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DeliveryLadyx
08-17-2021, 02:46 PM
A week! is my bread and income! I would stream more hours, just scared of placement if i do that.
I always have minmum 90 hours a mont. Yeah, I do take lot of breaks as well because i'm trying to stay ''on''. i find if i just stare at the webcam and sit no one gives a shiite....

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 02:47 PM
for the past month I didn;t make over 20-25 hours-30h at most. Do you think here is my mistake?

did you say you charge 8 pvt and 9 excl?
and where are you roughly? page?

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 02:49 PM
A week! is my bread and income! I would stream more hours, just scared of placement if i do that.

so roughly the same as me over month its good hours! still not what they required for the best possible traffic though. Honestly I cant say 100% but why not give a shot? once you reach 160 hours see whats it like U wont loose your placement even if you earn less $/hour ( over one month) and u still end up with more $ overall as you stream 40 more hours

DeliveryLadyx
08-17-2021, 02:50 PM
Yes. I cannot decide which price to set, maybe is too high dunno, but considering lot of guys tips... mmm i do a la carte activities..............

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 02:52 PM
Yes. I cannot decide which price to set, maybe is too high dunno, but considering lot of guys tips... mmm i do a la carte activities..............

well I would do bigger gap between pvt and excl I would set pvt around 6-7 and excl well 10.
I am 7 and 11

DeliveryLadyx
08-17-2021, 02:54 PM
Well, you are a veteran :) I don't have years, only 4300 favorites here. But think i will do that , a bigger gap. Will increase the exclu at 10 in september when i see traffic back to normal, don't want regulars scared...

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 02:55 PM
Yes. I cannot decide which price to set, maybe is too high dunno, but considering lot of guys tips... mmm i do a la carte activities..............

do you have tip vib?

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 02:56 PM
Well, you are a veteran :) I don't have years, only 4300 favorites here. But think i will do that , a bigger gap. Will increase the exclu at 10 in september when i see traffic back to normal, don't want regulars scared...

they wont trust me if they go with 9 they will go with 10 they wont see difference unless u put like 15 lol try it you an always go back :)
but maybe you are right see how you feel xxxxbare in mind it take few days to test new price u wont understand in a day

DeliveryLadyx
08-17-2021, 02:58 PM
Hmm, I did once 10$ and was ok, think i will take a leap of faith and increase my exclusive at 10 :)))) I do have the ohmibod and that is how i get loads of tips :) with lovense no, they like the light.

Erika_Xstacy
08-17-2021, 02:59 PM
hahaha a month of course! :D I am around 100-120 hours a month but whole lot of them only during contest and the rest.. well the rest I am lazy lol Do you remember when we used to have "ranking"? it was 90 hours then and now its 160.. I only did it couple times last year and once this year in January but I think I have noticed the difference but I couldn't put up with 160 hours each month lol so good traffic went down the sink but I am taking lots of unnecessary breaks during stream just to breath out or stare at the ceiling lol I am trying hard now not to to

i am curious what ranking for 90 or 160 hrs is? i have never heard of that.
i know of 90 day ranking but never anything monthly

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 03:01 PM
Hmm, I did once 10$ and was ok, think i will take a leap of faith and increase my exclusive at 10 :)))) I do have the ohmibod and that is how i get loads of tips :) with lovense no, they like the light.

exactly esca2 is the best! :)
see I sense that you will be very successful over time by reading your posts xx
probably lower the pvt rate its quite high
where roughly are you? placement if its ok to ask

DeliveryLadyx
08-17-2021, 03:02 PM
Usually I am row 5 page 1, but past 2 days i selected non logged on traffic and not to appear on the page.

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 03:06 PM
i am curious what ranking for 90 or 160 hrs is? i havever heard of that.
i know of 90 day ranking but never anything monthly
we used to have "ranking" back in days with different things in there like rating, RRT, bitrate, Frame per mint , hours online and u suppose to hit "excellent" in each in order to get good traffic so it used to be 90 hours a month then they got rid off "Ranking"( I guess because lots of models wereute stressing out over it and it was very glitchy regarding RRT and bitrate ) as such but I believe it is still there just not kind of visible for us. But its no longer 90 hours its 160

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 03:08 PM
Usually I am row 5 page 1, but past 2 days i selected non logged on traffic and not to appear on the page.

that is a very good position I would go for 10$ excl for sure

DeliveryLadyx
08-17-2021, 03:09 PM
Ok, I did set my pvt 6 and exclu 10 and with block sessions enabled and see how it will be from tomorrow. And I will have minimum 40 hours this week and next week, gotta see if will be more traffic. Earnings, will be more because, really, is just more hours even on bad days. Thank you!

