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Erika_Xstacy
11-19-2021, 07:30 PM
when did they start allowing sleep shows?
i was banned from that in 2012 lol lmao i wld have a goldshow, buy in for video, im sleeping

anonamiss
11-19-2021, 07:34 PM
when did they start allowing sleep shows?
i was banned from that in 2012 lol lmao i wld have a goldshow, buy in for video, im sleeping

it was in the new "streamate rules FAQ" that was mentioned in a recent update email from them

sleep shows were listed "allowed with some exceptions"

here's what the page says:
"Sleeping during a designated “sleep show” is allowed. However, the way you describe the show is important. Do not imply non-consent or illegal activity with words such as “drugged” or “helpless.” If your consent is in question, our support team will cut the stream or suspend your account to avoid showing illegal activity. To avoid this, use clear descriptions such as “Join me for a nap show” and ensure no actions that appear non-consensual happen during the stream."

naomi_doll
11-19-2021, 07:39 PM
it was in the new "streamate rules FAQ" that was mentioned in a recent update email from them

sleep shows were listed "allowed with some exceptions"

here's what the page says:
"Sleeping during a designated “sleep show” is allowed. However, the way you describe the show is important. Do not imply non-consent or illegal activity with words such as “drugged” or “helpless.” If your consent is in question, our support team will cut the stream or suspend your account to avoid showing illegal activity. To avoid this, use clear descriptions such as “Join me for a nap show” and ensure no actions that appear non-consensual happen during the stream."


I wonder if you are supposed to be monitoring the chat while you sleep as well to make sure no one says anything like that lol

kamiliam
11-19-2021, 07:40 PM
i've heard a lot of models talk about getting suspended or banned on CB for basically no reason or a stupid reason, but in general yeah you can go on a token site and see just about anything happening on screen. to my knowledge the only thing MFC seemed to tighten way up on is telling models they weren't allowed to offer meet up raffles anymore after fosta-sesta passed.

what i'm not sure of if all of what you mentioned is actually "allowed", or if it's just a matter of various rules not being enforced. (edit: a quick glance at the MFC model rules wiki (https://wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Rules_for_Models) lists unauthorized people and excessive alcohol or drug consumption as being prohibited, for example, along with a lot of other stuff that is on SM's no no list.) so yeah, it's really just a matter of girls getting away with more over there because MFC doesn't care. in some ways i think that is worse.

i am still hugely in favor of SM for taking action and precaution around new laws and regulations (fosta-sesta, AB-5, mastercard) even if it means new rules for us, because i would rather work for a site that actually cares about making the site legally and financially compliant instead of saying "fuck it" and waiting to possibly get caught/taken down like all the other ones seem to do. but of course compliance doesn't matter worth shit if the site isn't FUNCTIONAL. SM gives us so many unnecessary "features" that literally no one asked for that cause glitches and make the site run like shit, while never seeming to listen to actual model feedback for features we want. it's getting really old and frustrating.

also, i have to assume SM has a reason behind every act that they prohibit on their site... i really hope it's for legal/financial reasons like i mentioned, and not just arbitrary even though it seems to be sometimes.


I mostly agree but we have reached a point where they need to be more transparent. As it gets glitcher everyday I really think what we are seeing is SM trying to work with the 3rd party id verifier. They are all crap, they work to keep being useful. When we are offline but really on, it is probably shutting us down to recheck even if it just your face being obscured. Not a clear face pic(water glass blocking face, phone and not model on screen=they need to log a report= that company gets paid. That glitch with the snapshot profile pic is probably what they are watching.

