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Miss_ShaSha
11-04-2021, 08:47 AM
I asked Liz about it a year ago and she said it is a "grey" area and she recommends not doing it at all.

Interesting as Liz said "step" is fine, but must emphasize "step" and no underage. I do step-mom a lot and say things like "have you been doing well in College?"

Miss_ShaSha
11-04-2021, 08:49 AM
site placement is still busted i see. was on late last night and traffic was the usual hot/cold but with a LOT more totally cold periods (0 ppl entering). i'm talking 90+ seconds of blackout radio silence. sometimes i can't even find myself in the first 3 pages and i am so not looking beyond page 3. i was even rock bottom of my ethnicity and normally i am first spot. busted.

why does SM think this is okay? any other major platform would have fixed all their ongoing issues by now: room topic, tags, etc. they haven't even officially addressed them lol dafuq. /endrant

Yup, placement has been weird. I'm higher up and around where I should be (hourly has gone way up), but some top row ladies are showing up like rows 5 or 9 on page 1. Very, very odd.

I'm not gonna complain tho cause I've been making more money on avg the last 3 weeks. Shit, it's about time I had a fuckin break even if it's cause SM is broken lolollll.

minibagel
11-04-2021, 08:58 AM
Yup, placement has been weird. I'm higher up and around where I should be (hourly has gone way up), but some top row ladies are showing up like rows 5 or 9 on page 1. Very, very odd.

I'm not gonna complain tho cause I've been making more money on avg the last 3 weeks. Shit, it's about time I had a fuckin break even if it's cause SM is broken lolollll.


congrats lady!! hope it keeps up. earnings were fine for me last night, but i’ll consider it pure luck of the draw in my case. i was being extra bitchy lol.

Miss_ShaSha
11-04-2021, 09:05 AM
congrats lady!! hope it keeps up. earnings were fine for me last night, but i’ll consider it pure luck of the draw in my case. i was being extra bitchy lol.

Thanks! LMFAO I've been pretty bitchy too, but in a nice kinda way. Maybe more assertive would be appropriate to say lololll. Good to hear tho!!!

MissAdriana
11-04-2021, 09:18 AM
I let them turn them on whenever (In Exclusive) because I find rejecting them will even make spenders leave sometimes.
Thanks hun


I charge $20 for C2C and I keep my mouse in arms length at ALL TIMES!
Thank you I need to get better with it


YES! the same exact thing happened to me. I was on a roll the first hour and then it was like someone flipped a switch and I've had minimal potentials and shit traffic ever since..really strange

This happens to me to but I thought it was a schedule thing actually. The minute it turns to whatever time I said I would log off the traffic would plummet. And it seems like filling in the schedule always has guys immediately in the chat when I log on as long as I'm on time

DeepThoughts
11-04-2021, 09:27 AM
I notice this happens to me pretty often - I'll hit around a certain dollar amount and then BOOM like magic all of my traffic goes away. That's usually when I take an hour break or so and then come back. I always thought it was counterproductive but I remind myself it is THEIR bottom line they are concerned about and not ours. Still weird AF tho....

These little conspiracy theories pop up every couple of months. SM is just doing some sort of site maintenance or implementing changes and it fucking up the traffic. When I sign on and its dead I check my "placement" If Im on I always show up like #1 or #2 because I only ever search for myself but when the site is glitchy I go to SM.com and I am nowhere!! If I type my name in the search box I will come up but I dont show on the placement list. This is how I know there is no glitch.

What possible motive would SM have for capping how much you can make? I promise you I know them all quite well and they dont care that much at all about each individual person on the site, they are just looking to bring in money. They arent going to waste money trying to create a program that will cap each performer off when they make a certain amount and set certain amounts for certain people. That is way way more complicated then they like to be and honestly I cant think of a single reason it would benefit them to do that.

