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gbjenna
12-21-2021, 02:31 PM
I wonder if they even know that they've been removed from Google? Liz, if ya listening HELP!!!

According to Angela in the SM Discord it's been passed onto Liz and they're aware and investigating.

SapphireXO
12-21-2021, 02:34 PM
I am not a top model. Year before last I did shit for xmas contest and didn't place. I didn't make myself available. Last year I made myself available and landed #201 in the contest and I'm primarily foot fetish.

IF if they funnel traffic: why funnel it to my room? I'm nobody on SM really. I just happened to be there offering what a lot of men wanted and they did shows.

Make yourself available and they come. There's no conspiracy. I have really shitty days and weeks, and sometimes I do a bang up job. It's all about being available for the opportunities.

If you're not online...you're not available. I was available 36+ hrs last contest week and did well.

GTFO!!!

So true. I was beating myself up knowing another model friend of mine whooped my ass in earnings overall! Well she works ~180 hours/month. I averaged ~105 hours/month this year. GTFO!!! How can they spend money on you if they can't find you!?

Marina Starr
12-21-2021, 02:41 PM
There is no Streamate conspiracy! I believe it was started a long ago on here by a very "special" hoe that was finally banned.
I was hoping that would completely died off when she got booted off 'Camming Connection Island' but I guess not because it kept coming up.

Conspiracies are misinformation that aren't created to be believed but to repeat without proof.

Luci Fer
12-21-2021, 02:52 PM
^ yeah, it's just another way to blame whatever magical reason when shift is sucky.
the only way to go through this shit is to stay online.

Marina Starr
12-21-2021, 03:01 PM
If staying the fuck on doesn't work then it may be God's way of telling you to step your pussy up!


^ yeah, it's just another way to blame whatever magical reason when shift is sucky.
the only way to go through this shit is to stay online.

ravenskyy
12-21-2021, 03:09 PM
I wish the site performed better. SM takes the most money but it's the glitchiest site that I've ever been on. How do you justify taking such a high percentage??? If your site can't handle all those models being online, stop doing so many contests! And fix your shit! I wanna show titties and make bank dammit! lol

Strawberryblonde
12-21-2021, 03:25 PM
Both parts of the magnet? I lost 1/2 within days, it stays put without it fairly decent. You could always buy a small magnet to attach if the return/replacement is a pain.

Did you tell Lovense about this, sounds like a common fault.

Point is its a £100 (reduced to £80) product which shouldn't have bits falling off.

Sent some lube back last month, consistency was way out compared to previous batches too watery. I wanted to reorder with confidence. Another type same brand was too thick, wouldn't pump I didn't send it back but I did ask the company about it. They admitted there had been manufacturing problems, will be fine in future.

liquidsilk
12-21-2021, 03:35 PM
There is a 1 year warranty on lovense. Open a support ticket, they will ask you to send a video and then should offer a solution.

kamiliam
12-21-2021, 04:10 PM
Did you tell Lovense about this, sounds like a common fault.

Point is its a £100 (reduced to £80) product which shouldn't have bits falling off.

Sent some lube back last month, consistency was way out compared to previous batches too watery. I wanted to reorder with confidence. Another type same brand was too thick, wouldn't pump I didn't send it back but I did ask the company about it. They admitted there had been manufacturing problems, will be fine in future.


It is meant to come apart so you can attach it to your panties. Magnet on each side of fabric.

~Carmen~
12-21-2021, 04:19 PM
^Yes, and there are 2 separate magnets for the outside in case you lose one. I didn't realize that for the longest time because they were stuck together.

kamiliam
12-21-2021, 04:24 PM
^Yes, and there are 2 separate magnets for the outside in case you lose one. I didn't realize that for the longest time because they were stuck together.

I now feel the need search for BOTH under my bed.