It’s sensitive which might be great from a legal (for them) perspective, but I hope they didn’t get themselves locked into a long/vague contract. Just my non conspiracy based theory.

bigbum
11-19-2021, 07:42 PM
is racial humiliation allowed?
anyone have insight into that?

anonamiss
11-19-2021, 08:09 PM
is racial humiliation allowed?
anyone have insight into that?

here's a quote from the code of conduct that i found most relevant to this

"Streamate does not condone harassment. If you are found to be harassing, bothering, teasing, distracting and/or mocking others (either as a model or a member), your account may be suspended or terminated. Additionally, you may not engage in any unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically objectionable content."

to me that sounds like it's a no go.

i'll also add my personal way of determining whether or not i'll do a show even if it's within the rules. i always ask myself, would i be comfortable if this particular show got recorded/pirated and spread all over the internet? for me, it's always a no for race-related shows. because even if it was consensual to the person in the show, out of context it might make me look like a huge bigot, and i have heard of a few cammodels who got a LOT of internet hate/harassment for doing racist roleplays and having their shows leak out for others to judge. just my two cents.

Genoveve
11-19-2021, 08:17 PM
I wonder about religious humiliation too.

ravenskyy
11-19-2021, 08:19 PM
here's a quote from the code of conduct that i found most relevant to this

"Streamate does not condone harassment. If you are found to be harassing, bothering, teasing, distracting and/or mocking others (either as a model or a member), your account may be suspended or terminated. Additionally, you may not engage in any unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically objectionable content."

to me that sounds like it's a no go.

i'll also add my personal way of determining whether or not i'll do a show even if it's within the rules. i always ask myself, would i be comfortable if this particular show got recorded/pirated and spread all over the internet? for me, it's always a no for race-related shows. because even if it was consensual to the person in the show, out of context it might make me look like a huge bigot, and i have heard of a few cammodels who got a LOT of internet hate/harassment for doing racist roleplays and having their shows leak out for others to judge. just my two cents.

I wish cammodels would stop doing shows like this. I'm so sick and tired of white men coming into my room and asking me if I'm ok with them calling me the n word and other disgusting, racist things. It doesn't help anyone. Just like the models breaking rules, showing vajayjay in free chat, this type of behavior is harmful to your fellow models. Please just say no. It isn't worth the dollar they offer you.

anonamiss
11-19-2021, 08:45 PM
I wonder about religious humiliation too.

i've never been asked for this but honestly it sounds like it'd be fun as hell

no pun intended? oops lol

minibagel
11-19-2021, 09:00 PM
i've heard a lot of models talk about getting suspended or banned on CB for basically no reason or a stupid reason, but in general yeah you can go on a token site and see just about anything happening on screen. to my knowledge the only thing MFC seemed to tighten way up on is telling models they weren't allowed to offer meet up raffles anymore after fosta-sesta passed.

what i'm not sure of if all of what you mentioned is actually "allowed", or if it's just a matter of various rules not being enforced. (edit: a quick glance at the MFC model rules wiki (https://wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Rules_for_Models) lists unauthorized people and excessive alcohol or drug consumption as being prohibited, for example, along with a lot of other stuff that is on SM's no no list.) so yeah, it's really just a matter of girls getting away with more over there because MFC doesn't care. in some ways i think that is worse.

i am still hugely in favor of SM for taking action and precaution around new laws and regulations (fosta-sesta, AB-5, mastercard) even if it means new rules for us, because i would rather work for a site that actually cares about making the site legally and financially compliant instead of saying "fuck it" and waiting to possibly get caught/taken down like all the other ones seem to do. but of course compliance doesn't matter worth shit if the site isn't FUNCTIONAL. SM gives us so many unnecessary "features" that literally no one asked for that cause glitches and make the site run like shit, while never seeming to listen to actual model feedback for features we want. it's getting really old and frustrating.

also, i have to assume SM has a reason behind every act that they prohibit on their site... i really hope it's for legal/financial reasons like i mentioned, and not just arbitrary even though it seems to be sometimes.


i forgot CB is super ban happy, but i think it’s more like freeloaders reporting models for any petty reason and cb just suspending instantly without even looking into it. on mfc members are allowed to share personal info if you look under 'Exchanging Contact Information'. weed and alcohol are allowed and models are allowed to charge for shots & play tipping/drinking games, you just can't get drunk even though ofc both models & members alike get plastered all the time. so you're right, MFC does not care to enforce this. still, you can openly drink & smoke on cam which i don't think is acceptable at all on SM. i don't see anything about copyright material on either site's rule list, but i think some SM girls are getting warnings for having logos on cam?

