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Angela888
04-23-2021, 01:55 AM
Really hope they haven’t gone down this route. SM is a classy website because they don’t allow this in free chat in my opinion, I think it would ruin their brand. Lots of ladies do flash their vag for cash thou so maybe they want to give girls the option. 😜😩 hope not x

gbjenna
04-23-2021, 01:57 AM
Haha yeah they did add things..
Show boobs, flash boobs or bounce boobs or handbra or show nipples
or show booty, show ass or shake ass or twerk
5spanks or 10 spank or 1 spank LOL
Soon to come show left boob show right boob

Fucking add a position where we can offer our own thing!

Ah yes they added sarcasm too bad silly me was doing it for free

Hahahaha. I do occasionally have freeloader idiots asking to show me just one boob, so show left boob right boob could be a winner ha

I liked the ‘smile’ option. I try and keep a smile plastered on my face all day but the one moment I’m caught not smiling, I get someone come in barking at me to smile and I hate it. So I added it to my menu for those types just to be incredibly petty. My regulars have asked why it’s in there before and have tipped for it a couple of times for a laugh.

Hahah yes sarcasm is happily given away for free lool

Angela888
04-23-2021, 01:58 AM
I'm an old school type of model, I don't like performing for a crowd or spread my pussy in public chat. If those items are for free chat, and I believe they are, I'm going to have way less privates. This sucks.

but we can choose what’s on gold menu thou? So just don’t add it? Or am I mixed up x

Luckygoldfish
04-23-2021, 02:01 AM
Damn it I hope anal and pussy isn’t for free chat :(((
No fucking way I can do that lol when hundreds of potential watching and freeloaders
I do deepthroat though (trying to kick those who didn’t pay)

Luckygoldfish
04-23-2021, 02:02 AM
but we can choose what’s on gold menu thou? So just don’t add it? Or am I mixed up x
Yes Angela , but if everyone else will be doing anal in free chat our earning possibly will drop
Trust me they will some already are if u scroll down bunch of naked chicks
I personally don’t give a shit for now

seicento
04-23-2021, 02:05 AM
but we can choose what’s on gold menu thou? So just don’t add it? Or am I mixed up x
We can choose. I didn't mean that I'll have to show if I don't want to. I meant that if pussy and anal will be allowed in public then I will get less privates because they will get to see everything in public, in other rooms. If nudity below belt or shows will be allowed in public, many can cum just browsing from room to room, without even paying. A bit of pussy here, a bit of anal there, thats's it, they don't even need to tip. Same like on CB, 2 guys will tip and 100 will watch for free.

Angela888
04-23-2021, 02:06 AM
The trash took itself out. You'll stay far better clients who know your worth. Sorry you lost all your regulars :(

rates are a funny thing .... and hard to get just right. I stick to not too low not too high, seems to suit me and I do better like that. If I raise them too high I end up sitting too long with no shows. Personally (and this is just me) I’d rather be busier and earning than high and not. However, what also comes into play here is what YOU are happy with. For some it’s about self worth, not just the money. I agree thou if you are too cheap you do attract some right plebs 😔

Angela888
04-23-2021, 02:08 AM
Yes Angela , but if everyone else will be doing anal in free chat our earning possibly will drop
Trust me they will some already are if u scroll down bunch of naked chicks
I personally don’t give a shit for now

oh god yes, no surely not because it would ruin their brand! They would be silly to go down this route xx

Angela888
04-23-2021, 02:09 AM
Damn it I hope anal and pussy isn’t for free chat :(((
No fucking way I can do that lol when hundreds of potential watching and freeloaders
I do deepthroat though (trying to kick those who didn’t pay)

No I can’t either. I tried those sites it was horrendous. I’m praying they not going down this route x

gbjenna
04-23-2021, 02:11 AM
I’ve asked on their live chat support and currently, the agent said none of this is allowed in free chat. But why would people tip for those things like flash pussy priv/excl? All we can do is hope it’s not coming.

Angela888
04-23-2021, 02:15 AM
We can choose. I didn't mean that I'll have to show if I don't want to. I meant that if pussy and anal will be allowed in public then I will get less privates because they will get to see everything in public, in other rooms. If nudity below belt or shows will be allowed in public, many can cum just browsing from room to room, without even paying. A bit of pussy here, a bit of anal there, thats's it, they don't even need to tip. Same like on CB, 2 guys will tip and 100 will watch for free.

yes see what you mean, this would be not a good move for them business wise in my opinion and will no doubt have ladies leaving. I’m sure SM attracts big spenders because it’s way classier than other sites because of the their free chat rules.