Marina Starr
12-21-2021, 04:49 PM
You will never have to worry about losing them again because you're fully vaccinated and boosted. Your body will automatically magnetize toys and vibes.
That's incredible! #magnetizedhoe


^Yes, and there are 2 separate magnets for the outside in case you lose one. I didn't realize that for the longest time because they were stuck together.

~Carmen~
12-21-2021, 05:07 PM
I now feel the need search for BOTH under my bed.

Sometimes I find them stuck to my tripod. Look on anything metal.

~Carmen~
12-21-2021, 05:08 PM
You will never have to worry about losing them again because you're fully vaccinated and boosted. Your body will automatically magnetize toys and vibes.
That's incredible! #magnetizedhoe

Oh my gosh, you are brilliant!! All I need to do is crawl around the floor and my lost magnet will stick to me and vibrate. This makes my life so much simpler.

VVV
12-21-2021, 06:08 PM
Hi!!! So i got email for payment I got Barclays bank UK WHICH one I should go for? No idea what is the best. How is paxum? Tks! Some brit girls here? Not anymore bank transfer!! UK. Tbh I don't know if Europe is same!! X

freyasnecklace
12-21-2021, 06:22 PM
When does the new model 4 star and rate limit lift? A month? I am stuck at 6.99 max. Gross. Why the shit doesn’t it say anything about this in the FAQ? Grrr.

bigbum
12-21-2021, 08:27 PM
According to Angela in the SM Discord it's been passed onto Liz and they're aware and investigating.
i think that is why they dont allow pussy showing in public chat and are strict about it because its what allows them to be "white labels" and thus can run ads and rank on google
i dont remember the exact rules but with marketing google ads and such there are specific limitations and rules that sites have to follow in order to rank or show on google
just my opinion

bigbum
12-21-2021, 08:33 PM
I'm officially on Hoe-cation, taking some time off because Hoes need rest. Legs are temporary closed.
Fuckboys that wandered would have to wait 'til I come back for the New Year as a Better Hoe!

See you next year, Streamate!

good for you girlie! you enjoy your time! happy HOelidays to you

bigbum
12-21-2021, 08:34 PM
today was a bit slow. meh must be because its right before christmas.. meh. meh. meh. lol
cant wait until everyone gets their tax money back so they can spend on us lol

JoiDivision
12-21-2021, 08:36 PM
today was a bit slow. meh must be because its right before christmas.. meh. meh. meh. lol
cant wait until everyone gets their tax money back so they can spend on us lol

Today was dead af for me up until about 2 hours ago, no clue why! Of course people start taking me into shows when I'm exhausted and feel like I'm about to pass out, lol.

bigbum
12-21-2021, 09:13 PM
Today was dead af for me up until about 2 hours ago, no clue why! Of course people start taking me into shows when I'm exhausted and feel like I'm about to pass out, lol.
oh that happens to me all the time lol
or the best customers come tip for my wet pussy and its dried out and im tired af by then

Strawberryblonde
12-21-2021, 09:59 PM
Hi!!! So i got email for payment I got Barclays bank UK WHICH one I should go for? No idea what is the best. How is paxum? Tks! Some brit girls here? Not anymore bank transfer!! UK. Tbh I don't know if Europe is same!! X

I got the same too, not a clue what to choose talk about short notice!

fetishqueen
12-22-2021, 01:40 AM
I got the same too, not a clue what to choose talk about short notice!

Me too, really not happy about this at all. And to make it worse, the payment methods page has changed and only shows what I use now, when I click to edit it tells me it overrides what I have input already. It doesn't show the other methods available anymore and I'd really like to see them before I start messing with my details. This is fucking stupid.

Oh and what's the 'Stay tuned for additional updates after the New Year'? That's too fucking late!

Strawberryblonde
12-22-2021, 01:45 AM
Me too, really not happy about this at all. And to make it worse, the payment methods page has changed and only shows what I use now, when I click to edit it tells me it overrides what I have input already. It doesn't show the other methods available anymore and I'd really like to see them before I start messing with my details. This is fucking stupid.

