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Halestorm
01-05-2022, 12:48 PM
Nope, he said he was living on some island, I don't remember now, been a few years since that happened. He was not in my country nor same nationality. He came to see me weekly for a couple months, 30 sometimes 60 mins exclusives. Then one night he did an exclusive with his usual account and when he reached limit came back with two other accounts. That's where I started suspecting and reported him. I had no reasons to suspect earlier, he was using the same account every time, wanting ass/ foot worship shows, I just thought he's paying for his fetish like many others do. And then I had to beg to get my account back lol.



May I ask how were you begging for SM Staff to give your account back? I mean.. they are really tough. They never over-ride anything. I've had issues where I had to email Liz etc and it's always "no", "no we can't", "no we don't", "no not now"... It is so hard to negotiate or get anything from them. You must have great communication skills or maybe they realized you were innocent in the situation and gave your account back?

VVV
01-05-2022, 02:41 PM
Seems back to reality omg post holidays slowly slowly!! So I admit that some down time is needed!! However it's crazy how was bad today on SM! My shift!! Still 4hrs to go but yeah just wondering if you felt that decrease in traffic/spender!! Lol timewaster freeloaders are a constant. Hopefully got others money generators ahah

Only me today with no spenders traffic?:p

emkato
01-05-2022, 02:56 PM
Seems back to reality omg post holidays slowly slowly!! So I admit that some down time is needed!! However it's crazy how was bad today on SM! My shift!! Still 4hrs to go but yeah just wondering if you felt that decrease in traffic/spender!! Lol timewaster freeloaders are a constant. Hopefully got others money generators ahah

Only me today with no spenders traffic?:p

you are not alone! today has been very quiet, very few shows and tips. there haven't been a lot of models online either.

freyasnecklace
01-05-2022, 03:01 PM
you are not alone! today has been very quiet, very few shows and tips. there haven't been a lot of models online either.

Same-zies. Taking more breaks today before I lose it with the ban hammer

Dont_Care
01-05-2022, 03:01 PM
Happy New Years, everyone!

I had a guy earlier who told me he's in a meeting and very horny, then he took me private and turned on his camera directly to the people on his screen. I am thinking if the rule is for members too, if we are allowed to see what they see...Ive told him im not allowed to see what he sees and not to show me anymore and he left. I am wondering if to report him or not...any idea?

laurielegs
01-05-2022, 03:13 PM
Happy New Years, everyone!

I had a guy earlier who told me he's in a meeting and very horny, then he took me private and turned on his camera directly to the people on his screen. I am thinking if the rule is for members too, if we are allowed to see what they see...Ive told him im not allowed to see what he sees and not to show me anymore and he left. I am wondering if to report him or not...any idea?

I have had this happen too. We need a definitive answer. I'm getting really tired of being nervous about what a customer might do.

I can't control these clowns and I'm annoyed at having to police their actions. We don't deserve to be afraid all the time from simply doing our job.

seicento
01-05-2022, 03:45 PM
May I ask how were you begging for SM Staff to give your account back? I mean.. they are really tough. They never over-ride anything. I've had issues where I had to email Liz etc and it's always "no", "no we can't", "no we don't", "no not now"... It is so hard to negotiate or get anything from them. You must have great communication skills or maybe they realized you were innocent in the situation and gave your account back?
No, you got it wrong. They didn't give me my account back as a favor. I was innocent. They have recordings of everything we do on the site so I'm convinced they investigated and they could see I wasn't involved, my only role there was to perform a show for a fraudster. Of course I sent a lot of emails begging for them to check that what i was saying was the truth. I had to insist because I wasn't guilty and it was not fair to be banned for something that i didn't know of.

emkato
01-05-2022, 04:45 PM
No, you got it wrong. They didn't give me my account back as a favor. I was innocent. They have recordings of everything we do on the site so I'm convinced they investigated and they could see I wasn't involved, my only role there was to perform a show for a fraudster. Of course I sent a lot of emails begging for them to check that what i was saying was the truth. I had to insist because I wasn't guilty and it was not fair to be banned for something that i didn't know of.