We are all just gonna have to sit here and cam through the glitchy times and through the good times. Its just part of the job.

minibagel
11-04-2021, 09:45 AM
We are all just gonna have to sit here and cam through the glitchy times and through the good times. Its just part of the job.

it’s frustrating because other major sites, MFC for example, will shut down the entire site when doing maintenance. they always let models know in advance. sm doesn't offer the same courtesy.

streamate reps take notes:
56145

DeepThoughts
11-04-2021, 10:32 AM
lol. I dont think SM glitches are predictable or easily sorted in a measurable amount of time.

Marina Starr
11-04-2021, 10:45 AM
What Liz said:

https://i.ibb.co/7b5M6kv/IMG-2338.png (https://ibb.co/qxfqPJB)

IvyRose
11-04-2021, 10:50 AM
it went from 100 to 0 just like that
i reloaded, i tried again and again and .. nothing. just 2 lurker potentials.

and i was on a roll. i was banking!

sometimes i wonder if after you hit a certain earning or threshold that they direct the traffic else where?
is that even possible?

anyone else have their traffic just straight up go away today ?


I am a 100% sure streamate loves you to earn money , bec your money is also their money
Why would they cap theirown moneyflow coming in?

Ive had the glitch too.... randomly. Sometimes after a show, sometimes while in freechat. Just random, no one coming in at all. I log out and try again.
I know their is something going wrong when no one is popping in, no need to stay in a broken camroom, you will not make money when your room is not findable/working

I even was kicked out of exclusive and disconnected. Never had that before. I have highest possible internet, beast of a computer (i use a gaming computer solely for sm, bec i dont splitstream)...

I dont believe in sm redirecting traffic. It makes no sense at all.
What makes more sense is a glitch, a massive goldshow going on (with 2 popul girls fe getting together, a 0 goldshow going on, own energy going down and therefor attracting less clients over period of time

minibagel
11-04-2021, 10:55 AM
lol. I dont think SM glitches are predictable or easily sorted in a measurable amount of time.

my point was not really so much about whether they could effectively iron out all the glitches in 1 hours time... there will always be little glitches. my point is streamate could treat its models better in many ways. that pic was a shining example of a good first step they could take to improving their communication with us. keep us in the loop instead of in the dark.

naomi_doll
11-04-2021, 11:01 AM
I am a 100% sure streamate loves you to earn money , bec your money is also their money
Why would they cap theirown moneyflow coming in?

Ive had the glitch too.... randomly. Sometimes after a show, sometimes while in freechat. Just random, no one coming in at all. I log out and try again.
I know their is something going wrong when no one is popping in, no need to stay in a broken camroom, you will not make money when your room is not findable/working

I even was kicked out of exclusive and disconnected. Never had that before. I have highest possible internet, beast of a computer (i use a gaming computer solely for sm, bec i dont splitstream)...

I dont believe in sm redirecting traffic. It makes no sense at all.
What makes more sense is a glitch, a massive goldshow going on (with 2 popul girls fe getting together, a 0 goldshow going on, own energy going down and therefor attracting less clients over period of time

How long do you wait before logging off and logging back on? Does it happen often? I'm just wondering if thats something I should be looking out for.

bigbum
11-04-2021, 11:41 AM
How long do you wait before logging off and logging back on? Does it happen often? I'm just wondering if thats something I should be looking out for.

eh i havent found any solution. i notice everyone here has their style of when to take a break ect. ect.
youll have to see what works for you.
so far i havent solved it.

but my lush toy has randomly started working sometimes! so there is that!

bigbum
11-04-2021, 11:42 AM
i wonder what liz thinks if/when she reads all of the stuff we write on here? haha

Marina Starr
11-04-2021, 12:14 PM
Sometimes having "slow" days here and there can actually be a good thing. It gives you a different perspective so when you have slow days you don't take it personal, think the sky is falling or be so hard on yourself because you know slow days do not mean slow week or slow month.