i'm looking at SM's performer code of conduct and for #3 it mentions anyone on cam has to be officially approved and age verified, but doesn't go into detail about what actually constitutes an ‘unauthorized person’-- it should be an obvious living, breathing person in the flesh, sitting right alongside the performer. a little random face on a screen should not count. it cannot possibly count on mfc/cb where they have a whole emote database full of hundreds of thousands of random faces and copyrighted material. Delivery said her webcam was pointed at the monitor. so again, i think Delivery's week long suspension was a pretty severe punishment, could have just given her a warning.

i agree with useless new features! what i would really appreciate is just a basic *search box* to instantly ban people from our chat & block them from messages. the current process is so laborious, the blocklist pages have frustratingly long load times (just me?), and i then have to make to make sure to block them from messages, chat room *and* messenger if they've messaged me there. like they can still write in messenger until they are officially blocked them messenger too. ugh. would also like an earnings counter built right onto the streaming page

Genoveve
11-19-2021, 09:21 PM
the blocklist pages have frustratingly long load times (just me?),

Nope, same here.

bigbum
11-19-2021, 09:27 PM
i've never been asked for this but honestly it sounds like it'd be fun as hell

no pun intended? oops lol
haha they want me to reject their brown cock for a black one. how its better.
or they want me to insult their black dick but then i end up "wanting it"
so mostly its stuff like that.
i dont want their "beanier cock " because i want a "bbc" and that its better
so weird cuck kink they all have
so idk it seems kinda middle of the road.
or i want a "n cock" if they are black they want me to say that. and beg them so IDK

i dont mind doing it, my husband is in the next room. he isnt even white. so idk. if i called him a beaner dick he just laugh
half my family is either black, brown we are a huge cultural melting pot. if they found out they would never care.
its part of the role play of ultimately wanting it in a some how positive context

seems a bit of a gray area. i might stop those as well
i get a lot of "snow bunny" ect requests and tags

i am just going to stop. its not worth it.
ill stick to only bbc worship in a pure context or something

kamiliam
11-19-2021, 09:39 PM
i've never been asked for this but honestly it sounds like it'd be fun as hell

no pun intended? oops lol

I had a blasphemy guy stop by the other night, who was really fun but I haven’t seen him in years. He didn’t do a show but first thought was-unfortunately can’t do the show…I think
Second thought- he must have been banned by ALL of his favorites who had the same thought as my first.

bigbum
11-19-2021, 11:49 PM
I had a blasphemy guy stop by the other night, who was really fun but I haven’t seen him in years. He didn’t do a show but first thought was-unfortunately can’t do the show…I think
Second thought- he must have been banned by ALL of his favorites who had the same thought as my first.
i had someone come and wanted my husband to eat me like food roast me in the oven and actually rub salt and peper and olive oil on me. like a weird food fantasy
LOL
camming does bring some cray cray people out .

its all in good fun.

if it makes them happy and i do a good job for them, its a win win

but if something isnt allowed. i dont want to get in trouble so i will just stop just to be sure with anything racial.. even in a "positive" way ect.

bigbum
11-19-2021, 11:57 PM
i dont mind doing it, my husband is in the next room. he isnt even white. so idk. if i called him a beaner dick he just laugh
half my family is either black, brown we are a huge cultural melting pot. if they found out they would never care.
its part of the role play of ultimately wanting it in a some how positive context

seems a bit of a gray area. i might stop those as well
i get a lot of "snow bunny" ect requests and tags

i am just going to stop. its not worth it.
ill stick to only bbc worship in a pure context or something

sorry hope this post didnt offend anyone! i just get these requests on the daily sometimes in waves.
if i couldnt discuss it with you ladies.. then who could i talk to about it? !
love you all.

ravenskyy
11-20-2021, 01:32 AM
sorry hope this post didnt offend anyone! i just get these requests on the daily sometimes in waves.
if i couldnt discuss it with you ladies.. then who could i talk to about it? !
love you all.