THIS! If we get accused of doing something we 100% deserve to be heard out and to tell our side of the story. Like with my situation I posted a few days ago, I was innocent too. my old account connected to the studio i used to work for was flagged wrongly for selling Skype shows, and I know that Liz could go back and see everything on that account and there was no mention of Skype shows ever. SM just believed the studio without checking until Liz looked into it. I swear Liz and I emailed back-and-forth consistently for like 3 or 4 hours, hard to say but it wasn't a quick 5 minute solution. Im so happy you were able to get your account back btw! So f'd up for us to be punished for other peoples wrong doings.

Vlodina
01-05-2022, 04:46 PM
Logged off briefly and now can't get back on. Stream will start soon.... round and round it goes... until it gives up. Speedtest fine, other sites fine, restarted PC. Ah well, it's nearly bedtime. It better be working tomorrow night.

lula_xoxox
01-05-2022, 04:51 PM
Logged off briefly and now can't get back on. Stream will start soon.... round and round it goes... until it gives up. Speedtest fine, other sites fine, restarted PC. Ah well, it's nearly bedtime. It better be working tomorrow night.

same :-( i guess it's the universe telling me to get on with other things i need to be getting on with, but i wish i hadn't faffed around putting my face on. like you say, it better be working tomorrow! and preferably busy too! :-\

Vlodina
01-05-2022, 05:01 PM
same :-( i guess it's the universe telling me to get on with other things i need to be getting on with, but i wish i hadn't faffed around putting my face on. like you say, it better be working tomorrow! and preferably busy too! :-\

Wasn't anything to write home about while I was on. Annoying all the same because you never know.

I never faff about putting my face on now. Got my brows microbladed a few months back and get lash extensions. Job done! I've given up on the rest of it apart from lipstick half the time. Saves me a load of effort!

Genoveve
01-05-2022, 05:02 PM
^^^Just let me on.

bobsandvangene
01-05-2022, 05:05 PM
^^^Just let me on.

Still not letting me reconnect... got two hours of my shift left too... grrrr

gbjenna
01-05-2022, 05:37 PM
Omg I thought it was just me!! Ran fine all night was really busy and I refresh and now can't get back online. What a pain in the arse!

bobsandvangene
01-05-2022, 05:41 PM
Omg I thought it was just me!! Ran fine all night was really busy and I refresh and now can't get back online. What a pain in the arse!

Same. I’ve had such a shit day mentally but cam was insanely busy and now I can’t work ):

gbjenna
01-05-2022, 05:45 PM
Same. I’ve had such a shit day mentally but cam was insanely busy and now I can’t work ):

Yeah same it was the busiest I'd been in longer than I can remember! I've been trying for 20mins now!! My other site is staying logged in just fine and my upload speed is fine.

gbjenna
01-05-2022, 05:47 PM
Has anyone else managed to reconnect?

Dont_Care
01-05-2022, 05:47 PM
Same. I’ve had such a shit day mentally but cam was insanely busy and now I can’t work ):


I was able to login after so many tries, after deleting cookies and cashes and thought everything is back to normal. But at some point, a member wanted to take me exclusive and he told me that my image stopped. I went on site to check and yes, i was totally frozen. Since then im trying to go back on site and it doesn't let me...:mad::banghead:

gbjenna
01-05-2022, 05:57 PM
I messaged Chris on the discord and he said he'll have someone look into it right now

freyasnecklace
01-05-2022, 06:04 PM
Yeah same it was the busiest I'd been in longer than I can remember! I've been trying for 20mins now!! My other site is staying logged in just fine and my upload speed is fine.

Damn! I missed the busy hour.

emkato
01-05-2022, 06:09 PM
Damn! I missed the busy hour.

Seems i did as well. All day on cam and it was so dead.

bigbum
01-05-2022, 10:36 PM
100% they are giving themselves a bad reputation to ban so many models for things they have no control over. They don't have a site without us.

