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naomi_doll
02-06-2022, 07:07 AM
SM connect keeps crashing and won't let me take my photo. Oh well, I guess I'm camming elsewhere today.

JustMilfnAround
02-06-2022, 08:13 AM
56590
56591

This was asked back in Oct.
Did they change the rules?
If so, please direct me to where it says it.
The LAST thing I want is to get suspended for this.

I emailed support because I didn't want to bother Liz with something so small - it was in a response email to me from support. I can't remember the password to the email account since I'm on my streaming laptop - but I will try to get a screenshot up tomorrow.

I wish they would be more consistent in their rules... If everyone is getting different information how do they expect us to all be compliant? *shrugs*

JustMilfnAround
02-06-2022, 08:25 AM
How in the hell do we set prices on our photos? It allows me to edit the name/caption but doesn't give me an option to price it.
Like anywhere..... Halp! Thank you!

56595

minibagel
02-06-2022, 09:28 AM
cammodels 75% is nice, but every mfc guy i've brought to SM hates sm and all its limitations (daily limits). and they go right back to mfc. :shrug: there are better options to bring them to now: fansites for 80% or indie for 100%.

i'd much prefer to have a larger payout % overall for ALL customers

whysky
02-06-2022, 10:57 AM
Seeing women defend the corporation that pimps them out any takes 65% of their money is gross. We are allowed to be angry. We are allowed to think it’s unreasonable. The company is a shit show. One person (who is actually a team of 5, there is no Liz and I find that email as unpredictable in its answers and knowledge as general support) does not make up for the shit show, the awful people working there and the failings of the site at the moment. They DO NOT need defending. They will not pay you more if you suck up. These changes are unacceptable and no one from the site answers any questions about it.

Marina Starr
02-06-2022, 12:14 PM
Checked mails today and got my tax return. Must have delivered this week because today is Sunday and USPS ain't deliver on Sunday.

A friendly Public Hoe Announcement (PHA): if you haven't gotten your tax return, it'll probably come this coming week or the following.
No need to email Liz just yet and bombard her with 'where my tax return?'. Give it a week or two then reach out to her if you still haven't gotten yours.

And check your earning to make sure it matches what's on your tax return. SM does make mistakes!

KittenGirl
02-06-2022, 12:24 PM
I would never defend such an operation of business, but I come on this thread to see if there's any updates I missed or misunderstood, or any glitches to be weary about, and all I see is this thread being bombarded with complaining about the site. If you don't like it, why are you there? So many models on here boast about other sites, then why even work on SM anymore? It's a legit question.
I'm sorry the traffic has been terrible for some of you. But it luckily hasn't been for me. I had a few slower days but the people were mostly still good to me. I would never complain about making $70/hr on a slow day.

I'm doing great on SM. I'm a bigger girl and so most other sites I feel I won't do well on. But I've been pulling $100-$134/hr lately and that's fine for me. I also haven't had any issues tech wise. I'm not discrediting girls who are struggling, but maybe it's best to just move on from the site. Working in a place that brings you down is never a good thing. That's why for two years I took a break from SM. It wore out It's charm and I got another job. But I came back because I made more money on sm.
If the low percentage cuts, traffic quality, glitches and tech support bother you all so much just leave.
Some of you clearly have great success on other sites. Probably more than I will ever have even on Streamate. So why are you staying?

minibagel
02-06-2022, 12:38 PM
ETA #2: this model wrote a very thoughtful post that sums up all my current beef with SM: https://www.reddit.com/r/CamGirlProblems/comments/shyu2d/what_is_going_on_with_streamate/

bigbum
02-06-2022, 12:52 PM
Checked mails today and got my tax return. Must have delivered this week because today is Sunday and USPS ain't deliver on Sunday.

A friendly Public Hoe Announcement (PHA): if you haven't gotten your tax return, it'll probably come this coming week or the following.
No need to email Liz just yet and bombard her with 'where my tax return?'. Give it a week or two then reach out to her if you still haven't gotten yours.

