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gbjenna
10-12-2021, 04:54 PM
I wouldn't worry about what they're showing on their cam too much...it's not being streamed on the site. We're the only ones viewing that (and Streamate can access it as well I'm guessing). They don't have to cover for what our eyes see, just what the site is streaming.
OK fab, thank you!
misspandora
10-12-2021, 04:57 PM
I'm trying to log in for the first time in a week. First off, I'm annoyed because they made me resubmit my documents TWICE.
Now, I'm annoyed because I can't log on. I go through the stupid "scan" thing, it tells me I can stream, then when I click on "Start Show",I get:
ERROR. Streamate cannot connect. Please check your connection and retry."
My connection is fine. My wifi is super fast.
Any suggestions?
littleprincessbella
10-12-2021, 05:08 PM
Now this makes more sense after I read the part where you can upload to your video store
Hey what are you guys using for converting the video to a sellable format
Erika_Xstacy
10-12-2021, 08:02 PM
I think i just had the dumbest mfr in the world
I dont think he was troll bc the show was long but in the beginning he asked me to turn my cam towards him and I said no he said oh ok
a few secs later i ask why he wanted me to turn my camera to his..
this poor soul said so you can see me?
lol i could only see his eyeballs and forehead lool and thought Does your forehead not see me looking at you?
~Carmen~
10-12-2021, 08:13 PM
I think i just had the dumbest mfr in the world
I dont think he was troll bc the show was long but in the beginning he asked me to turn my cam towards him and I said no he said oh ok
a few secs later i ask why he wanted me to turn my camera to his..
this poor soul said so you can see me?
lol i could only see his eyeballs and forehead lool and thought Does your forehead not see me looking at you?
At least you saw part of him. Sometimes I only see their ceiling or wall. I have to ask them to spin their camera around, please. haha
Erika_Xstacy
10-12-2021, 08:36 PM
Hey what are you guys using for converting the video to a sellable format
https://handbrake.fr/
Strawberryblonde
10-12-2021, 09:58 PM
I'm trying to log in for the first time in a week. First off, I'm annoyed because they made me resubmit my documents TWICE.
Now, I'm annoyed because I can't log on. I go through the stupid "scan" thing, it tells me I can stream, then when I click on "Start Show",I get:
ERROR. Streamate cannot connect. Please check your connection and retry."
My connection is fine. My wifi is super fast.
Any suggestions?
This is a message I see if the site is having problems, or for some unknown reason I just cannot connect. I just try again a few times, often connects if not check twitter and forums for info on outages.
littleprincessbella
10-12-2021, 10:21 PM
Thank you love
Ambercat
10-12-2021, 11:09 PM
I think i just had the dumbest mfr in the world
I dont think he was troll bc the show was long but in the beginning he asked me to turn my cam towards him and I said no he said oh ok
a few secs later i ask why he wanted me to turn my camera to his..
this poor soul said so you can see me?
lol i could only see his eyeballs and forehead lool and thought Does your forehead not see me looking at you?
Just waking up and catching up on my reading. Imagining you dealing with this guy without out and out explaining to him how dumb he is. I'm dying.
DeliveryLadyx
10-13-2021, 12:12 AM
I am wondering if any of you encounters a freezing and cpu shooting to 100% after an hour of streamate at 1080p? Is driving me bonkers, I get that at 4k and 2k and I accept is Streamate's fault because some of you said you get the same by streaming in 2k and 4k. But yesterday I did stream mainly in 1080p in 30fps with no other software in background and only Streamate as I am exclusive and if in the past used to be at 35% constantly yesterday it was going up to 100% and couldn't open any tab on sm dashboard. Is Streamate or my processor is getting fucked up? Doesn't make any sense, it was perfectly fine and is just 1 website. My specs are i5 10 gen intel with 6gb dedicated Nvidia graphics card and 32 gb RAM and is an omen desktop. I appreciate any input if you see the same cpu 100% at 1080p resolution. An i9 processor to replace my i5 is very expensive and very scarce to find, such demand now and with my finance in tatters am not sure I want to invest so much money again for Streamate.
Sunnylexie
10-13-2021, 12:13 AM
Do you have to use OBS to use the filters? I heard streaming from an external encoder isn't good for your placement.... is that true?
