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bigbum
11-20-2021, 06:10 PM
The TOS has a rule against 'racially or ethnically objectionable content' which I'm guessing raceplay could come under if/when they want it to, someone posted a bigger chunk of the TOS a few pages back

i wish they would list banned words, banned shows more specifically like they did with the sleeping and daddy thing. that was super helpful
i would feel so much more in control of my future with no fear, if i knew what words and exact shows to block.
i am sure we all would!
SM tell me what do , what not to do and ill go to work for you with full effort and heart!

minibagel
11-20-2021, 06:31 PM
its hard to explain but it didnt seem like that that the customer was very very nice respectful pays very well.
doesnt like the words that involve blood or anything or eating ppl or stuff omg no.
.and he always rights any request with (if you are ok with that.. or if its possible ) and please and thank you every second.
it was more of a visual thing like a turkey roast spit roast IDK lol weird LOL.
apparently it is a real fetish for photos of like food things.
sometimes people with weird kinks can be very nice and generous tippers IMO
it was more of a food thing. he hated any sort of eating words ect and didnt want the word slicing ect ect.
i try to keep an open mind to make clients happy if they go over board or break the rules (the rules that i know of atleast) i ban them right away and report right away.

these freaks prey on your naivety and innocence lol. that is exactly he is into, putting women on a spitroast over a campfire. it's up to you what kind of shows you want to entertain. you don't have to do whatever a guy wants just bc they pay you

personally i'd block so fast if i got a "bb can you salt and pepper yourself and jump in the oven for me" :rip:

JessRyan
11-20-2021, 07:38 PM
What’s the name of the forum please

wecamgirls is a forum and ambercutie is another.

wecamgirls has a model section you must be approved camgirl to access which is pretty informative. In their section "camsite reviews" I've seen the streamate reps reply and respond to posts within the streamate section.
Ambercute too. The reps seem to be more active on those forums.

anonamiss
11-20-2021, 08:45 PM
these freaks prey on your naivety and innocence lol. that is exactly he is into, putting women on a spitroast over a campfire. it's up to you what kind of shows you want to entertain. you don't have to do whatever a guy wants just bc they pay you

personally i'd block so fast if i got a "bb can you salt and pepper yourself and jump in the oven for me" :rip:

i had a guy who was into this roleplay (maybe the same dude) and honestly i thought it was hilarious. super easy show, i'd rub my legs and describe all the spices he could marinate my calves and thighs in before roasting. a few times he had me grab an apple and put it in my mouth the way you would for a pig over an open fire. it was fun, and certainly way better than toying myself for some boring ungrateful douchebag.

like bigbum's experience, he was also really nice, as a lot of guys with strange/unconventional fetishes tend to be. they're just happy someone will enthusiastically act out their fantasy and not judge them for it.

now obviously we're all at our own discretion and are entitled to rejecting things that make us uncomfortable. like you said, it's up to us. but no need to accuse us of being "preyed on" just because we're more accepting of performing someone's weird fetish when you aren't.

what he's into is a FANTASY. i hate when people, especially in this industry, equate a fantasy to doing it in real life. guys who are into consensual age play are not pedophiles, just like guys who are into vore roleplay are not real cannibals. sheesh.

minibagel
11-20-2021, 09:17 PM
^^bigbum & i are pals so i said that to her with love.

ya i get that it’s a fantasy, but i really question this vore fetish. i’m not talking about giantess vore like i described in my last post. that was a fun, silly session. there is a major difference when you are roleplaying as predator vs. prey. especially when a man is the pred.

i really question the vore fetish when a *man* is the pred. imo vore is not even in the same realm as consensual AP... no no (imo) it crosses over into the land of rape fantasy, torture/mutilation, snuff, strangulation, chloro, just like any other kind of violent fantasy. i will not season myself with olive oil S&P just like i won't pretend to chloro myself and pass out. to each their own.

also, as i said on the previous page i think a lot of abusive, power hungry men like to hide behind BDSM and fetish/kink. when in reality they are just straight up dangerous and mentally disturbed.

