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emkato
08-14-2021, 08:07 AM
Wow you guys have so many followers! Is there any way to increase them? I currently have about 1.2k but I’ve only really been using SM for 3 months so far.

I think the best way to increase them just comes with time. the longer you cam and more time you spend streaming, the more people see you, and in return more people will favorite you :)

fetishqueen
08-14-2021, 02:28 PM
Some new and fun rule breaking on page one tonight, no pussy on show although she has done that before. Instead we've got blatant offers for Snapchat, prices in the room topic and is currently rolling a joint to smoke on cam, or whatever it's called, never been interested myself. Unless drug taking is allowed of course but I'm pretty sure it isn't...

emkato
08-14-2021, 02:35 PM
Some new and fun rule breaking on page one tonight, no pussy on show although she has done that before. Instead we've got blatant offers for Snapchat, prices in the room topic and is currently rolling a joint to smoke on cam, or whatever it's called, never been interested myself. Unless drug taking is allowed of course but I'm pretty sure it isn't...

I am currently watching some girl slapping away at her lady bits close up in free chat. I took s screenshot.....never reported anyone before but considering it. I believe you can openly smoke flower now but I would have to re read the terms of service.

bobsandvangene
08-14-2021, 02:41 PM
Some new and fun rule breaking on page one tonight, no pussy on show although she has done that before. Instead we've got blatant offers for Snapchat, prices in the room topic and is currently rolling a joint to smoke on cam, or whatever it's called, never been interested myself. Unless drug taking is allowed of course but I'm pretty sure it isn't...

This irritates me so much. It makes it so much more annoying to cam because then all the punters expect the same from all of us. ARGH.

emkato
08-14-2021, 03:04 PM
I feel like I am going crazy because I swear I saw an updated code of conduct in the past stating something about legal marijuana but I cant find anything now. Maybe I'm just remembering wrong.

euro_princess
08-14-2021, 04:59 PM
I think the best way to increase them just comes with time. the longer you cam and more time you spend streaming, the more people see you, and in return more people will favorite you :)

Exactly! I’m a veteran in the industry. Always remind people to fav you and have a preset msg for it! Favs are good mostly when times are rough or your position is lower, otherwise I wouldn’t sweat about it.

bootiebabe
08-15-2021, 06:07 AM
i have not posted in ages as its a learning curve with camming - been drunk for a few years past due to people dying around me but i have got better - its not the same with most jobs because you really have no time to grieve - Camming is tough and you get blows with your home life then get better, then blows hit you again but you get better and learn this lively hood is not easy - I see so many new girls join sm now from the uk and that's great but i also remember 10 years ago when i joined and was on that aw forum you was outcast in a sence if you sold yourself to sm -which i did (lol just as those women did on aw)and i will say this you can not earn top dollar all the time, but you can do much better than a vanilla job earnings depending on your attitude and now girls on aw, crap as it was 10 years ago unless you offered the world for 1.99 a min (back then was too high) suck it up from what i am seeing sm is buying there traffic as the crap i am now being asked to do is from there when it all about no taboo i will give you what you want for so little. Camming always rocks its not a get rich quick thing unless YOU put in the effort - There are slower days but lets put it into prospective you will still earn more than you do in an everyday job - Up your prices why after all these years girls are at still so little with prices is beyond me - stop moaning we can all do this if you all stop selling yourself too short .

bootiebabe
08-15-2021, 06:17 AM
Will also Add girls that show there pussy for free i clearly am not one of them but some girls on here are too invested in what others do, get yourself online and do you those girls that break the rules will soon get banned this IS NOT ADULTWORK this is streamate.UK GIRLS get a grip welcome to the real world of camming. in 8 years i have not wasted my precious time on looking what others do online anymore i am a selfless bitch and look after myself and MY potential earnings the 2 years before that i did look on occasions but even then thought crap i need to earn money - ITS all about YOU be selfless not worry about what others do on cam.