You can use OBS not as an external encoder but as a virtual cam/splitter, the newest versions have the function. It won't affect your placement. Update it and the OBS virtual cam will appear on your cameras list in the stream settings. You'll still be able to use filters.
I am wondering if any of you encounters a freezing and cpu shooting to 100% after an hour of streamate at 1080p? Is driving me bonkers, I get that at 4k and 2k and I accept is Streamate's fault because some of you said you get the same by streaming in 2k and 4k. But yesterday I did stream mainly in 1080p in 30fps with no other software in background and only Streamate as I am exclusive and if in the past used to be at 35% constantly yesterday it was going up to 100% and couldn't open any tab on sm dashboard. Is Streamate or my processor is getting fucked up? Doesn't make any sense, it was perfectly fine and is just 1 website. My specs are i5 10 gen intel with 6gb dedicated Nvidia graphics card and 32 gb RAM and is an omen desktop. I appreciate any input if you see the same cpu 100% at 1080p resolution. An i9 processor to replace my i5 is very expensive and very scarce to find, such demand now and with my finance in tatters am not sure I want to invest so much money again for Streamate.
I am. Streaming in 1080 mostly and still getting lags after 3 hours. Mine are i7 and 16 GB. I take breaks after 3 hours anyway so I just shut the camera down and refresh the page. That seems to work.
Sunnylexie
10-13-2021, 12:33 AM
I wanted to share this for the sakes of everyones account: this was posted on my studio dashboard
Streamate Warning - We've had multiple models that now have permanent bans on the site. Never, and we do mean NEVER show any other screens containing anyone else but you to a client - not even himself. Do not comply with any client request to view another cam (even their own), porn/videos, or even pictures of people/animals and display them on your stream. Do not comply with any request to point your camera towards a public area. It does not matter if it's in exclusive chat. Streamate has an automatic system to detect this now and it will be caught immediately. We cannot fix this going forward.
Does it mean we can't have people or animal posters or figurines in the room? That would SUCK(((.
Hey what are you guys using for converting the video to a sellable format
I use VLC, it can convert videos.
SuperPookie
10-13-2021, 01:11 AM
I wanted to share this for the sakes of everyones account: this was posted on my studio dashboard
Streamate Warning - We've had multiple models that now have permanent bans on the site. Never, and we do mean NEVER show any other screens containing anyone else but you to a client - not even himself. Do not comply with any client request to view another cam (even their own), porn/videos, or even pictures of people/animals and display them on your stream. Do not comply with any request to point your camera towards a public area. It does not matter if it's in exclusive chat. Streamate has an automatic system to detect this now and it will be caught immediately. We cannot fix this going forward. So does this mean only that we can't show it on our end or that it cant be done on their end either? I get guys who want to watch porn or show me pics on their stream. Is this acceptable?
DeliveryLadyx
10-13-2021, 01:24 AM
So does this mean only that we can't show it on our end or that it cant be done on their end either? I get guys who want to watch porn or show me pics on their stream. Is this acceptable?
To my knowledge, the rule is only for you as a streamer. Doesn't matter what the customer streams, if is him or anyone else or whatever. The rule is only for the performer to appear on the stream, no static or moving picture of anything else. Let's say you are wearing a t-shirt with Che Guevara face on your t-shirt or any other celebrity or other random figure, you cannot do that, sm will ban you instantly with this new rule. Only you and your face live and that's all.
SuperPookie
10-13-2021, 02:34 AM
To my knowledge, the rule is only for you as a streamer. Doesn't matter what the customer streams, if is him or anyone else or whatever. The rule is only for the performer to appear on the stream, no static or moving picture of anything else. Let's say you are wearing a t-shirt with Che Guevara face on your t-shirt or any other celebrity or other random figure, you cannot do that, sm will ban you instantly with this new rule. Only you and your face live and that's all.
Dafuq ! So no band shirts or anything? That would be some shit-get my account banned because of my Slayer t-shirt smh.
DeliveryLadyx
10-13-2021, 02:50 AM
That is how I interpret the rule, maybe is an exaggeration, but best is to ask Liz or Streamate support. My understanding is just, only and only my face on live stream...
Strawberryblonde
10-13-2021, 03:02 AM
What about minatures for Giantess fetish?
DeliveryLadyx
10-13-2021, 03:05 AM
What about minatures for Giantess fetish?