Oh and what's the 'Stay tuned for additional updates after the New Year'? That's too fucking late!

I thought that was just me (like with the Ferri).

liquidsilk
12-22-2021, 04:05 AM
Wire transfers no longer supported for Europe :(

roseforarose
12-22-2021, 05:12 AM
Hi!!! So i got email for payment I got Barclays bank UK WHICH one I should go for? No idea what is the best. How is paxum? Tks! Some brit girls here? Not anymore bank transfer!! UK. Tbh I don't know if Europe is same!! X

I went with masspay as I know some people here have said good things about it, no idea how it works though they just asked me to put my email and and said masspay would contact me?

I've not used paxum myself but one of my friends uses it for her sites as it's one of the few Aus options, she says it's terrible and advises against using it if you have another choice- so that's why I picked masspay. I wish they'd given up more than 8 days notice! like....what the hell?

roseforarose
12-22-2021, 05:20 AM
When does the new model 4 star and rate limit lift? A month? I am stuck at 6.99 max. Gross. Why the shit doesn’t it say anything about this in the FAQ? Grrr.

It's not a limit but just the default amount of stars everyone begins with, once you start getting reviews it will automatically increase. I think it only took me a couple of 5-star reviews to have it increase. For the price-per-min you could contact support about it, I contacted them after 3ish weeks and they increased it for me, idk how long it takes automatically though

roseforarose
12-22-2021, 05:26 AM
I honestly just wish they'd send out a newsletter addressing all of the issues and upcoming updates! Why isn't SM showing on google in lots of places and will it be fixed, why is the wire transfer gone and can we get more notice for future changes, when is the room topic coming back, why do only some of us get features (activity feed), why doesn't the video upload work for half of us?

I do really like the site and also think support are quite good, but there's no communication with us and considering their cut is considerably higher than the industry standard I really wish they would be active in sending us updates. Rather than us having to email and getting vague 'it will be fixed' answers. The room topic has been gone for months and now payment options are vanishing with very little notice? Will we ever get wire transfers back for non-US countries or are they just gone. Is it a issue with the payment processor or?!

ugh. Rant over I just want info!

liquidsilk
12-22-2021, 05:31 AM
I used masspay as an experiment and it was $28 wire fee with a less than favourable exchange rate. I just cashed out in BTC. $3.91 fee.

liquidsilk
12-22-2021, 05:44 AM
trying skrill next. SM sends them Euros for some unknown reason. Does SM do the conversion and send them Euros or does SM send USD and then Skrill does the conversion? Will be interesting to see the rate, can't find it anywhere.

Skrill says: https://www.skrill.com/en/siteinformation/fees/

Assuming SM sends EUR and not USD, Is the deposit from SM free to receive?
Then it says I can send myself Euros for 5.50, no currency exchange.

Ideal Scenario: Sm converts at market rate, sends EUR to skrill using direct bank transfer, skrill lets me withdraw to my EUR bank account for 5.50. Nobody cries.

Worst case: SM sends USD, via paysafe, and charges 5%, Skrill decides on an awful exchange rate, losing a few more % and then they find some small reason why their 5.50 transfer is not working, and charges me 4% to load onto a card.

Des
12-22-2021, 05:55 AM
When does the new model 4 star and rate limit lift? A month? I am stuck at 6.99 max. Gross. Why the shit doesn’t it say anything about this in the FAQ? Grrr.
About the 4 star , you can read on the Rating Review tab:
"This table shows the ratings given by your customers. The default rating is 4 stars for all models. Once you have a minimum of five ratings, an average rating will display to users. Your star rating is an average of all your ratings in the last 90 days, and ratings older than 90 days drop off. If you have less than five ratings, you will default to 4 stars. If a single customer rates you more than once, only their most recent rating is counted."
About the rate, i got am e-mail from them, it didn't take long for me, maybe they changed in time but i think you can ask support as someone already sugested.

fetishqueen
12-22-2021, 05:58 AM
So we pretty much are left with no decent options at all then. Fucking brilliant. I'm sick of paying to get my money AFTER the enormous cut SM takes already. At least I've heard of Worldpay and have some familiarity. I'm really not happy being made to use a payment method I've never heard of.

liquidsilk
12-22-2021, 06:29 AM
found this on skrill: The transaction will include conversion, which will be charged with a 3.99% fee - SO if SM sends USD and Skrill converts, there goes 4%. Any Europeans using Skrill to let us know which it is?