And check your earning to make sure it matches what's on your tax return. SM does make mistakes!

omgg thank you so much for this update!!!!!!

Genoveve
02-06-2022, 12:58 PM
Seeing women defend the corporation that pimps them out any takes 65% of their money is gross. We are allowed to be angry. We are allowed to think it’s unreasonable. The company is a shit show. One person (who is actually a team of 5, there is no Liz and I find that email as unpredictable in its answers and knowledge as general support) does not make up for the shit show, the awful people working there and the failings of the site at the moment. They DO NOT need defending. They will not pay you more if you suck up. These changes are unacceptable and no one from the site answers any questions about it.

If you feel that exploited I would definitely switch sites.

whysky
02-06-2022, 01:15 PM
If you feel that exploited I would definitely switch sites.

I never said I felt exploited. I was just stating reality. Some people are capable of holding reality in their brains while still doing what they need to get on in the world that exists. You dont make changes to things by running away. You do it through how you move through the world and the treatment you demand.

Genoveve
02-06-2022, 01:25 PM
hmm, cuz when everything is in working order… $$$$$$. the fastest i’ve made $500 in one single hour. $300 in ten minutes. $1k in a few hours. that’s why. :)

Okay but you complain about SM way more than you praise it, so how common are you making money like this? If it's only happening once in a blue moon Idk if it's worth staying on a site you hate?


i am often in the top row or second row. maybe third row at worst if lots of top models on. yet for some reason i have scary low traffic and i’ve been dealing with the OFFLINE glitch for months now. i've even been spot 1 row 1 and i got 0-1 ppl in per minute

Ngl I find this hard to believe. It's rare for me to be in rows 1-3 and I'm not having the issues you are. From the STFO thread you don't seem like you do very many hours either so unless you are making crazy money during the few hours you work a week I find it hard to believe your placement is always so high, and if that was the case I don't think you'd be so upset with SM 'not working' all the time.

Something I have noticed a lot is girls---who regularly post about how dead it is and how bad they're doing---will talk about how dead/bad it is for them even though they're in the "top row" or "have great placement" and it definitely makes me suspicious.

anonamiss
02-06-2022, 01:26 PM
Seeing women defend the corporation that pimps them out any takes 65% of their money is gross.

no one is being pimped for voluntarily working on a camsite. no one is forcing anyone to be there. what's gross is when fellow sex workers use a term like "pimp" so flippantly.

if anything, i think the only situation where using the word "pimp" may be somewhat appropriate in the context of camming is with shitty cam studios who demand models work specific hours and agree to performing shows they are uncomfortable with, and take their additional percentage off the top.

but certainly streamate itself is not pimping anyone that works independently. we signed up to work there on our own accord, we have full control over the way we run our rooms, can work whenever we want, and can leave the site if we so choose.

Genoveve
02-06-2022, 01:27 PM
I never said I felt exploited.

So you feeling like you're 'being pimped out by a corporation that takes 65%' is not you feeling exploited? That's interesting.

kamiliam
02-06-2022, 01:46 PM
I am over 5 years only on sm. No videos no nothing. January always sucks but I always work a lot too so the paychecks are decent. I am getting dead times like never before. I have some worries and would like some clarity and transparency from them.

Placement is just in the eye of the beholder. I noticed that models who ranked higher in one category (US/UK/AUS) were lower then me when I filtered to models that also spoke English. Within seconds. Other categories too. But like I do appear to be highly placed. So I think we all are speaking parts of the same experience. But it’s disconnected tech people working on this who don’t care about our input.

The sentiment that the percentage isn’t that bad when times are good and is horrible when it’s slow is true. This early year winter is more aggravating then I remember from the past. I feel pressured to work more then I want. If I do my hours I do well.

I am not being pimped. Never gonna happen.