Not offended. You're just being honest. My husband is white, and when I mention the racist things men say or do, it upsets him. He gets pissed off FOR me. I also get a bunch of requests to dominate white men and treat them like dirt because they're white. As much as that group pisses me off, I don't want to do shows like that. I don't have it in me to treat someone poorly because of their skin color. It's not worth it to even try, imo.

~Carmen~
11-20-2021, 01:49 AM
It sounds like I picked the perfect week to take off because I moved.

ravenskyy
11-20-2021, 02:13 AM
So weird glitch. I went to check my total online hours for the week and I'm showing at over 25 Hours, however, I have 2 hours left before I make it to 25. Not sure what's happening, but I don't trust it. Is this happening to anyone else?

Miss_ShaSha
11-20-2021, 02:16 AM
It sounds like I picked the perfect week to take off because I moved.

Yay! Manifested it!!! & this week has been utter trash.

kamiliam
11-20-2021, 03:01 AM
So weird glitch. I went to check my total online hours for the week and I'm showing at over 25 Hours, however, I have 2 hours left before I make it to 25. Not sure what's happening, but I don't trust it. Is this happening to anyone else?

does it say the same in your earnings report when you select for the full week? Mine match, but I would screenshot both for support and still work the 2 hours if I was in that position.

freya_jade_
11-20-2021, 05:07 AM
I swear to god everyone, my stream became un-paused on its own while i was in the other room. I have no idea how, but be careful!

camgirl91
11-20-2021, 05:59 AM
Does anyone know if you signed up via Boleyn models with streamate, whether I have to delete that account and resign up again or if they can just take Boleyn off? How would I go about that? Thanks

Cutie101
11-20-2021, 06:24 AM
Does anyone know if you signed up via Boleyn models with streamate, whether I have to delete that account and resign up again or if they can just take Boleyn off? How would I go about that? Thanks

You simply talk to the Boleyn support and they will gladly close your account and set you free.

gbjenna
11-20-2021, 06:37 AM
You simply talk to the Boleyn support and they will gladly close your account and set you free.

From what I understand there’s a possibility you might lose all your customer notes though when released from a studio. Something to bare in mind

Ambercat
11-20-2021, 06:39 AM
From what I understand there’s a possibility you might lose all your customer notes though when released from a studio. Something to bare in mind

Yes you lose your notes. However if you speak to your regional rep they will put your blocklist onto your new account and you can also retain the people who have added you as a favourite.

Marina Starr
11-20-2021, 07:52 AM
Reflecting on race play. In MY experience guys that requested race play and wanted me to use the N-word are black guys.
I'm not comfortable with it because it's not something I use in real life. I strongly believe if I'm not comfortable with it then it should be something I should not be okay with in any setting.

Same goes for Trans girls or anyone that okay are with the word 'shemale'. I find that highly offensive and dehumanizing. It's a word that should not be okay in ANY setting.
I always call Trans girls and anyone that use that word out on it. You may have the "freedom" to say it but freedom isn't absolute.

gbjenna
11-20-2021, 08:36 AM
I’m pretty sure that race play was confirmed to be very much against the rules. Even if it wasn’t, I’d dread to think how easily it could be taken out of context or manipulated if the show got leaked or a client got upset and decided he wanted to do some damage.

Tbh I personally don’t think some kinks should be fed into when they potentially normalise stuff that really shouldn’t be normalised.. racism and incest/underage fantasies being prime examples.
It might be an innocent kink to the individual(s) but there’s the bigger picture to consider aswell, like with guys starting to expect all women to be ok with stuff like this etc. It could be highly damaging to some, being asked for such things, like being asked if they can be racially abused or suddenly being referred to as a child during a sex act.. that’s how I see it anyway

emkato
11-20-2021, 08:56 AM
It sounds like I picked the perfect week to take off because I moved.

girl SAME, although I am dog/house sitting for a friend for the week. I started off the week at home camming and they asked me last minute if my bf and I could help them out and they would pay us. After I read this forum thats all it took lol I said yep I'm gonna go hang out with some cute doggos and get paid for it. give my mind a break from the nightmare that has been SM lately.

