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Charnixxx
05-19-2013, 02:54 AM
It seems im in the same boat, i'm convinced that SM does not like me or something! I don't cam as much as some girls b/c I sell mostly videos and have my membership site but I planned on camming much more and I wanted to make SM my main site and work atleast 4-8 hrs a day ..... I wrote sm support and Liz (reccommended by another model who JUST started camming fall 2012, mind you iv'e been on smte since early 2011) I was at 4 1/2 stars the day of me contacting support, for some reason I cammed that day and got a 5 star rating but instead of my stars going up they went down to 4 stars. The only other ratings I had before where 5 stars so i don't understand, and i was working hard to get back to 5 stars! So that really blew me, then to add icing on the cake smate wrote me back the next day and told me i needed 4 1/2 stars and all this bullshit to get gold shows. -___- I think it's really unfair b/c alot of the new models who JUST started camming already have gold shows and I'm not saying I make sm alot of money but I have made them some over the years and I am a good cam girl, but I always get discouraged from their site for many reasons and I have never worked consistently on there. I feel like they show favoritism or just do not like me maybe b/c of my honest tweets on twitter abt their 35% (who knows lol) I almost gave up on sm again b/c im just so over how they do not care for their models AT ALL and give the customers so much power, but instead of quitting them all together I said I'm just going to say to hell with trying to "qualify" for gold shows & getting caught up in all their websites qualifications.... and just continue to do group/private shows and working my 2 sites. Good luck to u ladies tho I'm not here to discourage anyone just giving my 2 scents on the matter lol xo.
cammodel
05-19-2013, 08:37 AM
most will not tell someone how to run a room as everyone is very different.
I can cuss ppl out all day, ignore and bank
others make nothing from that
the sitting, standing , laying.. that is to make you comfy not them so dont worry about that.
I can sit for a hour and not do a private, then they roll in. Time, time, time... if you can I hope you plan on breaking that up, they lurk hours as well and will not buy shows, just lurkers.
You get the same free chat at SM , any free chat site.
Mind if I ask how long you have been camming and your camming expectations from jump? Sm is not a jump off site, its a work like a dog site , the freeloaders are worse than ever IMO,hate to say it.
People work like a dog on SM? It took me about a month to build up enough regulars that I made good chunk of money. I increased my rates after about a week on SM. I think on SM it depends on placement, pure and simple. If you can get to the main page you will be ok. Sometimes SM seems to take me off the main page and for about a minute I'll be on the second or third, then back on the main page. As soon as I'm off the main page it's like a ghost town in my room. I do think Gold Shows are a work like a dog thing, though. Because of the free loaders. But I can't see just sitting there in free chat as working that hard. At least they don't take chargebacks out of your paycheck like on ImLive. I felt I was working for nothing there. Or Live Jasmin where you make pennies compared to SM and do the same thing.
For the person with the question though, I find I do better wearing makeup with my blush. If I don't use blush I don't make much. If I do wear it, I make my average. Also, I don't make much if I dress up in lingerie. A tank top and shorts does it for me. When I dress up in lingerie they think I'm sweet, then they hear me cussing out people and kicking around trolls and they can't figure me out.
cammodel
05-19-2013, 08:43 AM
Just ask. I've found they are really helpful if you just ask the support.
astarisborn
05-19-2013, 09:02 AM
I got it through liz or Vanessa i don't remember which one .Try to find their email by searching through these threads on SW.
Ditto. I can't remember what thread listed one of their emails but I wrote Liz & asked for goldshows & voila, it was done! Just a search should pull it up somewhere.
TaTasha
05-19-2013, 09:04 AM
Just ask. I've found they are really helpful if you just ask the support.
She said she has tried writing REPEATEDLY.
temptingmodel
05-19-2013, 10:57 AM
yes, some do work like a dog. Some models do not make dime in a days work, sad but true.
Gold shows are definitely a hustle, models have to attract them , therefor no sitting just waiting for someone to drop gold a model has to entice.
" I can't see just sitting there in free chat as working that hard."
Very true , we are not working or performing, it can be painful to sit and do nothing and therefor a persons whole physical and mental mentality feels as if they have been working when they have not. It is tiresome to NOT do anything VS performing or chatting with customers.
Most of us that are posters here
awesome cammers
we tip off each other on what we know
we help each other when site issues occur and have no one else to turn to
'WORK LIKE DOGS" meaning we PUT IN TIME TO MAKE THAT DIME, the FAT ASS paychecks do not come from camming a couple of hours
we worry about lighting
use HD encoder
most use sound unless their hustle is known to NOT use sound
There is a lot of work done "behind the scenes" that a lot of people do not realize.
Sometimes one site works for one model and not the other. know what I mean? There is A LOT of detail working on SM.
IA about IMLIVE and LiveJasmin,
I can only speak on my past experience with LJ , it sucked, the owner sucked, he can kiss my ass, sending fake paychecks, then paying me pay pal for "camming" which is highly illegal for paypal.He risked my paypal account and refused to send me a paycheck instead/ End rant
This is SM thread so I dont want to indulge on that.
Sm is not a "jump off" for 99.9% of models. They have to WORK to earn.