anonamiss
11-20-2021, 09:28 PM
^^bigbum & i are pals so i said that to her with love.

ya i get that it’s a fantasy, but i really question this vore fetish. i’m not talking about giantess vore like i described in my last post. that was a fun, silly session. there is a major difference when you are roleplaying as predator vs. prey. especially when a man is the pred.

i really question the vore fetish. imo vore is not even in the same realm as consensual AP... no no (imo) it crosses over into the land of rape fantasy, torture/mutilation, snuff, strangulation, chloro, just like any other kind of violent fantasy. i will not season myself with olive oil S&P just like i won't pretend to chloro myself and pass out. to each their own.

also, as i said on the previous page i think a lot of abusive men like to hide behind BDSM and fetish/kink. when in reality they are just dangerous and mentally disturbed.

okay but the same can totally be said for women, but no one here probably wants to admit or discuss it. i guarantee there are mentally disturbed, sexist women who get into professional sex work (particularly domme work) because they are abusive at their core and use the kink angle to "hide" it/get away with it. so your point is kind of moot.

i'm not denying that some people may hide behind a fetish facade when they might actually be dangerous. i don't take on bdsm shows just because someone asks, even though i'm super into a lot of masochistic things. tons of guys just use it an excuse to be abusive and don't understand the concept of consent or after care, so yes, use your best judgment for sure. but i got no weird vibes from this particular vore guy. you've literally never interacted with him but seem to be judging both him and us, alluding to him as a possible freak/predator and us as prey, based on *positive* comments we've made about our experience. i just feel like there's no need for that, other than you kink shaming and making assumptions with no base.

minibagel
11-20-2021, 09:52 PM
okay but the same can totally be said for women, but no one here probably wants to admit or discuss it. i guarantee there are mentally disturbed, sexist women who get into professional sex work (particularly domme work) because they are abusive at their core and use the kink angle to "hide" it/get away with it. so your point is kind of moot.

i'm not denying that some people may hide behind a fetish facade when they might actually be dangerous. i don't take on bdsm shows just because someone asks, even though i'm super into a lot of masochistic things. tons of guys just use it an excuse to be abusive and don't understand the concept of consent or after care, so yes, use your best judgment for sure. but i got no weird vibes from this particular vore guy. you've literally never interacted with him but seem to be judging both him and us, alluding to him as a possible freak/predator and us as prey, based on *positive* comments we've made about our experience. i just feel like there's no need for that, other than you kink shaming and making assumptions with no base.

you're right, it goes both ways. i'm sure some mentally disturbed ladies will hide behind a dominatrix title.

still that is way different than men dressing up their violent desires as a "kink". violence is more prevalent in men than the other way around. i'm willing to bet most ppl into spitroasting a human over campfire, torture, kidnapping, chloro are *men*. so will always question any violent fantasies toward women... sorry that i offended you or anyone else who might want to be eaten. i don't mean that to sound snarky, i remember now another girl on a different forum wanted to be eaten. i'm not judging you or your vore friend personally, it was just a general criticism

laurielegs
11-20-2021, 11:35 PM
UGH... first damn show I get after I finally get back online after being sick with that allergic reaction and the guy wants SPH, starts talking about his tiny cock like a boy. I warn him and told him if he says boy again he 's banned. He said OK tiny cock, tiny!

I screenshotted and saved the conversation after he left. Such a pain but I want something to defend myself if I get suspended. I'm making a note on the guy's profile that I did warn him and making a folder and uploading them all to my google drive so I wont lose the screenshots.