There is a user I stopped getting shows with because of the new rules. He MUST hear me say the word "faggot" to get off. But I don't say it now as I'm sure it falls under hate speech.

As far as giving the users a second chance, if it is a very busy day it is hard to even read all of the things they are typing in chat. Worst now than ever with the "logged in/out" messages. It is not right for SM so expect us to be able to see EVERY message especially when our backs are turned away from the screen.

Why are they so against adding a word blocker? It solves these problems easily
that is exactly my point earlier! these users are getting smarter and they like to pop into private and write stuff when your back is turned to get themselves off.
you literally need to have eyes in the back of your head at this point.

bigbum
01-05-2022, 10:45 PM
100% they are giving themselves a bad reputation to ban so many models for things they have no control over. They don't have a site without us.

There is a user I stopped getting shows with because of the new rules. He MUST hear me say the word "faggot" to get off. But I don't say it now as I'm sure it falls under hate speech.

As far as giving the users a second chance, if it is a very busy day it is hard to even read all of the things they are typing in chat. Worst now than ever with the "logged in/out" messages. It is not right for SM so expect us to be able to see EVERY message especially when our backs are turned away from the screen.

Why are they so against adding a word blocker? It solves these problems easily

i didnt know faggot was against the rules..

Angela888
01-06-2022, 03:44 AM
Hey uk girls! What payment do you guys use as they've gotten rid of worldpay for us? Only just come back on

Hi hun
If you scroll back through this thread you’ll see responses to this. I had a nightmare with MassPay and their customer service is non bloody existent, I have now finally been paid! I’m hearing paxum very good. Hope this helps

KatM
01-06-2022, 05:13 AM
Did SM post the payments for this week? Normally they post them wednesday to thursday my time but i see nothing there. They also make the payments and update the page later on, always giving me emotions if they issued my payment or not. Ty

MissAdriana
01-06-2022, 08:12 AM
It is posted for me now KatM

freyasnecklace
01-06-2022, 08:30 AM
i didnt know faggot was against the rules..

There is a “hate speech “ section in the code of conduct (but not the one linked under the stream button because SM is disorganized, I guess). I emailed them to clarify because it reads like do not harass or insult models or customers in the general sense. Meaning, it could possibly be okay in exclusive when mutually agreed upon. But who knows. This could be unspecified on purpose so they can make money off all these shows and ban models when the processors throw a fit.

looklovely
01-06-2022, 11:48 AM
Hi hun
If you scroll back through this thread you’ll see responses to this. I had a nightmare with MassPay and their customer service is non bloody existent, I have now finally been paid! I’m hearing paxum very good. Hope this helps

Same, I think it's just one guy for their customer service, I switched back to ACH, even though it's $5 per transfer.

When I called the # the employee texted back "Email me."

Strawberryblonde
01-06-2022, 01:14 PM
Anyone else have where your blocked members when you click on names to see notes says “page not found or may have been moved” directing you back to homepage? Support says it’s a glitch, but just like room topic no info on when or if it will ever be fixed.

How and why does site have so many glitches and bugs for so long and they never seem to get fixed. Room topic still not back after like 4 months. There a tech company first and foremost.


I had it a week or two ago, luckily all fixed.

freyasnecklace
01-06-2022, 03:08 PM
After taking 5 days off I REALLY wanted to put in 4 hours today, but after 2 hours (fairly decent) we are back to the stupid questions, silent pervs again that I have zero patience for. I can’t do stupid! And would rather persevere my energy and mental health.

It’s not just you. I also had 2 great hours followed by dumb fucks.

ravenskyy
01-06-2022, 04:18 PM
Seems to happen when I just need to make like $20 more and can’t.

Yep, same here. Always when I'm trying to make a few more dollars. It's like they can smell our desperation through the camera lol

Genoveve
01-06-2022, 04:30 PM
Anyone else have where your blocked members when you click on names to see notes says “page not found or may have been moved” directing you back to homepage? Support says it’s a glitch, but just like room topic no info on when or if it will ever be fixed.