Luckygoldfish
04-23-2021, 02:16 AM
However We have no choice but adapt. I understand SM has a very big competition as chaturbate abs mfc and many more
I presume they are trying to survive and it owes us nothing
Nevertheless I am not happy with it at all :((

fetishqueen
04-23-2021, 02:20 AM
I’ve asked on their live chat support and currently, the agent said none of this is allowed in free chat. But why would people tip for those things like flash pussy priv/excl? All we can do is hope it’s not coming.

I have never sold a Gold menu item in a paid chat, ever. This doesn't make any sense whatsoever because I always thought the Gold menu was for free but all these new items are not allowed under the rules.

seicento
04-23-2021, 02:22 AM
I’ve asked on their live chat support and currently, the agent said none of this is allowed in free chat. But why would people tip for those things like flash pussy priv/excl? All we can do is hope it’s not coming.
Are they stupid? Why are they even in the menu if they are not allowed? If the options are there, models will think it's allowed now. I tried to add one to my gold menu and it's been added so yeah, we can use them. And if we have those items, we'll think it's allowed now because gold menu is a public chat thing, right? And if it's not, are they going to suspend us for something they've added to gold menu without clarification?

seicento
04-23-2021, 02:27 AM
yes see what you mean, this would be not a good move for them business wise in my opinion and will no doubt have ladies leaving. I’m sure SM attracts big spenders because it’s way classier than other sites because of the their free chat rules.

Exactly. One of the few sites that was left, where we didn't have to act like monkeys in free chat and where we didn't have to show everything in public in order to make some money. I am annoyed lol.

Angela888
04-23-2021, 02:28 AM
Are they stupid? Why are they even in the menu if they are not allowed? If the options are there, models will think it's allowed now. I tried to add one to my gold menu and it's been added so yeah, we can use them. And if we have those items, we'll think it's allowed now because gold menu is a public chat thing, right? And if it's not, are they going to suspend us for something they've added to gold menu without clarification?

How confusing �� if someone has emailed them to ask (the main support people) pls let us know , or I may email and ask cos I really wanna know. Thanks x

Luckygoldfish
04-23-2021, 02:31 AM
Are they stupid? Why are they even in the menu if they are not allowed? If the options are there, models will think it's allowed now. I tried to add one to my gold menu and it's been added so yeah, we can use them. And if we have those items, we'll think it's allowed now because gold menu is a public chat thing, right? And if it's not, are they going to suspend us for something they've added to gold menu without clarification?

Okey there are mistress and fetish category they don’t tend to show much of a pussy maybe that’s for this
At least we can be relieved for now
But yeah many models will be confused

moneybags
04-23-2021, 02:32 AM
Are they stupid? Why are they even in the menu if they are not allowed? If the options are there, models will think it's allowed now. I tried to add one to my gold menu and it's been added so yeah, we can use them. And if we have those items, we'll think it's allowed now because gold menu is a public chat thing, right? And if it's not, are they going to suspend us for something they've added to gold menu without clarification?

i politely gave feedback thay I don’t want to do nudity in free chat. I’ll go back to club if SM becomes like CB and myfreecams. I’m almost vaccinated.

Angela888
04-23-2021, 02:32 AM
However We have no choice but adapt. I understand SM has a very big competition as chaturbate abs mfc and many more
I presume they are trying to survive and it owes us nothing
Nevertheless I am not happy with it at all :((

No I’m not happy either hun. Yeah I get it’s a competitive market but they stand out above the rest because of those rules and attract gorgeous ladies prob because of this. There is something special about SM and I feel they would lose this appeal and long term not make as much but having only been doing it under a year I don’t really know the ins and outs of the business model.
Yeah I get there are thousands of new models etc so they don’t owe us anything etc but they should listen to ladies’ opinions, after all a business is nothing without its staff.

wealthmagnet
04-23-2021, 02:32 AM
Ladies there are a TON more things on the Gold menu that I didn't think were allowed, spread pussy, bush flash, flash pussy, show pink...wtf???

As a veteran model who absolutely hates the idea of these things being allowed in free chat, i can honestly see them taking that rout. Look at how many models stay with their pink and stink out in free chat. All my years camming i could never understand why models sit in free chat with the entire kitchen sink out. So maybe SM is finally deciding to capitalize on it since those things are going on to begin with. I personally won't be offering those requests in free chat if it becomes a thing but i can definitely see it driving many models off the platform sooner rather than later.