No clue.... Maybe ask Liz or Cristina?
Strawberryblonde
10-13-2021, 03:17 AM
No clue.... Maybe ask Liz or Cristina?
Email sent between both our posts.
liquidsilk
10-13-2021, 03:39 AM
About masspay:
Can anyone let me know the exchange rate and transaction fee is? And any other fees in a worked example going from Streamate to a UK bank please :)
I found this on their site but no actual figures:
You may request to receive funds that are reflected in your Digital Account in a different currency only at the time of and in connection with your requested Payout via a Payout Method. If you request a Payout in a currency different from the currency in which your Digital Account was funded, the exchange rate, which will include a transaction fee, will be determined at the time your transaction is processed and deducted from the amount transferred. The fees and currency rate applicable to your transaction will be provided to you in the Digital Account when you initiate your transaction.
Sunnylexie
10-13-2021, 04:09 AM
Dafuq ! So no band shirts or anything? That would be some shit-get my account banned because of my Slayer t-shirt smh.
I once had a skull on a poster recognized as a face during verification (didn't get in trouble of any kind for it, though). So if it really happens automatically, the worst outcome could be a character or animal tattoo (or something else you can't get rid of easily) getting recognized as an image of a person or an animal?
Ambercat
10-13-2021, 05:02 AM
Dafuq ! So no band shirts or anything? That would be some shit-get my account banned because of my Slayer t-shirt smh.
I would have thought no band t-shirts. Like if ur in the audience of a talk show they make you sign a model release for your permission but also you aren't allowed to wear branded clothing or logos that might be visible if the camera pans round. I guess if not in theory Slayer could sue and say they didn't give permission for their faces yo be used in porn. Probably SM just doing absolutely everything to cover themselves.
liquidsilk
10-13-2021, 05:22 AM
I would have thought no band t-shirts. Like if ur in the audience of a talk show they make you sign a model release for your permission but also you aren't allowed to wear branded clothing or logos that might be visible if the camera pans round. I guess if not in theory Slayer could sue and say they didn't give permission for their faces yo be used in porn. Probably SM just doing absolutely everything to cover themselves.
anyone else got a bad feeling about the future of streaming with music playing in the background? twitch streamers and youtubers get dmca strikes for like 5 seconds of a song and we are all just out here stripping live to bangers lmao.
We even have song request on the gold menu sheeeeesh. I have not got one hint of a clue how it flies that we have to use royalty free nintendo ass sounding songs in videos but can collect the $$ for broadcasting Beyonces latest drop if it is live?!
Ambercat
10-13-2021, 05:26 AM
I'd be gutted if our only option is the stuff they have in the playlist we are allowed on clips. I live for being able to play good tunes while I'm working.
liquidsilk
10-13-2021, 05:34 AM
What about minatures for Giantess fetish?
What about my collection of porn star replica dildos?:detective
Or a sex doll with a face?!
Sunnylexie
10-13-2021, 05:42 AM
I would have thought no band t-shirts. Like if ur in the audience of a talk show they make you sign a model release for your permission but also you aren't allowed to wear branded clothing or logos that might be visible if the camera pans round. I guess if not in theory Slayer could sue and say they didn't give permission for their faces yo be used in porn. Probably SM just doing absolutely everything to cover themselves.
There was a no branded content rule for the TV gold shows when they were a thing, so it's not that new. But I have no idea how we're supposed to add individuality to our rooms if the only decorations we're getting to use are fancy headboards, lamps and potted plants lol.
kinkydirtybitch
10-13-2021, 05:46 AM
They don't even allow the stuff they provide for clips on clips!
fetishqueen
10-13-2021, 05:46 AM
anyone else got a bad feeling about the future of streaming with music playing in the background? twitch streamers and youtubers get dmca strikes for like 5 seconds of a song and we are all just out here stripping live to bangers lmao.
We even have song request on the gold menu sheeeeesh. I have not got one hint of a clue how it flies that we have to use royalty free nintendo ass sounding songs in videos but can collect the $$ for broadcasting Beyonces latest drop if it is live?!