Genoveve
02-06-2022, 02:08 PM
^^PMed you.

....ETA if I see that Minibagel is indeed a 1-2 row chick I will eat crow for her in this thread(but Idk when we will be online at the same time to find out so please anyone don't think I'm purposely avoiding addressing it).

emkato
02-06-2022, 02:21 PM
ETA #2: this model wrote a very thoughtful post that sums up all my current beef with SM: https://www.reddit.com/r/CamGirlProblems/comments/shyu2d/what_is_going_on_with_streamate/

I like browsing that subreddit from time to time, what a great post. she summed it up perfectly.


i'll just try to STFU

please don't stfu! (unless you want to, of course. i dont mean to tell you what to do lol) I enjoy your posts!

KittenGirl
02-06-2022, 02:46 PM
Oh I totally understand you about the percentage. And hopefully you don't think anything you said upset me or offended me. I'm so happy to hear you make such bank there! It's inspiring for sure! We all have our moments of complaining or wishing something was better. It just seems like 80% of this thread is sm bashing

KittenGirl
02-06-2022, 02:58 PM
Okay but you complain about SM way more than you praise it, so how common are you making money like this? If it's only happening once in a blue moon Idk if it's worth staying on a site you hate?



Ngl I find this hard to believe. It's rare for me to be in rows 1-3 and I'm not having the issues you are. From the STFO thread you don't seem like you do very many hours either so unless you are making crazy money during the few hours you work a week I find it hard to believe your placement is always so high, and if that was the case I don't think you'd be so upset with SM 'not working' all the time.

Something I have noticed a lot is girls---who regularly post about how dead it is and how bad they're doing---will talk about how dead/bad it is for them even though they're in the "top row" or "have great placement" and it definitely makes me suspicious.

I agree with what you're saying. I personally don't understand the $500/hr thing. My God my rate is $5.99/$7.99 and I was entertaining three guys in private for 8 minutes and had back to back exclusives with roughly $100 tipped in gold and I still don't make anywhere near $500/hr. I don't want to accuse any model of lying about her placement, and we all know placement doesn't mean anything in terms of revenue.

And I totally agree with you about the girls who complain how dead it is.
I don't follow a lot of the postings and comments from people on here so I'm out of the loop. I just know it's like damn. I just want to say to all models who are aggravated.. .Let's be grateful.
A few glitches or driving an hour on icy roads?
Incompetent support or catty coworkers that gossip about you and an over demanding boss?
$10/hr washing dishes or $20/hr showing off your tits in the comfort of your own home?

Even bottom income models make more per hour than the bottom income brick and mortar worker. Seriously. In this economy can we please just count our blessings?

KittenGirl
02-06-2022, 03:07 PM
i see literally zero benefit to lying about my placement. i believe i have even tried to ask if other girls in the top rows experience deadness like me. PM me if you want my username. :)

of course i don't make $300-500/hr on average, traffic has always been inconsistent for me from day 1 so my earnings are peaks and valleys. that said, the potential is there with traffic so my good days i really do make money fairly quickly w/very high rates+ tips. 'findom' is my second top tag... so while one hour might me great, the next two could be dead and drags down my average.

before the holidays i consistently made very good paychecks in 20 hours time. hitting $2k at 15hrs usually then it slowed down at the end of week. sundays & mondays are my big days. you are right that i work way less now, but it reflects my experience with glitches and deadness. which are REAL and frustrating.

all platforms to me are a means to an end, an avenue to make $$$. they all have their pros and cons. they are ALL worthy of criticism. i think i am a natural born whiner, even my best streamate week in 22 hrs i was bitching. i often have to ban myself from venting in STFO and it works sometimes. i'll just try to STFU


You don't need to stfu. You have every right to be frustrated at the glitches and stuff. But I'm not sure what glitches exactly those are and I'm not about to spend two hours researching what all you've posted. If you get upset about bitrate dropping and stuff, mine is all over the place. Iliterally do not pay attention to that. I hide it. But men can see me and hear me just fine. I've learned that some men have phones that can't handle c2c and some have computers that need chrome. Sometimes it's them and not you hunny.
Also, I log off after one hour and shut my computer down and give it a five minute break. For some reason after an hour my computer will crash or the site starts to get wonky. So I shut everything down and I take a breather and get back on. Seems to fix my issues.
Is there anything else going on?