Strawberryblonde
12-22-2021, 06:43 AM
Ok I checked the Ferri again.

There are two magnets one on the toy, the other in a spare slot in the packaging.

Both are in black plastic casing.

The casing on the magnet which was on the toy itself when it arrived has come apart.

Yes it will still attach but that is beside the point, the magnet is (as far as I can see) supposed to be encased in a black plastic case. At the moment one half of the case falls off leaving the raw silver metal magnet exposed on outside of knickers (pantys to those in the US).

I may still be wrong, but it's not as intended.

Lovense customer service have not replied yet, I submitted a contact form 24 hours ago.

roseforarose
12-22-2021, 06:58 AM
I used masspay as an experiment and it was $28 wire fee with a less than favourable exchange rate. I just cashed out in BTC. $8 fee.

Was the exchange rate a massive difference or just a slight one? The fee for worldpay was $25 anyway so an extra $3 isn't much of a bother to me. Also my worldpay was sent in EUR, I believe the conversion was always automatically done by Worldpay but I'm not too sure.

VVV
12-22-2021, 07:01 AM
Wire transfers no longer supported for Europe :(

UK also apparently

Strawberryblonde
12-22-2021, 07:03 AM
Was the exchange rate a massive difference or just a slight one? The fee for worldpay was $25 anyway so an extra $3 isn't much of a bother to me. Also my worldpay was sent in EUR, I believe the conversion was always automatically done by Worldpay but I'm not too sure.

We lost twice with WP.

VVV
12-22-2021, 07:07 AM
Was the exchange rate a massive difference or just a slight one? The fee for worldpay was $25 anyway so an extra $3 isn't much of a bother to me. Also my worldpay was sent in EUR, I believe the conversion was always automatically done by Worldpay but I'm not too sure.

I Googled it seems a PayPal option? Omg I try to ask to my representative!!! X

VVV
12-22-2021, 07:25 AM
trying skrill next. SM sends them Euros for some unknown reason. Does SM do the conversion and send them Euros or does SM send USD and then Skrill does the conversion? Will be interesting to see the rate, can't find it anywhere.

Skrill says: https://www.skrill.com/en/siteinformation/fees/

Assuming SM sends EUR and not USD, Is the deposit from SM free to receive?
Then it says I can send myself Euros for 5.50, no currency exchange.

Ideal Scenario: Sm converts at market rate, sends EUR to skrill using direct bank transfer, skrill lets me withdraw to my EUR bank account for 5.50. Nobody cries.

Worst case: SM sends USD, via paysafe, and charges 5%, Skrill decides on an awful exchange rate, losing a few more % and then they find some small reason why their 5.50 transfer is not working, and charges me 4% to load onto a card.

Seems one of the most used in gambling

Vlodina
12-22-2021, 07:26 AM
I am in Scotland and have been using Paxum for years and on Streamate for quite a while. Works well for me, reliable, no issues.

liquidsilk
12-22-2021, 07:27 AM
I thought this would need to be referred to so I saved the EXACT details lol. Who knew it would be this soon. The rates I am comparing to were available on XE.com for the exact same minute as the quotes given. IIRC, Masspay only quotes to 2 decimal places so for example the 0.7317 that I received was actually marginally better than the 0.73 that was quoted.