Honestly if I didn't make the most on SM usually I'd just leave the site but I need the cash. Just read yet another host talk about getting their account deleted today.

bigbum
11-20-2021, 11:51 PM
i had a guy who was into this roleplay (maybe the same dude) and honestly i thought it was hilarious. super easy show, i'd rub my legs and describe all the spices he could marinate my calves and thighs in before roasting. a few times he had me grab an apple and put it in my mouth the way you would for a pig over an open fire. it was fun, and certainly way better than toying myself for some boring ungrateful douchebag.

like bigbum's experience, he was also really nice, as a lot of guys with strange/unconventional fetishes tend to be. they're just happy someone will enthusiastically act out their fantasy and not judge them for it.

now obviously we're all at our own discretion and are entitled to rejecting things that make us uncomfortable. like you said, it's up to us. but no need to accuse us of being "preyed on" just because we're more accepting of performing someone's weird fetish when you aren't.

what he's into is a FANTASY. i hate when people, especially in this industry, equate a fantasy to doing it in real life. guys who are into consensual age play are not pedophiles, just like guys who are into vore roleplay are not real cannibals. sheesh.

omg yes its the same client for sure. you found him to be a very good spender correct? and very polite? always says "if its ok" or "if you want" ect ect. yes the apple and rubbing salt or oil
i can see how it would come across as weird and something it wasnt to others on here.
its one of those youd have to have been there type of things
i think you described it better than me!
haah so funny how its the same clients over and over that go around and around.
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bigbum
11-20-2021, 11:55 PM
^^bigbum & i are pals so i said that to her with love.

ya i get that itÂ’s a fantasy, but i really question this vore fetish. iÂ’m not talking about giantess vore like i described in my last post. that was a fun, silly session. there is a major difference when you are roleplaying as predator vs. prey. especially when a man is the pred.

i really question the vore fetish when a *man* is the pred. imo vore is not even in the same realm as consensual AP... no no (imo) it crosses over into the land of rape fantasy, torture/mutilation, snuff, strangulation, chloro, just like any other kind of violent fantasy. i will not season myself with olive oil S&P just like i won't pretend to chloro myself and pass out. to each their own.

also, as i said on the previous page i think a lot of abusive, power hungry men like to hide behind BDSM and fetish/kink. when in reality they are just straight up dangerous and mentally disturbed.
i get where you are coming from. different opinions is what makes this group fun
i love hearing what your perspectives.

bigbum
11-20-2021, 11:58 PM
UGH... first damn show I get after I finally get back online after being sick with that allergic reaction and the guy wants SPH, starts talking about his tiny cock like a boy. I warn him and told him if he says boy again he 's banned. He said OK tiny cock, tiny!

I screenshotted and saved the conversation after he left. Such a pain but I want something to defend myself if I get suspended. I'm making a note on the guy's profile that I did warn him and making a folder and uploading them all to my google drive so I wont lose the screenshots.

Honestly if I didn't make the most on SM usually I'd just leave the site but I need the cash. Just read yet another host talk about getting their account deleted today.

i dont get it. how are you responsible for someone elses words? you cant control that.
you cant control what they say or if they write skype or their phone number or anything at all.
that bothers me that you have to be loosing sleep over something like that.

id say we are all reading too far into things , maybe being a bit dramatic without fears. but then you say someone else got deleted that you know?

laurielegs
11-21-2021, 12:08 AM
i dont get it. how are you responsible for someone elses words? you cant control that.
you cant control what they say or if they write skype or their phone number or anything at all.
that bothers me that you have to be loosing sleep over something like that.

id say we are all reading too far into things , maybe being a bit dramatic without fears. but then you say someone else got deleted that you know?

From what I understand the customer made it seem like she was playing along and she lost her account. I read about it on ambercutie's board.

Just blocked a diaper guy too. He wanted to show me a full diaper, god. why do I attract these guys.

bigbum
11-21-2021, 12:14 AM
From what I understand the customer made it seem like she was playing along and she lost her account. I read about it on ambercutie's board.

Just blocked a diaper guy too. He wanted to show me a full diaper, god. why do I attract these guys.

oh god diaper boy. dont get me started that guy is sooo fucking fake . he has been around for liek 1 year . so full of shit Pun intended haha
i banned him months ago
anything with diaper is an instant ban.

honestly though even then i dont judge. if sitting in a diaper brings someone joy. honestly who the fuck cares.

FloridaSunDoll
11-21-2021, 01:01 AM
Just like clock work...the bonus event ends and my traffic is back and my hourly is triple what its been all week....SO glad it's over

izshadow
11-21-2021, 09:44 AM
Music is allowed? Or it is still an unknown?