SoloDesire
02-06-2022, 03:47 PM
It just seems like 80% of this thread is sm bashing

That's because our "venting" thread got closed by mods for being too "negative" so now everyone comes here to vent about Streamate. Maybe if we had a proper thread to vent then this thread wouldn't be so full of it. :boxedin:

JustMilfnAround
02-06-2022, 04:24 PM
I just want to say to all models who are aggravated.. .Let's be grateful.
A few glitches or driving an hour on icy roads?
Incompetent support or catty coworkers that gossip about you and an over demanding boss?
$10/hr washing dishes or $20/hr showing off your tits in the comfort of your own home?

Even bottom income models make more per hour than the bottom income brick and mortar worker. Seriously. In this economy can we please just count our blessings?

Fantastically put and a wonderful reminder! I'm going to print this and keep it taped to my monitor. I remind myself of this as often as I can remember to and it always snaps me right from bitching to being grateful. Thank you!

Marina Starr
02-06-2022, 04:41 PM
At this point I don't think that would be a bad idea since the demand for SM venting is higher than this thread can handle.

Be it legit or not, it's not healthy to read so much venting posts before getting on cam. Negativity and bad vibes are a huge recipe for not making money.
It's hard to manifest making money when reading back to back posts on how horrible it is. Being hesitant getting on cam after reading how bad it is will show.
If you're not making money then that validates what so and so said how bad it is was right. It's a vicious cycle that keeps cycling.

So a dedicated thread for how bad SM is would be great for when you specifically want to vent, read or participate in conversations on how bad it is.

I've lost count how many times I've read this thread and go 'Oh my good Lord!'.

https://i.ibb.co/NWkRLJv/giphy-1.gif (https://imgbb.com/)



That's because our "venting" thread got closed by mods for being too "negative" so now everyone comes here to vent about Streamate. Maybe if we had a proper thread to vent then this thread wouldn't be so full of it. :boxedin:

bigbum
02-06-2022, 05:42 PM
on a lighter note.... i finally solved my noise issue. ill be working very comfortably now. lol
marina might say ive gone a bit well.... batshit LOLLLLL
56597

Marina Starr
02-06-2022, 05:47 PM
LMAO, are you highly medicated as well?

I'm looking at your picture very closely and I saw the blind and the string to pull it up or down. What are the three grey pieces for?


on a lighter note.... i finally solved my noise issue. ill be working very comfortably now. lol
marina might say ive gone a bit well.... batshit LOLLLLL
56597

bigbum
02-06-2022, 06:31 PM
LMAO, are you highly medicated as well?

I'm looking at your picture very closely and I saw the blind and the string to pull it up or down. What are the three grey pieces for?
i drywalled the whole fucking window completely closed. 4 inches thick with insulation and covered in cement on the sides to seal it
i completely closed in the window
i left the blinds up. they are double one is black out the gray one and the other is more sheer the white one so I have double .

as far as being medicated i do take my thyroid pills lol not sure if that counts. and i drink about 6 espressos a day. lol .



the idea to cement my window shut came to me in a dream. i had a dream that my husband and i bought bricks and we started laying bricks to close the window.

so what can i say? Dreams do come true!!!

bobsandvangene
02-06-2022, 06:55 PM
I just wanna say that I relate to what minibagel is saying A LOT. I’m always placed in top row, top second sometimes, but never anything below three and there have been days where I’ve sat there and made pennies when my usual average hourly is in the triple digits.