Marina Starr
11-04-2021, 12:24 PM
i wonder what liz thinks if/when she reads all of the stuff we write on here? haha

I can picture her face through some of these gifs that are up for our own interpretation:

https://i.ibb.co/2k05WNs/rs-500x225-160127103127-Best-Oprah-Winfrey-GIFs-4.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/2sdzz90/giphy.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/tc2p6ty/giphy-8.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/w4CTfzD/oprah-winfrey-laughter.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

~Carmen~
11-04-2021, 01:07 PM
Sometimes having "slow" days here and there can actually be a good thing. It gives you a different perspective so when you have slow days you don't take it personal, think the sky is falling or be so hard on yourself because you know slow days do not mean slow week or slow month.

You are so wise sis. I used to take slow days very personally. Now I know it's not about me doing anything wrong. Anyway, it almost always evens out in the end.

looklovely
11-04-2021, 01:09 PM
This is my first pay period using, MassPay did everyone get their email for payout? I see SM, paid me today. What time does the email usually arrive? Thank you!

tashiepuck
11-04-2021, 01:30 PM
Hello, I started using Masspay a few weeks ago and it has been flawless with getting me my payment. I get the email saying I have been paid and its in my masspay account usually by 11 AM Easter time and have it by the same night around 9;30 pm Eastern time. Same thing and time today....Hope this helps

tashiepuck
11-04-2021, 01:30 PM
This is my first pay period using, MassPay did everyone get their email for payout? I see SM, paid me today. What time does the email usually arrive? Thank you!
Hello, I started using Masspay a few weeks ago and it has been flawless with getting me my payment. I get the email saying I have been paid and its in my masspay account usually by 11 AM Easter time and have it by the same night around 9;30 pm Eastern time. Same thing and time today....Hope this helps

looklovely
11-04-2021, 01:45 PM
Hello, I started using Masspay a few weeks ago and it has been flawless with getting me my payment. I get the email saying I have been paid and its in my masspay account usually by 11 AM Easter time and have it by the same night around 9;30 pm Eastern time. Same thing and time today....Hope this helps

Thank you, so much for your reply! Did you get your email today? I haven't received it yet . I'm concerned since under Payment History it says "(via unknown: 7)"

tashiepuck
11-04-2021, 01:57 PM
Thank you, so much for your reply! Did you get your email today? I haven't received it yet . I'm concerned since under Payment History it says "(via unknown: 7)"

Yes I did receive my email today this AM. The first time though I did not receive my email until Friday and then got my deposit it on the Monday. After the first time it will be much quicker

looklovely
11-04-2021, 01:59 PM
Yes I did receive my email today this AM. The first time though I did not receive my email until Friday and then got my deposit it on the Monday. After the first time it will be much quicker

You are an Angel!!! I will wait until tomorrow. Idiot, me just emailed support. I'd tip you if I could!!! I should make a members account. What time Friday did you get the email?

tashiepuck
11-04-2021, 02:12 PM
You are an Angel!!! I will wait until tomorrow. Idiot, me just emailed support. I'd tip you if I could!!! I should make a members account. What time Friday did you get the email?

No problem :) You wont be able to create a members account until you get "paid". Then masspay will email saying " youve been paid " and" please create your account " which is very straight forward. I would think youll get an email by noon tomorrow :)

Marina Starr
11-04-2021, 02:42 PM
Sometimes it's us, sis and that's not necessary a bad thing. Is it our attitudes, lighting, toys too small so we can make adjustments? Successful hoes are always improving. Taking ownership isn't blame-ship!


You are so wise sis. I used to take slow days very personally. Now I know it's not about me doing anything wrong. Anyway, it almost always evens out in the end.

bigbum
11-04-2021, 03:09 PM
I can picture her face through some of these gifs that are up for our own interpretation:

https://i.ibb.co/2k05WNs/rs-500x225-160127103127-Best-Oprah-Winfrey-GIFs-4.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/2sdzz90/giphy.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/tc2p6ty/giphy-8.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/w4CTfzD/oprah-winfrey-laughter.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

omgggg laughing so hard over here... you make my day

Marina Starr
11-04-2021, 03:14 PM
https://i.ibb.co/5hX07Kw/cc.png (https://ibb.co/WvNhTVj)

shiiiiiiiiit, this always got me crackling everytime like Kamala Harris!

https://i.ibb.co/gWGwg9K/laughing-kamala-harris.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

Erika_Xstacy
11-04-2021, 03:16 PM
Thank you, so much for your reply! Did you get your email today? I haven't received it yet . I'm concerned since under Payment History it says "(via unknown: 7)"

that unknown is normal.
I finally got around to depositing last week and this week. i received the email this am for this weeks deposit
I went in and opted for same day (2.00) and received a text from bank that funds have been deposited.