bootiebabe
08-15-2021, 07:44 AM
Think of all the free porn there is out there, why is a girl charging much less and showing all her full glory in free chat effecting your earnings???? anyone doing that will eventually get caught out - i was once asking this question many years ago and going on the aw forum getting bashed when i wanted to branch out with everyone saying sm percentage is so awful i have felt so alone at times and just got on with it and sometimes i am pretty thankful for that as my time is precious so when i had free time i just thought to hell with it and earnt MONEY - don't sell yourself short whatever other girls are doing on cam does not effect you ever - if you are at low prices you are more inclined to get wankers that ask for more and give you harsh ratings - just beleive in yourself

Marina Starr
08-15-2021, 08:20 AM
"regular" came in today that hasn't spent in months. I've told him in the past to NOT go into a show for one or two minute. He took me exclusive today for 31 seconds. Took off and never came back.

His pathetic ass is now banned for life.

55806

random stripper
08-15-2021, 08:20 AM
What others do does affect us, but I think it is bad to focus on it too much. Unless it is the majority of girls, it shouldn't ruin your biz. Also customers can pick up on vibes and see if you are in a bad mood or overly focused on some dumb shit so it will fuck up your money.

whysky
08-15-2021, 09:15 AM
there is no hard and fast rule for whether to watch other girls or not. i feel much more positive about the community and supportive of other women when I feel more in touch with what is going on on the site in general. It is good to know what else is going on when you're online if you are a type of person whos anxiety is quelled by more information. Some peoples problems with what girls are doing is cause we care about the bigger picture and not just how much money we make. we feel responsibility for the industry as there isnt anyone except us to keep us all on the same page. it doesnt affect everyone on cam, just cause they come here and want to talk about problematic behaviour. some have the ability to observe and try to to stop problematic behaviour in the industry that harms us all, and also can get on cam and kill and be a wonderful performer and not let anyone elses performance affect their own.

VVV
08-15-2021, 11:52 AM
It was a day ahah. Had a fab past week but was not same tday. More my speed internet is 185.44 download omg it should be v good but SM seems weird today... 2bitrate 71ms. No sure. How was your day?

euro_princess
08-15-2021, 01:19 PM
I think it’s because if girls are showing their pussy for free and / or charging really low rates; how are we supposed to compete? That’s why it annoys us. If I up my price too much I simply won’t get calls as guys will simply chose another girl who has a similar look who is 2£ cheaper. So it does matter what other girls are doing because it DOES affect us in one way or another.

We compete everyday with tube websites and leaked content (even our own leaked clips)! What’s different is the personality, sparkle it and people will come back. Camming is not about pussy anymore! For me, it got to a point where is naked vlogging almost. People wanna know everything about me, wanna hear me talk random subjects (science, baking, sports etc) while I have my clothes off.

anonamiss
08-15-2021, 02:35 PM
I think it’s because if girls are showing their pussy for free and / or charging really low rates; how are we supposed to compete? That’s why it annoys us. If I up my price too much I simply won’t get calls as guys will simply chose another girl who has a similar look who is 2£ cheaper. So it does matter what other girls are doing because it DOES affect us in one way or another.

i don't get why anyone cares about a model showing pussy in free chat. anytime i've stumbled on one, she's never interacting with the room. she's just laying there with a closeup shot, diddling her bits for free. there may be lots of people watching but hardly anyone is tipping or going into a show. so how is that any more "competition" than the endless amount of free jerk off material all over the internet?

if you consider dollar menu models or girls who show nudity in free chat to be competition, then you need to seriously up your game, and your self confidence. you really don't want the kinds of low quality customers who go for the cheapest model anyway.

there's a reason why we have the option to set our rates so high. it's because there are guys who will absolutely pay it. but it's up to the model to hustle and convince customers that she is worth her price tag. you can't just rely on being passively attractive and expect guys to swoop you away, particularly at higher prices. personality and quality live interaction is key to standing out and distinguishing yourself.

fetishqueen
08-15-2021, 03:03 PM
It's not even always about that. Sites have rules for a reason, one of those being payment processor requirements. I really don't know the ins and outs (no pun intended!) of how that works but surely if a site is seen to be flouting the rules that can't be a good thing, not for any reason. It's not a petty 'it's not fair', it's much more than that. Yes the rule breakers MIGHT get banned, eventually. Or maybe the whole site gets into trouble because of a few selfish people. And that affects every single one of us.