I would hate to be a new model on SM, its flooded, 2 months to approve ppl? That says something alone. Flooded with models and new applications but once in and have the vibe of the site , has everything needed to run smooth, a model has the potential to do great. :)
Incantatious
05-19-2013, 11:19 AM
But I can't see just sitting there in free chat as working that hard.
http://s24.postimg.org/q2aiyxslx/tumblr_mlwl7bm_Ns_S1rjcfxro1_500.gif
Are you talking about girls who browse Tumblr in a badly lit room, watch movies, chat in other chat rooms in free chat and don't pay any attention to their rooms whatsoever and may as well just be NOT on cam at all? (Which, depending on how it's executed, could still qualify as hustle btw!)
Or are you talking about the girls who sit in free chat chatting to every single new guy who comes into her room, racking her psychological rollerdex for potential ways on how to lure any given particular guy into paid chat based on as little as his username and the first things he says to her in a fast manner, deal with freeloaders and time-wasters (those guys still exist in classic chat! The tediousness of having to deal with assholes isn't just reserved for GOLD shows and party chat!), and constantly smile and come across as upbeat and horny!?
I kind of can't believed you've cammed for very long at all if you think that "sitting there" in free chat isn't working that hard.
Rose_Who
05-19-2013, 11:20 AM
I would hate to be a new model on SM, its flooded, 2 months to approve ppl? That says something alone. Flooded with models and new applications but once in and have the vibe of the site , has everything needed to run smooth, a model has the potential to do great. :)
HOLY CRAP 2MONTHS????
Here I was getting impatient after 3 days! Any way to expedite?
temptingmodel
05-19-2013, 11:50 AM
All I can say, its different for everyone.
I know ppl who can have you signed in 24 hours (they keep 2% of your income) as long as everything is correct
and
I know of models who get approved in days or just painfully wait it out .. its a crap shoot.
HOLY CRAP 2MONTHS????
Here I was getting impatient after 3 days! Any way to expedite?
cammodel
05-19-2013, 12:02 PM
http://s24.postimg.org/q2aiyxslx/tumblr_mlwl7bm_Ns_S1rjcfxro1_500.gif
Are you talking about girls who browse Tumblr in a badly lit room, watch movies, chat in other chat rooms in free chat and don't pay any attention to their rooms whatsoever and may as well just be NOT on cam at all? (Which, depending on how it's executed, could still qualify as hustle btw!)
Or are you talking about the girls who sit in free chat chatting to every single new guy who comes into her room, racking her psychological rollerdex for potential ways on how to lure any given particular guy into paid chat based on as little as his username and the first things he says to her in a fast manner, deal with freeloaders and time-wasters (those guys still exist in classic chat! The tediousness of having to deal with assholes isn't just reserved for GOLD shows and party chat!), and constantly smile and come across as upbeat and horny!?
I kind of can't believed you've cammed for very long at all if you think that "sitting there" in free chat isn't working that hard.
I've cammed for two years. I do say hi to every guy that walks into my room, usually and no I don't fiddle around with other sites on cam. I do try to figure out what they want according to their name. Compared to other jobs I've had it's easy as pie. I'm sitting on a comfy bed, in my own home, making my own rules and men are paying me far more than minimum wage to show them my body or talk dirty to them or just watch them do perverted things to themselves. As opposed to working in a factory, working retail having to get paid minimum wage to put up with customers, I think it's by far the easiest job I've ever had for the money I make. I work a day job and I get paid hourly more than I make on cam, and it's still harder work than camming. To me working like a dog is slaving away for hardly any money and working hard physical labor, or just being given a work load you cannot complete in the time you are at work, so you have to stay up all night just to get it done and you get no extra $ for it. Free chat has a lot of free loaders but I just ignore them or if it's really slow I use them for entertainment. Free chat doesn't bother me that much at all. It's all about how you look at it I guess.
My hustle is being a bitch/bratty princess. So I guess if I had to smile and be friendly to everyone who came into my room then it might be kinda hard. I have a few guys who come in and say "smile BB" and I'm like "give me a reason to smile" and they sometimes tip me and I smile. Or they take me pvt, then I give them a huge smile.
I do about two/3 hours 3-4 days a week and make about 500 to 600 per week. I would like to put in more hours but it's like fishing, if the fish don't bite within a few minutes of me putting in my hook, I move on to other things. The HD encoder is pretty easy to use and I read about some problems people had with it but the only problem I find is during the day there is a lag. Not using the encoder or using another browser won't help it either.
I never bought a huge lighting setup. I have a lamp that I put right behind of my camera that I got at the Dollar Store about 6 years ago. During the day I use natural light in my living room. So far no complaints. I have a logitech camera but not sure the model. It's not the 900 whatever model people say they use. i think I paid about 80.00 for it on clearance at Wal Mart and I ask all the time if my camera is clear and everyone says it's crystal clear.
The thing I worry about isn't what I've seen other models worrying about. I mostly worry about my hair and my makeup. Because on my cam if my hair and makeup isn't perfect I look really bad. And I worry about my body so I go to the gym and do sit ups and push ups daily because on cam it seems you look bigger than what you are.