PurpleSquirrel
11-04-2021, 03:22 PM
Just starting out and I'm having issues with the verification broadcaster that runs before you can start show. I've popped in a support ticket but does anyone have any suggestions? It's timed out on me three times in the last half an hour. I worked up my courage to get on ... and now can't get past this step on a technical issue.

zeusydoo
11-04-2021, 03:39 PM
omgggg laughing so hard over here... you make my day


At least you didnt spit cornflakes every where, I was eating brekkie reading the forum LOL

Erika_Xstacy
11-04-2021, 03:54 PM
https://i.ibb.co/5hX07Kw/cc.png (https://ibb.co/WvNhTVj)

shiiiiiiiiit, this always got me crackling everytime like Kamala Harris!

https://i.ibb.co/gWGwg9K/laughing-kamala-harris.gif (https://imgbb.com/)
this is my reaction with every sm fuck up :) use to it over time

FloridaSunDoll
11-04-2021, 05:46 PM
Idk about y’all but something else I’ve noticed this week: normally my inbox has a ton of random messages everything from actually customers to begging freeloaders but this week it’s been almost silent. Hardly any messages at all. Which isn’t a big deal but I’ve just noticed it’s kind of strange paired with the low potentials and shit traffic

Selena_fit
11-04-2021, 05:51 PM
not only that they are pointblank denying it when ive enquired why theyve fiddled with all the algos.....saying nothing looks wrong maybe you should make your room more interesting!

Luci Fer
11-04-2021, 07:00 PM
I notice this happens to me pretty often - I'll hit around a certain dollar amount and then BOOM like magic all of my traffic goes away. That's usually when I take an hour break or so and then come back. I always thought it was counterproductive but I remind myself it is THEIR bottom line they are concerned about and not ours. Still weird AF tho....


Hello, I started using Masspay a few weeks ago and it has been flawless with getting me my payment. I get the email saying I have been paid and its in my masspay account usually by 11 AM Easter time and have it by the same night around 9;30 pm Eastern time. Same thing and time today....Hope this helps

hey, what it says when you get masspay on your bank account? Does it say it's from 'streamate' there?

Genoveve
11-04-2021, 09:17 PM
the fact that they can push their cams on and get auto accepted fast enough to orgasm for free is DISGUSTING.

The abuse needs to end.

SM please I am begging you to put some kind of system in place where they are prompted to tip via popup before they can turn cams on. Or please make the cams not auto accept so quickly or at all... or even just auto accept a little later. Please. Thank you

I feel like I'm being punished for not being able to move my mouse to click with the swiftness of a professional gamer.

If anybody knows a hack or some way to decline the cams within the time please tell me thanks

I don't understand, there's a ten second countdown before the cam goes on---you need lightning speed to click a button in less than ten seconds?

FloridaSunDoll
11-04-2021, 09:32 PM
y'all check your session thumbnails...it looks like they randomly took a session snap shot of us like the old countdown biopic. really strange but definitely not the one I took tonight and it looks like it happened to a lot of other models

Genoveve
11-04-2021, 09:35 PM
^^^Same. My traffic died all of the sudden so I went to check it out and saw my fugly screenshot. I restarted my stream and took a new pic to see if it would fix it and nope. Restarting again now because my potentials randomly went down to zero.