Yes been like this for me for like a week. Would really love the room topic back one day as well.

Angela888
01-06-2022, 04:59 PM
Same, I think it's just one guy for their customer service, I switched back to ACH, even though it's $5 per transfer.

When I called the # the employee texted back "Email me."

Thank you �� sorry to hear of your troubles however it is assuring to know it’s not just me!! I think I’ll eventually change but after a dramatic time trying to get paid , I am
All tired out to do with it all

bigbum
01-06-2022, 08:32 PM
There is a “hate speech “ section in the code of conduct (but not the one linked under the stream button because SM is disorganized, I guess). I emailed them to clarify because it reads like do not harass or insult models or customers in the general sense. Meaning, it could possibly be okay in exclusive when mutually agreed upon. But who knows. This could be unspecified on purpose so they can make money off all these shows and ban models when the processors throw a fit.

sph sounds a lot like hate speech as well , insulting degrading hateful. gosh any sort of dom stuff sounds like a gray area .

bigbum
01-06-2022, 09:43 PM
a semi regular client had the NERVE to wait until i got my tits out *From another tipper might i add... and then write "mmm baby i was waiting for you to get your tits out so i could take you private"
clicks private and then stays xxxx amount of time as not to pay. then goes back into my room and sits like nothing happened . Like wtf how is that ever ok?
i had a good room going . what a muthaaafuckkkaaa.

DeliveryLadyx
01-06-2022, 11:21 PM
For UK ladies= is any other better method of cashing from Streamate? I am very dissapointed and pissed off because Masspay is quoting me 1$=£0.71 plus their 4.10$ fee and is really such poor exchange rate, google quote me1$=£0.74. I understand is a business and need to have a profit margin, but the excange rate is just outrageous! I sent them an email and complain about that and that I will be moving elsewhere. I am losing £31 or more every week and feel like am losing the same money like with a studio daily pay but without receiving the daily pay benefit. Why Streamate cannot offer a better option for UK and european models of receiving money please? Can any model share how much is Paxum quoting for 1$ to pound to transfer to uk bank? I know there is a 5$ fee, but I don't know their exchange rate. Absolutely rip off to get money in the UK and Europe! And no, I need to get my money weekly, monthly would be same loss to cash out.

Ambercat
01-06-2022, 11:44 PM
The rate i see right now in my paxum account is $ 1 = £ 0.724 There's a random 25 cent fee for payments from AW and JFF, I don't know if that's the same for SM as well.

I think their fee isn't a set amount. I only ever do micro transfers (the pennies I get from a couple of background accounts) My last euro one for example cost me €6.58 to transfer €42.00 before that it cost €7.35 to transfer €81.57
Last time i transferred dollars directly into my revolut it was - $46.00 and cost - $7.36

I can't find an explanation of the fees anywhere, I'll keep looking.

gbjenna
01-07-2022, 12:56 AM
sph sounds a lot like hate speech as well , insulting degrading hateful. gosh any sort of dom stuff sounds like a gray area .

I’d say there was a difference between hate speech and insulting someone though surely?

Like for example, using racist or homophobic slurs/language towards someone or abusing them based on such things would be what’s classed as hate speech or a hate crime. Just a couple of many examples!

Telling someone they’ve got a small dick or they’re a loser in various insulting ways is pretty rude but surely it doesn’t go as far as hate speech? Like you’re not committing a crime telling someone they’ve got a small dick. Even if it would be considered rude to most

freyasnecklace
01-07-2022, 06:50 AM
I’d say there was a difference between hate speech and insulting someone though surely?

Like for example, using racist or homophobic slurs/language towards someone or abusing them based on such things would be what’s classed as hate speech or a hate crime. Just a couple of many examples!

Telling someone they’ve got a small dick or they’re a loser in various insulting ways is pretty rude but surely it doesn’t go as far as hate speech? Like you’re not committing a crime telling someone they’ve got a small dick. Even if it would be considered rude to most
Absolutely, but “hate speech” is under the umbrella of harassment. This is what it says:
Streamate does not condone harassment. If you are found to be harassing, bothering, teasing, distracting and/or mocking others (either as a model or a member), your account may be suspended or terminated. Additionally, you may not engage in any unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically objectionable content. Streamate supports all models and wants everyone to succeed. We expect all models to behave maturely and support each other.

