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ChloeGreenX
05-06-2021, 10:24 PM
Is the traffic totally dead tonight or it is only me? I am only getting in and outers for the past hour. Weird! Last night was the same...
moneybags
05-06-2021, 10:43 PM
^^^i dunno to be honest I just got on.
I did my first gold show. I did it cheap 69 hoping they would tip more. They didn’t. But it was good practice. I’m not gonna offer penetration unless they are tipping GOOD!!!
ChloeGreenX
05-06-2021, 10:47 PM
^^^i dunno to be honest I just got on.
I did my first gold show. I did it cheap 69 hoping they would tip more. They didn’t. But it was good practice. I’m not gonna offer penetration unless they are tipping GOOD!!!
I haven't had any luck doing gold shows. But then again, I haven't tried hard enough to be honest. I just got some gold tips so far tonight, hope it continues like this hahaha
KittenGirl
05-06-2021, 10:53 PM
I have gotten 1 gold show out of 40 attempts in two months and it wasn't even high. I feel like you have to be known for gold shows in order to get them to work. I've seen a few models where they run gold shows non stop as their hustle and they make it happen. But girls who casually just decide to do it don't get it as often
ChloeGreenX
05-06-2021, 11:02 PM
I have gotten 1 gold show out of 40 attempts in two months and it wasn't even high. I feel like you have to be known for gold shows in order to get them to work. I've seen a few models where they run gold shows non stop as their hustle and they make it happen. But girls who casually just decide to do it don't get it as often
Oh wow I didn't know. But maybe I should start doing them. Maybe start with a low goal and low buy-in or something. Thanks :)
KittenGirl
05-06-2021, 11:12 PM
That's a good idea. Truthfully these girls have high ass goals and low buy ins. They just don't do the show until they get their goals. But they hustle HARD! :) try running gold shows back to back for a shift and see how it goes!
I use to do $40 gold shows constantly when I started out. $14 every 10 minutes is like $82/hr :)
bigbum
05-06-2021, 11:20 PM
Is the traffic totally dead tonight or it is only me? I am only getting in and outers for the past hour. Weird! Last night was the same...
oh it was dead AF
ChloeGreenX
05-06-2021, 11:25 PM
That's a good idea. Truthfully these girls have high ass goals and low buy ins. They just don't do the show until they get their goals. But they hustle HARD! :) try running gold shows back to back for a shift and see how it goes!
I use to do $40 gold shows constantly when I started out. $14 every 10 minutes is like $82/hr :)
That's great advice! I'm gonna try it. Thank you so much :)
wealthmagnet
05-07-2021, 02:05 AM
I totally love them too. I have some real gems that make me smile so hard. That’s why I have so many posts complaining about the backlog. Lol.
I feel you! It's just a punch in the butt plug to see them drop off.
anonamiss
05-07-2021, 03:56 AM
Hey ladies I have a real weird situation I'd love some advice on.
I turned off geo blocking because it was like pulling teeth. However I had 3 States blocked. I went to go take a model exclusive tonight (she's my girl crush, lol) and I got an error message to contact support.
So I called them, and the lady told me my account was on hold because someone named _______ at my same address has a customer account too. IT WAS MY DAD WHOM I LIVE WITH.
So they blocked my account because they can't have "two accounts with the same IP address".
I told them to just close my customer account and now I've put my geo blocking back on for just my state alone.
So my question is, will having it on just on one state affect my earnings a whole lot?
all the other weirdness in this post aside... to answer your actual question, yes, any amount of geoblocking will generally have the same effect. no matter if you block a single zip code or an entire country, your search results remain the same. you are unsearchable/not visible to anyone that isn't already logged in with an account which will substantially affect your traffic and therefore your earnings.
in my experience (and i assume this could be backed up by many models here) you will get much better traffic and therefore better earnings with geoblock turned off.
anonamiss
05-07-2021, 03:59 AM
Is the traffic totally dead tonight or it is only me? I am only getting in and outers for the past hour. Weird! Last night was the same...
disclaimer: i hadn't logged on all week, so i got my share of regulars who were missing me but also a lot of new guys. got two gold shows going and a long exclusive over a five hour shift. not great but in no means would i call it dead.
i will note - i got my tip vibe working for the first time in weeks and that substantially helped my earnings.
