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looklovely
10-13-2021, 02:52 PM
I'd make him tip if he wants them, then go Exclusive. I charge $50 for outfit changes.

I only put them on while in Exclusive. He's a little annoying by sitting in free chat before going to exclusive and if it's slow I log off. Should I ask for $50 for the change?

SoloDesire
10-13-2021, 02:57 PM
I only put them on while in Exclusive. He's a little annoying by sitting in free chat before going to exclusive and if it's slow I log off. Should I ask for $50 for the change?

Charge what you want for the effort. That's what I charge...they have to tip it and then I'll change. If they want to see then they must go Exclusive...if they decide not to go Exclusive after I've changed then I just got $50 for changing and doing nothing else lol.

looklovely
10-13-2021, 03:30 PM
What is the average earnings for 1000th place? I've earned $650 and not ranked, but that's on average my earnings or WAY less for contests.

VerryBerry
10-13-2021, 03:47 PM
What is the average earnings for 1000th place? I've earned $650 and not ranked, but that's on average my earnings or WAY less for contests.

I’ve ranked top 60 with $1300 for a two day contest so I’m assuming at least $1500-$2000 to hit the chart for a week long contest? I could be wrong though.

WanderingW
10-13-2021, 03:49 PM
Costumes are so hard to get off and on for shows it is annoying. I find the days before Halloween are busy and the actual day dead.

~Carmen~
10-13-2021, 03:59 PM
I'm super excited! I plan on dressing up as myself for 2000th place and win BIG!

What are you gonna be sis? I know Halloween is your favorite holiday.

TheBrownFox
10-13-2021, 04:29 PM
I charge $50 for outfit changes.


Okay, cool. This sounds more like it. :) I had recently asked what models on token sites charge for outfit changes (Since this is apparently a tip menu item), and a couple models were telling me amounts of like 150 - 250 tokens. That felt really low to me, and I thought they'd tell me something like 400/500 tokens. Lol. I don't have a washer/dryer here, and have to walk somewhere to pay to do laundry once a week (Pain in the ass). Having to change out of what I'm currently wearing (and possibly already sweated in) because some dude wants to see me in this or that is kind of a nuisance. :P

Marina Starr
10-13-2021, 05:01 PM
I'll be a Batshit Crazy Hoe! All tricks, no treats!


What are you gonna be sis? I know Halloween is your favorite holiday.

Ambercat
10-13-2021, 05:12 PM
I’ve ranked top 60 with $1300 for a two day contest so I’m assuming at least $1500-$2000 to hit the chart for a week long contest? I could be wrong though.

I've not tried a top 1000 contest for about a year now but got close to top 300 with $1600 in the week. Below top 200 a couple of dollars can move you several spaces but above top 200 it's a pretty steep climb, I've seen people before saying close to 10k to be in the top 10.

VerryBerry
10-13-2021, 05:38 PM
I've not tried a top 1000 contest for about a year now but got close to top 300 with $1600 in the week. Below top 200 a couple of dollars can move you several spaces but above top 200 it's a pretty steep climb, I've seen people before saying close to 10k to be in the top 10.

Holy crap I knew they made good money but I didn’t think it’d be that hard to get top ten! Wow! Major inspo!!!

lula_xoxox
10-13-2021, 05:42 PM
woah is it just me or is it dead tonight?? to the point where i'm convinced something's up with the site or my stream?

KittenGirl
10-13-2021, 05:48 PM
I love dressing up for Halloween- on cam it usually doesn't go well. Years ago I dressed up as a Vulcan- did the full makeup- my nerdy regs where nowhere to be found.

One time I tried to get dolled up for Easter. I dressed up as a sexy bunny and put those plastic eggs in a basket by me and every egg had a note in it like "99 cent per minute exclusive" or "free photo set" or whatever. They were $5 EACH. FIVE. FUCKING. DOLLARS.

I streamed for 5 hours to a room full of cheapskates and not one person bought an egg. I spent 2 hours getting all dressed up and ready and spent money on the items and bunny ears.

Men never fucking appreciate anything we do.

KittenGirl
10-13-2021, 05:50 PM
i'm super excited! I plan on dressing up as myself for 2000th place and win big!

omg girl i can't stop laughing haha haha!!