It took less than a day to approve me on SM in September of last year. I started out on page 3 and then worked up to page 2. I didn't even know about checking my placement on there at that time. Then one day my husband logged on and said I was on page one. I used to be in the first 3 rows but I took about 4 months off and now I'm anywhere from the middle of page one all the way to the top row of page two if I'm having a really shitty night. But if that's the case I log off because I don't want my time online without earnings to affect my placement that much, if at all.
If someone wants to verify me to know that I'm telling the truth I don't mind. Everyone has different experiences.
Incantatious
05-19-2013, 12:20 PM
Compared to other jobs I've had it's easy as pie. I'm sitting on a comfy bed, in my own home, making my own rules and men are paying me far more than minimum wage to show them my body or talk dirty to them or just watch them do perverted things to themselves. As opposed to working in a factory, working retail having to get paid minimum wage to put up with customers, I think it's by far the easiest job I've ever had for the money I make. I work a day job and I get paid hourly more than I make on cam, and it's still harder work than camming. To me working like a dog is slaving away for hardly any money and working hard physical labor, or just being given a work load you cannot complete in the time you are at work, so you have to stay up all night just to get it done and you get no extra $ for it. Free chat has a lot of free loaders but I just ignore them or if it's really slow I use them for entertainment. Free chat doesn't bother me that much at all. It's all about how you look at it I guess.
Oh, so you meant by comparison - to other forms of employment. The turn in context makes it quite different, as a large portion of society would have us know that our job isn't even a "real job" at all. No no - we just masturbate for a living. No work involved there, then. (lol) But it's incredibly easy to compare and come off with a superior in every job in the world until you get to the guys in 3rd world countries... Factory work, working retail as white people in the UK or US? Are those "hard work" compared to say, cleaning shit off toilets for less? how about having a terrible boss in an otherwise "cushy" job? how about the same job as factory work but in a different country?
Compared to someone in a shop job in my country, I have a terrific job...
Compared to someone working in the clothes factory in India, making clothes for said shop in the UK or the US, the person working for the aforementioned shop job has the best job in the world.
But would everyone agree that I have the best job in the world? Given outing, comfortability with nudity, sexuality, putting my future employment possibilities and present and personal relationships in jeopardy etc to name a few possible objections? No. There are many people who would have me know that I am exploiting myself, damaging my soul, that I'm "already" damaged to want to do this, etc.
What I'm trying to demonstrate, is that you can go right down the "food chain" of various forms of employment in various different circumstances and variables, and come out with comparisons of all kinds. There's an active thread going on right now detailing the various physical ailments our colleagues suffer in conjunction with this job which in and of itself suggests that it's not as plain sailing as sitting on a snuggley bed with a silver spoon sticking out of our pussies.
I don't think "working like a dog" / working extremely hard, is necessarily a term exclusive to "working extremely hard for little", because it's still completely possible to work extremely hard for a lot of money.
temptingmodel
05-19-2013, 12:25 PM
Ahhhh not a full time cammer on a free chat site, that can be why the views are different.
Most of us it is full time. Its our source of income bc we chose this life
*wanted to cover that before someone pops off with "you chose it"
Rose_Who
05-19-2013, 12:33 PM
a large portion of society would have us know that our job isn't even a "real job" at all. No no - we just masturbate for a living. No work involved there, then.
Two years ago, I cammed for all of 3 weeks on MFC before I had to quit for the sake of my own sanity. I felt like I worked harder in that 3 weeks than in my entire 2 years of being in the military....
And this goes for strippers in clubs, as well. Every time some asshat decided to tell me that what I did wasn't a real job and that I didn't work... I wanted to punch him in the face and scream, "YOU try teetering around in 7inch heels for 10 hours! YOU try getting yoru ass grabbed by jerks who don't know the rules. YOU try finding 4 different routes home to avoid being followed. YOU deal with what I have to deal with for ONE FREAKING DAY and tell me how it's not a real job!"
Professional naked chicks work WAY hard and have to deal with so much shit... If any of those guys had to walk an hour in our stilettos, they'd be begging for us to take their money because they'd know how hard it is.
cammodel
05-19-2013, 12:37 PM
Oh, so you meant by comparison - to other forms of employment. The turn in context makes it quite different, as a large portion of society would have us know that our job isn't even a "real job" at all. No no - we just masturbate for a living. No work involved there, then. (lol) But it's incredibly easy to compare and come off with a superior in every job in the world until you get to the guys in 3rd world countries... Factory work, working retail as white people in the UK or US? Are those "hard work" compared to say, cleaning shit off toilets for less? how about having a terrible boss in an otherwise "cushy" job? how about the same job as factory work but in a different country?
Compared to someone in a shop job in my country, I have a terrific job...
Compared to someone working in the clothes factory in India, making clothes for said shop in the UK or the US, the person working for the aforementioned shop job has the best job in the world.
What I'm trying to demonstrate, is that you can go right down the "food chain" of various forms of employment in various different circumstances and variables, and come out with comparisons of all kinds. There's an active thread going on right now detailing the various physical ailments our colleagues suffer in conjunction with this job which in and of itself suggests that it's not as plain sailing as sitting on a snuggley bed with a silver spoon sticking out of our pussies.