There is something up with traffic at random times, glitches or something because it doesn’t make sense for people to come in and not say ANYTHING in a room where I so obviously do my best to interact. It’s demoralising as all hell! It really really makes their cut sting because I’m not seeing a lot for it.

It isn’t really about how much money we make at the end of the day for it not to effect us. My philosophy has always been to work smarter, not harder. It would be a lot easier to work smarter if we got a bigger cut, or at least had a website that functioned perfectly all the time.

bigbum
02-06-2022, 10:21 PM
Okay but you complain about SM way more than you praise it, so how common are you making money like this? If it's only happening once in a blue moon Idk if it's worth staying on a site you hate?



Ngl I find this hard to believe. It's rare for me to be in rows 1-3 and I'm not having the issues you are. From the STFO thread you don't seem like you do very many hours either so unless you are making crazy money during the few hours you work a week I find it hard to believe your placement is always so high, and if that was the case I don't think you'd be so upset with SM 'not working' all the time.

Something I have noticed a lot is girls---who regularly post about how dead it is and how bad they're doing---will talk about how dead/bad it is for them even though they're in the "top row" or "have great placement" and it definitely makes me suspicious.

i can assure you there is nothing to be suspicious of.

bigbum
02-06-2022, 10:22 PM
^^PMed you.

....ETA if I see that Minibagel is indeed a 1-2 row chick I will eat crow for her in this thread(but Idk when we will be online at the same time to find out so please anyone don't think I'm purposely avoiding addressing it).
better start eating lolll

gbjenna
02-06-2022, 10:38 PM
Am I the only person who sees us getting paid a higher cut potentially becoming problematic?

If people think we don’t get enough for our 30-35% percent, what makes people think we’d get more or the same for a higher % cut? Something tells me that if SM pay us more money and have less money to put into the company, then somehow we might end up getting “even less” than we apparently already do?

There’s the point made that MFC pay more but have stale traffic.. maybe those two factors go hand in hand.

Then there’s the pricing aspect. SM raise the % cut, how many people might subsequently lower their rates to more “reasonable” price points (now they can afford to as they’re getting a bigger cut) so that more guys can afford to do shows?
This could then force people to lower their rates across the board. Which means we could end up making the same for more work.

Also, I know there’s always a million and one reasons for it to be dead online for people, but realistically, the world is in turmoil at the moment. Covid, lockdowns, loss of jobs and businesses as a result, inflation and cost of living going up at a rapid rate, people’s mental health is getting shafted with everything going on and all the uncertainty.. I’m sure not all guys resort to having a wank to help their mental health.
Maybe it’s not always a SM problem and it’s literally general life shit that affects our traffic some days!!!

And placement doesn’t mean much I don’t think. I’m always top row in my country from what I can see, but if I check with a vpn as if I’m in the US, I’m usually row 11.

Seriously though, if people don’t like the site or what it pays then there’s plenty of others. I’ve worked 6 in total and I consistently make the most on SM by a long shot. So I’m staying put. A rant and a moan every now and again about a shit day or week does no harm but constantly moaning about the same old repetitive issues (eg low % cut) which clearly aren’t changing and doing nothing about it, is the definition of insanity.

~Carmen~
02-06-2022, 10:49 PM
At this point I don't think that would be a bad idea since the demand for SM venting is higher than this thread can handle.

Be it legit or not, it's not healthy to read so much venting posts before getting on cam. Negativity and bad vibes are a huge recipe for not making money.
It's hard to manifest making money when reading back to back posts on how horrible it is. Being hesitant getting on cam after reading how bad it is will show.
If you're not making money then that validates what so and so said how bad it is was right. It's a vicious cycle that keeps cycling.

So a dedicated thread for how bad SM is would great for when you specifically want to vent, read or participate in conversations on how bad it is.