KittenGirl
10-13-2021, 05:53 PM
There's a regular who ONLY wants American Eagle Jeans-- average $13 with him. I said before if he wants the jeans he needs to do a block session, he refuses. Maybe I'm too strict, but not wroth me having to wash the jeans, technically aren't dirty. On the other hand, I made less than $13 an hour at my school job...Thoughts?

For me it depends on your rate. Like if you're earning $13 in a three minute show that's awesome.

I don't do anything like that anymore. It wears me out. Guys that ask for oil, outfit changes or anything that requires me to put in non-session work i don't do. I'm not gonna spend time changing again or washing oil off my body if I ain't getting paid for it.

I also refuse to do anal anymore. I don't ride dildos or fuck hard anymore either. I gotta last on cam and their fucking $5 bill ain't worth me being exhausted the rest of the shift

minibagel
10-13-2021, 06:52 PM
woah is it just me or is it dead tonight?? to the point where i'm convinced something's up with the site or my stream?

not just you. SM really knows how to kill my morale in just minutes, earlier tonight it took just three & i was already over it lol but still tortured myself by staying online for 30 mins. trying again later...

Sunnylexie
10-13-2021, 11:03 PM
WHAT a WEEK LONG CONTEST and NOT even the 25 hour bonus? Well this is just mean to anyone making less than 300 a day. What they're winning is super hard time making their damn living I guess =/.

DeliveryLadyx
10-14-2021, 01:43 AM
Only chancers and bottom of the barrel traffic this morning..... Thursday eh?

edit= very strange, after 2 hours someone taken me exclusive, i accepted, suddenly no one in free or exclu and only after 25 seconds the name appeared on screen. he tried texting, didn't appear, told him to buzz to know if he's there. in the end his text appeared and said he tried c2c but no pop up appeared on my screen. and i get loads of in and outs. anyone else?

Seductive_Brit
10-14-2021, 05:59 AM
^^^ How good that sounds, like official type of message, nice one! I'll save it too for the guys that insists and did not see the flag, problem is, with my new real location nobody asks to meet lol.


This is actually really good. I'm gonna save this so it looks more like an automated message from the site


Glad you guys found it helpful! Yes I find the more official it looks the less likely they are to try to argue with it. Works every time, some of them even apologise lol.

Seductive_Brit
10-14-2021, 06:32 AM
Heads-up for a total asshole alert. I never knew we could report members until I started really reading this forum.

Be on a watch for Lucifer. He came in and told me I was hot then started calling me a beached whale. He started telling everyone how fat I was. I kept ignoring him and it just got worse. So I reported him and blocked him.

I'm so sorry this happened to you hun. Think how much you must hate yourself to go insulting random people on the internet. Good you blocked him. You are glorious!


Ladies beware of a customer called Quentin the King (all one word) or maybe even variations of the name too.

He tipped a large amount of money into a gold show the other day and I ran the account by support to check all was ok. Then later that night he came back again and tipped a really excessive amount. I had a bad feeling so emailed one of the reps and she got back to me today and confirmed that he wasn't a legitimate customer.

I've been told the customer has been banned from the site now, but the first time I reported, support got back to me within minutes to say they'd investigate, so I don't know what action was taken initially but regardless, he was able to come back.

If anyone comes across him I'd just block him straight away!

Thanks for the heads up! Just glad we are fairly protected by Streamate as others have said

briannebanksxo
10-14-2021, 07:01 AM
My bitrate was trash this morning. At first I thought it was just me but even top ranking girls seem to have grainy, blurry feeds.

gbjenna
10-14-2021, 07:15 AM
Should we assume this is the same rule for customers during c2c too?

If so, let’s say they show a picture or video, porn for example or they’re outside or something, should we just close their cam or should we be ending the show completely?
Obviously there’s situations where common sense is required

Just incase anyone wants to know, I emailed Cristina about this as I wanted confirmation on this just for the sake of having my back covered.

Customers are held to the same rules and we can be held accountable if we don't end a show and report a customer who shows a photo or video of someone else, porn, cams in a public space etc as we may appear complicit.

MissAdriana
10-14-2021, 07:24 AM
Customers are held to the same rules and we can be held accountable if we don't end a show and report a customer who shows a photo or video of someone else, porn, cams in a public space etc as we may appear complicit.

So how do we handle shows with cam2cam couples? Just deny them now since it's 2 people on the account?


I'm super excited! I plan on dressing up as myself for 2000th place and win BIG!