KittenGirl
05-07-2021, 09:09 AM
all the other weirdness in this post aside... to answer your actual question, yes, any amount of geoblocking will generally have the same effect. no matter if you block a single zip code or an entire country, your search results remain the same. you are unsearchable/not visible to anyone that isn't already logged in with an account which will substantially affect your traffic and therefore your earnings.
in my experience (and i assume this could be backed up by many models here) you will get much better traffic and therefore better earnings with geoblock turned off.
yeah it's a super odd, fucking annoying situation. Thank you so much for your response.
Luckygoldfish
05-07-2021, 10:29 AM
Hey ladies I have a real weird situation I'd love some advice on.
I turned off geo blocking because it was like pulling teeth. However I had 3 States blocked. I went to go take a model exclusive tonight (she's my girl crush, lol) and I got an error message to contact support.
So I called them, and the lady told me my account was on hold because someone named _______ at my same address has a customer account too. IT WAS MY DAD WHOM I LIVE WITH.
So they blocked my account because they can't have "two accounts with the same IP address".
I told them to just close my customer account and now I've put my geo blocking back on for just my state alone.
So my question is, will having it on just on one state affect my earnings a whole lot?
Sorry I got to ask . The most weird thing is that SM just gave away a name of the person with another account on your address? Just like that? Doesn’t seem ok to me coming from SM. Especially if you made a call.
Or did you just assume it was him
What about annonimousy blah blah
Hi newbie here! :) the phone app on SM worth it? Can you explain simply how it works? Thank you for your help
emkato
05-07-2021, 11:23 AM
Is Liz's email still just
[email protected]?
I need to remove a 1 star rating some guy left after only being in Exclusive for literally 1 minute. he even tipped big immediately after entering the exclusive before leaving. super bizarre behavior
SoloDesire
05-07-2021, 12:07 PM
Is Liz's email still just
[email protected]?
I need to remove a 1 star rating some guy left after only being in Exclusive for literally 1 minute. he even tipped big immediately after entering the exclusive before leaving. super bizarre behavior
Regular support will remove any bad ratings in all shows under 3 minutes, no questions asked. No need to bother Liz with it unless it's over 3 minutes, because support won't help with those.
emkato
05-07-2021, 12:15 PM
Regular support will remove any bad ratings in all shows under 3 minutes, no questions asked. No need to bother Liz with it unless it's over 3 minutes, because support won't help with those.
oh shoot I already sent her an email just a few minutes ago... I didn't think support would get back to me on that topic but thanks for letting me know for in the future ^__^
moneybags
05-07-2021, 12:41 PM
^^^i concur. Sucks I know.
AuroraJade
05-07-2021, 02:03 PM
That's a good idea. Truthfully these girls have high ass goals and low buy ins. They just don't do the show until they get their goals. But they hustle HARD! :) try running gold shows back to back for a shift and see how it goes!
I use to do $40 gold shows constantly when I started out. $14 every 10 minutes is like $82/hr :)
I really doooont understand how they are doing it. I hustle my ass of and I can't even get one buy in. Gold shows are nooooot my thing but I want to make them work.
naughtybabe1
05-07-2021, 02:33 PM
Well I had an unusual excl today. Had a guy take me excl and right away he's hot...then he pulls out a lighter and starts to put the flame to a glass pipe of some kind. Now I don't do drugs of ANY KIND OR EVEN SMOKE...I know what weed and bongs are so that's what I thought it was. I know weed is legal in many states. Then he wants to just talk about partying in vegas and doing drugs...the hard kind like meth/coke etc. He was high too so I tried to steer the convo to swinger parties i had seen (don't do then but can fake it)..viagra..other topics and he would do it but then veer back. I ended the show by pretending a bad connection. I don't think SM allows models to talk about drugs on cam doing shows..that's why I stopped. Can anyone clarify? I know we can't be held responsible for what these idiots so on cam on their end...