anonamiss
08-15-2021, 03:49 PM
so maybe someone can shed some light on this. i am totally aware that one of the main reason camsites have rules is because of credit card processors.

but if that's the case, then how do sites like MFC and Chaturbate even exist, where there is explicit nudity available en masse for free / not behind a paywall (but you still use a credit card to tip)?

my interpretation (which may be totally wrong and if someone is knowledgeable, i'd love to understand more) is that payment processors seem to care a lot more about the nature of the content itself, which is why certain roleplays and sex acts are banned (and are seemingly more enforced/punished). i guess i'm not afraid of streamate "getting into trouble" over a small percentage of models breaking rules by being nude in free chat, when token sites with tons of free explicit sex streams exist. surely those sites would get targeted first if there is ever a large scale legal or payment processing concern regarding nudity rules, since it is so widespread on those platforms?

or another thought -- do we even know for sure that streamate's no-nudity rule has to do with payment processors definitively? or is it just to make their pay-to-view site model stand out from token sites? if it's the latter i'd understand why they'd be more lax about it, compared to enforcing actual payment processor related rules which could actually threaten the site being shut down.

anonamiss
08-15-2021, 04:04 PM
I haven’t had the same experience, I saw one girl flashing her pussy to encourage buyers to buy into her gold show, (it did work tbf) but other models aren’t allowed to do that, all of us should follow the rules. There are certain shows I can’t do because it’s against the rules on SM, yet I know I could make a fortune doing them, but I follow the rules regardless so I can see why some girls get annoyed a little when they see blatant rule breaks with no repercussions

i sympathize with what you're saying. i am not a rule breaker and i do get annoyed with guys who insist that because other girls break the rules, i should too.

but i also feel like a lot of models (myself included sometimes) like to complain about rule breakers when they are having a bad day / not making money, because it's an easy scapegoat to convince yourself that you'd be "making a fortune" if only you could break the rules, or if those rule breakers weren't online "taking your customers." except i don't *actually* think this is the case the majority of the time.

plus if you are so certain you could "make a fortune" doing shows that are against site rules, then get creative and figure out how to get your customers onto social media so you can offer indie/skype shows with a higher payout where you can do whatever roleplays and fetishes you want.

anonamiss
08-15-2021, 04:06 PM
Things like Pee shows are banned on all cam sites as far as I’m aware, MFC, CB, SM… there must be a reason behind it. On niteflirt they recently banned some fetish stuff too, so there must be a reason behind it.

right, that's what i'm saying. CC processors care much more about specific acts which is why many fetishes are now banned across all platforms.

but just straight nudity/vanilla sex doesn't seem to be, unless token sites are in blatant violation of that rule. which is why i wonder if streamate's nudity rule has anything to do with CC processors at all.

kamiliam
08-15-2021, 04:13 PM
right, that's what i'm saying. CC processors care much more about specific acts which is why many fetishes are now banned across all platforms.

but just straight nudity/vanilla sex doesn't seem to be, unless token sites are in blatant violation of that rule. which is why i wonder if streamate's nudity rule has anything to do with CC processors at all.

That's what I always thought was the case. Below the belt nudity is their rule just like no social media/OF/etc

bigbum
08-15-2021, 04:16 PM
right, that's what i'm saying. CC processors care much more about specific acts which is why many fetishes are now banned across all platforms.

but just straight nudity/vanilla sex doesn't seem to be, unless token sites are in blatant violation of that rule. which is why i wonder if streamate's nudity rule has anything to do with CC processors at all.

my guess is it has to do with SEO rankings and adverts. sites that have nudity are harder to rank, harder to buy ads for ect. it would isolate the site from being whitelabel friendly and whitehat in advert nature.

bigbum
08-15-2021, 04:19 PM
Things like Pee shows are banned on all cam sites as far as I’m aware, MFC, CB, SM… there must be a reason behind it. On niteflirt they recently banned some fetish stuff too, so there must be a reason behind it.