I've lost count how many times I've read this thread and go 'Oh my good Lord!'.

https://i.ibb.co/NWkRLJv/giphy-1.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

Yes!! I would like to have a choice for reading "camming sucks" posts. I don't think there's anything wrong with venting but I would like a choice whether to read it or not. Reading a bunch of bad stuff can't help but bring you down.

It's hard enough to stay positive on cam when so much negativity already comes at us from members.

fetishqueen
02-07-2022, 02:45 AM
Am I the only person who sees us getting paid a higher cut potentially becoming problematic?

If people think we don’t get enough for our 30-35% percent, what makes people think we’d get more or the same for a higher % cut? Something tells me that if SM pay us more money and have less money to put into the company, then somehow we might end up getting “even less” than we apparently already do?

There’s the point made that MFC pay more but have stale traffic.. maybe those two factors go hand in hand.

Then there’s the pricing aspect. SM raise the % cut, how many people might subsequently lower their rates to more “reasonable” price points (now they can afford to as they’re getting a bigger cut) so that more guys can afford to do shows?
This could then force people to lower their rates across the board. Which means we could end up making the same for more work.

Also, I know there’s always a million and one reasons for it to be dead online for people, but realistically, the world is in turmoil at the moment. Covid, lockdowns, loss of jobs and businesses as a result, inflation and cost of living going up at a rapid rate, people’s mental health is getting shafted with everything going on and all the uncertainty.. I’m sure not all guys resort to having a wank to help their mental health.
Maybe it’s not always a SM problem and it’s literally general life shit that affects our traffic some days!!!

And placement doesn’t mean much I don’t think. I’m always top row in my country from what I can see, but if I check with a vpn as if I’m in the US, I’m usually row 11.

Seriously though, if people don’t like the site or what it pays then there’s plenty of others. I’ve worked 6 in total and I consistently make the most on SM by a long shot. So I’m staying put. A rant and a moan every now and again about a shit day or week does no harm but constantly moaning about the same old repetitive issues (eg low % cut) which clearly aren’t changing and doing nothing about it, is the definition of insanity.

Well said Jenna. I work two sites and there are regular glitches on both, yes I do moan about it from time to time. But being on two at least gives the chance that while one is messing about, the other might be ok! I realise working more would be even better but for me two is my max to feel comfortable.

There probably should be a thread for glitches or problems, that way people can look there to see if there are issues without it overwhelming this one. We do need somewhere to vent because this job can be quite isolating but perhaps keep it separate from the general site thread.

Not only that, people would be able to go there to find quick answers rather than trawling through lots of posts.

Miss_ShaSha
02-07-2022, 05:07 AM
I'm kinda known as the STFO person, and I can be the poster child for "it's dead" as I often have to sit hours to make my money. The STFO thread and Camming Sucks thread got me through real tough times. I've been in a couple slumps...and that's what they are. It's not SM and it's not me...it's just how business can be for many business owners.

Camming Sucks NEVER stopped me from making good money. In fact, it helped me STFO. I often used to post in Camming Sucks then turn around 8 hrs later and post in Camming Rocks.

A venting thread can be highly beneficial. It certainly was for me. I went from page 10 to page 1 posting and reading STFO and Camming Sucks. Camming Rocks is helpful too, but sometimes can make individuals who are struggling feel even worse.

Strawberryblonde
02-07-2022, 05:55 AM
Is anyone else having issues, my stream froze so I closed the window, reopened I cannot get my stream to start.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-07-2022, 07:55 AM
I hear your cries. I've been reading the thread as it seems the SM conversation needs to be frequently monitored. I am not reopening the old vent threads but I may create a new one with stipulations that will need to be respected and followed. If that can't be done then I will shut it down all over again. For now I have to tend to a sick dog and run some errands. Please give me time to think it over because I have some serious concerns I'd like to express. Until then be mature, kind and respectful to one another.

Strawberryblonde
02-07-2022, 08:06 AM
Is anyone else having issues, my stream froze so I closed the window, reopened I cannot get my stream to start.