Marina Starr
11-20-2021, 09:05 AM
Streamate must knew you were moving so they ran bonus week so you don't miss out, sis!


It sounds like I picked the perfect week to take off because I moved.

Marina Starr
11-20-2021, 09:06 AM
What a nice break from dick sitting.


girl SAME, although I am dog/house sitting for a friend for the week. I started off the week at home camming and they asked me last minute if my bf and I could help them out and they would pay us. After I read this forum thats all it took lol I said yep I'm gonna go hang out with some cute doggos and get paid for it. give my mind a break from the nightmare that has been SM lately.

ravenskyy
11-20-2021, 09:21 AM
Everything matches on both parts of the report and it still says the same thing this morning. I screenshot it before bed. I'm confused though. I'm pretty sure it's a glitch but I've never experienced that before.

minibagel
11-20-2021, 10:21 AM
I’m pretty sure that race play was confirmed to be very much against the rules. Even if it wasn’t, I’d dread to think how easily it could be taken out of context or manipulated if the show got leaked or a client got upset and decided he wanted to do some damage.

Tbh I personally don’t think some kinks should be fed into when they potentially normalise stuff that really shouldn’t be normalised.. racism and incest/underage fantasies being prime examples.
It might be an innocent kink to the individual(s) but there’s the bigger picture to consider aswell, like with guys starting to expect all women to be ok with stuff like this etc. It could be highly damaging to some, being asked for such things, like being asked if they can be racially abused or suddenly being referred to as a child during a sex act.. that’s how I see it anyway

another example that shouldn't be fed into, literally:


i had someone come and wanted my husband to eat me like food roast me in the oven and actually rub salt and peper and olive oil on me. like a weird food fantasy
LOL
camming does bring some cray cray people out .

its all in good fun.

if it makes them happy and i do a good job for them, its a win win


the vore fetish goes both ways, but personally i think you should run far away from any dude who starts talking like Armie Hammer. instaban and never look back. you don't want to revive The Cannibal Cafe and start attracting freaks who want to BBQ your ribs in exclusive. i don't really care if this is kink shaming, but these psychopaths like to wrap up their depraved little fantasies, tie a bow on it and call it a "fetish"

i have only ever once pretended to shrink someone down to the size of a pea and then pop them in my mouth and swallow them whole. this is like way different.

as a domme, it's easy for me to reject all kinds of shows. i only do what *i* want.

JessRyan
11-20-2021, 11:40 AM
I don't get the impression that MFC patrols their models like CB and now SM seem to do. As far as roleplay is concerned. I'm just refusing ALL roleplay and name calling 100% Suddenly "BB" sounds real good to me.

Just today another long term SM model on another forum said she was banned instantly for "mom" related chat.
And another SM model mentioned a chat BOT that SM uses that is to blame for flagging/closing accounts when a banned word is used in your chat.
i NEVER type while on SM except for "brb" BUT I'm concerned that this bot just responds to words typed even if the member types it??!!! If that's the case then my days are numbered. I get guys all day long "mommy" "mom"
hmmm it sure is a good way to get rid of EVERY model over 40, isn't it?? Just sayin'

These banned words should NOT even be allowed to type into chat. Not by model! Not by member. Why are banned words allowed in chat? I'd like to know. Why aren't WE protected??

whysky
11-20-2021, 11:52 AM
I don't get the impression that MFC patrols their models like CB and now SM seem to do. As far as roleplay is concerned. I'm just refusing ALL roleplay and name calling 100% Suddenly "BB" sounds real good to me.

Just today another long term SM model on another forum said she was banned instantly for "mom" related chat.
And another SM model mentioned a chat BOT that SM uses that is to blame for flagging/closing accounts when a banned word is used in your chat.
i NEVER type while on SM except for "brb" BUT I'm concerned that this bot just responds to words typed even if the member types it??!!! If that's the case then my days are numbered. I get guys all day long "mommy" "mom"
hmmm it sure is a good way to get rid of EVERY model over 40, isn't it?? Just sayin'

These banned words should NOT even be allowed to type into chat. Not by model! Not by member. Why are banned words allowed in chat? I'd like to know. Why aren't WE protected??