Erika_Xstacy
08-17-2021, 03:28 PM
we used to have "ranking" back in days with different things in there like rating, RRT, bitrate, Frame per mint , hours online and u suppose to hit "excellent" in each in order to get good traffic so it used to be 90 hours a month then they got rid off "Ranking"( I guess because lots of models wereute stressing out over it and it was very glitchy regarding RRT and bitrate ) as such but I believe it is still there just not kind of visible for us. But its no longer 90 hours its 160

I have never known about required hours online, thats new to me. lol i obviously missed something since 2009
I asked eons ago what is the average time online for camgirls and was told 20 is equivalent to working 40 bc we hustle hard and that's why I have a fit over 25 hours being required for those bonus weeks.

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 03:33 PM
I have never known about required hours online, thats new to me. lol i obviously missed something since 2009
I asked eons ago what is the average time online for camgirls and was told 20 is equivalent to working 40 bc we hustle hard and that's why I have a fit over 25 hours being required for those bonus weeks.

customer support nowdays telling its 160 :)
everytime girls complain to support "where is my fucking money?" they are told to be interactive blah blah and make sure stream no less than 160 hours

Marina Starr
08-17-2021, 03:44 PM
Hell no, that's 40 hours a week. I bet support don't even work those hours, lol.

When they used to have status under report, I believe you need to have 90 hours a month to be consider excellent so that's a little more than 22 hours a week. 160 hours divided by 4 weeks is 40 a week. Support must be smoking something...

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customer support nowdays telling its 160 :)
everytime girls complain to support "where is my fucking money?" they are told to be interactive blah blah and make sure stream no less than 160 hours

SoloDesire
08-17-2021, 03:50 PM
Hell no, that's 40 hours a week. I bet support don't even work those hours, lol.

When they used to have status under report, I believe you need to have 90 hours a month to be consider excellent so that's a little more than 22 hours a week. 160 hours divided by 4 weeks is 40 a week. Support must be smoking something...

Yeah, fuck that. Working 40 hours every single week on cam is just torture. They can go fuck themselves like all of the losers that are paying me to do my 20-25 hours a week lol.

Marina Starr
08-17-2021, 04:00 PM
YES, girl so true! Even with with 25 hours a week, that's like 50 hours in cam world. I do 15 hours a week so that's 30 hours for me, LOL.
I bet support is talking out of their asses. Would have to confirm with Liz because I bet we know more than support.

Can you imagine support working 40 hours a week and having to deal with losers complaining their dick got soft because they got disconnected, models aren't showing shit for free or they were cheated for tipping 1 gold, etc?!

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Yeah, fuck that. Working 40 hours every single week on cam is just torture. They can go fuck themselves like all of the losers that are paying me to do my 20-25 hours a week lol.

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 04:11 PM
Yes it’s very tough but No point of complaining though it is what it is no one force us to do that lol but some are willing to try to see if it changes for better what if I work 160 hours for 3 months bank that big that I can take a year off LOL there are much harder jobs with more hours with less money :)

Support doesn’t make as much $ as us lol

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 04:20 PM
Yes confirm with Liz. I only know what regular support is saying and general observation after hitting 160 hours traffic was awesome but that could be coincidence as I didn’t do it very often lol

PS also ask her how much suppose is making :D (maybe not)

Marina Starr
08-17-2021, 04:29 PM
It's not so much hours complaining but so more about not being totally convinced that what support said is true. I just don't believe it's 160 a month but I would like to confirm with Liz if that's true.