All ok now, phew.

JoiDivision
02-07-2022, 08:14 AM
Does anyone have tips for streaming on mobile? Every time I get through the verification process on my phone, it says "You are not able to stream. Sorry! We were not able to complete the diagnostic at this time. Please try again later". My face is in the frame and everything, so I don't think that's the issue. It's an iPhone 7, if that matters.

EDIT: Nevermind! Switching from the Chrome browser to Safari did the trick, for some reason.

whirlerz
02-07-2022, 08:21 AM
I hear your cries. I've been reading the thread as it seems the SM conversation needs to be frequently monitored. I am not reopening the old vent threads but I may create a new one with stipulations that will need to be respected and followed. If that can't be done then I will shut it down all over again. For now I have to tend to a sick dog and run some errands. Please give me time to think it over because I have some serious concerns I'd like to express. Until then be mature, kind and respectful to one another.

I hope all goes well with your Doggo.

Strawberryblonde
02-07-2022, 08:35 AM
I'm not sure what's gone on here re the thread, but what I do is flit around the threads, just look for useful stuff or places I can contribute a little. This may be because I'm a mini-monomaniac, I can fully absorb in one thing then get lost what I have to watch for is too much flitting. I think I also look for stimulation, otherwise I fall asleep.

ggminx
02-07-2022, 09:29 AM
i drywalled the whole fucking window completely closed. 4 inches thick with insulation and covered in cement on the sides to seal it
i completely closed in the window
i left the blinds up. they are double one is black out the gray one and the other is more sheer the white one so I have double .

as far as being medicated i do take my thyroid pills lol not sure if that counts. and i drink about 6 espressos a day. lol .



the idea to cement my window shut came to me in a dream. i had a dream that my husband and i bought bricks and we started laying bricks to close the window.

so what can i say? Dreams do come true!!!

LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!! totally doing this!!!!!!

bigbum
02-07-2022, 09:33 AM
LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!! totally doing this!!!!!!
its totally worth it!! yeterday my neighbors had people over in their backyard which faces my window and i was still able to cam ! i banked too!
so i already saw return on my investment 12 hours later!
i wish i had this dream sooner

bigbum
02-07-2022, 09:41 AM
Am I the only person who sees us getting paid a higher cut potentially becoming problematic?

If people think we don’t get enough for our 30-35% percent, what makes people think we’d get more or the same for a higher % cut? Something tells me that if SM pay us more money and have less money to put into the company, then somehow we might end up getting “even less” than we apparently already do?

There’s the point made that MFC pay more but have stale traffic.. maybe those two factors go hand in hand.

Then there’s the pricing aspect. SM raise the % cut, how many people might subsequently lower their rates to more “reasonable” price points (now they can afford to as they’re getting a bigger cut) so that more guys can afford to do shows?
This could then force people to lower their rates across the board. Which means we could end up making the same for more work.

Also, I know there’s always a million and one reasons for it to be dead online for people, but realistically, the world is in turmoil at the moment. Covid, lockdowns, loss of jobs and businesses as a result, inflation and cost of living going up at a rapid rate, people’s mental health is getting shafted with everything going on and all the uncertainty.. I’m sure not all guys resort to having a wank to help their mental health.
Maybe it’s not always a SM problem and it’s literally general life shit that affects our traffic some days!!!

And placement doesn’t mean much I don’t think. I’m always top row in my country from what I can see, but if I check with a vpn as if I’m in the US, I’m usually row 11.