FloridaSunDoll
11-04-2021, 09:37 PM
^^^Same. My traffic died all of the sudden so I went to check it out and saw my fugly screenshot. I restarted my stream and took a new pic to see if it would fix it and nope. Restarting again now because my potentials randomly went down to zero.

yup. I reloaded and tried to change the pic but nothing...shit traffic and potentials. yay

~Carmen~
11-04-2021, 09:53 PM
Sometimes it's us, sis and that's not necessary a bad thing. Is it our attitudes, lighting, toys too small so we can make adjustments? Successful hoes are always improving. Taking ownership isn't blame-ship!

Well dang it! I wonder if it's too late to retrieve my big toys from the garbage.

kamiliam
11-04-2021, 10:00 PM
yup. I reloaded and tried to change the pic but nothing...shit traffic and potentials. yay

I emailed Liz with screenshots already. It looks so sloppy and unprofessional with these live shots. Like I guess I will just never move in freechat, get that quality pic. There already is a vid preview to show we are live, this isn't necessary.

tried to stay on for a longer session before a break in order to establish a pattern just in case this is permanent, looks like mine changed after 30 mins online, hard to say exactly because someone actual interacted in my freechat at that very timestamp. Hopefully it is a glitch just like the editing of comments.

Luci Fer
11-04-2021, 10:07 PM
^^^Same. My traffic died all of the sudden so I went to check it out and saw my fugly screenshot. I restarted my stream and took a new pic to see if it would fix it and nope. Restarting again now because my potentials randomly went down to zero.

Oh that probably explains why it's hella boring tonight!
I hated their random shots when they did it, I hope it's just a glitch! dafuq, I always take a time to make nice biopic everytime I log on!

Luci Fer
11-04-2021, 10:11 PM
Damn, it's with all cams like that! It captures them just randomly! Just check out the front page. Ok streamate really helps to make $$$ now lol

IvyRose
11-04-2021, 10:15 PM
How long do you wait before logging off and logging back on? Does it happen often? I'm just wondering if thats something I should be looking out for.

Depends on the situation, sometimes it restart itself... i think when absolutely nothing is coming in at all, and you had a bunch of dudes there but they suddenly dissappear at same time, alltogether... or there is a regular inside chatting your ear off and he is not randomly kicked out with the rest and not logging back in like he normally does
Than those are signs for me to restart.
Or try diff browser
I dont wait more than lets say 5 min. Sometimes i restart immediatly when something really weird happens (like all logging out at same time and room staying empty)

Genoveve
11-04-2021, 10:28 PM
There already is a vid preview to show we are live, this isn't necessary.

I haven't seen that feature working for the last couple weeks, maybe they're working on reinstating it hence this glitch.

kamiliam
11-04-2021, 10:29 PM
I haven't seen that feature working for the last couple weeks, maybe they're working on reinstating it hence this glitch.

It does still show the feed logged in on customer accounts, but good call on what might have prompted this. It was removed from not logged in guys a couple of weeks ago

FloridaSunDoll
11-04-2021, 11:03 PM
I've noticed that traffic and potentials are slooooooowly starting to pick up a bit. like very slightly but definitely a small improvement. Hopefully whatever is going on tonight is actually a step towards getting back to normal. fingers crossed tomorrow will be an even better improvement

Luci Fer
11-05-2021, 12:21 AM
Let's kick their asses, ladies!
btw, if you make a pic just before to go live, don't you have it cropped in a weird way? Mine is cropped and looks strange.

~Carmen~
11-05-2021, 02:36 AM
Let's kick their asses, ladies!
btw, if you make a pic just before to go live, don't you have it cropped in a weird way? Mine is cropped and looks strange.

Are you talking about the verification pic? Mine always looks weird, even if I'm in my best pose and smiling big;D.

Luci Fer
11-05-2021, 03:16 AM
Are you talking about the verification pic? Mine always looks weird, even if I'm in my best pose and smiling big;D.

hahahaha! ;D
no, not verification pic, I mean the one you make to be a biopic when you are on. (it is shown on your right top corner in your SMConnect, next to 'help' tab) I snap it, then go to verify myself.
And that biopic-to-be came out strange. So I thought they modify something again.

liquidsilk
11-05-2021, 04:05 AM
It isn't even a recent screenshot mine is from 2 days ago lol