JessRyan
11-21-2021, 12:15 PM
i dont get it. how are you responsible for someone elses words? you cant control that.
you cant control what they say or if they write skype or their phone number or anything at all.
that bothers me that you have to be loosing sleep over something like that.

id say we are all reading too far into things , maybe being a bit dramatic without fears. but then you say someone else got deleted that you know?

I've read in another forum that Streamate has a BOT in our chat that flags certain words. Models have been terminated due to words members have written. Of course we have NO CONTROL over this bot (like on other sites) and why not just ban the forbidden words from the get go?
Anyway, this is what I read. Makes sense and nothing surprises me in this world. Remember not too long ago when we couldn't type the misc words in the gold show description?
I no longer type in my chat. If you can't hear me, sucks to be you.

anonamiss
11-21-2021, 12:17 PM
Just like clock work...the bonus event ends and my traffic is back and my hourly is triple what its been all week....SO glad it's over

same. i struggled to have more than one guy come in every five minutes during bonus week and hardly any of them would say a word; last night i had constant traffic and lots of nice guys who were actually engaging. was able to get a gold show for the first time in forever with 20+ people joining which was great.

JessRyan
11-21-2021, 12:18 PM
From what I understand the customer made it seem like she was playing along and she lost her account. I read about it on ambercutie's board.

Just blocked a diaper guy too. He wanted to show me a full diaper, god. why do I attract these guys.

NO feitsh NO kink NO roleplay for me LOL I hear Hall & Oats, "no can do, I can't go for that..."

izshadow
11-21-2021, 01:14 PM
KinkyboyGood, lol you look so much like my aunt lol

Immediate block. God this is giving all of us to much stress.

Marina Starr
11-21-2021, 03:09 PM
I just wanted to say I hate doing SPH and domination shows so much. Always felt being put on the spot and not knowing what to say. I will stop doing them. In person is a totally different story, I can bite their heads off effortlessly.

Most SPH guys just want to show off their dicks and leave. I don't do minutes shows.

VVV
11-21-2021, 03:20 PM
Well traffic higher for sure! Just me getting all time wasters and freeloaders!! I made my usual Sunday however... blocking more than 30guyssss!! ...

Marina Starr
11-21-2021, 04:02 PM
Not sure why but Sundays are my most blocked days.

On a good Sunday, I typically blocked about 50, great Sunday even more.

I thought I'd ease up on blocking once I started my bipolar (batshit crazy) meds but I guess that isn't one of the side effects.


Well traffic higher for sure! Just me getting all time wasters and freeloaders!! I made my usual Sunday however... blocking more than 30guyssss!! ...

laurielegs
11-21-2021, 04:29 PM
oh god diaper boy. dont get me started that guy is sooo fucking fake . he has been around for liek 1 year . so full of shit Pun intended haha
i banned him months ago
anything with diaper is an instant ban.

honestly though even then i dont judge. if sitting in a diaper brings someone joy. honestly who the fuck cares.


I really don't care if a grown man wants to get off sitting in an adult diaper, but first thing he does is try to say how mommy's baby has shit in his diaper, take a look mommy.

Not getting myself banned by participating.

liquidsilk
11-21-2021, 04:41 PM
The mommy guys are so ignorant of consent too. In my experience, over 10 years, I can honestly only think of 2 guys who asked if that was a roleplay that I offer. Bla bla bla stepmother negotiations etc and away we go. Literally every other time it just starts in free chat 'hi mommy'.

The Daddy guys have a much better hit rate consent wise but there are still a few that just roll straight into their storyline in free chat, typing away with gay abandon.

I make it a point to stop what I am doing and tell every one of the mommy guys why initiating a role play with out asking is a shitty thing to do, but even more when it is a sensitive or controversial one like mommy. Why would you come somewhere and talk to (usually exclusively) women like that? How many women have fertility issues or bereavements and really truly do not want some thoughtless moron rocking up at her work and calling her mommy as if it's just something that is acceptable because big boober porn lady no have feelings.