Miss_ShaSha
05-07-2021, 03:05 PM
Well I had an unusual excl today. Had a guy take me excl and right away he's hot...then he pulls out a lighter and starts to put the flame to a glass pipe of some kind. Now I don't do drugs of ANY KIND OR EVEN SMOKE...I know what weed and bongs are so that's what I thought it was. I know weed is legal in many states. Then he wants to just talk about partying in vegas and doing drugs...the hard kind like meth/coke etc. He was high too so I tried to steer the convo to swinger parties i had seen (don't do then but can fake it)..viagra..other topics and he would do it but then veer back. I ended the show by pretending a bad connection. I don't think SM allows models to talk about drugs on cam doing shows..that's why I stopped. Can anyone clarify? I know we can't be held responsible for what these idiots so on cam on their end...
I think I did a show with the same guy. He's from Vegas and it was meth he was smoking. It made me very uncomfortable. I just stripped and didn't talk about drugs at all. I ignored him for the most part. I ended up blocking him as it was just too uncomfortable for me as he mentioned his family was in the house. Yikes. Not good vibes at all.
KittenGirl
05-07-2021, 03:44 PM
Sorry I got to ask . The most weird thing is that SM just gave away a name of the person with another account on your address? Just like that? Doesn’t seem ok to me coming from SM. Especially if you made a call.
Or did you just assume it was him
What about annonimousy blah blah
No they actually asked me. They said "Well, we have to lock your account because there are two accounts that are on your IP address, and we have to assume it's fraud or someone is using your debit card on file." And I said, "Oh, well I DID have two accounts at once because my first one, they wouldn't let me use and they were suppose to send me an email to verify and they never did. So I just made a new one, but that old one was suppose to be canceled. Can you cancel it?"
And she said, "Do you know a (enter dad's name here) because he's the owner of the other account, not (enter my name here).
I was absolutely mortified. I couldn't believe she released the name of the other owner as well, as that is a privacy violation in my opinion. She proceeded to tell me "If you want to keep your customer account open, you're going to have to ask him to close his."
I told her "Um, sure let me just walk up to my dad and say 'hey can you close your porn account because I want to watch porn.'" :banghead: :banghead:
KittenGirl
05-07-2021, 04:01 PM
I really doooont understand how they are doing it. I hustle my ass of and I can't even get one buy in. Gold shows are nooooot my thing but I want to make them work.
Okay, I'll dish everything I see these girls do and hopefully it helps you, because it helped me!
There are TWO girls I personally know of that destroy their goals, no questions asked. And then I've watched girls that are even top models on the main page and beyond that can't make anything happen. I'll try to describe these two without giving away too much. Admins, if I overstep please feel free to make corrections:
The two girls whom I always see slaughtering the goals is they have two completely different hustles, but they do it and stick to it.
One girl is (I hate to say it) markets herself as a "professional slut". She's extreme. Like, super extreme. She's down with being a dirty whore, and she always does tip-ins less than a few bucks. But she does longer shows. The higher the goal, the more intense the show. The one thing about her is she's super chill and super laid back. She gets a little aggressive with honesty at times, but she's SO laid back.
The second girl never charges more than $2 but she is so open with showing tits in free chat and she is BEYOND energetic. She never takes anything personally, and while her shows can be extreme, I've watched two of them before and it's not really anything most of us can't do or don't do. What she is, that some girls aren't, is a fabulous actress. Men absolutely adore her and worship her because she is bright, fun, smiling, energetic, doesn't let "nontippers" get to her, doesn't call people out, and she lives to entertain.
Both girls have a method that if they don't get their goals, they just do it again. But I will admit, girl #2 seems to have a less harder time getting tips to come in.
I will be openly honest, I have tried hustling in many different styles. I tried the calm and gorgeous seductress and I literally no one cared. I tried the "back alley ho" cheap and dirty hustler method and had a little bit more luck. But the NUMBER ONE way I've been able to get better tips and more traffic is to smile and be fun, loving, sweet, and NEVER.GET.BITTER.