This! It’s not our job to monitor clients and report them for breaking rules!!!! We are the ones the site should be protecting. And they don’t even have the courtesy to tell us when the site is totally fucked. This whole “it’s on you to police anonymous members or you will be banned” is fucking outrageous.

I barely bother making notes about any clients, even if they are 3s or 4s. Why the hell would I waste time or attention on members who want to break rules?!

Also, Im super glad more of us are publicly against problematic kinks. Kink shaming isnt a universal bad. Some kinks deserve shaming, or at least educating people on.

JessRyan
11-20-2021, 11:58 AM
^^ I just banned a member the other day for using a banned word in exclusive. I didn't say a word, just banned him. I'm afraid to report or mention anything to support because I don't trust them. And don't want to draw any attention to myself.
The word he typed is a banned word. He shouldn't even be able to type it. And if they do, a little box pops up like on Onlyfans telling them it's restricted and NOT ALLOWED and that they may have their account closed if they type it again.
Oh wow, how nice would THAT be???
I'm just irritated with all the "protection" talk but yet we aren't. Such an EASY fucking fix.

MissTrust
11-20-2021, 12:09 PM
I just received a 1 star rating for telling a customer in exclusive to not use the N word. So not only are we responsible for reporting customers, we have to suffer the consequences when they don't like the rules. I already wrote to support about the unfair rating and since it was under 3 minutes I've always been able to get bad ratings removed. The weird thing is I BLOCKED him after I told him not to use that word and he still was able to rate me? This has never happened before. I still will have to wait over a week for this to be removed and my placement may be effected....all for enforcing streamates rules and my own boundaries. Lovely.

ravenskyy
11-20-2021, 12:36 PM
I've been instantly blocking members for using any word that I feel might be against the rules. This guy asked for taboo roleplay. Instant ban. Another said mom. Banned. One kept referring to himself as daddy. BYE BYE Idiot! I also report them too. Doesn't take much time and I enjoy thinking about their accounts getting closed.

I don't even care anymore. I'm not losing my account because you're a POS that needs therapy. And any quality customers that are even worth my time, won't ask me for that shit anyway, so no loss to me. Once I saw that the rules were getting more strict, I got more strict. I tolerate less, I will call people out more often and I ban more idiots. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. Ain't nobody got time for that foolishness lol

Des
11-20-2021, 01:16 PM
I just received a 1 star rating for telling a customer in exclusive to not use the N word. So not only are we responsible for reporting customers, we have to suffer the consequences when they don't like the rules. I already wrote to support about the unfair rating and since it was under 3 minutes I've always been able to get bad ratings removed. The weird thing is I BLOCKED him after I told him not to use that word and he still was able to rate me? This has never happened before. I still will have to wait over a week for this to be removed and my placement may be effected....all for enforcing streamates rules and my own boundaries. Lovely.

I had this 1+year ago. Posted here on page 1304 when someone else had the same thing happen. Ever since i never block someone who is in pvr or excl and can rate me bad.

minibagel
11-20-2021, 01:23 PM
^^ I just banned a member the other day for using a banned word in exclusive. I didn't say a word, just banned him. I'm afraid to report or mention anything to support because I don't trust them. And don't want to draw any attention to myself.
The word he typed is a banned word. He shouldn't even be able to type it. And if they do, a little box pops up like on Onlyfans telling them it's restricted and NOT ALLOWED and that they may have their account closed if they type it again.
Oh wow, how nice would THAT be???
I'm just irritated with all the "protection" talk but yet we aren't. Such an EASY fucking fix.

good point, AVN has the same popup. MFC does it even better with their chat filter which lets models block any words they want from their chat rooms. what a complete joke that streamate tries to dump the responsibility onto us. as if they would ever create a feature like this to improve a model's experience/comfort, they only seem to make new features that would make the site more money (like the dumb wishlist with fixed items and prices & the activity feed where you can't sell over 10G lol).

so, models are currently getting banned for what users type in chat, yet worthless freeloaders can say whatever vile things they want to us and continue to spoil the site with their misery? i've reported death threats that i have received and i bet nothing ever came of it.

roseforarose
11-20-2021, 03:44 PM
personally i think you should run far away from any dude who starts talking like Armie Hammer. instaban and never look back. you don't want to revive The Cannibal Cafe and start attracting freaks who want to BBQ your ribs in exclusive.