Vlodina
11-21-2021, 04:47 PM
Are we allowed to do stepmum etc roleplays now? I feel like it was a grey area even before all this new stuff...
And what about blackmail roleplays? Guessing that's a no, although I would never go through with anything in real life!

Halestorm
11-21-2021, 05:02 PM
Omg. I have a schedule private with this member and he just won't take me damn private. He is on free chat talking non stop about his dead friend for 20 minutes now. I am STRESSED

JustMilfnAround
11-21-2021, 05:05 PM
Well traffic higher for sure! Just me getting all time wasters and freeloaders!! I made my usual Sunday however... blocking more than 30guyssss!! ...

OMG the blocking today was UNREAL! I blocked more guys today than I have in the last 2 months combined! I just remembered that the college guys are on break.... so there's that... I've always noticed it gets worse in there when the college guys are on break.

roseforarose
11-21-2021, 07:20 PM
Is the block function glitching for anyone? Just blocked someone, either they came back with the same account, or a second account with the same name- blocked again. Went to go check my blacklist and their username and block isn't there at all. I can see the guys I blocked shortly before them but :/

also, I forgot how fucking RACIST the American crowd is! I'd gotten used to daytimes with UK/EU customers, do a nightshift for the first time in months and it's crawling with racists again. Like...at least 30% of the guys who've talked to me today. At this point I'm reporting every single one of them raceplay or otherwise they can fuck right off. Also, most of them are spelling 'raceplay' with variant spellings now, so I'm guessing members are maybe starting to get banned for it?

liquidsilk
11-22-2021, 01:33 AM
It is one of the words that are filtered out. If a message contains race play, ageplay, n word, f word, onlyfans etc the message doesnt even show. Would be nice to be informed of this rather than have to work out the list ourselves.

CatBBW
11-22-2021, 07:23 AM
I came back to update this. My bank declined the check, stating they are unable to undertake certain types of transaction as it may damage their reputation, and that I am not allowed to use their services for similar types of transactions from now on. Great.

So I am either going to have to open an account with another bank, or set up an account with a middle man payment processor for alllll my sites.



(BTW, the check was declined on 16th September, the cover letter when it was returned was dated that too, yet it took them all this time (plus numerous calls from me) to send it back to me.)



Has anyone had a SM check returned to them recently? My bank is returning one from SM, I don't know the reason yet until it gets back to my local (UK) branch, so am wondering what happened. Have they changed their checking bank account? I got the check in June but couldn't get to the bank for a couple of months due to Covid restrictions, not wanting to use public transport, reduced opening hours etc, so the only thing I can think of - apart from SM possibly changing banks - is that the amount of time they (whoever) have hung on to the check (ELEVEN WEEKS!) has taken it outside of the validity period.

(I am changing my payment method if SM allows me as I can't be bothered faffing about depositing checks and waiting such a long time for clearance when the bank teller ticks the wrong box! Only to have the check returned!)

Ambercat
11-22-2021, 07:29 AM
I just had a very brief (2 mins) pvt and the tips showed up but the show hasn't in my earnings. Is anyone else having glitches? I don't wantt o bug support it it's already been reported.

Marina Starr
11-22-2021, 07:56 AM
Fuck them!

I have a few questions. Was your check written as ICF Technology? I don't think Streamate even comes up when you google. If so, I don't know how they would know.

Did you mobile deposited the check?


I came back to update this. My bank declined the check, stating they are unable to undertake certain types of transaction as it may damage their reputation, and that I am not allowed to use their services for similar types of transactions from now on. Great.

So I am either going to have to open an account with another bank, or set up an account with a middle man payment processor for alllll my sites.