I've mentioned this before, I've never understood how it can be ok to stream with music playing, I don't know the rules but I've always streamed with no music just in case. Pretty sure SM have said it's ok to do but it's not their content or copyright. Surely the decision whether we can play it while we work belongs to whoever owns the copyright? That is not Streamate or any other cam site.
liquidsilk
10-13-2021, 05:50 AM
I've mentioned this before, I've never understood how it can be ok to stream with music playing, I don't know the rules but I've always streamed with no music just in case. Pretty sure SM have said it's ok to do but it's not their content or copyright. Surely the decision whether we can play it while we work belongs to whoever owns the copyright? That is not Streamate or any other cam site.
Yeah I think it gets extra complicated when we use song request on the gold menu....we are literally being paid to stream music. There was no mailshot to say only use royalty free music, and that wouldn't even make any sense because what is the customer supposed to request? 'please play me a generic pop tune which kind of sounds like doja cat but isn't'
gbjenna
10-13-2021, 07:37 AM
About masspay:
Can anyone let me know the exchange rate and transaction fee is? And any other fees in a worked example going from Streamate to a UK bank please :)
I found this on their site but no actual figures:
You may request to receive funds that are reflected in your Digital Account in a different currency only at the time of and in connection with your requested Payout via a Payout Method. If you request a Payout in a currency different from the currency in which your Digital Account was funded, the exchange rate, which will include a transaction fee, will be determined at the time your transaction is processed and deducted from the amount transferred. The fees and currency rate applicable to your transaction will be provided to you in the Digital Account when you initiate your transaction.
The exchange rate fluctuates and will differ depending on the bank, a bit like when you buy travel money I think, but the rates are different depending on where you go. The daily pay company paid me a bit less money than I was expecting a few times this past few days and it's because their banks exchange rate was different to what google was quoting.
I don't know if the transaction fee depends on this too though
liquidsilk
10-13-2021, 07:44 AM
The exchange rate fluctuates and will differ depending on the bank, a bit like when you buy travel money I think, but the rates are different depending on where you go. The daily pay company paid me a bit less money than I was expecting a few times this past few days and it's because their banks exchange rate was different to what google was quoting.
I don't know if the transaction fee depends on this too though
Yeah what i am trying to find out is the difference between the Masspay quoted rate and the mid market rate at the time when someone goes to do a conversion. See the bit that says "The fees and currency rate applicable to your transaction will be provided to you in the Digital Account when you initiate your transaction."
it seems like you have a USD balance, then they convert it and send GBP to your bank when you withdraw. So at this moment the fx rate is 0.733164 but if they are quoting like 0.701345 or something then that makes a big difference over time so I just want to know how much their quote varies from the mid market cause if it is a shit rate then it is not worth it when worldpay is a decent rate, even with the $25 wire fee. Someone on twitter said that it also charges $4 to withdraw to Canada on top of fx loss, but I haven't seen what the UK fee is.
Some are 0% to convert within your own account like revolut but all these 3rd party adult affiliated companies have a % difference from mid market but some are reasonable like 0.5% and if this one turns out to be fleecing us through bad conversion I'd like to know.
edit: I just found this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyhrbQynDBE so there are really that many banks, that's different!
redvelvette
10-13-2021, 09:45 AM
I'd be gutted if our only option is the stuff they have in the playlist we are allowed on clips. I live for being able to play good tunes while I'm working.
Jasmin has already been doing this for a while.
DeliveryLadyx
10-13-2021, 09:59 AM
I am wondering if any of you encounters a freezing and cpu shooting to 100% after an hour of streamate at 1080p? Is driving me bonkers, I get that at 4k and 2k and I accept is Streamate's fault because some of you said you get the same by streaming in 2k and 4k. But yesterday I did stream mainly in 1080p in 30fps with no other software in background and only Streamate as I am exclusive and if in the past used to be at 35% constantly yesterday it was going up to 100% and couldn't open any tab on sm dashboard. Is Streamate or my processor is getting fucked up? Doesn't make any sense, it was perfectly fine and is just 1 website. My specs are i5 10 gen intel with 6gb dedicated Nvidia graphics card and 32 gb RAM and is an omen desktop. I appreciate any input if you see the same cpu 100% at 1080p resolution. An i9 processor to replace my i5 is very expensive and very scarce to find, such demand now and with my finance in tatters am not sure I want to invest so much money again for Streamate.
Still repeating here if anyone is in the same situation, haven't been online today after all unfortunately and is just too late in the day now for me to go online and see if is still getting maximum cpu streaming in full hd only.