100% agree with this, I don't think a sexual fantasy of murder and cannibalism is really a 'weird food fetish'. Food fetishes typically involve sploshing or food etc, not 'I want your husband to (murder) cook, and eat your body' - which is 1000% going to be against the rules btw!

I'm probably hypervigilant, but I also think indulging guys with violent fantasies is dangerous, not all of them are stable people! Especially not if they're tricking models into thinking it's some innocent quirk. Cannibalism...a fun jaunt they said! :O:D

liquidsilk
11-20-2021, 03:57 PM
Did my 25 hours, some days the paid chat % was so low it was mainly tips and video sales for entire shifts. Weeks like this worry me about the performer code of conduct:

Streamate performer accounts can be terminated based on performance level or quality. Performers should strive to maintain a reasonable performance level of time in paid chat vs time online.

Could we get banned for just not getting enough shows? Seems like bans come for anything lately.

kamiliam
11-20-2021, 03:58 PM
They just need to block these phrases they or the AI hate.

Like am I supposed to block a consistent customer, who I know for sure is black, because he types the soft a they allow in reference to himself? I don’t do r*ce play or use/say slurs, but have plenty of black guys who I love doing shows with. It’s not my place or responsibility. Yeah the guy should just stop, but sm could add it to the blocked words list. All the spellings too.

Luckygoldfish
11-20-2021, 04:26 PM
There's another camgirl forum where you can post your reviews about the websites and there's a page for Streamate. The whole team is there, including Liz. Lately some people have been ranting non stop there and they do read it all, there's at least 10 Streamate Representatives there.

Well I'm not sure if they truly give af about bad reviews, although the whole forum can read it, IMO we have to speak out for all these damn issues and lack of traffic.

What’s the name of the forum please

SuperPookie
11-20-2021, 04:30 PM
I get a lot of raceplay shows and haven't seen anything that said they were a no no. If that has just changed than they need to send out a frigging email or something. Also Giantess Vore is a pretty common request for me and I have videos of it that support never said anything about.

~Carmen~
11-20-2021, 05:13 PM
girl SAME, although I am dog/house sitting for a friend for the week. I started off the week at home camming and they asked me last minute if my bf and I could help them out and they would pay us. After I read this forum thats all it took lol I said yep I'm gonna go hang out with some cute doggos and get paid for it. give my mind a break from the nightmare that has been SM lately.

A break can do wonders. I'm glad you enjoyed the doggies! Focusing on something else for awhile makes you better when you go back.

I have not taken a real break in so long. It's hard to give yourself "permission" and not feel guilty. I'm taking a little time to relax and settle in. Moving is hard work.

roseforarose
11-20-2021, 05:44 PM
I get a lot of raceplay shows and haven't seen anything that said they were a no no. If that has just changed than they need to send out a frigging email or something. Also Giantess Vore is a pretty common request for me and I have videos of it that support never said anything about.

The TOS has a rule against 'racially or ethnically objectionable content' which I'm guessing raceplay could come under if/when they want it to, someone posted a bigger chunk of the TOS a few pages back

bigbum
11-20-2021, 05:54 PM
I've been instantly blocking members for using any word that I feel might be against the rules. This guy asked for taboo roleplay. Instant ban. Another said mom. Banned. One kept referring to himself as daddy. BYE BYE Idiot! I also report them too. Doesn't take much time and I enjoy thinking about their accounts getting closed.