pee is so complicated because somehow 'squirting" is ok. but then again i saw some girls on CB a group on the front page ,all of them literally drinking their urine from buckets on the floor. so umm maybe it has started getting out of hand.
1 thing leads to another. and then before you know it you are watching girls drink urine and spray each other by peeing in each other's mouths and calling it "squirting"

Luckygoldfish
08-16-2021, 07:20 AM
i sympathize with what you're saying. i am not a rule breaker and i do get annoyed with guys who insist that because other girls break the rules, i should too.

but i also feel like a lot of models (myself included sometimes) like to complain about rule breakers when they are having a bad day / not making money, because it's an easy scapegoat to convince yourself that you'd be "making a fortune" if only you could break the rules, or if those rule breakers weren't online "taking your customers." except i don't *actually* think this is the case the majority of the time.

plus if you are so certain you could "make a fortune" doing shows that are against site rules, then get creative and figure out how to get your customers onto social media so you can offer indie/skype shows with a higher payout where you can do whatever roleplays and fetishes you want.
100% truth
naked pussies do not influence our income. and you are right every time I look they are just laying there and not making much because the point of webcam site is interaction and ability to sell ( you can get bunch of free naked pussies everywhere lol) to get men interested and successful models really rarely would risk their account banned with so flashing in free chat.
yeah 10 years ago you could go by just looking attractive and putting good show its not the case anymore you do need to get creative and put extreme effort regarding selling your services , Competition is extreme ( and I am not talking about naked pussies the are not competitors at all, I am talking about these amazing smart funny interactive girls with great set of skills) and clients are very spoiled now days
Some people just looking for excuses why are they not making desirable money and its always others and NEVER them lol
I also 100% agree regarding cheap models and about contingent which visiting them -rude, quick, bad -mannered guys on the top of it I am sure sometimes it is the factor that "something is expensive it must be good " obviously you do need to stand out and offer good services for a price and be totally in it like cant afford to look distracted or cant afford looking like you are just doing a job and such

DeliveryLadyx
08-16-2021, 08:49 AM
I look often on the pages and i am not ashamed to say if i see screenshots with genitals on display or performers doing stuff for long periods of time with pussy/cock on display i take screenshots and report them , Streamate is not Chaturbate.
Anyone experiencing bitrate fluctuations today? I have 2 hours and fluctuates lots, am sitting at 17$ and i get random trolls. Did put my ISP to refresh the line but is all good on my side.

Luckygoldfish
08-16-2021, 08:58 AM
I look often on the pages and i am not ashamed to say if i see screenshots with genitals on display or performers doing stuff for long periods of time with pussy/cock on display i take screenshots and report them , Streamate is not Chaturbate.
Anyone experiencing bitrate fluctuations today? I have 2 hours and fluctuates lots, am sitting at 17$ and i get random trolls. Did put my ISP to refresh the line but is all good on my side.

and thats fine they are still breaking rules I dont say what they do is right I just say it doesnt influence us
Yes bitrate was crazy for the last week
goes up to 4,00 ( which never happened before) then down to reds

DeliveryLadyx
08-16-2021, 09:08 AM
Yesterday the bitrate was stable and I did decent money. Today, no matter what, cannot attract spenders and the thing is fluctuating.... grrr

emkato
08-16-2021, 09:34 AM
my bitrate is sitting around 3.69 - 3.75

DeliveryLadyx
08-16-2021, 09:42 AM
Mine sits usually at 4.10, keeps fluctuating x and for some weird reason it's effecting the traffic in my room.

emkato
08-16-2021, 09:52 AM
traffic has been fairly consistent today for me, pretty good for a Monday. I also raised my prices a bit and I am testing the waters. so far so good. no more selling myself short, I'm too good at what I do to let that mindset mess with me.

DeliveryLadyx
08-16-2021, 09:57 AM
So pleased for you! I know you have been struggling past weeks from what you wre saying. I am 8$ pvt and 9$ exclu and i would like to raise them more if I go back nights but I am afraid at the moment. :D

Ambercat
08-16-2021, 09:59 AM
My first day back on SM for nearly 3 weeks. My bit rate has been jumping round but in over 3.7 most of the time.