This needs to be a banner in my signature. Oh wait I wouldn't even make top 2000 LOL

I took at least...5? days off from sm during the last contest. Thank God I don't rely on SM for my bills or I'd be screwed. Looks like I'll be taking off another 6 next week. This feels like torture. Why would I login? I know it sounds defeated but I'm not the top 1000, I never have been - so why bother struggling to make half of what I make on a non contest day? I'll just work more hours on the non contest days and make more money.

It must make SM *a lotta muneeee* to do this or they wouldn't continue doing it...which just makes me think even worse of myself

I was looking forward to next week.. I had so many thing planned. Never mind

Erika_Xstacy
10-14-2021, 07:35 AM
Xbiz had noted that we have to be monitored live
I interpret that as someone is constantly watching our stream or the software is recording and will be reviewed by human eyeballs
That’s a lot of streams to go through but if we act like we are doing a producer show, everything will be fine

Where did the 100 chargeback equals suspension come from? I’ve not found that anywhere and never been suspended for a large chargeback. I heard of models that have been suspended for fraud chargebacks on their part.. the model knew about it.

I don’t hear about other sites doing this Once again SM proves to be the top camsite about caring about keeping us going.
I do need to Log in other sites and check my status

gbjenna
10-14-2021, 07:41 AM
So how do we handle shows with cam2cam couples? Just deny them now since it's 2 people on the account?


Well I'd assume that since the other half is there and willingly on camera, then it would be OK? I'm guessing that the issue is if they don't or can't consent to being streamed, which they can't, if photos or videos of them are being shared via the customers their camera. Obviously it's different for us as we're working for the site. Maybe it's worth asking for confirmation. I've never had a couple on cam2cam.

Erika_Xstacy
10-14-2021, 07:44 AM
So how do we handle shows with cam2cam couples? Just deny them now since it's 2 people on the account?



This needs to be a banner in my signature. Oh wait I wouldn't even make top 2000 LOL

I took at least...5? days off from sm during the last contest. Thank God I don't rely on SM for my bills or I'd be screwed. Looks like I'll be taking off another 6 next week. This feels like torture. Why would I login? I know it sounds defeated but I'm not the top 1000, I never have been - so why bother struggling to make half of what I make on a non contest day? I'll just work more hours on the non contest days and make more money.

It must make SM *a lotta muneeee* to do this or they wouldn't continue doing it...which just makes me think even worse of myself

I was looking forward to next week.. I had so many thing planned. Never mind

I Log on and act like there is no contest
if I place, cool, if not that’s cool too
I’m not running myself ragged for a gig that is suppose to be fun and free
If I only make 200 bucks for the week, that’s a whole bill, it’s 200 more than I had
It’s super hard to put a positive spin on these contest but don’t let them keep you from making money for you.

That’s how I look at it

JustMilfnAround
10-14-2021, 07:52 AM
Glad you guys found it helpful! Yes I find the more official it looks the less likely they are to try to argue with it. Works every time, some of them even apologise lol.

I use this and it works like a charm - thank you for sharing it! I have also gotten a few apologies from it LOL :)

izshadow
10-14-2021, 08:35 AM
SM just went down

KarinaGiselle
10-14-2021, 08:37 AM
Same for me

Marina Starr
10-14-2021, 08:45 AM
It is down and I'm getting the username/password incorrect. Please do not change anything. It's a glitch.

emkato
10-14-2021, 08:48 AM
I personally am able to stream. this glitch is happening a lot lately, huh

Seductive_Brit
10-14-2021, 09:45 AM
I'm trying to log in for the first time in a week. First off, I'm annoyed because they made me resubmit my documents TWICE.

Now, I'm annoyed because I can't log on. I go through the stupid "scan" thing, it tells me I can stream, then when I click on "Start Show",I get:

ERROR. Streamate cannot connect. Please check your connection and retry."

My connection is fine. My wifi is super fast.

Any suggestions?