I don't think "working like a dog" / working extremely hard, is necessarily a term exclusive to "working extremely hard for little", because it's still completely possible to work extremely hard for a lot of money.
I guess it's all about perspective. I'm a narcissist. Not many females are narcissists and it's not something I can really help, but knowing it helps me to keep the annoying parts of it in check so that I don't hurt other peoples feelings without realizing it. Maybe that is why camming seems different to me than everyone else. It's the perfect job for someone like me. I'm not the hottest person in the world by far, but I LOVE attention and so I sit there in free chat I get to abuse/boot the people who are assholes which plays into my personality trait of loving to be in control, and then I get men telling me how pretty I am and then some of them pay me just because they either think I'm hot or they are turned on by me or something. It's a pretty cool feeling to me and it helps me be nicer to people outside of the cam world because I get that fulfillment of being the center of attention, so in my day job I can perform better and not have my narcissistic traits come out.
I compare this job to other jobs, that's how I keep it in perspective. I could do extra work at Mc Donalds for 7.25 per hour. But then I'd be on my feet 8 hours for two to three days per week, have to wear a uniform that doesn't flatter me, I'd smell like fry grease, probably make my face break out with the oil and have to be looked down on by customers who come in there because I'm working at McDonalds. Never mind that I have a day job that's corporate but I need extra money to pay off my student loans. People may or may not think camming is hard work but I say, if they think it's not work, and I'm still getting paid more than them at their job they do consider hard work, then that totally just inflated my ego a little bit and I couldn't care less about their opinion when I go to the bank. It's really just jealousy the reason why people don't think it's work at all. I personally don't find it "hard" work, but isn't that awesome though? Whether it is or not depending on perspective, if people don't think you work very hard and you have money and nice things....it's sort of like..yeah...hate on hater.
Ahhhh not a full time cammer on a free chat site, that can be why the views are different.
Most of us it is full time. Its our source of income bc we chose this life
*wanted to cover that before someone pops off with "you chose it"
Oh no, no time for full time camming for me. I thought SM was a free chat site because it doesn't have the option to opt out of free chat.
cammodel
05-19-2013, 12:43 PM
Two years ago, I cammed for all of 3 weeks on MFC before I had to quit for the sake of my own sanity. I felt like I worked harder in that 3 weeks than in my entire 2 years of being in the military....
And this goes for strippers in clubs, as well. Every time some asshat decided to tell me that what I did wasn't a real job and that I didn't work... I wanted to punch him in the face and scream, "YOU try teetering around in 7inch heels for 10 hours! YOU try getting yoru ass grabbed by jerks who don't know the rules. YOU try finding 4 different routes home to avoid being followed. YOU deal with what I have to deal with for ONE FREAKING DAY and tell me how it's not a real job!"
Professional naked chicks work WAY hard and have to deal with so much shit... If any of those guys had to walk an hour in our stilettos, they'd be begging for us to take their money because they'd know how hard it is.
I could not imagine doing the same things strippers do on cam in stilettos. Or having to deal with a customer in the VIP sticking their finger up my vagina during a lap dance. No no no. Strippers work incredibly hard, IMO. The fact that we aren't in person with people to me makes it much safer and sane. Just think about being a dancer, they see you, they know what town you work in, so they know the area you possibly live in, they could easily stalk you more, they could attack you after work, touch you. Just the paranoia factor alone would cause me to rank it up there as an extremely hard job. There's always a chance people might recognize you on cam or you could get a stalker. But....you can make up a fake name, fake town/state you live in and most people will never know you are lying.
Incantatious
05-19-2013, 12:47 PM
I guess it's all about perspective. I'm a narcissist. Not many females are narcissists and it's not something I can really help, but knowing it helps me to keep the annoying parts of it in check so that I don't hurt other peoples feelings without realizing it. Maybe that is why camming seems different to me than everyone else. It's the perfect job for someone like me. I'm not the hottest person in the world by far, but I LOVE attention and so I sit there in free chat I get to abuse/boot the people who are assholes which plays into my personality trait of loving to be in control, and then I get men telling me how pretty I am and then some of them pay me just because they either think I'm hot or they are turned on by me or something. It's a pretty cool feeling to me and it helps me be nicer to people outside of the cam world because I get that fulfillment of being the center of attention, so in my day job I can perform better and not have my narcissistic traits come out.
I compare this job to other jobs, that's how I keep it in perspective. I could do extra work at Mc Donalds for 7.25 per hour. But then I'd be on my feet 8 hours for two to three days per week, have to wear a uniform that doesn't flatter me, I'd smell like fry grease, probably make my face break out with the oil and have to be looked down on by customers who come in there because I'm working at McDonalds. Never mind that I have a day job that's corporate but I need extra money to pay off my student loans. People may or may not think camming is hard work but I say, if they think it's not work, and I'm still getting paid more than them at their job they do consider hard work, then that totally just inflated my ego a little bit and I couldn't care less about their opinion when I go to the bank. It's really just jealousy the reason why people don't think it's work at all. I personally don't find it "hard" work, but isn't that awesome though? Whether it is or not depending on perspective, if people don't think you work very hard and you have money and nice things....it's sort of like..yeah...hate on hater.