Until today it's never been higher than 2.5 which for me was green, I didn't know it went higher :-)

naughtybabe1
08-16-2021, 10:10 AM
So I have a question. Every now and then I get the "How much are you charging?" question. I just ignore them. But...since I don't see the customer interface...How do the customers get informed on what we charge?? Is it listed somewhere before they got pvt or excl? Is it listed after they hit a pvt or excl button? Do they see how much they are being charged while in the show? This is something I'd love to know. Any info is appreciated..thanks.

Ambercat
08-16-2021, 10:13 AM
If they hit the pvt button it doesn't instantly take them pvt, it brings up the pvt and exclusive rate in their currency. I just let them know this because i don't know what the tax inclusive rate is.

naughtybabe1
08-16-2021, 10:31 AM
If they hit the pvt button it doesn't instantly take them pvt, it brings up the pvt and exclusive rate in their currency. I just let them know this because i don't know what the tax inclusive rate is.

ahhh! Ok..that makes total sense. I wasn't sure when or how they were informed. That's the answer I was looking for thanks!
Now I can say .."just hit the stupid button timewaster!"...hahahahaha

emkato
08-16-2021, 10:32 AM
My first day back on SM for nearly 3 weeks. My bit rate has been jumping round but in over 3.7 most of the time.

Until today it's never been higher than 2.5 which for me was green, I didn't know it went higher :-)

same, hoping its a good thing that its higher. my traffic been significantly better. even had some old regs who I haven't seen in forever do shows today which was nice ^^

Ambercat
08-16-2021, 10:43 AM
Engineers from my ISP were around my complex last week and they've told me we're getting fibre in October. Cannot wait to have an upload speed of higher then 8mbps it's going to open up a whole new world!

bobsandvangene
08-16-2021, 10:51 AM
I'm online ATM, and the traffic appears to be better - I just have so little motivation hahaha. I've done $50 in the first hour of being online, and I already want to nap. Help.

DeliveryLadyx
08-16-2021, 11:12 AM
Picked up past hour, had a regular and a mini whale. Off for walk, dinner and will be back later for a couple hours or more. I noticed traffic is better since they increased the bitrate for UK.

Luckygoldfish
08-16-2021, 11:23 AM
Engineers from my ISP were around my complex last week and they've told me we're getting fibre in October. Cannot wait to have an upload speed of higher then 8mbps it's going to open up a whole new world!
Do you think so? I am not sure I dont have fibre in my area either but from my understanding SM requires only around 5 MB(upload) mine is like 10 Mb(upload) as well I dont think it matters either u get 10 or 100 or it does?... I am still doing ok but I always wonder if I do better with fibre
that was one time I streamed with totally horrible connection )constant red/yellow bitrate) and was banking so I dunno really if it makes difference, still worth getting fibre f U can. Let me know how u are doing then xxx

Ambercat
08-16-2021, 11:33 AM
To be honest I never had a problem with earnings going down when i streamed on hotel wifi....I just feel like everything is struggling when my other half is gaming and i'm streaming. I just want to have one less thing to blame for when my earnings are not what i want. I've been saying for a year or so that I never make any money streaming 6-8 UK time and yet I've just logged on and made over a hundred in 90 mins. It's 90% attitude!!

emkato
08-16-2021, 11:53 AM
To be honest I never had a problem with earnings going down when i streamed on hotel wifi....I just feel like everything is struggling when my other half is gaming and i'm streaming. I just want to have one less thing to blame for when my earnings are not what i want. I've been saying for a year or so that I never make any money streaming 6-8 UK time and yet I've just logged on and made over a hundred in 90 mins. It's 90% attitude!!

yes I agree about attitude. some days traffic is genuinely lame but having a bad mental health day on top of it is a recipe for disaster for me. I log off, refresh, and come back when my mental state is more positive. sometimes I need a whole day to recoup. makes all the difference.