(BTW, the check was declined on 16th September, the cover letter when it was returned was dated that too, yet it took them all this time (plus numerous calls from me) to send it back to me.)

emkato
11-22-2021, 09:35 AM
Omg. I have a schedule private with this member and he just won't take me damn private. He is on free chat talking non stop about his dead friend for 20 minutes now. I am STRESSED

just another example of these dudes taking, taking, and taking some more. draining us of our sanity for their selfish needs. I have put up with the non stop free chat talkers a lot in order to secure a show but I recommend just blatantly showing disinterest and keep your answers short, or straight up tell him to go into a paid show for more in depth conversation. yeah its sad if his friend really passed but we aren't free therapy. its extremely unfair for them to take advantage of us like that.

naughtybabe1
11-22-2021, 09:37 AM
Omg..the "hi mommy" and mom/son" trolls are in full force today. Jesus! Ban ban ban

roseforarose
11-22-2021, 09:58 AM
I came back to update this. My bank declined the check, stating they are unable to undertake certain types of transaction as it may damage their reputation, and that I am not allowed to use their services for similar types of transactions from now on. Great.

So I am either going to have to open an account with another bank, or set up an account with a middle man payment processor for alllll my sites.



(BTW, the check was declined on 16th September, the cover letter when it was returned was dated that too, yet it took them all this time (plus numerous calls from me) to send it back to me.)

Not sure what bank you're with but Halifax are pretty chill with sw cheques- I'm not with them anymore so am chill with sharing that info lol. I used them for clipsite cheques for a while with no hassle, that was a few years back though so not sure if they've changed their tune.

I'm having the struggle of finding new banks too though, got rejected from a popular one that I wanted to use for crypto fiat- I had to explain the crpyto money would be from SW and they weren't happy with that! Banks here can be so backwards, even the newer 'online only' ones

roseforarose
11-22-2021, 10:00 AM
I just had a very brief (2 mins) pvt and the tips showed up but the show hasn't in my earnings. Is anyone else having glitches? I don't wantt o bug support it it's already been reported.

I'm having glitches! My earnings are showing fine but for the past day or two anyone with a name like 'user122345' hasn't been showing in chat. I see them log in and out but they never show on the side...everyone else shows fine though

gbjenna
11-22-2021, 10:34 AM
I just had a very brief (2 mins) pvt and the tips showed up but the show hasn't in my earnings. Is anyone else having glitches? I don't wantt o bug support it it's already been reported.

You need to contact support. Make sure you explain very explicitly though that the private lasted longer than the minimum though, because I got a pay adjustment for my first one but the second time they told me I don’t get paid for less than the x amount of free time, and the guy stayed for almost double that. Still waiting on the response to that now.

Ambercat
11-22-2021, 10:53 AM
Thanks Rose & Jenna. I've shot them a message. I logged off right after because I'd already messaged them earlier today about a pvt who changed to excl (also over x free time had passed) with only their excl show appearing in my earnings. I don't want to be recording every single transaction to have to compare it to my earnings, i've got enough else going on with my day than monitoring their problems.

Marina Starr
11-22-2021, 12:15 PM
Maybe it's the Holidays but I don't feel like selling pussy at all this week. Thank God I have all expenses covered that are due December 1st.

I MAY participate in the contest and doing cooking goldshows all day wearing a see through apron.

anonamiss
11-22-2021, 12:19 PM
It is one of the words that are filtered out. If a message contains race play, ageplay, n word, f word, onlyfans etc the message doesnt even show. Would be nice to be informed of this rather than have to work out the list ourselves.

last night a guy in free chat's text came up as "can you say for me in exclusive?" (clearly missing a word)

i told him looks like you've been censored, whatever word you just asked me to say didn't go through the chat, so the answer is no... i insisted he not try to spell it out with numbers or any other way. whatever he asked for was against the rules. but it all seems so arbitrary. only some words are censored, yet if they have this capability already why not just do it for all rule breaking words. so frustrating.

i also chatted with several regs in free chat last night about how strict things are becoming and how i really don't want to have to insta-ban any of them for overstepping a rule, since it seems like we as models can get in trouble for telling them "stop, that is against the rules" rather than blocking and reporting. i don't want to have to immediately block a reg i've known for years just because he slipped up on something he *didn't know* was a rule breaker. so they started asking about what is against the rules, but it makes me nervous to talk about for obvious reasons. it's a catch 22! how can they learn if we can't tell them...

i asked the guys if they had any kind of FAQ like the models now do, they all said they've never seen one. i also half joked that no customer reads the terms of service when they sign up to a porn site so i would assume the rules might be in there, but one of the guys actually said he skimmed through it and it doesn't go over anything prohibited. i am not sure if that is true, but either way these guys need a rules list that we can easily point them to. it's getting stressful hearing about other models getting banned for customer behavior that is totally out of our control.