WhistlingDux
10-13-2021, 10:05 AM
my CPU and computer temp skyrocket (CPU goes from 24ish to over 50-70) and temp goes from 53 degrees to 82 degrees. Going to the home button, closing out of connect, and reconnecting again seems to bring things down again quickly though.
think it has something to do with the face verification software and them updating things in the broadcaster.
I have an i5 and internet is bad (10mbps down and 0.94mbps up) but it only. Streaming in 1080
Cutie101
10-13-2021, 10:07 AM
Jasmin has already been doing this for a while.
True, but they have everything covered. The music library has thousands of songs
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And you can directly play a song from the streaming software, make your own playlist, etc.
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I mean, I am sure Streamate will have to do something similar, before they ask for that.
But speaking of Jasmin, no one is respecting that rule and nothing happens, everyone still plays popular music. I have been actually thinking that this is a good way to have the videos taken down off the pirating sites, for free and without work, because the artists labels (or however you call it in english), are desperate to take anything down that contains their music ;D;D;D
kamiliam
10-13-2021, 10:09 AM
Yeah I think it gets extra complicated when we use song request on the gold menu....we are literally being paid to stream music. There was no mailshot to say only use royalty free music, and that wouldn't even make any sense because what is the customer supposed to request? 'please play me a generic pop tune which kind of sounds like doja cat but isn't'
SM may very well ban songs at some point but it has nothing to do with the MC regulations.
Marina Starr
10-13-2021, 10:14 AM
What about police siren as music?!
DeliveryLadyx
10-13-2021, 10:23 AM
my CPU and computer temp skyrocket (CPU goes from 24ish to over 50-70) and temp goes from 53 degrees to 82 degrees. Going to the home button, closing out of connect, and reconnecting again seems to bring things down again quickly though.
think it has something to do with the face verification software and them updating things in the broadcaster.
I have an i5 and internet is bad (10mbps down and 0.94mbps up) but it only. Streaming in 1080
Thank you! I was thinking what the hell...? My computer is really very up to date with tech despite of being i5 and for a single website is more than enough. How can you stream girl with 0.94 mbps up?! Amazing that!
AuroraJade
10-13-2021, 12:50 PM
SM may very well ban songs at some point but it has nothing to do with the MC regulations.
Yeah. Lets not stir the pot here and just let the subject be......
I got a Twitter DM from a guy from Camsharks trying to recruit me for their studio. He was quite.... rude actually? First all friendly and then telling me I am wasting my time with cam and OF because if you are not in the 0.01% you will only make 'lunch money'. What the hell dude?
I saw the msg when I woke up but I could not even respond because... he blocked me? What the hell? Why would I even be with a studio that starts shit talking me without even speaking with them before? Weird shit
SapphireXO
10-13-2021, 12:54 PM
I wanted to share this for the sakes of everyones account: this was posted on my studio dashboard
Streamate Warning - We've had multiple models that now have permanent bans on the site. Never, and we do mean NEVER show any other screens containing anyone else but you to a client - not even himself. Do not comply with any client request to view another cam (even their own), porn/videos, or even pictures of people/animals and display them on your stream. Do not comply with any request to point your camera towards a public area. It does not matter if it's in exclusive chat. Streamate has an automatic system to detect this now and it will be caught immediately. We cannot fix this going forward.
Anyone else feel like at any given time, you will be just banned from working SM? Oh a random customer said they found you on Twitter during your stream? YOU'RE BANNED! A random customer asks if you have OnlyFans and you ignore them. YOU'RE BANNED! Oh you flipped your cam around to show the customer's cam feed to prove that their cam is completely grainy (who consented to being on cam as it's a C2C show). YOU'RE BANNED! If your customer shows you a video or picture of himself being an ultimate sissy on his phone while you are on C2C. YOU'RE BANNED. If a customer disputes a charge over $100, which is totally out of your control, YOU'RE ACCOUNT IS SUSPENDED. If you have a TV screen with a multi-hour long background on it (fireplace/tranquil rain storm/outdoor landscape) and a YouTube ad just randomly plays, YOU'RE ACCOUNT is SUSPENDED. Even if you aren't a shady cam model, you are fucked. How can you win? Then all these secret contact support items. --> Want a pause button? Contact support. Want to change the vibe levels on your lush? Contact support. Want to be able to record your shows? Contact support. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Multiple models are saying they log into their accounts and then they can't stream without warning.