These two girls, also, that's almost all they do. They log on and they get to gold shows immediately. And that's mostly all they do. For me, I had to start low. Like, super low. You get people to tip even just a few bucks and even if you only get a $10 tipped in, do it. But don't make it crazy and psychotic. Other tippers usually tip in, and they get to see what you offer.
These girls didn't get their $500 goals in a few months. They built them up by starting at really low goals and then finally their traffic in their rooms got so crazy that they had to start upping it.
I hate to say it, but from what I've seen, I feel a lot of models fall short in their personalities. I get that being on cam sucks sometimes, but have you ever been at a store and you are around a worker and think "wow, you can tell they don't like their job"?
It's easier to pick up on than you think.
Also, we need to delve deep into the male psyche to understand why a model may not be hitting her goals. I've done so much reading into male psychology and seeing how it transfers over on to SM and this is what I see:
We want to act like million-dollar prima babydolls in an industry where the average customer has a low IQ, high prey drive and a penchant for being degrading and rude.
I'm not saying that you can't be classy on cam and not make money. That's not what I'm saying because there are TONS of women who do it successfully. But what I'm trying to say is that the ratio of cheapskate assholes compared to upscale and wealthy gentlemen on there is easily 100 to 1.
So think about how you want to market yourself and stick to it. Also, if you build up your regulars, they usually are the ones who tip in big for your shows because they want to make you happy.
I know that was a super long answer but I hope it helped.
DISCLAIMER: I do NOT intend to offend anyone or how they perform their hustle on there. I'm not intending to insult any woman. Just giving information on what I've learned and what I've noticed.
anonamiss
05-07-2021, 04:05 PM
I really doooont understand how they are doing it. I hustle my ass of and I can't even get one buy in. Gold shows are nooooot my thing but I want to make them work.
i am pretty successful with gold shows but i basically only do them when i either already have several people in free chat asking for one or saying they'd join one, and/or if i have a reg or two in the room who i know will tip extra into the show. i'd likely fail miserably if i just started one out of the blue with no prior momentum/interest from the room.
i also don't write super specific gold show topics. i found that if i list out everything i plan to do, i get way less buy ins (though i'm sure other model experiences vary wildly with this.) so i basically just write something short like "hey, let's fuck!" which leaves it open-ended, and i can be flirty and conversational during the countdown about what the show might entail. it also leaves room for guys to make requests/suggestions.
i'm also very active during countdowns. i stand up, tease, dance, spank, and get super flirty and chatty. looking into the camera and speaking to guys directly helps a lot.
KittenGirl
05-07-2021, 04:07 PM
Well I had an unusual excl today. Had a guy take me excl and right away he's hot...then he pulls out a lighter and starts to put the flame to a glass pipe of some kind. Now I don't do drugs of ANY KIND OR EVEN SMOKE...I know what weed and bongs are so that's what I thought it was. I know weed is legal in many states. Then he wants to just talk about partying in vegas and doing drugs...the hard kind like meth/coke etc. He was high too so I tried to steer the convo to swinger parties i had seen (don't do then but can fake it)..viagra..other topics and he would do it but then veer back. I ended the show by pretending a bad connection. I don't think SM allows models to talk about drugs on cam doing shows..that's why I stopped. Can anyone clarify? I know we can't be held responsible for what these idiots so on cam on their end...
Oh god that is totally uncomfortable. I know we can't do them on cam but I hope someone more knowledgeable chimes in because I want to hear that too!
Luckygoldfish
05-07-2021, 04:59 PM
Okay, I'll dish everything I see these girls do and hopefully it helps you, because it helped me!
There are TWO girls I personally know of that destroy their goals, no questions asked. And then I've watched girls that are even top models on the main page and beyond that can't make anything happen. I'll try to describe these two without giving away too much. Admins, if I overstep please feel free to make corrections:
The two girls whom I always see slaughtering the goals is they have two completely different hustles, but they do it and stick to it.
One girl is (I hate to say it) markets herself as a "professional slut". She's extreme. Like, super extreme. She's down with being a dirty whore, and she always does tip-ins less than a few bucks. But she does longer shows. The higher the goal, the more intense the show. The one thing about her is she's super chill and super laid back. She gets a little aggressive with honesty at times, but she's SO laid back.