Many of us cam so that we can make a decent living without having to work vanilla hours. Anyone that can do those hours more props to them but I won't :)


Yes it’s very tough but No point of complaining though it is what it is no one force us to do that lol but some are willing to try to see if it changes for better what if I work 160 hours for 3 months bank that big that I can take a year off LOL there are much harder jobs with more hours with less money :)

Support doesn’t make as much $ as us lol

SoloDesire
08-17-2021, 04:39 PM
Yeah, I do this job so I DON'T have to work that many hours. Work when I want and how often I want and no one to tell me what to do. That's why I love camming. Also, placement doesn't mean fuck all on Streamate anymore...I don't make any different amounts of money whether I'm first page or third page. They've made sure to fuck all of that up and give every member different placement algorithm's. My first page on my member account never shows any of the models I see when I'm logged out lol. I stopped worrying about it a long time ago. I focus more on tags and what I put in my bio to bring in the femdom losers.

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 04:44 PM
Then it’s not a problem you still get traffic as usual and for those who wants more they will
Work more as simple as it is. Please confirm with Liz and let us know :)

Marina Starr
08-17-2021, 04:45 PM
Camming gives us a lot but we also sacrifice certain things (it's personal for everyone) for camming so I'm expecting to work a lot less hours and get paid good or I'd do vanilla work.


Yeah, I do this job so I DON'T have to work that many hours. Work when I want and how often I want and no one to tell me what to do. That's why I love camming. Also, placement doesn't mean fuck all on Streamate anymore...I don't make any different amounts of money whether I'm first page or third page. They've made sure to fuck all of that up and give every member different placement algorithm's. My first page on my member account never shows any of the models I see when I'm logged out lol. I stopped worrying about it a long time ago. I focus more on tags and what I put in my bio to bring in the femdom losers.

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 04:47 PM
Yeah, I do this job so I DON'T have to work that many hours. Work when I want and how often I want and no one to tell me what to do. That's why I love camming. Also, placement doesn't mean fuck all on Streamate anymore...I don't make any different amounts of money whether I'm first page or third page. They've made sure to fuck all of that up and give every member different placement algorithm's. My first page on my member account never shows any of the models I see when I'm logged out lol. I stopped worrying about it a long time ago. I focus more on tags and what I put in my bio to bring in the femdom losers.
Nevertheless general listing (for USA, if you checking from USA or under US vpn) indicates who makes the most $/hour and popular models are still quite high for each customer (I believe so)

SoloDesire
08-17-2021, 04:52 PM
Nevertheless general listing (for USA, if you checking from USA or under US vpn) indicates who makes the most $/hour and popular models are still quite high for each customer (I believe so)

Yeah, if you're logged out of a members account maybe. When I'm logged in to my member account I get suggested models based on who I view the most (so mostly curvy or femdom models). So just because you're a top model when viewing logged out doesn't mean you're a top model for everyone logged in to their member account. I sometimes have to go pages back to find the top models that I see when I'm logged out (even if I sort by USA). That was my point.

~Carmen~
08-17-2021, 05:34 PM
My limit is between 18 and 22 hours. Any more than that and I get burned out.

everythingiscake
08-17-2021, 05:42 PM
Is anyone else noticing their stream a bit jerky for a minute or two after logging in? Never seen that before. Even once the Stream Quality is showing Excellent.

YES. This keeps happening and I thought it was my computer or connection. Started same time as face scan was introduced.

Marina Starr
08-17-2021, 05:45 PM
I believe that slow, steady but consistent wins the race :)

If I sell pussy 40 hours a week, I'd have to take lots of time off for being burned out and completely hated it so in the end I'm actually making less money.


My limit is between 18 and 22 hours. Any more than that and I get burned out.

~Carmen~
08-17-2021, 06:07 PM
I believe that slow, steady but consistent wins the race :)

If I sell pussy 40 hours a week, I'd have to take lots of time off for being burned out and completely hated it so in the end I'm actually making less money.

Exactly! Spot on sis.

Marina Starr
08-17-2021, 06:13 PM
Thank you, sis!

Spenders don't like a burned out hoe.

And on a random note, I just took my bipolar (batshit crazy) meds and ready to sleep like a baby.


Exactly! Spot on sis.

