Top model or no top models rules are the same for all.

I am not trying to turn anyone against anyone.
I would still probably prefer States because it fits well with my online character and a story))
I am allowed opinion and I am saying it ;) you post something here be ready not everyone will agree
Instead of looking for “enemies” here maybe better concentrate on getting your position higher than it wouldn’t matter at all where are you from

bigbum
04-17-2021, 07:21 AM
I have already answered that on my previous post

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However if Goldfish and yourself believe it's not important, why she did her battle fight for the same reason?

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and why you applied your american passport to verify and you didn't set the country you are camming from if you were able to deal in the language of your country?

And as LeilaB wrote: Still, I agree that it's not an easy situation for someone who has had an american camming persona for years <<<--- This as well...

I agree with what LuckyGoldfish said before, that the only equal thing would be if nobody has any country display at all, but this has never been offered as an option...

Let's be honest among us ladies and those of you who have already english speaking visitors in your rooms, do not try to insult those of us who have problem. We are supposed to be here to support each other and act with empathy to each other, not to laugh at someone's face when we are not dealing with the same problem as him... right?

you seem very angry. perhaps you should find another site to work on instead of SM . seems to be really upsetting you.

Lolaki
04-17-2021, 07:25 AM
you seem very angry. perhaps you should find another site to work on instead of SM . seems to be really upsetting you.

Thank you for your advice. It is really nice of you to take time out of your day to help someone else on here. xoox

seicento
04-17-2021, 07:26 AM
honestly i think it was mainly studios many romanian studios were using usa, and italy flags. and many colombian studios are all using spain flags.
it was filling entire pages with spain flags but not a single person on there was spanish.
it was kinda hacking the system. due to the studios.

we get 3 country options, that should be enough.
i cam somewhere where i dont speak the language, so i just used my passport to verify.
the contests just like luckygoldfish says, there is a wide range of winners from all around the world.
i think SM is a wonderful international platform.
i understand some people think traffic is better, but a lot of guys for example love colombian girls and love Romanians so It could be an advantage to use a closer flag,or your own flag if it is safe for you.

Actually we get 9 country options, you only have 3?

As for romanian studios using US, that's not true for a while now. In the past, yes, that was an option and they were using it, but not in the last 3 years or so. I know which girls are from studios here and nope, studios were not using US recently so the change that was made now doesn't have to do with romanians. There were a few independent RO models using US, more were using UK, but again, SM was not flooded with romanians using US, recently.

Italy was an option for romanians to use, allowed by SM. It was removed few months ago, Spain is still an option for RO to use, it's not hacking the system if we use ES. So probably same for Colombians, if they get ES as an option, they use it.

Luckygoldfish
04-17-2021, 07:37 AM
I have already answered that on my previous post

54732


However if Goldfish and yourself believe it's not important, why she did her battle fight for the same reason?

54733

and why you applied your american passport to verify and you didn't set the country you are camming from if you were able to deal in the language of your country? Maybe because you experienced the same problem as me I suppose...

And as LeilaB wrote: Still, I agree that it's not an easy situation for someone who has had an american camming persona for years <<<--- This as well...

I agree with what LuckyGoldfish said before, that the only equal thing would be if nobody has any country display at all, but this has never been offered as an option...

Let's be honest among us ladies and those of you who have already english speaking visitors in your rooms, do not try to insult those of us who have problem. We are supposed to be here to SUPPORT each other and act with EMPATHY to each other, not to laugh at someone's face when we are not dealing with the same problem as him... right?
What American passport lol you lost me I got none )
No I didn’t experience the same problem as you I still had plenty of people from all over the word. Your situation iis somewhat shady but I am not going into that as I don’t play that low lol
Adios )
No one insulted you
You want to be insulted and you are taking your frustration on me like I am myself switch your countries
That’s it
Can’t do the trick anymore , work with it or elsewhere
As simple as it is