So, sure, extreme hate speech is different from sph. It is under this rule, though. Which is basically all humiliation. To me, this reads like anything that is not agreed to mutually. Like outright telling a customer he is a POS outside of RP.

Luckygoldfish
01-07-2022, 07:06 AM
Yes been like this for me for like a week. Would really love the room topic back one day as well.

Just put what you need to put in room topic in a field “about my show” that’s what I have done and it appears same place as room topic normally appears -under the nickname

Luckygoldfish
01-07-2022, 07:07 AM
The rate i see right now in my paxum account is $ 1 = £ 0.724 There's a random 25 cent fee for payments from AW and JFF, I don't know if that's the same for SM as well.

I think their fee isn't a set amount. I only ever do micro transfers (the pennies I get from a couple of background accounts) My last euro one for example cost me €6.58 to transfer €42.00 before that it cost €7.35 to transfer €81.57
Last time i transferred dollars directly into my revolut it was - $46.00 and cost - $7.36

I can't find an explanation of the fees anywhere, I'll keep looking.
If you use paxum best thing to do is EFT transfer which means they convert it within the paxum and send your own currency. At least that’s what I have heard , correct me if I am wrong
I think if u wanna test how much you will get just put the amount in dollars ( u don’t have to have it on account ) and press withdraw to card (in £). Something like that .
it’s cheap to withdraw to bank accounts but expensive to withdraw on cards
I think I will try paxum next as skrill is not great .

Ambercat
01-07-2022, 07:32 AM
Thanks for the heads up. Now I've checked, I have infact been withdrawing into my accounts onto my debit cards. If I get future withdrawals I'll send directly to the bank as it is there as a different option.

Luckygoldfish
01-07-2022, 07:37 AM
Thanks for the heads up. Now I've checked, I have infact been withdrawing into my accounts onto my debit cards. If I get future withdrawals I'll send directly to the bank as it is there as a different option.

Yes omg it’s very expensive to withdraw on a card like 4-5%. Withdrawals to the bank is couple bucks :) see what’s more profitable there are still 2 options EFT transfer (converting within paxum) or standard wire (converting by your bank )

Upd: I just checked
Fee to withdraw to any bank account is 8,95$

Luckygoldfish
01-07-2022, 07:49 AM
I tried to put paxum as a payment method but it was said error... no idea why.
Oh well I will risk it with masspay

VVV
01-07-2022, 08:09 AM
I tried to put paxum as a payment method but it was said error... no idea why.
Oh well I will risk it with masspay

It is ok!! Mark as error however then it is ok and you will be registered!!! Xx

tashiepuck
01-07-2022, 09:51 AM
I tried to put paxum as a payment method but it was said error... no idea why.
Oh well I will risk it with masspay

Masspay is awesome , works flawlessly

roseforarose
01-07-2022, 01:27 PM
Anyone having luck on Sm right now. So far in just a guy who wants me to be his mom and two guys using the “N” word in free chat…all against site rules! Happy Friday!

It's contest week levels of slow for me tonight! I'm planning on long hours, but apparently they're going to be filled with timewasters. I'm on a break now bc I feel like I was being too nice/chatty to freeloaders out of boredom o.O

Susperia
01-07-2022, 02:01 PM
Yeah its pretty quiet for a Friday. The first part of the week was popping for me and today is just kinda slow and boring. Hoping it picks up.

tashiepuck
01-07-2022, 04:23 PM
Hopefully nobody gets offended but traffic was great today for me personally . Made my daily total needed in under 3.5 hours

bigbum
01-07-2022, 04:48 PM
Hopefully nobody gets offended but traffic was great today for me personally . Made my daily total needed in under 3.5 hours

i think its cool when we share both the good and the bad!!! congrats on your great friday on SM!