Dec 10th

actual rate: 0.8861 USD to EUR, Masspay gave me 0.8365
actual rate: 0.753535 USD to GBP, Masspay gave me 0.7317

work it out on a payment of $1000 for a better idea:

With a direct exchange of USD to EUR, you would get EUR 886.10, but EUR 833.99 with Masspay ( I have deducted the $3 fee), A difference of EUR 52.11 on each $1000, 5.88%

With a direct exchange of USD to GBP, you would get GBP 753.54, but GBP 729.50 with Masspay ( I have deducted the $3 fee), A difference of GBP 24.04 on each $1000, 3.19%

Ambercat
12-22-2021, 07:27 AM
Was the exchange rate a massive difference or just a slight one? The fee for worldpay was $25 anyway so an extra $3 isn't much of a bother to me. Also my worldpay was sent in EUR, I believe the conversion was always automatically done by Worldpay but I'm not too sure.

I cash out with "bank deposit" instead of wire transfer and the fee is $3 to my euro revolut. Last time I used the same withdrawal type to my Barclays the fee was going to be $4.10 but for some reason it kept bouncing back. The exchange rate i have noticed is a percent or two worse than market rate but it still works out cheaper for me than worldpay.

liquidsilk
12-22-2021, 07:36 AM
I used to get wire transfers straight to my REVO EUR account. If Skrill works out as legit - free to receive, 5 euro something to send then that will be what I use in future. I tried to use the Masspay USD transfer to my USD revo as I have the local ACH account on there they offered a long time ago, and it is only 28$ with no currency conversion but Masspay wants a SSN for USD payouts :(

liquidsilk
12-22-2021, 07:41 AM
I am in Scotland and have been using Paxum for years and on Streamate for quite a while. Works well for me, reliable, no issues.

I used paxum a couple of times, I like to try all payouts at least once, it was a long time ago though, from what I can remember my main issue was that SM sent USD, I couldn't withdraw to my USD account, nor could I convert to GBP? I had to convert to EUR then withdraw. I'm not sure if it is different now, can you go from USD straight to GBP and what are the fees at the mo? x

roseforarose
12-22-2021, 07:42 AM
I cash out with "bank deposit" instead of wire transfer and the fee is $3 to my euro revolut. Last time I used the same withdrawal type to my Barclays the fee was going to be $4.10 but for some reason it kept bouncing back. The exchange rate i have noticed is a percent or two worse than market rate but it still works out cheaper for me than worldpay.

Do you mean you're using bank deposit directly from SM, or from WorldPay? I don't see any options available for that on my end now worldpay is gone- the only things available are e-pay services (Masspay, Skrill, Cosmo, and Paxum)

liquidsilk
12-22-2021, 07:44 AM
Sorry to reply on behalf but I think Ambercat is referring to the bank deposit option within masspay

liquidsilk
12-22-2021, 07:54 AM
same topic obviously, ha, I asked my friend who has Cosmopay. She said Cosmopay offers $3 account maintenance, $3 to receive and $5 to send with a variable exchange rate a couple percent above market. So running 1 payment a week is $452 a year in fees, before the % is taken, still cheaper than the $1300 that a weekly wire would cost from SM/worldpay but it all hangs on that % really. I think there used to be a rep on industry insight somewhere...

I'd like to try it, and skrill too. It is lucky I had a go on masspay out of curiosity last week. I think we only have time to try one? The message didn't give much notice, todays change missed the cut off for account alterations so the first try will be next Friday's pay, which is 31st :(

Ambercat
12-22-2021, 08:31 AM
Sorry to reply on behalf but I think Ambercat is referring to the bank deposit option within masspay

Sorry yes i was!

Erika_Xstacy
12-22-2021, 09:21 AM
Why did sm stop sending paper checks to you guys? Anyone know?

liquidsilk
12-22-2021, 09:28 AM
Oh one more thing to mention as it might be important to some people: When I used masspay the payment was labelled "streamates payment" I know some prefer a less obvious label on their paper trail