Luckygoldfish
04-23-2021, 02:34 AM
Ah let’s forget about and just be happy we are not going to be chatur ��

Angela888
04-23-2021, 02:35 AM
As a veteran model who absolutely hates the idea of these things being allowed in free chat, i can honestly see them taking that rout. Look at how many models stay with their pink and stink out in free chat. All my years camming i could never understand why models sit in free chat with the entire kitchen sink out. So maybe SM is finally deciding to capitalize on it since those things are going on to begin with.

Sadly I think you maybe right hun �� this is awful for me

Angela888
04-23-2021, 02:35 AM
Ah let’s forget about and just be happy we are not going to be chatur ��

Very true !!! Xxx

Luckygoldfish
04-23-2021, 02:38 AM
No I’m not happy either hun. Yeah I get it’s a competitive market but they stand out above the rest because of those rules and attract gorgeous ladies prob because of this. There is something special about SM and I feel they would lose this appeal and long term not make as much but having only been doing it under a year I don’t really know the ins and outs of the business model.
Yeah I get there are thousands of new models etc so they don’t owe us anything etc but they should listen to ladies’ opinions, after all a business is nothing without its staff.

I agree hun

Luckygoldfish
04-23-2021, 02:39 AM
However traffic is from chatur already :((

Angela888
04-23-2021, 02:47 AM
As a veteran model who absolutely hates the idea of these things being allowed in free chat, i can honestly see them taking that rout. Look at how many models stay with their pink and stink out in free chat. All my years camming i could never understand why models sit in free chat with the entire kitchen sink out. So maybe SM is finally deciding to capitalize on it since those things are going on to begin with. I personally won't be offering those requests in free chat if it becomes a thing but i can definitely see it driving many models off the platform sooner rather than later.

there is one good thing about this! I’m always worried you can see too much when I bend over in free chat, there’s literally a thin bit of Material covering all my bits so I guess at least that worry will go! I tend to feel paranoid any of my lady bits are hanging out cos I know people get suspended for it x that’s the only positive I can see x

wealthmagnet
04-23-2021, 02:57 AM
there is one good thing about this! I’m always worried you can see too much when I bend over in free chat, there’s literally a thin bit of Material covering all my bits so I guess at least that worry will go! I tend to feel paranoid any of my lady bits are hanging out cos I know people get suspended for it x that’s the only positive I can see x

Haha! Most definitely. I have those moments too where i think i may've accidentally shown too much :)

Angela888
04-23-2021, 03:07 AM
Haha! Most definitely. I have those moments too where i think i may've accidentally shown too much :)

Thongs are not exactly discreet haha xx

Luckygoldfish
04-23-2021, 03:07 AM
Yes I was suspended once during contest cause I was wearing strings and it accidentally flipped to the side once lost my good placement in contest
I presumed there are moral police/some girls who has nothing better to do sitting on my chat for hours trying to do screenshots
Since then only big pants for contest :D

Angela888
04-23-2021, 03:14 AM
Yes I was suspended once during contest cause I was wearing strings and it accidentally flipped to the side once lost my good placement in contest
I presumed there are moral police/some girls who has nothing better to do sitting on my chat for hours trying to do screenshots
Since then only big pants for contest :D

oh crikey you must have been gutted hun. Yeah if you are in the top five or ten I’m guessing lots of competition watching and will pounce on one tiny mistake , it’s vile really . Unfortunately that’s a double edged sword of being at the top. It’s so easy for that to happen when you are in the middle of trying to pull in the perves. I have to be super careful cos I’m curvy and wear bodies a lot, the upper bit is working very hard to keep my tits in so it stretches the fabric to the max lol I get so many holes in my underwear cos I’m pulling it this way and that x

Luckygoldfish
04-23-2021, 03:22 AM
Yesterday in my free chat some customer:
“Guys join to she is more hot and much nicer”
:D
Ahah made me laugh
Presume it’s a fan who took initiative “to help” her
Fucking tip her thousands dude instead of that shit

Angela888
04-23-2021, 03:27 AM
Yesterday in my free chat some customer:
“Guys join to she is more hot and much nicer”
:D
Ahah made me laugh
Presume it’s a fan who took initiative “to help” her
Fucking tip her thousands dude instead of that shit

Yeah that’s vile , hate that shit. I hope models don’t get guys to say those things cos if you rank high you should surely have enough confidence in yourself and your abilities not to pull other people down, especially not in front of others like that! It’s like getting perves to advertise you, not good x

Luckygoldfish
04-23-2021, 03:29 AM
Oh sorry nicknames are not allowed
I forgot

moneybags
04-23-2021, 03:30 AM
I sent everything back to Amazon. Was gonna upgrade my cam and room, but I’m gonna see what happens with the nudity and pro act before investing more money into Camming. Seems like camming is a money pit to be honest. I’m grateful for it, but I’m not getting my ROI. I need to feel a little bit more secure before investing more time and money into SM.