The second girl never charges more than $2 but she is so open with showing tits in free chat and she is BEYOND energetic. She never takes anything personally, and while her shows can be extreme, I've watched two of them before and it's not really anything most of us can't do or don't do. What she is, that some girls aren't, is a fabulous actress. Men absolutely adore her and worship her because she is bright, fun, smiling, energetic, doesn't let "nontippers" get to her, doesn't call people out, and she lives to entertain.
Both girls have a method that if they don't get their goals, they just do it again. But I will admit, girl #2 seems to have a less harder time getting tips to come in.
I will be openly honest, I have tried hustling in many different styles. I tried the calm and gorgeous seductress and I literally no one cared. I tried the "back alley ho" cheap and dirty hustler method and had a little bit more luck. But the NUMBER ONE way I've been able to get better tips and more traffic is to smile and be fun, loving, sweet, and NEVER.GET.BITTER.
These two girls, also, that's almost all they do. They log on and they get to gold shows immediately. And that's mostly all they do. For me, I had to start low. Like, super low. You get people to tip even just a few bucks and even if you only get a $10 tipped in, do it. But don't make it crazy and psychotic. Other tippers usually tip in, and they get to see what you offer.
These girls didn't get their $500 goals in a few months. They built them up by starting at really low goals and then finally their traffic in their rooms got so crazy that they had to start upping it.
I hate to say it, but from what I've seen, I feel a lot of models fall short in their personalities. I get that being on cam sucks sometimes, but have you ever been at a store and you are around a worker and think "wow, you can tell they don't like their job"?
It's easier to pick up on than you think.
Also, we need to delve deep into the male psyche to understand why a model may not be hitting her goals. I've done so much reading into male psychology and seeing how it transfers over on to SM and this is what I see:
We want to act like million-dollar prima babydolls in an industry where the average customer has a low IQ, high prey drive and a penchant for being degrading and rude.
I'm not saying that you can't be classy on cam and not make money. That's not what I'm saying because there are TONS of women who do it successfully. But what I'm trying to say is that the ratio of cheapskate assholes compared to upscale and wealthy gentlemen on there is easily 100 to 1.
So think about how you want to market yourself and stick to it. Also, if you build up your regulars, they usually are the ones who tip in big for your shows because they want to make you happy.
I know that was a super long answer but I hope it helped.
DISCLAIMER: I do NOT intend to offend anyone or how they perform their hustle on there. I'm not intending to insult any woman. Just giving information on what I've learned and what I've noticed.
disagree about don’t get bitter lol bunch of people love it and tip when you talk shit about freeloaders and general shit lol ;) even actual freeloaders tip( prove to me they are not broke cheap fucks)
The other day when it was slow (only get third of the goal) I put my strap on on and said okey bitches change of plan for a gold show you either fucking pay up and fuck me or I will fuck your asses ;) smashed it))) it worked well ended up with 460$ Total for a show
So you have seen two girls but there are more ways
God there are so many ways and tactics, need to choose one accordingly to the crowd at the very moment
KittenGirl
05-07-2021, 05:05 PM
Good post but disagree about don’t get bitter lol bunch of people love it and tip when you talk shit about freeloaders lol ;) even actual freeloaders tip)
Yes this is very true! I think what I meant to say was there's a difference between calling out freeloaders and then just getting mad at the whole room. What are your thoughts on this?
Luckygoldfish
05-07-2021, 05:12 PM
Yes this is very true! I think what I meant to say was there's a difference between calling out freeloaders and then just getting mad at the whole room. What are your thoughts on this?
I just edited my other message lol ;) there are some thoughts
There is a difference between being just angry and about being smart pushy bitchy (if u know what I mean)
All depends On a crowd
Sometimes crowd is good then professional slut it is
But most of the time they need a push
kamiliam
05-07-2021, 05:18 PM
Yes this is very true! I think what I meant to say was there's a difference between calling out freeloaders and then just getting mad at the whole room. What are your thoughts on this?