Luckygoldfish
08-16-2021, 12:02 PM
To be honest I never had a problem with earnings going down when i streamed on hotel wifi....I just feel like everything is struggling when my other half is gaming and i'm streaming. I just want to have one less thing to blame for when my earnings are not what i want. I've been saying for a year or so that I never make any money streaming 6-8 UK time and yet I've just logged on and made over a hundred in 90 mins. It's 90% attitude!!
ah yes if someone is gaming and U only have 8 mb than yeah it can totally influence it

Marina Starr
08-16-2021, 12:06 PM
My upload speed is over 20, bite rate is normally over 2. Lately bite rate is over 3 which is a good thing. I wonder what SM did.

kamiliam
08-16-2021, 12:18 PM
I usually have around 8 upload(fuck you Comcast monopoly) and have consistently had 4.something since we could see it. No recent change with my bitrate, unlike seemingly most of you. These bitrate numbers are so random, I too have had great hours when I have been in the yellow and red.

Marina Starr
08-16-2021, 12:27 PM
I have CONcast business and trust me it's no better than residential. Some of my high earning weeks are when my bitrate is all over the place, LOL. I figure as long as they're staying and not complaining that means they can see me just fine.


I usually have around 8 upload(fuck you Comcast monopoly) and have consistently had 4.something since we could see it. No recent change with my bitrate, unlike seemingly most of you. These bitrate numbers are so random, I too have had great hours when I have been in the yellow and red.

euro_princess
08-16-2021, 01:02 PM
So I have a question. Every now and then I get the "How much are you charging?" question. I just ignore them. But...since I don't see the customer interface...How do the customers get informed on what we charge?? Is it listed somewhere before they got pvt or excl? Is it listed after they hit a pvt or excl button? Do they see how much they are being charged while in the show? This is something I'd love to know. Any info is appreciated..thanks.

They can click anywhere on your screen and see your prices. It doesn’t have to be the private button, just a random click. If people can’t figure that out, dunno what to say, lost cause!

looklovely
08-16-2021, 01:56 PM
I received two tags: "Bra Helps Boobs and "Nasty Boobs" I've been kicking a lot and blocked a customer I had in the past. I looked up other models tagged "Nasty Boobs", and they also have the tag "Bra Helps Boobs." I left "Bra Helps Boobs", but not sure if I'll get any business from it. Sometimes, I hate these tags...Kinda of ruined my morale.

Serena-Shields
08-16-2021, 02:12 PM
Anyone dealing with the stupid verification scan? My stream isn't connecting, and every time I refresh SMC to try again, it makes me do the scan all over again lmfao. The page is also becoming completely unresponsive and I have to exit over and over again.....

Esixxx
08-16-2021, 02:18 PM
I received two tags: "Bra Helps Boobs and "Nasty Boobs" I've been kicking a lot and blocked a customer I had in the past. I looked up other models tagged "Nasty Boobs", and they also have the tag "Bra Helps Boobs." I left "Bra Helps Boobs", but not sure if I'll get any business from it. Sometimes, I hate these tags...Kinda of ruined my morale.

Sounds like we got hit by the same tag troll. I had those last weekend. I got "b" cup- I am "a" cup, then "expensive"- why thank you- I'll keep that, then "small boobs"- accurate, then "nasty boobs" and "bra helps boobs"

Out of curiosity I clicked on the tag to see who else was appearing under those tags-the nasty boobs and bra helps boobs were all gorgeous models-so I didn't take it personally. I just blocked the some of the tags.

Whomever trolled us, has a serious self image issue with themselves. I prayed for them and going about my merry way :D

looklovely
08-16-2021, 02:22 PM
Sounds like we got hit by the same tag troll. I had those last weekend. I got "b" cup- I am "a" cup, then "expensive"- why thank you- I'll keep that, then "small boobs"- accurate, then "nasty boobs" and "bra helps boobs"

Out of curiosity I clicked on the tag to see who else was appearing under those tags-the nasty boobs and bra helps boobs were all gorgeous models-so I didn't take it personally. I just blocked the some of the tags.

Whomever trolled us, has a serious self image issue with themselves. I prayed for them and going about my merry way :D


I wish they would show us--WHO left the tags, so we can report them. I'd leave the "Expensive" tag, for the Findoms guys. I think it was a member name longshlong(something).