Luckygoldfish
04-23-2021, 03:31 AM
Yeah that’s vile , hate that shit. I hope models don’t get guys to say those things cos if you rank high you should surely have enough confidence in yourself and your abilities not to pull other people down, especially not in front of others like that! It’s like getting perves to advertise you, not good x

Yeah she is smarter than that
Also they don’t have time to do screenshots so I presume it’s just the haters

gbjenna
04-23-2021, 03:56 AM
^ That sounds very much to me like the words and actions of a stupid man thinking he's being helpful towards the other model lol.

On another note, I emailed the EU rep Catalina and she asked for screenshots of the gold menu items as she says we're not supposed to have such options. I'll update when she replies. I'm not stressing anymore about it anyway.

Angela888
04-23-2021, 04:03 AM
^ That sounds very much to me like the words and actions of a stupid man thinking he's being helpful towards the other model lol.

On another note, I emailed the EU rep Catalina and she asked for screenshots of the gold menu items as she says we're not supposed to have such options. I'll update when she replies. I'm not stressing anymore about it anyway.

Thank you for the update hun xx

seicento
04-23-2021, 06:12 AM
I got an answer. Nudity below belt it's not allowed and the new items are an error on their end.

moneybags
04-23-2021, 06:16 AM
I got an answer. Nudity below belt it's not allowed and the new items are an error on their end.

Yay!!!!!!! Party On!

Angela888
04-23-2021, 06:50 AM
I got an answer. Nudity below belt it's not allowed and the new items are an error on their end.

thank god!!

AcidYellow
04-23-2021, 07:31 AM
Are they stupid? Why are they even in the menu if they are not allowed? If the options are there, models will think it's allowed now. I tried to add one to my gold menu and it's been added so yeah, we can use them. And if we have those items, we'll think it's allowed now because gold menu is a public chat thing, right? And if it's not, are they going to suspend us for something they've added to gold menu without clarification?

Yes. I agree with you. What a considence before they set a goal bar for some models but not many of us got it. I dont know if is still running. Now these options in our Gold menu, an error? Ummm lets see cuz not many girls out there read this forum and dont know that is actually not allowed, just will take those options as allowed for since they see these things. Somehow SM needs to keep changing cuz new things comming but atleast should rise the percentage if want us do these stuff in free. If they analyze others sites and think being competitive is only this, well, they should also analyze the percentage they offer tho. Also because if Im gonna be recorded for a bunch of guys doing these kind of things, atleast will be glad to take good money in my pocket. Traffic has changed atleast for me, so hard to get good regulars I just have the old ones and they dont like the freemium vibe, well, lets hope is not like we imagine.

seicento
04-23-2021, 07:54 AM
Yes. I agree with you. What a considence before they set a goal bar for some models but not many of us got it. I dont know if is still running. Now these options in our Gold menu, an error? Ummm lets see cuz not many girls out there read this forum and dont know that is actually not allowed, just will take those options as allowed for since they see these things. Somehow SM needs to keep changing cuz new things comming but atleast should rise the percentage if want us do these stuff in free. If they analyze others sites and think being competitive is only this, well, they should also analyze the percentage they offer tho. Also because if Im gonna be recorded for a bunch of guys doing these kind of things, atleast will be glad to take good money in my pocket. Traffic has changed atleast for me, so hard to get good regulars I just have the old ones and they dont like the freemium vibe, well, lets hope is not like we imagine.