Lolaki
04-17-2021, 07:43 AM
What American passport lol you lost me I got none )
No I didn’t experience the same problem as you I still had plenty of people from all over the word. Your situation iis somewhat shady but I am not going into that as I don’t play that low lol
Adios )
No one insulted you
You want to be insulted and you are taking your frustration on me like I am myself switch your countries
That’s it
Can’t do the trick anymore , work with it or elsewhere
As simple as it is

I am really happy that you have visitors from all over the world and I am not kidding you. I had different experience tho when they changed my display country. That is the only thing that get me upset and I will try to find a solution to that. You can check my attachment if you wish

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However thank you once again for trying to help me earlier and I hope you understand that I didn't want to share my country in public

Luckygoldfish
04-17-2021, 07:51 AM
honestly i think it was mainly studios many romanian studios were using usa, and italy flags. and many colombian studios are all using spain flags.
it was filling entire pages with spain flags but not a single person on there was spanish.
it was kinda hacking the system. due to the studios.

we get 3 country options, that should be enough.
i cam somewhere where i dont speak the language, so i just used my passport to verify.
the contests just like luckygoldfish says, there is a wide range of winners from all around the world.
i think SM is a wonderful international platform.
i understand some people think traffic is better, but a lot of guys for example love colombian girls and love Romanians so It could be an advantage to use a closer flag,or your own flag if it is safe for you.

Hi) thanks for the support x
Actually I have 5 counties.
You are right about everything apart from Romanian girls can choose Italy and Columbian can choose Spain which make sense. Both nations are doing pretty well on SM front page is full of them (especially now when vpn failed) despite of the amount of free loading traffic coming from Spanish speaking counties . So proves it not only USA/GB girls can bank lol

Luckygoldfish
04-17-2021, 07:53 AM
I am really happy that you have visitors from all over the world and I am not kidding you. I had different experience tho when they changed my display country. That is the only thing that get me upset and I will try to find a solution to that. However thank you once again for trying to help me earlier and I hope you understand that I didn't want to share my country in public

That’s fine no problem
To be honest I figured it out anyway lol
Didn’t have to be a Sherlock for that )

AcidYellow
04-17-2021, 07:56 AM
A part from the message SM sent to us yesterday mentioned something about matching a cultural thing. Well, Some performers from CO/RO, has Spain as an option but Spain is far from South.A and culture can vary and still is there. One thing matching is Language but still u can see clearly thay they arent from Spain cuz decorations, the accent is different dialect et etc so still is not 100% accurate. I set Spain as option to try but only got freeloaders speaking here and there so I attracted these type of guys and some europeans but not much spending. Went back to Panama( Im from there) but Idk... Now Im grateful I opened indy sites and some customers found me there cuz of the same nick so much more percentage. Last night I was sat in 0 on SM but in 2 shows of 5 mnts made 50$ in my indy nets, is not a lot but is better than nothing. And this bitrate issues that are killing my stream. Funny part I love performance in general and atleast I tried to speak as a spanish girl hehe was fun but yeah. Welcome back to the reality.

LeilaB
04-17-2021, 08:00 AM
Caution ladies, "BillyHoney" is going from room to room and wants an "honest opinion about his cock in pvt".

Maybe he is one of the members who make compilation videos of these pvts.

Lolaki
04-17-2021, 08:03 AM
Actually we get 9 country options, you only have 3?

As for romanian studios using US, that's not true for a while now. In the past, yes, that was an option and they were using it, but not in the last 3 years or so. I know which girls are from studios here and nope, studios were not using US recently so the change that was made now doesn't have to do with romanians. There were a few independent RO models using US, more were using UK, but again, SM was not flooded with romanians using US, recently.

Italy was an option for romanians to use, allowed by SM. It was removed few months ago, Spain is still an option for RO to use, it's not hacking the system if we use ES. So probably same for Colombians, if they get ES as an option, they use it.