LMFAO! Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, okay, I now get this. Love this..
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5uyz6Te0f1rwgovuo1_500.gif
Not laughing at your sentiment, but your attitude and perspective actually made me a bit wet.. Respect.
bootiebabe
05-19-2013, 12:54 PM
I have been in the adult industry 2 and half years, cammed for 2 years.
I would never ever say free chat is easy work, i work on another site too which you do not have to do free chat, but its so flooded with girls and not enough paying traffic that to get the money i need to earn i have had to work other sites and have my eggs in lots of baskets to make things work for me again.
I can only work certain hours and they are not prime hours so i really do have to work at it.
If you were lucky enough to just jump on sm and get to the front page with a whole lot of regs - lucky you.
I have been on sm 4 months now, its taken me time to get the money i need to earn and its not been easy, encoder issues, working on pages that do not attract lots of traffic, not really having much of a clue about the site, but i had to do my homework have read lots on this thread and i stuck it out.
I still have slow days which in free chat i turn into a monster much more quickly, Golds shows do attract many more freeloaders i have my own thing i do with my gold shows, i won't strip before hand and usually tell the freeloaders to p off out! I cannot do a lot of gold shows as my patience wears thin and although some guys like the fact i can be feisty and i dam well sure it puts a lot of guys off too.
Days when i am extremely non stop busy after about 3 hours i am aching and can actually feel sick from it.
The very last thing i would say free is was easy not on any site, i am not a huge fan of it as i am from a site that you can pick and choose if you want to go on it, but sm having more traffic i put up with it a lot more and find there are more paying guys.
I think if you were to do camming full time you may not still have the same view, how many hours are you on at any one time ?
cammodel
05-19-2013, 12:59 PM
LMFAO! Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, okay, I now get this. Love this..
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5uyz6Te0f1rwgovuo1_500.gif
Not laughing at your sentiment, but your attitude and perspective actually made me a bit wet.. Respect.
Right on. Which is why when you said "We aren't all sitting there with a silver spoon sticking out of our vagina" I was like WHAT? Yes we are but if I said it you would think I was being a rude, stuck up bitch without knowing why I would think that. I have gold in mine right now, literally. Surgical steel just wasn't good enough for my top notch vagina. LMFAO. If people would get to know narcissists, you would actually find us funny and not take anything we say personally.
Bootie Babe...I'm not on long. I stated before about 2-3 hours at a time. If the traffic is paying I'll stay on as long as I can. I just get bored easily and log off. Thinking about the people who do it full time, it must really be hard because the traffic is inconsistent. What is the deal with the encoder? I swear I've never had any problems out of that thing. Why do other people have problems with it? Have you updated your pc and your plug ins and all that stuff?
Incantatious
05-19-2013, 01:08 PM
I think, to put camming in the sex industry as a whole, there are many different "worlds" inside of it in the sense, for example, that high-end prostitution in the UK is a WORLD away from prostitution in say, Bangladesh.
A UK, US, Canadian camgirl has a drastically different camming experience from women in much less privileged parts of the world... I believe we do get certain privileges based on where we live, with things such as race and language playing, well... bigger parts than I even want to think about.
It wasn't extraordinarily difficult for me to get to row 2 - 4 on the front page. It's a miracle if I work more than 5 - 8 hours a week. How the heck am I even on the front page with hours and consistency like this? I'm incredibly thankful that I am, but all the same.. I could be wrong, but I do not as well fancy my chances of seeing such success with the work I've put into camming (I am part time), if I were not a fluent English-speaker or a Westerner.
cammodel
05-19-2013, 01:19 PM
I think, to put camming in the sex industry as a whole, there are many different "worlds" inside of it in the sense, for example, that high-end prostitution in the UK is a WORLD away from prostitution in say, Bangladesh.
A UK, US, Canadian camgirl has a drastically different camming experience from women in much less privileged parts of the world... I believe we do get certain privileges based on where we live, with things such as race and language playing, well... bigger parts than I even want to think about.
It wasn't extraordinarily difficult for me to get to row 2 - 4 on the front page. It's a miracle if I work more than 5 - 8 hours a week. How the heck am I even on the front page with hours and consistency like this? I'm incredibly thankful that I am, but all the same.. I could be wrong, but I do not as well fancy my chances of seeing such success with the work I've put into camming (I am part time), if I were not a fluent English-speaker or a Westerner.