Erika_Xstacy
08-17-2021, 07:44 PM
Yes it’s very tough but No point of complaining though it is what it is no one force us to do that lol but some are willing to try to see if it changes for better what if I work 160 hours for 3 months bank that big that I can take a year off LOL there are much harder jobs with more hours with less money :)

Support doesn’t make as much $ as us lol

the more hours you do work the more ppl you do have a chance at converting plus the regulars you do have and just let the members keep building up.
I can see support recommending to work full time hours if you are seeking advice how to earn more. Back in the day they just told us to work more lol like gee thanks
Im thinking that's a recommendation to work those hours to build a good customer base for new(er) models. I have no idea how long ppl have been camming.
I do remember models bitching about being forced to pull 90 hrs so I imagine I would've seen a big bitch moment somewhere online if that was increased.

am I understanding that you are you asking smsupport where is money or how much you should be making? You will get more realistic numbers from models but it all will vary. support will never answer a how much should I be earning question.
if asking about traffic they will say you can promote yourself if you are not happy, run more gold shows, never turn down a show, dont over block etc and in the past i was told geo blocking did have a impact on earnings.. I did read the geo blocking is more model friendly so maybe it doesn't impact money? idk how it really works, i never geo blocked.

Luckygoldfish
08-17-2021, 10:04 PM
the more hours you do work the more ppl you do have a chance at converting plus the regulars you do have and just let the members keep building up.
I can see support recommending to work full time hours if you are seeking advice how to earn more. Back in the day they just told us to work more lol like gee thanks
Im thinking that's a recommendation to work those hours to build a good customer base for new(er) models. I have no idea how long ppl have been camming.
I do remember models bitching about being forced to pull 90 hrs so I imagine I would've seen a big bitch moment somewhere online if that was increased.

am I understanding that you are you asking smsupport where is money or how much you should be making? You will get more realistic numbers from models but it all will vary. support will never answer a how much should I be earning question.
if asking about traffic they will say you can promote yourself if you are not happy, run more gold shows, never turn down a show, dont over block etc and in the past i was told geo blocking did have a impact on earnings.. I did read the geo blocking is more model friendly so maybe it doesn't impact money? idk how it really works, i never geo blocked.

Oh no I am not asking where is my money lol I am working for like 15 years I won’t ask such a silly question. I just know girls who do and I didn’t mean literally money they are asking about traffic yes but I am actually doing alright but I wanna see if I can do even better :) what I did notice when I did 160 hours they were no longer hours when they were “in and out” traffic was constant but that could be coincidence

Strawberryblonde
08-17-2021, 10:04 PM
Thank God, it worked. So, for anyone else that's having issues, Firefox is the fix! Thank you so much for giving me the tip! Good luck!

FF doesn't let me allocate my cameras, always ends up with built in camera.

I'm on a break for a few days, if I can't get on when I stream end of the week I'll just have to make content or use a different site. Likely content and the other hope SM sort this out.

If I can get on SM I'll be very happy.

anonamiss
08-17-2021, 10:51 PM
first time on in about two weeks... none of the free chat sounds are working. like when someone joins the room or sends a tip or requests a block or exclusive. silence.

but c2c audio (his microphone) in exclusive worked just fine. anyone else have this issue? i actually like hearing when someone enters free chat because it makes me pay attention. plus not hearing a tip unless i see it happen. not having that sound is seriously throwing me off.

euro_princess
08-18-2021, 12:40 AM
Never heard of the 160h and I doubt SM is going the LJ route. LJ does indeed require that many hours for placement and traffic, which is a bit too much, but not my business.

I don’t understand why they would be asking for 25h/bonus if they wanted 40h in the end.

Correlation does not imply causation. While more hours might be beneficial if you manage to keep your billing/h, I would rather work less and have a higher pay. Billing has always kept me account grounded, more than time online.

Luckygoldfish
08-18-2021, 12:59 AM
Never heard of the 160h and I doubt SM is going the LJ route. LJ does indeed require that many hours for placement and traffic, which is a bit too much, but not my business.

I don’t understand why they would be asking for 25h/bonus if they wanted 40h in the end.

Correlation does not imply causation. While more hours might be beneficial if you manage to keep your billing/h, I would rather work less and have a higher pay. Billing has always kept me account grounded, more than time online.

I messaged Liz. Will let you know. Well that’s what they say “we recommend streaming no less than 160” it’s not like I would lie what’s the point in there for me? Lol

euro_princess
08-18-2021, 01:25 AM
The point was that model support is not always the best on SM. I’ve got some shitty answers in the past, so I always take it with a grain of salt if it doesn’t come from a SM representative or newsletter (info on the website).