SoloDesire
11-22-2021, 12:35 PM
last night a guy in free chat's text came up as "can you say for me in exclusive?" (clearly missing a word)

i told him looks like you've been censored, whatever word you just asked me to say didn't go through the chat, so the answer is no... i insisted he not try to spell it out with numbers or any other way. whatever he asked for was against the rules. but it all seems so arbitrary. only some words are censored, yet if they have this capability already why not just do it for all rule breaking words. so frustrating.

i also chatted with several regs in free chat last night about how strict things are becoming and how i really don't want to have to insta-ban any of them for overstepping a rule, since it seems like we as models can get in trouble for telling them "stop, that is against the rules" rather than blocking and reporting. i don't want to have to immediately block a reg i've known for years just because he slipped up on something he *didn't know* was a rule breaker. so they started asking about what is against the rules, but it makes me nervous to talk about for obvious reasons. it's a catch 22! how can they learn if we can't tell them...

i asked the guys if they had any kind of FAQ like the models now do, they all said they've never seen one. i also half joked that no customer reads the terms of service when they sign up to a porn site so i would assume the rules might be in there, but one of the guys actually said he skimmed through it and it doesn't go over anything prohibited. i am not sure if that is true, but either way these guys need a rules list that we can easily point them to. it's getting stressful hearing about other models getting banned for customer behavior that is totally out of our control.

Yes, there is one...although I don't think they are made to read it when creating an account. It's just a link at the bottom of the site for Streamate to cover their asses. https://streamate.com/docs/terms-and-conditions

They should have to click "accept" when creating an account and anytime it's changed, just as we have to. It's total bullshit.

izshadow
11-22-2021, 12:38 PM
user4583 has logged on

So why are these "users" not showing up in our room?

kamiliam
11-22-2021, 12:43 PM
Yes, there is one...although I don't think they are made to read it when creating an account. It's just a link at the bottom of the site for Streamate to cover their asses. https://streamate.com/docs/terms-and-conditions

They should have to click "accept" when creating an account and anytime it's changed, just as we have to. It's total bullshit.


It stresses the over 18 and trafficking part, but mentions nothing about fetishes that are not allowed. Did I miss it? Which both customers and us can be banned for. I don’t really understand why they want to be banning customers and models with nothing listed for the customers that tells them it isn’t allowed? Like from a business position. Makes no sense

Esixxx
11-22-2021, 12:57 PM
user4583 has logged on

So why are these "users" not showing up in our room?

I am wondering if they are re-introducing the unregistered users to visit our rooms like before they began SMConnect

gbjenna
11-22-2021, 12:59 PM
last night a guy in free chat's text came up as "can you say for me in exclusive?" (clearly missing a word)

i told him looks like you've been censored, whatever word you just asked me to say didn't go through the chat, so the answer is no... i insisted he not try to spell it out with numbers or any other way. whatever he asked for was against the rules. but it all seems so arbitrary. only some words are censored, yet if they have this capability already why not just do it for all rule breaking words. so frustrating.

i also chatted with several regs in free chat last night about how strict things are becoming and how i really don't want to have to insta-ban any of them for overstepping a rule, since it seems like we as models can get in trouble for telling them "stop, that is against the rules" rather than blocking and reporting. i don't want to have to immediately block a reg i've known for years just because he slipped up on something he *didn't know* was a rule breaker. so they started asking about what is against the rules, but it makes me nervous to talk about for obvious reasons. it's a catch 22! how can they learn if we can't tell them...

i asked the guys if they had any kind of FAQ like the models now do, they all said they've never seen one. i also half joked that no customer reads the terms of service when they sign up to a porn site so i would assume the rules might be in there, but one of the guys actually said he skimmed through it and it doesn't go over anything prohibited. i am not sure if that is true, but either way these guys need a rules list that we can easily point them to. it's getting stressful hearing about other models getting banned for customer behavior that is totally out of our control.