I have looked around the camsite. I am sure many women are living in conditions that someone from most of the western world would never understand. I have only known of the adult industry as being popular porn stars, the dancers I've known made great money and lived in middle class homes/were college students are successful at their modeling etc. I've never known escorts but I know there's a difference between a high class call girl and the prostitution in the USA that is heavily involved in drug use, sex abuse, sex trafficking and other horrible conditions. I am the same as you Incantatious, when I found out my placement with the little hours I put in I was shocked. Then I felt grateful. I would say a lot of the reasons why the UK, US and Canadian cam girls get better placement and business is a lot to do with our nutrition and we take better care of our bodies because we don't live in extreme poverty most of the time. It shows when you actually have proper nutrition and aren't living a life of worry about where your next meal will come from. But I see lots of very pretty Russian women and I wonder why they aren't place higher. Then I see their video and it's not as good quality. So maybe their internet systems aren't as up to date which hurts them. Because in my opinion, I think the Russian/Eastern European women are very pretty and should be highly desirable just based upon their looks/body alone. I also watched a documentary about sex workers and it said a lot of the women on cam sites are made to do it by pimps. Which is just scary when I look through and see women that are in rooms that you can just tell they are in very poor countries and wonder if they are being made to do it and were sold into it or not. And you know, if I am wondering that by just looking, customers are going to wonder it too. It can't be a high selling point.
bootiebabe
05-19-2013, 01:21 PM
Bootie Babe...I'm not on long. I stated before about 2-3 hours at a time. If the traffic is paying I'll stay on as long as I can. I just get bored easily and log off. Thinking about the people who do it full time, it must really be hard because the traffic is inconsistent. What is the deal with the encoder? I swear I've never had any problems out of that thing. Why do other people have problems with it? Have you updated your pc and your plug ins and all that stuff?[/QUOTE]
Ah i missed your hours before, yeah i can pretty much stay sane for those amount of hours - just lol, well thats if i am earning at the same time.
I have crap connection so did not think it was possible, works ok-ish on my pc but then tried it on my mac and hey presto works a treat, had a few issues last week with getting kicked off but sorted itself again.
My placement is great now always seem to be on the front page but i think thats down to a combination of things, i was on there a while before so got my ratings favs etc who knows not sure how the hell they work the placement.
My placement just seems to drop a page or two now and again and then i am back on the front, but your very right camming is inconsistent and things change all the time, so while i am on the front page for now i will be thankful as i am sure that will not always be the case, girls flood in all the time.
cammodel
05-19-2013, 01:29 PM
Bootie Babe...I'm not on long. I stated before about 2-3 hours at a time. If the traffic is paying I'll stay on as long as I can. I just get bored easily and log off. Thinking about the people who do it full time, it must really be hard because the traffic is inconsistent. What is the deal with the encoder? I swear I've never had any problems out of that thing. Why do other people have problems with it? Have you updated your pc and your plug ins and all that stuff?
Ah i missed your hours before, yeah i can pretty much stay sane for those amount of hours - just lol, well thats if i am earning at the same time.
I have crap connection so did not think it was possible, works ok-ish on my pc but then tried it on my mac and hey presto works a treat, had a few issues last week with getting kicked off but sorted itself again.
My placement is great now always seem to be on the front page but i think thats down to a combination of things, i was on there a while before so got my ratings favs etc who knows not sure how the hell they work the placement.
My placement just seems to drop a page or two now and again and then i am back on the front, but your very right camming is inconsistent and things change all the time, so while i am on the front page for now i will be thankful as i am sure that will not always be the case, girls flood in all the time.[/QUOTE]
Well I think the encoder has a lot to do with placement but you know, if I'm on a while and I don't make much money I drop down a lot. If I make consistent money while logged on, then I stay where I'm at or move up. I don't even know if it has to do with your time on/money made ratio as it has to do with how much overall you make. Because during the few weeks in the past that I made near a grand or one grand (and yes for those weeks I put in 6-8 hour days) my placement was a couple times in the top row. I think it also depends on how much overall you rake in. Because for example, when I started out my rates were 4.99/5.99 and I increased them after a week. The higher my rates, the higher my placement seemed to move up because the more money I made overall. Being gone has really hurt my placement by about 3-4 rows. I've been back now about 4 weeks and it's slowly creeping back up.
SarahTime
05-19-2013, 01:39 PM
My placement just seems to drop a page or two now and again and then i am back on the front
This can happen if your stream or connection is not as good for a couple minutes, or if the site for some reason is not detecting your audio or HD settings properly. You will drop down a few rows or pages and go right back up when it corrects. I was told this happens when there is "packet loss" from your stream to the SM servers.
cammodel
05-19-2013, 01:41 PM
She said she has tried writing REPEATEDLY.
Is she typing the right e mail? Is she going through the site? I don't really know what else to say. She may not qualify for some reason. IDK. I've never had a problem getting through to them on both my main account and when I had a couples account.
Missymissdemeanour
05-19-2013, 02:17 PM
I tried via SM support several times when I wanted gold shows, they never responded so in the end I went to Vanessa, as far as I was concerned I had all the relevant qualifications, but Vanessa checked everything for me and it turned out I did not have the encoder set up quite right, she told me how to reset it and voila I had gold shows enabled within minutes! Double check everything ladies!
anastasiasoko
05-19-2013, 10:42 PM
I've got a question. I see that streamate seems to have a crap load of different variations of the site. For instance, if I google a models name, it comes up on page after page of Streamate sites but with different domain names like camlive or itslive, etc, etc.