I don't even care anymore. I'm not losing my account because you're a POS that needs therapy. And any quality customers that are even worth my time, won't ask me for that shit anyway, so no loss to me. Once I saw that the rules were getting more strict, I got more strict. I tolerate less, I will call people out more often and I ban more idiots. I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed. Ain't nobody got time for that foolishness lol
you are a wise women. i will learn from your ways.
i totally agree!!!
i am going to do the same. thank you for your post raven!!

bigbum
11-20-2021, 06:00 PM
these comments are a perfect showcase of how legitimately scary sm is becoming. i don’t think SM cares if we walk off cam during a bonus week, but the fact that models are paranoid enough to even have these fears and concerns in the first place just proves how insanely strict SM has become, and tbh always has been with their ever growing list of rules & restrictions.

it is still the wild west on other cam sites, especially mfc & cb. there is a lot more freedom, and i’m talking real unshackled freedom where precisely *zero* models are worried about getting suspended for walking off cam at any point during the month long Miss MFC contest, getting in trouble for what members type in your chat room, wearing logos on their clothes, having a tv playing in the background, etc. why would any of that matter when these platforms allow girls to smoke weed & drink alcohol on cam, girls can charge tips for shots and get blackout drunk. models can take copyrighted material like movies or video games and overlay them right onto their OBS streams. customers are even allowed to share personal info directly on the site for models to mail physical goods/prizes such as homemade cookies, photo prints, panties, etc. they don't even care if you want to go offsite to skype (as long as you pay in tokens). they only forbid advertising direct competitors. wild wild west!

remember when Delivery got suspended for showing porn on her phone? both mfc & cb have a massive database of gifs/emotes available for use in chat rooms. this includes custom cam girl emotes, celebrity/tv/movie emotes, athletes/sports, cartoons, corporate logos, any copyrighted material you can think of is probably in the database. it also includes PORN GIFS. nobody over there is getting a week long suspension for having 'unauthorized people' showing on stream, sm just likes to take it to the Next F*cking Level. it is pretty easy to distinguish a real, live person on the stream vs. someone obviously not physically present, like a tiny face on a phone or tv screen. so the fact that delivery was suspended for a week over this was both terrifying and way beyond harsh especially without any clear rules at the time.

i think mini this post sums up all of our comments and concerns. great summary and insight . i hope sm reps read your words.

bigbum
11-20-2021, 06:03 PM
So weird glitch. I went to check my total online hours for the week and I'm showing at over 25 Hours, however, I have 2 hours left before I make it to 25. Not sure what's happening, but I don't trust it. Is this happening to anyone else?

i always stay on 25 minutes extra or 15 minutes or more atleast just to cover my ass incase of a glitch. i highly advise that for the future and try to complete hours on a friday if you can so you arent on saturday trying to count the minutes and stressing.
thats just what i have found has been working for me. its less stress
also log out, log back on and make sure the time has been calculated with extra minutes to spare. just in case.

bigbum
11-20-2021, 06:08 PM
100% agree with this, I don't think a sexual fantasy of murder and cannibalism is really a 'weird food fetish'. Food fetishes typically involve sploshing or food etc, not 'I want your husband to (murder) cook, and eat your body' - which is 1000% going to be against the rules btw!

I'm probably hypervigilant, but I also think indulging guys with violent fantasies is dangerous, not all of them are stable people! Especially not if they're tricking models into thinking it's some innocent quirk. Cannibalism...a fun jaunt they said! :O:D

its hard to explain but it didnt seem like that that the customer was very very nice respectful pays very well.
doesnt like the words that involve blood or anything or eating ppl or stuff omg no.
.and he always rights any request with (if you are ok with that.. or if its possible ) and please and thank you every second.
it was more of a visual thing like a turkey roast spit roast IDK lol weird LOL.
apparently it is a real fetish for photos of like food things.
sometimes people with weird kinks can be very nice and generous tippers IMO
it was more of a food thing. he hated any sort of eating words ect and didnt want the word slicing ect ect.
i try to keep an open mind to make clients happy if they go over board or break the rules (the rules that i know of atleast) i ban them right away and report right away.