AuroraJade
10-13-2021, 01:06 PM
Me too. I am super afraid lol. Havent streamed in about a week and dreading tomorrow...
everythingiscake
10-13-2021, 01:47 PM
Anyone else feel like at any given time, you will be just banned from working SM? Oh a random customer said they found you on Twitter during your stream? YOU'RE BANNED! A random customer asks if you have OnlyFans and you ignore them. YOU'RE BANNED! Oh you flipped your cam around to show the customer's cam feed to prove that their cam is completely grainy (who consented to being on cam as it's a C2C show). YOU'RE BANNED! If your customer shows you a video or picture of himself being an ultimate sissy on his phone while you are on C2C. YOU'RE BANNED. If a customer disputes a charge over $100, which is totally out of your control, YOU'RE ACCOUNT IS SUSPENDED. If you have a TV screen with a multi-hour long background on it (fireplace/tranquil rain storm/outdoor landscape) and a YouTube ad just randomly plays, YOU'RE ACCOUNT is SUSPENDED. Even if you aren't a shady cam model, you are fucked. How can you win? Then all these secret contact support items. --> Want a pause button? Contact support. Want to change the vibe levels on your lush? Contact support. Want to be able to record your shows? Contact support. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Multiple models are saying they log into their accounts and then they can't stream without warning.
This seriously causes me undue stress on the daily, especially recently. You summed it up completely. I am trying to get more eggs in my basket but streamate is 95% of my income and I can't seem to find success elsewhere. I am very afraid I will lose my job and at times I can't log in to stream because of this fear. I have unknowingly broken rules because THEY NEVER SAID IT WAS A RULE!! I have anxiety over them deciding to ban me for something I did because the agreement we sign says things like "including but not limited to. . . etc etc" and is so fucking vague I hold my breath every time I sign in. The recent post from Boleyn models dashboard is more detailed than ANYTHING Liz or support or our terms of service has ever stated.
I am so stressed over it.
Esixxx
10-13-2021, 02:06 PM
....and there is a contest next week :/
SoloDesire
10-13-2021, 02:19 PM
....and there is a contest next week :/
Plan on another for Halloween...most likely a contest where they expect us to "dress up". What a joke.
Erika_Xstacy
10-13-2021, 02:22 PM
Plan on another for Halloween...most likely a contest where they expect us to "dress up". What a joke.
Dressing up annoys me.
Esixxx
10-13-2021, 02:33 PM
Dressing up annoys me.
I love dressing up for Halloween- on cam it usually doesn't go well. Years ago I dressed up as a Vulcan- did the full makeup- my nerdy regs where nowhere to be found.
SoloDesire
10-13-2021, 02:40 PM
I love dressing up for Halloween- on cam it usually doesn't go well. Years ago I dressed up as a Vulcan- did the full makeup- my nerdy regs where nowhere to be found.
Yeah, these losers never appreciate effort. I stopped dressing up after the first 2 years of Halloween contests. I don't participate in contests anyway so it never benefits me to dress up...I make less money if I do. I'll wear Halloween panties, but they only get to see those if they pay lol.
looklovely
10-13-2021, 02:40 PM
There's a regular who ONLY wants American Eagle Jeans-- average $13 with him. I said before if he wants the jeans he needs to do a block session, he refuses. Maybe I'm too strict, but not wroth me having to wash the jeans, technically aren't dirty. On the other hand, I made less than $13 an hour at my school job...Thoughts?
SoloDesire
10-13-2021, 02:41 PM
There's a regular who ONLY wants American Eagle Jeans-- average $13 with him. I said before if he wants the jeans he needs to do a block session, he refuses. Maybe I'm too strict, but not wroth me having to wash the jeans, technically aren't dirty. On the other hand, I made less than $13 an hour at my school job...Thoughts?
I'd make him tip if he wants them, then go Exclusive. I charge $50 for outfit changes.
Marina Starr
10-13-2021, 02:51 PM
I'm super excited! I plan on dressing up as myself for 2000th place and win BIG!
Plan on another for Halloween...most likely a contest where they expect us to "dress up". What a joke.