Does anyone know whether it matters what domain I originally signed up to? Does it all fall under streamate rules/policies/rates?
cammodel
05-19-2013, 11:28 PM
I don't know. You are signing up on white labels and they may re direct you to the streamate site. But if you know the actual SM site, then go there and sign up. I actually looked into a white label site for LJ and it was too much work for me. But I know for a fact the people who signed up as customers through my site, I would get a payout for that. I'm not sure about models but owning a white label would not make me a studio. I know that because I looked into it.
anastasiasoko
05-19-2013, 11:41 PM
Yeah, that's the thing. I knew about streamate myself so I recognize the site layout. So when my friend showed me the site she signed up under, I recognized it as streamate but with a different domain name. Now, when you google her name, you just see that her cam profile shows up on all the streamate variations. Just hoping she didn't get screwed by signing up under a "white label" instead of streamate itself
roast
05-19-2013, 11:43 PM
But if you know the actual SM site, then go there and sign up.
It is just Streamatemodels.com (http://www.streamatemodels.com/), your usual model console ifyou work the site.
I've got a question. I see that streamate seems to have a crap load of different variations of the site. For instance, if I google a models name, it comes up on page after page of Streamate sites but with different domain names like camlive or itslive, etc, etc.
Does anyone know whether it matters what domain I originally signed up to? Does it all fall under streamate rules/policies/rates?
Those are all white labels of the site - some white labels have studios, some dont. It is best to always just sign up directly at Streamatemodels.com or scroll to the bottom of the Streamate.com and click 'models wanted'. Dont just assume itll redirect to independent signup, it wont always do that. May also want to check out this thread: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?160099-How-to-sign-up-for-sites-directly-to-earn-more-%28aka-avoid-studios%29
cammodel
05-19-2013, 11:44 PM
Yeah, that's the thing. I knew about streamate myself so I recognize the site layout. So when my friend showed me the site she signed up under, I recognized it as streamate but with a different domain name. Now, when you google her name, you just see that her cam profile shows up on all the streamate variations. Just hoping she didn't get screwed by signing up under a "white label" instead of streamate itself
Well, only one way to find out. Just look at her earnings and see if it's 35 percent of what she charged. Or, she can contact SM support and ask.
Rose_Who
05-20-2013, 09:04 AM
Just one more person here who is now officially in love with Liz from Streamate. I emailed her yesterday, and today, I'm approved! YAY!!!!!!
sylvieblue
05-20-2013, 04:24 PM
delete
SweetieBelle
05-20-2013, 05:02 PM
Is it viciously slow right now, or am I just bombing hardcore? I'm so not in the mood to cam and it's probably showing. *sigh sigh*
sylvieblue
05-20-2013, 05:11 PM
I just got approved today! I've been waiting several weeks, and now that I'm all set to go, I'm scared! Ha.
I can't figure out how to get the built in cam on my Mac turned off and my Logitech cam on instead. Any tips?
Marina Starr
05-20-2013, 05:13 PM
Are you using the HD Encoder?
I just got approved today! I've been waiting several weeks, and now that I'm all set to go, I'm scared! Ha.
I can't figure out how to get the built in cam on my Mac turned off and my Logitech cam on instead. Any tips?
SarahTime
05-20-2013, 06:18 PM
Still every time I try to view cams on SM, I can hear the audio but the video is like suuuuper laggy. It's so choppy it's almost like it's just still images changing every few seconds.
I can't help but think this must have something to do with why it's so DEAD on the site lately. Customers aren't going to stick around if they can't view a smooth stream. It's every single stream I try to view.
I have asked other people from different locations and they have been experiencing the same thing so it's not just my connection or something.
cammodel
05-20-2013, 06:19 PM
I just got approved today! I've been waiting several weeks, and now that I'm all set to go, I'm scared! Ha.
I can't figure out how to get the built in cam on my Mac turned off and my Logitech cam on instead. Any tips?
If you aren't using the HD encoder then get that. Look under "support" and then "HD encoder" when you are logged into your account.
If you use the encoder there is an option to select which camera you are using under the webcamera settings once the encoder is up and running.
If you don't want to use the encoder, when you click on your profile to stream, it will ask you to allow your camera. You can click on the little webcam icon on that prompt and then select whatever camera you want. You can also click on the microphone icon and select what microphone you want too.
cammodel
05-20-2013, 06:20 PM
Still every time I try to view cams on SM, I can hear the audio but the video is like suuuuper laggy. It's so choppy it's almost like it's just still images changing every few seconds.
I can't help but think this must have something to do with why it's so DEAD on the site lately. Customers aren't going to stick around if they can't view a smooth stream. It's every single stream I try to view.
I have asked other people from different locations and they have been experiencing the same thing so it's not just my connection or something.
My cam lags during the day sometimes. But when it's lagging I ask the room and they say it's fine.
Marina Starr
05-20-2013, 06:40 PM
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I'm going to focus on content while I wait for the $1.99 girls to give up or get a clue.
temptingmodel
05-20-2013, 06:52 PM
Clients actually asked me to lower my prices to 1.99. @Sugamomma was in my room to witness this today. Talk about bite my tongue.
I think this is the beginning of the summer slump. I've also noticed a big wave of new models, and the price undercutting trend resurfacing. It's super unpleasant, but hopefully it doesn't last long. I'm going to focus on content while I wait for the $1.99 girls to give up or get a clue.
I just ran the numbers, and I'd have to spend almost 12 hours IN private at $1.99 to get $500/week on Streamate. :O I rarely spend 12 hours online in a week.