Luckygoldfish
08-18-2021, 01:34 AM
The point was that model support is not always the best on SM. I’ve got some shitty answers in the past, so I always take it with a grain of salt if it doesn’t come from a SM representative or newsletter (info on the website).

Ah ok , good point
We shall wait for an answer from Liz.
I don’t normally message general support anyway I am just letting you know what they told to multiple girls who were complaining about traffic + my personal observation (which could be wrong)
Let’s see
I hope you are right lol

roseforarose
08-18-2021, 02:24 AM
To be honest I never had a problem with earnings going down when i streamed on hotel wifi....I just feel like everything is struggling when my other half is gaming and i'm streaming. I just want to have one less thing to blame for when my earnings are not what i want. I've been saying for a year or so that I never make any money streaming 6-8 UK time and yet I've just logged on and made over a hundred in 90 mins. It's 90% attitude!!

6-8 UK time has been one of my best slots the past few weeks, it's great unless it's Friday! Should would recommend haha

JustMilfnAround
08-18-2021, 09:19 AM
This face verification thing is completely fucking me up. I took yesterday off thinking surely they would have fixed it but NO. I don't even get unresponsive pages, it SHUTS DOWN MY WHOLE COMPUTER! I've tried it over 20 times, different browsers, settings, etc,.... Got bills to pay MF'ers!!!

JustMilfnAround
08-18-2021, 09:41 AM
This face verification thing is completely fucking me up. I took yesterday off thinking surely they would have fixed it but NO. I don't even get unresponsive pages, it SHUTS DOWN MY WHOLE COMPUTER! I've tried it over 20 times, different browsers, settings, etc,.... Got bills to pay MF'ers!!!

I have sent in 2 support tickets but they don't have a phone number for model support?! WTAF? Models can't talk to a human but the customers can???? Wow.

liquidsilk
08-18-2021, 09:47 AM
I have sent in 2 support tickets but they don't have a phone number for model support?! WTAF? Models can't talk to a human but the customers can???? Wow.


I've used live customer chat a few times and it does work for problems that they agree are worthy. I doubt they will be able to do anything faster than tech support though. I use OBS/c920/chrome/windows and it is almost instant. Maybe try running an external encoder or the web encoder if you already are. There must be a reason why it works for some and not others so sharing specs here might help to crowd source information to find the common problem.

euro_princess
08-18-2021, 09:50 AM
Worked fine for me yesterday. Using Chrome (make sure is updated), SMC, Logitech Brio and Windows 10. It does freeze for a few seconds, but nothing major.

kikixxxx
08-18-2021, 09:58 AM
6-8 UK time has been one of my best slots the past few weeks, it's great unless it's Friday! Should would recommend haha
Is this am or pm?? X

JustMilfnAround
08-18-2021, 10:00 AM
I've used live customer chat a few times and it does work for problems that they agree are worthy. I doubt they will be able to do anything faster than tech support though. I use OBS/c920/chrome/windows and it is almost instant. Maybe try running an external encoder or the web encoder if you already are. There must be a reason why it works for some and not others so sharing specs here might help to crowd source information to find the common problem.

Sat in the live chat box for 30 minutes without a response. Thank you for the suggestions! I appreciate the help! I also tried the external encoder and it just locks up the page but doesn't shut down my laptop luckily. I literally have NO WAY to stream and this is my only decent source of income right now...... >:(

JustMilfnAround
08-18-2021, 10:04 AM
Worked fine for me yesterday. Using Chrome (make sure is updated), SMC, Logitech Brio and Windows 10. It does freeze for a few seconds, but nothing major.

I'm on a Mac - so I'm sure there is a workaround SOMEWHERE but getting anyone from Streamate to actually HELP me is like screaming into an empty cavern..

VVV
08-18-2021, 10:44 AM
Worked fine for me yesterday. Using Chrome (make sure is updated), SMC, Logitech Brio and Windows 10. It does freeze for a few seconds, but nothing major.

I don't understand what is actually is this as no yet come out for me? It's a credit cards ... all over the world or just usa? It looks tricky lol