Hey hun, I had that too, I know it sounds weird but go into settings, reselect everything on that page (so webcam and audio). Then save then try again. It worked for me, it's worth a try

MsJess
10-14-2021, 10:15 AM
Anyone else feel like at any given time, you will be just banned from working SM? Oh a random customer said they found you on Twitter during your stream? YOU'RE BANNED! A random customer asks if you have OnlyFans and you ignore them. YOU'RE BANNED! Oh you flipped your cam around to show the customer's cam feed to prove that their cam is completely grainy (who consented to being on cam as it's a C2C show). YOU'RE BANNED! If your customer shows you a video or picture of himself being an ultimate sissy on his phone while you are on C2C. YOU'RE BANNED. If a customer disputes a charge over $100, which is totally out of your control, YOU'RE ACCOUNT IS SUSPENDED. If you have a TV screen with a multi-hour long background on it (fireplace/tranquil rain storm/outdoor landscape) and a YouTube ad just randomly plays, YOU'RE ACCOUNT is SUSPENDED. Even if you aren't a shady cam model, you are fucked. How can you win? Then all these secret contact support items. --> Want a pause button? Contact support. Want to change the vibe levels on your lush? Contact support. Want to be able to record your shows? Contact support. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Multiple models are saying they log into their accounts and then they can't stream without warning.

Everyday since a few days a go lol, i click on log in and cross my fingers that i am not deleted LOL not that i don't play by the rules but there are certain things i can't control on the user's end, so hmmm this causes me anxiety.

MsJess
10-14-2021, 10:22 AM
So does this mean only that we can't show it on our end or that it cant be done on their end either? I get guys who want to watch porn or show me pics on their stream. Is this acceptable?

they can show whatever they want on their end, I personally ban those who show me gross stuff, but i guess is just us who have to be careful

roseforarose
10-14-2021, 10:41 AM
Customers are held to the same rules and we can be held accountable if we don't end a show and report a customer who shows a photo or video of someone else, porn, cams in a public space etc as we may appear complicit.

Well...that loses me several regulars then. How the hell are we being held responsible for OTHER people's actions?? I'm just gunna shut my mouth and hope these guys don't get banned either of us lol, I need their money :/

izshadow
10-14-2021, 11:17 AM
Well...that loses me several regulars then. How the hell are we being held responsible for OTHER people's actions?? I'm just gunna shut my mouth and hope these guys don't get banned either of us lol, I need their money :/

This is also a lot of work on our end for free. We should never be held responsible for their actions. We are not their parents.

gbjenna
10-14-2021, 11:29 AM
I don't think she was saying that we're literally responsible for their actions. I think she was saying that if they do something that is against the rules, and we let them crack on and go along with it, then we may be complicit to it. No different to when customers ask us for our social media or to perform acts that are against the rules, if we go along with it cause they ask, we'd probably get into trouble. It's up to us to refuse it and show we aren't encouraging it or involved.

That's how I took it anyway.

Lexilexxx
10-14-2021, 01:17 PM
Hi ladies :-) Here's a video that helps with Anxiety/Relaxation. So you can be in top condition. This truly works and you even play it in the background, while sleeping or putting on make up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4fcZpTx36_0

bobsandvangene
10-14-2021, 01:58 PM
Is it dead for anyone else this week? Feels like such a slog, periods of time with no traffic in the room etc

looklovely
10-14-2021, 02:13 PM
I've not tried a top 1000 contest for about a year now but got close to top 300 with $1600 in the week. Below top 200 a couple of dollars can move you several spaces but above top 200 it's a pretty steep climb, I've seen people before saying close to 10k to be in the top 10.

I rarely make over $800 for the week. I suck.

emkato
10-14-2021, 02:42 PM
I rarely make over $800 for the week. I suck.

I promise I suck worse. I used to make a lot more than I do now. It has affected my depression and anxiety in unimaginable ways. I haven't been able to make $800 in a week for a while. Prob embarrassing to admit and I am sure me saying so will make others feel much better about their "bad" days lol, but I keep myself anonymous on here so I guess its ok to admit that I truly suck in comparison to all of you ladies :'''')

looklovely
10-14-2021, 02:45 PM
I promise I suck worse. I used to make a lot more than I do now. It has affected my depression and anxiety in unimaginable ways. I haven't been able to make $800 in a week for a long, loooooong time. Prob embarrassing to admit and I am sure me saying so will make others feel much better about their "bad" days lol, but I keep myself anonymous on here so I guess its ok to admit that I truly suck in comparison to all of you ladies :'''')

I suffer from depression/anxiety as well. I admire your ability to keep strong/going. I stay anonymous here also because I post customer names. Feel free to reach out via DM, if you need a shoulder to cry on or an ear to vent to.

emkato
10-14-2021, 02:49 PM
I suffer from depression/anxiety as well. I admire your ability to keep strong/going. I stay anonymous here also because I post customer names. Feel free to reach out via DM, if you need a shoulder to cry on or an ear to vent to.

ty <3 It sucks because I know what I am capable of earning, but SM is giving me scraps. Just an overall depressing vibe to work with.

looklovely
10-14-2021, 02:51 PM
ty <3 It sucks because I know what I am capable of earning, but SM is giving me scraps. Just an overall depressing vibe to work with.