I was just thinking earlier about that goal thing, It showed in my account for a day or something like that. I am hoping it is an error and maybe some guy in their staff had insomnia last night and wanted to do a prank but I don't think so. Yeah, freemium took a big part of the market but with all the contests they're doing and prizes offered is hard for me to believe that SM is suffering in any way because it's not a freemium site or needs to become one.

kinkydirtybitch
04-23-2021, 08:03 AM
Are they stupid? Why are they even in the menu if they are not allowed? If the options are there, models will think it's allowed now.
A bit like the music they provided. When I do use and specify the track in the clip listing it gets rejected for having music. Even though they provided it for that exact reason. No response from customer service from any of the numerous messages asking wtf.

gbjenna
04-23-2021, 08:09 AM
Maybe it’s something that’s coming up in the pipeline. How else would all that’s options miraculously just pop up on there when they’re not meant to be there? I worked one freemium site before and I hated it. I really couldn’t think of anything worse again.

Somehow I think a lot of the customers wouldn’t be into it either. Otherwise they’d go to sites like Chaturbate already surely.

everythingiscake
04-23-2021, 08:30 AM
Maybe it’s something that’s coming up in the pipeline. How else would all that’s options miraculously just pop up on there when they’re not meant to be there? I worked one freemium site before and I hated it. I really couldn’t think of anything worse again.

Somehow I think a lot of the customers wouldn’t be into it either. Otherwise they’d go to sites like Chaturbate already surely.

I am hoping it is a private-based chat menu in the works. I have to make my own tip menu for private and would love to have a permanent option that dudes know exists.! I really don't think SM would get rid of the premium chat model. It is the ONLY reason I use the site - that and all the money I make compared to token sites.

emkato
04-23-2021, 10:01 AM
Does anyone else get the customer who wants you to get crutches, ankle brace ect. and pretend to have a broken ankle? is it worth it..?

seems he wants you to put on a show for people coming in your room to believe you're injured and tips for it.... he has been asking for ages and I always tell him I don't have any of the items he wants so he asks me to see if i can obtain them then leaves. but recently one day he told me to start pretending my ankle was broken and that it hurts without said items. granted he started tipping but I had no idea what to say or do and felt hella awkward lmao.

xgirlx
04-23-2021, 10:37 AM
Does anyone else get the customer who wants you to get crutches, ankle brace ect. and pretend to have a broken ankle? is it worth it..?

seems he wants you to put on a show for people coming in your room to believe you're injured and tips for it.... he has been asking for ages and I always tell him I don't have any of the items he wants so he asks me to see if i can obtain them then leaves. but recently one day he told me to start pretending my ankle was broken and that it hurts without said items. granted he started tipping but I had no idea what to say or do and felt hella awkward lmao.

I think i know him.I am in the couples category.he enters in our exclusive chat and he wanna see me to pretend I have a broken ankle .In this rolepay my boyfriend is the doctor .😁

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-23-2021, 10:41 AM
Does anyone else get the customer who wants you to get crutches, ankle brace ect. and pretend to have a broken ankle? is it worth it..?

seems he wants you to put on a show for people coming in your room to believe you're injured and tips for it.... he has been asking for ages and I always tell him I don't have any of the items he wants so he asks me to see if i can obtain them then leaves. but recently one day he told me to start pretending my ankle was broken and that it hurts without said items. granted he started tipping but I had no idea what to say or do and felt hella awkward lmao.

Men who are into weird and obscure fetishes know that they must pay for them upfront. If they aren't willing to pay for specific props for exclusive clips, exclusive camshows etc, then yes they are a waste of time. Those sort of request in free chat can do more harm than it's worth. Imagine that you start hobbling around and pretending to be lame, meanwhile one of you customers is in a wheelchair? Maybe those other guys get turned off by the request because they find the whole thing offensive and go to the next room. If this isn't your kink then don't cater to him.

emkato
04-23-2021, 11:02 AM
I think i know him.I am in the couples category.he enters in our exclusive chat and he wanna see me to pretend I have a broken ankle .In this rolepay my boyfriend is the doctor .��

seems like its worked for you, that's awesome! I would much prefer it in exclusive than in free chat for all to see

edit: for reasons including what phatgirldynamite!!! mentioned above ^

AuroraJade
04-23-2021, 11:49 AM
Maybe it’s something that’s coming up in the pipeline. How else would all that’s options miraculously just pop up on there when they’re not meant to be there? I worked one freemium site before and I hated it. I really couldn’t think of anything worse again.

Somehow I think a lot of the customers wouldn’t be into it either. Otherwise they’d go to sites like Chaturbate already surely.

I think there is a separate Gold menu coming, for in private chats. Which would be awesome.

I am a little bit happy I didn't work the contest this week. My mental illness plus severe allergies are very hard on me this week and I just can't get the energy to go online. Next week I will go all in again.