I think good advice would be that it pays off being in a generally good mood. That being said there are times when I'm waiting ten minutes longer then I wanted to for a reg or I'm real close to a goal and go too long, in those situations I can get ultra bitchy to the whole room. Sometimes it pays off sometimes it doesn't. Really has to vibe with what part of your personality they want. Some think I'm a bitch some think I am super sweet.
Unless I am in a horrible mood I am pretty tolerant*of their chit chat, compliments etc. My real trigger is people expecting me to work for free. People find those outburst pretty hot. There are so many variables to what works when.
I can't bring myself to start a goldshow 98% of my shifts, even though I told myself to do more.
Luci Fer
05-07-2021, 08:01 PM
did they change the location settings again? its giving me the option to show as basically anywhere i like again
They did added some more countries to my list;) yay!
whysky
05-07-2021, 08:57 PM
Also, we need to delve deep into the male psyche to understand why a model may not be hitting her goals. I've done so much reading into male psychology and seeing how it transfers over on to SM and this is what I see:
We want to act like million-dollar prima babydolls in an industry where the average customer has a low IQ, high prey drive and a penchant for being degrading and rude.
I'm not saying that you can't be classy on cam and not make money. That's not what I'm saying because there are TONS of women who do it successfully. But what I'm trying to say is that the ratio of cheapskate assholes compared to upscale and wealthy gentlemen on there is easily 100 to 1.
You dont need to perpetuate the patriarchy to do well on cam. Its never useful to have people fairly new to an industry comment on it or for it. I see it in so many areas. This sounded a lot like the advice a user/client would post as "advice" for new camgirls.
KittenGirl
05-07-2021, 09:50 PM
You dont need to perpetuate the patriarchy to do well on cam. Its never useful to have people fairly new to an industry comment on it or for it. I see it in so many areas. This sounded a lot like the advice a user/client would post as "advice" for new camgirls.
You took my wording completely out of context. What I was trying to say, is that a majority of men on cam sites are cheap skate assholes who love it when a girl acts like a cock hungry whore. There's far more of them than gentlemen who pay well just for a connection with a woman. Let's be real. It's fact.
So what I was trying to tell her was to choose what she wants to cater to and service. If she wants to cater to the fetish of a broader clientele, then she's gonna have to appease that mind frame.
Once again, I mentioned this is based off MY EXPERIENCE. And yes, I am a client and a user as well as a model. I've taken top models exclusive so many times from all categories and even not top models. Call it "business studies" and learning your competition.
Never once did i say you need to perpetrate the patriarchy to do well. I actually stated that. I said "I'm not saying you can't be classy on cam and not make money. There's tons of women who do it successfully."
You even quoted that section yet turned around and claimed i was saying the exact opposite.
God the amount of people on here that take my stuff way out of context or get offended by what I say is really starting to make me not want to be on here.
KittenGirl
05-07-2021, 09:53 PM
You dont need to perpetuate the patriarchy to do well on cam. Its never useful to have people fairly new to an industry comment on it or for it. I see it in so many areas. This sounded a lot like the advice a user/client would post as "advice" for new camgirls.
Also I forgot to add: I mentioned I tried many different types of hustling. I made $36/hr acting like a proper woman who was classy.
I now make $98/hr average acting like a dirty, energetic whore. I take their money and be done with it. She can do whatever she wants. I was giving advice.
moneybags
05-07-2021, 09:58 PM
I don’t think we need to perpetuate to whorearchy. “Classy” or “dirty” we all are selling pussy. Anyways, yes it’s hard to be a “classy” model and make money. I found acting like a “dirty slut” is an easier hustle. I definitely attract wealthy educated men, but it’s hard to wait. Do whatever you feel I’m alignment with, but we’re all whores at the end of the day.
Luckygoldfish
05-07-2021, 10:21 PM
I read that long message properly lol it’s not that good advice . Nothing offensive just not right on my opinion.
You can be dirty and classy at the same time. Also you can be bitchy and nice at the same time. You can shout at them like crazy and angry ( that never works) or you mock them with sarcasm and smile (that works) You can tell a very dirty story with a class and dignity. Good mood , energy , smile, make an effort to set your camera/lighting right, make an effort do nails, hair nice make up you will stand out. people are right it’s not good for new people to give advice like that.