Have you tried other platforms? Sometimes the chump change adds up.

emkato
10-14-2021, 02:56 PM
Have you tried other platforms? Sometimes the chump change adds up.

DM'd u <3

kamiliam
10-14-2021, 03:08 PM
If they are making us monitor customers cameras for infractions (not our actions, which we know the rules on)they legally have to let the customers know the terms and conditions such as no unauthorized people.

I don’t even like couples shows but when I get them I often don’t know before hand. If I am expected to kick these people out just for that? fine, just tell me. Then also inform your customers what rule they violated and/or make them check some boxes too before they load their cam. seems to me kicking them out in droves might increase chargebacks? But who knows…

I am a rule follower goody goody sometimes to my detriment, so I will do what they want, I just would like clarity, and a legally informed client base.

Erika_Xstacy
10-14-2021, 03:17 PM
If they are making us monitor customers cameras for infractions (not our actions, which we know the rules on)they legally have to let the customers know the terms and conditions such as no unauthorized people.

I don’t even like couples shows but when I get them I often don’t know before hand. If I am expected to kick these people out just for that? fine, just tell me. Then also inform your customers what rule they violated and/or make them check some boxes too before they load their cam. seems to me kicking them out in droves might increase chargebacks? But who knows…

I am a rule follower goody goody sometimes to my detriment, so I will do what they want, I just would like clarity, and a legally informed client base.
I am under the impression customers are warned before going private?
customers think bc its on their end that it is ok and we should code back the answer as if that is not obvious either

a customer wanted to watch my porn scenes today and bc i couldn't prove to him I would be watching it and i could not increase the volume
I hate saying "no" so many on times on cam, that is the annoying part. I'm a "no girl" now :) yay "rolls eye"
i have had off the wall, out of left field requests last week and this week

looklovely
10-14-2021, 03:22 PM
I am under the impression customers are warned before going private?
customers think bc its on their end that it is ok and we should code back the answer as if that is not obvious either

a customer wanted to watch my porn scenes today and bc i couldn't prove to him I would be watching it and i could not increase the volume
I hate saying "no" so many on times on cam, that is the annoying part. I'm a "no girl" now :) yay "rolls eye"
i have had off the wall, out of left field requests last week and this week

Unsure if the rules have changed, but I had a private where I was showed my monitor watching porn (requested). The video was approved for sale. Can we not watch T.V. either in the background?

kamiliam
10-14-2021, 03:23 PM
I am under the impression customers are warned before going private?
customers think bc its on their end that it is ok and we should code back the answer as if that is not obvious either

a customer wanted to watch my porn scenes today and bc i couldn't prove to him I would be watching it and i could not increase the volume
I hate saying "no" so many on times on cam, that is the annoying part. I'm a "no girl" now :) yay "rolls eye"
i have had off the wall, out of left field requests last week and this week


I have my doubts about what kind of warning it could be. If it exists? Some of these dudes have cam requests loading the second they go into a show…

And yeah feel like I am being baited by some of the nonsense I have witnessed this week.

Erika_Xstacy
10-14-2021, 03:42 PM
Unsure if the rules have changed, but I had a private where I was showed my monitor watching porn (requested). The video was approved for sale. Can we not watch T.V. either in the background?
We cant show other people but for good measure was not using sound bc its sexual, other performers involved just too sticky to even play with.
I play music all the time.


I have my doubts about what kind of warning it could be. If it exists? Some of these dudes have cam requests loading the second they go into a show…

And yeah feel like I am being baited by some of the nonsense I have witnessed this week.

I will go back and see if I can find the post here bc I think it says customers get a pop up box.

looklovely
10-14-2021, 04:27 PM
We cant show other people but for good measure was not using sound bc its sexual, other performers involved just too sticky to even play with.
I play music all the time.



I will go back and see if I can find the post here bc I think it says customers get a pop up box.

What does the customer see when you KICK them? I'm tempted to make a customer account just to see.