I have only six country options :/

Luckygoldfish
04-17-2021, 08:55 AM
I am really happy that you have visitors from all over the world and I am not kidding you. I had different experience tho when they changed my display country. That is the only thing that get me upset and I will try to find a solution to that. You can check my attachment if you wish

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However thank you once again for trying to help me earlier and I hope you understand that I didn't want to share my country in public
PS: there are no customers from my country at all as
1)SM won’t allow them to join (thanks god)
2)porn resources are somewhat banned there u can’t actually load the site like stream or pornhub
There are only hackers from my native country with their scam schemes which hella annoying , they are always searching and fishing for fresh meat (Russian speaking ) and they could be somewhat dangerous (for our privacy)
I can’t even play Russian song during the stream because as soon as I do they are there straight away ;)
Unfortunately they are very well aware of all 5 Eastern European countries which Russians are hide behind so I totally get it that girls are very frustrated and looking for option to completely hide the location

Lolaki
04-17-2021, 09:02 AM
My friend who have read our posts, told me that I sound aggressive. For that reason, I would like to apologize to each one of you who felt bad with my responds. I reasure you that it was not my purpose. I am upset indeed with this new situation and might expected different responds but this is not any of your fault.
Best wishes to anyone and hope you all do well

MissAdriana
04-17-2021, 09:13 AM
Does anybody know how it works if you have put a country listed on your profile and turn geoblock on for that country what happens?

MissAdriana
04-17-2021, 09:56 AM
Pretty sure it’s possible but why lol

LOL true! I was just curious if it even still worked or not? Like would they put you in limbo on the back pages or hide you altogether?

Luckygoldfish
04-17-2021, 10:08 AM
LOL true! I was just curious if it even still worked or not? Like would they put you in limbo on the back pages or hide you altogether?

No I don’t think so , I had Russia banned when I lived there and my country was RU. Worked fine. It’s not like u are only getting traffic from one country. Plus don’t forget u are only banning guests customers still can see.

Luckygoldfish
04-17-2021, 10:10 AM
Girls who is in for contest? I have 5 days freeout of seven but I hope to do 70 hours total . Depends how it will go. What are your plans?

seicento
04-17-2021, 10:25 AM
Does anybody know how it works if you have put a country listed on your profile and turn geoblock on for that country what happens?

You will not be visible for visitors from that country and for all non logged in members.

AuroraJade
04-17-2021, 11:27 AM
I am planning on doing the contest!

After I thought about it I think/hope this is way overblown. The money is still there. There are a lot of models with Eastern European or South American countries on their profile in the top 100's of the contests.... Hard work is the key.

I still think its unfair that SM doesn't allow VPN for models, but customers can use it to bypass geoblocking. Thats ridiculous if you ask me. And the fact that this choice was solely made to appease customers that are looking to meet girls IRL. But SM also buys dating traffic and has fake dating websites to attract guys. Not agree with that at all.

Luckygoldfish
04-17-2021, 11:38 AM
I am planning on doing the contest!

After I thought about it I think/hope this is way overblown. The money is still there. There are a lot of models with Eastern European or South American countries on their profile in the top 100's of the contests.... Hard work is the key.

I still think its unfair that SM doesn't allow VPN for models, but customers can use it to bypass geoblocking. Thats ridiculous if you ask me. And the fact that this choice was solely made to appease customers that are looking to meet girls IRL. But SM also buys dating traffic and has fake dating websites to attract guys. Not agree with that at all.

Well to be honest they have to bring us customers from somewhere . As someone said “ wank and pay “ isn’t that attractive advert lol so dating sites will do , still better than freemiun chaturbate traffic even though I don’t even mind that
At least there are still customers, some premium sites get nearly none lol

Yes money still there , good luck in contest !!!

CamModel95
04-17-2021, 12:18 PM
Why doesn't anyone care about fix? Maybe you dont know it ladies? Some new models have priority placement being first day online. Somebody streaming 2 hours per week with low paid but they always in top by top listing on main page. Tat is why european models changed placement with fake USA location. No other reason. Why priority placement has always been working and still does for selected models?

Luckygoldfish
04-17-2021, 12:26 PM
Porn stars+top models from other sites+ babestations)
it’s not that many it works for SM so whatever
They kind of bringing bunch of customers with them who can later spend on us so make sense
They only have it for couple months then their priorities get dropped unless they work hard ;)
We can’t fix that and I personally don’t want to