No one took offence some people just disagree with you that’s ok.
You made it very complicated lol it’s not
bigbum
05-07-2021, 10:28 PM
I don’t think we need to perpetuate to whorearchy. “Classy” or “dirty” we all are selling pussy. Anyways, yes it’s hard to be a “classy” model and make money. I found acting like a “dirty slut” is an easier hustle. I definitely attract wealthy educated men, but it’s hard to wait. Do whatever you feel I’m alignment with, but we’re all whores at the end of the day.
i dont think there is a black or white yes or no answer. i think each model is unique and you just have to find what works best for you and what you feel most confident doing. the more confident you are the more the clients feel your good self esteem and self worth the more they will pay.
it takes experience and time for most models to find the right fit.
just my 2 cents.
do what feels natural yet also manipulative with these asshats to drain wallets.
Genoveve
05-07-2021, 10:34 PM
we’re all whores at the end of the day.
Yikes. Speak for yourself.
Luckygoldfish
05-07-2021, 10:54 PM
Also I forgot to add: I mentioned I tried many different types of hustling. I made $36/hr acting like a proper woman who was classy.
I now make $98/hr average acting like a dirty, energetic whore. I take their money and be done with it. She can do whatever she wants. I was giving advice.
Define classy. Sitting there doing nothing looking bored is not classy lol
Why can’t classy woman tell a dirty story ? I would give u so many names on the site now who does it successfully. (But I can’t)
Ok I define what I think is classy , I might be wrong it is just an opinion:
Well dressed , sexy , smilie and flirt, investment in appearance (hair, nails, skin make up lingerie) good camera/light , talking with respect and joking with those who deserve it lol
And if she tells a dirty story she is still classy .
If you could not make money by “being classy” maybe it was “wrong “ classy
As you said before u don’t work many hours , maxing 2 lol do u can’t base your observation on that it takes months to realise what works
kamiliam
05-07-2021, 11:06 PM
You took my wording completely out of context. What I was trying to say, is that a majority of men on cam sites are cheap skate assholes who love it when a girl acts like a cock hungry whore. There's far more of them than gentlemen who pay well just for a connection with a woman. Let's be real. It's fact.
So what I was trying to tell her was to choose what she wants to cater to and service. If she wants to cater to the fetish of a broader clientele, then she's gonna have to appease that mind frame.
Once again, I mentioned this is based off MY EXPERIENCE. And yes, I am a client and a user as well as a model. I've taken top models exclusive so many times from all categories and even not top models. Call it "business studies" and learning your competition.
Never once did i say you need to perpetrate the patriarchy to do well. I actually stated that. I said "I'm not saying you can't be classy on cam and not make money. There's tons of women who do it successfully."
You even quoted that section yet turned around and claimed i was saying the exact opposite.
God the amount of people on here that take my stuff way out of context or get offended by what I say is really starting to make me not want to be on here.
It just seems you are quick to jump to defensiveness, seeing how there are other ways to hustle that don’t play directly into their stereotypes will set you apart. I am an extreme version of myself. I like what I like and I have a lot of experience doing it. You can’t learn by observation.
I remember when I started to pick up momentum earlier in my career, I thought what I was doing at the current moment was the holy grail. I treated it as the reason for my success at the moment. Time made me see the ebbs and flows and how to build. I feel much more in touch with myself and what kinda image I wanted to put out there.
I really don’t think these responses are meant in any way to attack.
Luckygoldfish
05-07-2021, 11:10 PM
PS: what about taking models excl in order “to study”? Putting oddness of it aside I don’t think some girls would be ok with that lol
Maybe just spend some more time online u will study better this way ;)
laurielegs
05-07-2021, 11:15 PM
PS: what about taking models excl in order “to study”? Putting oddness of it aside I don’t think some girls would be ok with that lol
Maybe just spend some more time online u will study better this way ;)
Yeah that would make me super uncomfortable.
What helps most I think is to study your own customers and get into their heads. Study their fetishes, see what they like, ask them to tell you their fantasies.