Marina Starr
05-20-2013, 06:54 PM
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Clients actually asked me to lower my prices to 1.99.
temptingmodel
05-20-2013, 06:58 PM
yes! this exact look lol
temptingmodel
05-20-2013, 07:01 PM
I will do it from the east coast tonight bb.
I havent llooked recently, it drives me insane. I was thinking everything was grand <-- its only Monday and ITS GRAND so I assumed everything was peachy. They are prob happy we re not disconnecting.
Maybe I need to re think banning people who come in and leave, this can easily be our problem
Still every time I try to view cams on SM, I can hear the audio but the video is like suuuuper laggy. It's so choppy it's almost like it's just still images changing every few seconds.
I can't help but think this must have something to do with why it's so DEAD on the site lately. Customers aren't going to stick around if they can't view a smooth stream. It's every single stream I try to view.
I have asked other people from different locations and they have been experiencing the same thing so it's not just my connection or something.
SweetieBelle
05-20-2013, 07:10 PM
I think this is the beginning of the summer slump. I've also noticed a big wave of new models, and the price undercutting trend resurfacing. It's super unpleasant, but hopefully it doesn't last long. I'm going to focus on content while I wait for the $1.99 girls to give up or get a clue.
I just ran the numbers, and I'd have to spend almost 12 hours IN private at $1.99 to get $500/week on Streamate. :O I rarely spend 12 hours online in a week.
I tried $1.99 once out of desperation. NEVER again. Never. I just can't take it.
Rose_Who
05-20-2013, 07:11 PM
I'm going to focus on content while I wait for the $1.99 girls to give up or get a clue..
Hey, man, don't look at me... I jacked my prices up as high as SM will let me as a newbie.
LaceyCummings
05-20-2013, 08:19 PM
Feeling like a crazy person right now... I KNOW beyond a doubt that I had an exclusive chat with a customer today. I distinctly remember him telling me his name and I used it a lot, there is no question this was an exclusive show and not free chat. After the show was over, I got a few more shows back to back, but after that, the first custie came back and tipped me in free chat to say thanks for the show, and tell me how much he enjoyed it. IT HAPPENED. It was definitely that particular user name.
And yet... this "imaginary" exclusive does not show up in my earnings today.
Obviously, I emailed "support." For me, that translates to the asshole who owns my studio.
I'm so confused. This has never happened to me before. Has it happened to anyone else? Is my studio to blame? Sofa King pissed. It is not my responsibility to get screen shots of every pvt I do.
Some jackass who I blocked came into my room today, asking the same shit he always asks (he pesters me to have sex with my "roomie" on cam.. and I tell him NO it's against the rules, I don't have a couples account (nevermind a roomie LOL).. after incessant asking I blocked him. He came back under a new screename, I'm assuming a new account. I blocked that one too. Is there a rule against members having two accounts? Should I report this guy?
Cam_Model_Jess
05-20-2013, 09:01 PM
Feeling like a crazy person right now... I KNOW beyond a doubt that I had an exclusive chat with a customer today. I distinctly remember him telling me his name and I used it a lot, there is no question this was an exclusive show and not free chat. After the show was over, I got a few more shows back to back, but after that, the first custie came back and tipped me in free chat to say thanks for the show, and tell me how much he enjoyed it. IT HAPPENED. It was definitely that particular user name.
And yet... this "imaginary" exclusive does not show up in my earnings today.
Obviously, I emailed "support." For me, that translates to the asshole who owns my studio.
I'm so confused. This has never happened to me before. Has it happened to anyone else? Is my studio to blame? Sofa King pissed. It is not my responsibility to get screen shots of every pvt I do.
Lacey, I'm gonna send you a PM, but yes this has been happening this week.
Cam_Model_Jess
05-20-2013, 09:14 PM
Some jackass who I blocked came into my room today, asking the same shit he always asks (he pesters me to have sex with my "roomie" on cam.. and I tell him NO it's against the rules, I don't have a couples account (nevermind a roomie LOL).. after incessant asking I blocked him. He came back under a new screename, I'm assuming a new account. I blocked that one too. Is there a rule against members having two accounts? Should I report this guy?
A LOT of guys have multiple accounts. I've banned the same guys over and over. Fortunately for me, a lot of the time they come back with the same name. I have a nearly photographic memory when it comes to usernames, so I often ban their 2nd, 3rd, 4th accounts before they even have a chance to say "ass bb" :) You could report him if he's harassing you and has multiple accounts. They might not do anything about it, but you won't know unless you try.
Snowy0Star
05-20-2013, 09:32 PM
A LOT of guys have multiple accounts. I've banned the same guys over and over. Fortunately for me, a lot of the time they come back with the same name. I have a nearly photographic memory when it comes to usernames, so I often ban their 2nd, 3rd, 4th accounts before they even have a chance to say "ass bb" :) You could report him if he's harassing you and has multiple accounts. They might not do anything about it, but you won't know unless you try.
Yup more then likely they wont do shit but it never hurts to try or maybe just try emailing them over and over and they might be able to IP ban him for you. I wish they did by IP when u ban from the broadcast screen- MFC does