I sent an email a couple of months back to Cristina asking what was sufficient action to take if a customer starts to do something that's against the rules either in the chat or via cam2cam. Is it acceptable to ask them to stop or refuse what they're requesting/discussing and then carry on with the show, or would we be expected to immediately block and report.

Her reply was, "I would advise you to end the show entirely and report any member who does not follow the same code of conduct.


If you continue, the support team might consider that you were colluding with the member."

anonamiss
11-22-2021, 01:05 PM
Yes, there is one...although I don't think they are made to read it when creating an account. It's just a link at the bottom of the site for Streamate to cover their asses. https://streamate.com/docs/terms-and-conditions

They should have to click "accept" when creating an account and anytime it's changed, just as we have to. It's total bullshit.

yeah i know about this, but no one is going to read that if i send them there. prohibited conduct is more than halfway down that page and is not easy to read because it's a bunch of repetitive legal jargon.

this is the one bit that talks about actual acts (section I #9)

"Engage in any action of any type that may generally be considered unlawfully obscene, including but not limited to bestiality, urination/defecation, fisting, incest, extreme sadomasochism or bondage presented in a sexual context, or which refers to or depicts any person under 18 years of age."

interestingly it doesn't mention non-consensual/rape play which is one of the new "no tolerance" rules on our new model FAQ. (note: i recently saw a twitter thread of a model who got banned outright without warning for not reporting a member who apparently got into some non-consent territory during a roleplay. he was a regular of hers so she let it slide, but the consequence was a straight up ban.)

SM needs to make a customer FAQ with bullet points listing what is not allowed for the customers in simple language. i'm going to write in with this suggestion and i'd encourage you all to do so as well if you haven't already.

liquidsilk
11-22-2021, 01:19 PM
So what about sleep shows that are now allowed? Picture this: 8 hour sleep show starts, thousands of viewers pop in and out, spamming the chat with logged on/logged off messages. Idk how long the chat stays for but I know that you cant scroll back after a certain number of lines or time passed. It disappears. Then someone comes in and types out a long banned role play, and you never see it because you were asleep so you cant report it. Do you get banned?

anonamiss
11-22-2021, 01:26 PM
random question because i don't want to be caught off guard in the moment

when you report someone, do you block them first? i haven't used the report feature in a while, and the last time i did, i did it from the inbox because a reg was getting too pushy for my personal info.

say you're in an exclusive and need to end the show and report the person. what order do you do it in? block then report? or does reporting automatically kick them out and block them?

JustMilfnAround
11-22-2021, 01:36 PM
random question because i don't want to be caught off guard in the moment

when you report someone, do you block them first? i haven't used the report feature in a while, and the last time i did, i did it from the inbox because a reg was getting too pushy for my personal info.

say you're in an exclusive and need to end the show and report the person. what order do you do it in? block then report? or does reporting automatically kick them out and block them?

I block them immediately, screenshot and copy/paste what they said into their notes and then I report with a paste of their text during the chat. I also offer up the screenshot if they would like it. They haven't asked me for a screenshot yet but i keep them all anyway just in case.....

liquidsilk
11-22-2021, 02:06 PM
The double tip problem persists. Unfortunately it has now spread to gold shows. Hit a $300 goal when only $150 was 'real'. Idk what was showing as the total on the customer end but on mine it hit the goal. I'm not even mad anymore just disappointed.

I run staggered goals. 100 striptease, 150 finger play, 200 toy and 300 DP.


We can't even CHECK if these tips are real because they don't clear until after the show is over.

I'm not a grass but if my consent to do certain acts on cam is reliant on the remuneration showed to me and agreed beforehand, which then transpires to not exist then wow I didnt consent to do that did I?


Mastercard would be PISSED.