Sometimes I use their fantasies as part of my scripts for my fetish videos.
bigbum
05-07-2021, 11:27 PM
Define classy. Sitting there doing nothing looking bored is not classy lol
Why can’t classy woman tell a dirty story ? I would give u so many names on the site now who does it successfully. (But I can’t)
Ok I define what I think is classy , I might be wrong it is just an opinion:
Well dressed , sexy , smilie and flirt, investment in appearance (hair, nails, skin make up lingerie) good camera/light , talking with respect and joking with those who deserve it lol
And if she tells a dirty story she is still classy .
If you could not make money by “being classy” maybe it was “wrong “ classy
spoken like a true queen
Luckygoldfish
05-07-2021, 11:33 PM
spoken like a true queen
Haha so are you! I saw you were smashing on 1000$ /day challenge congrats! Considering you are fairly new it’s bloody amazing
Btw I sent a reply to your message the other day but not sure you got it the message system sucks in here ;) just wanted to let u know I didn’t ignore your message :)
Genoveve
05-07-2021, 11:34 PM
PS: what about taking models excl in order “to study”? Putting oddness of it aside I don’t think some girls would be ok with that lol
Maybe just spend some more time online u will study better this way ;)
Yeah this is a pretty weird tactic to me too, because I’m not sure that it would ultimately be that effective. Since you’re not a horny guy you’re probably not going to get the type of experience an actual customer would and you’re not seeing what the chick does through the perspective of an actual customer. You’re looking through a completely different lens. Ultimately what camgirls need to get good at is reading their customers, and you’re not going to get that from spying on other camgirls. You’re gonna get it from doing tons of shows.
bigbum
05-07-2021, 11:42 PM
Haha so are you! I saw you were smashing on 1000$ /day challenge congrats! Considering you are fairly new it’s bloody amazing
Btw I sent a reply to your message the other day but not sure you got it the message system sucks in here ;) just wanted to let u know I didn’t ignore your message :)
awww ! so sweet! ill have a look!
you inspire me! all of you ladies do! i just want to see us build each other up with positive words .
a few examples that come to mind..
suzie here inspired me to change my rates she is such a bad ass! goldfish is well ... the queen.. and minibagel is a literal genius. and shasha is one of the most emotionally intelligent gals i know. she is so in touch with her body and spirit. and i cant wait to get to know many more of you ladies.
there is so much we can learn from each other and grow .
and " whore" is for sure not the word that comes to mind when i think of camming. i hope that part of the post above can be removed. because i think it could be damaging to other cam girls reading those words
we are better than that ladies!
we dont fit into just 2 styles or 2 ways to earn.
Genoveve
05-07-2021, 11:43 PM
Also I forgot to add: I mentioned I tried many different types of hustling. I made $36/hr acting like a proper woman who was classy.
I now make $98/hr average acting like a dirty, energetic whore. I take their money and be done with it. She can do whatever she wants. I was giving advice.
As someone who you would probably classify as being in the classy category(honestly the term is cringe as fuck but whatever), I also take their money and am done with it. It’s all I do. Just for anyone who thinks that if you don’t offer explicit shows you must just have to deal with nothing but draining GFE customers instead. Does not have to be the case.
Luckygoldfish
05-08-2021, 12:00 AM
As someone who you would probably classify as being in the classy category(honestly the term is cringe as fuck but whatever), I also take their money and am done with it. It’s all I do. Just for anyone who thinks that if you don’t offer explicit shows you must just have to deal with nothing but draining GFE customers instead. Does not have to be the case.
Ah that what classy means lol not offering explicit shows?
Odd
On that case my definition of classy is totally wrong
Genoveve
05-08-2021, 12:02 AM
^^^What is your definition?
Luckygoldfish
05-08-2021, 12:08 AM
^^^What is your definition?
It’s above ;) btw I spoke with no sarcasm I actually got it now what she meant by “being classy”
I just had no idea classy means basically none nude (mistresses and such)
I personally disagree
bunch of classy girls on the site doing explicit shows
Might be wrong though is it a general definition of classy on the site? Or someone’s opinion
I am genuinely asking because I am curious:)
Just in case If I sound defensive- I don’t think I am classy lol :D need to work on that