Seriously though, if people don’t like the site or what it pays then there’s plenty of others. I’ve worked 6 in total and I consistently make the most on SM by a long shot. So I’m staying put. A rant and a moan every now and again about a shit day or week does no harm but constantly moaning about the same old repetitive issues (eg low % cut) which clearly aren’t changing and doing nothing about it, is the definition of insanity.

this is my point exactly about the affilate marking. and sourcing traffic costs a lot of money. sm puts a TON into into it.
my point exactly

SapphireXO
02-07-2022, 10:56 AM
i drywalled the whole fucking window completely closed. 4 inches thick with insulation and covered in cement on the sides to seal it
i completely closed in the window
i left the blinds up. they are double one is black out the gray one and the other is more sheer the white one so I have double .

as far as being medicated i do take my thyroid pills lol not sure if that counts. and i drink about 6 espressos a day. lol .



the idea to cement my window shut came to me in a dream. i had a dream that my husband and i bought bricks and we started laying bricks to close the window.

so what can i say? Dreams do come true!!!

GOD DAMN THAT IS COMMITMENT. Not fire code but I approve hahaha. Get that money girl!

Erika_Xstacy
02-07-2022, 11:26 AM
i drywalled the whole fucking window completely closed. 4 inches thick with insulation and covered in cement on the sides to seal it
i completely closed in the window
i left the blinds up. they are double one is black out the gray one and the other is more sheer the white one so I have double .

as far as being medicated i do take my thyroid pills lol not sure if that counts. and i drink about 6 espressos a day. lol .



the idea to cement my window shut came to me in a dream. i had a dream that my husband and i bought bricks and we started laying bricks to close the window.

so what can i say? Dreams do come true!!!

lol this made my day. 3am thoughts.

roseforarose
02-07-2022, 12:08 PM
So on the back of the bitrate topic, does anyone definitively know what bitrate we need to have the 'excellent' stream quality in 1080p?

My bitrate is currently fluctuating from 1.5-3.5mbps and is just stuck around fair, SM is varying my quality between 960x540p and 1080p.

According to the speed tests I've done my upload speed is actually around 10mbps right now, which is pretty decent for the UK (I know that's considered slow elsewhere), for whatever reason it's just slow af on SM.

Erika_Xstacy
02-07-2022, 12:18 PM
So on the back of the bitrate topic, does anyone definitively know what bitrate we need to have the 'excellent' stream quality in 1080p?

My bitrate is currently fluctuating from 1.5-3.5mbps and is just stuck around fair, SM is varying my quality between 960x540p and 1080p.

According to the speed tests I've done my upload speed is actually around 10mbps right now, which is pretty decent for the UK (I know that's considered slow elsewhere), for whatever reason it's just slow af on SM.

its hard to tell but I will keep a eye on mine today for you

have you tried rebooting your computer? unplugging and replugging your cam?
I have also had to flip to different modes in the broadcaster dropdown but then back to the c922 and it will register (logi, obs, cyberlink), to get the c922 to show up as 1080 and i cant use any software such as logi or it will not register and give me whack resolutions but picks up resolution most times fine using the basic built in or just the c922

does this make sense to you bc i feel like im confusing and this is why i offer zero tech help lmao but this is one I figured out on my end so if it helps .... :)

AlyyRose999
02-07-2022, 12:53 PM
Does anyone have streamates EIN I still havnt received my 1099 and need to file taxes soon

kamiliam
02-07-2022, 01:32 PM
So on the back of the bitrate topic, does anyone definitively know what bitrate we need to have the 'excellent' stream quality in 1080p?

My bitrate is currently fluctuating from 1.5-3.5mbps and is just stuck around fair, SM is varying my quality between 960x540p and 1080p.

According to the speed tests I've done my upload speed is actually around 10mbps right now, which is pretty decent for the UK (I know that's considered slow elsewhere), for whatever reason it's just slow af on SM.


I’m usually at 3-4 something and excellent I go back and forth between 1080 and 1440. It goes yellow around 2

Genoveve
02-07-2022, 02:17 PM
^^^Same.

roseforarose
02-07-2022, 02:35 PM
I’m usually at 3-4 something and excellent I go back and forth between 1080 and 1440. It goes yellow around 2

thank you! The rest of my stream it was between fair and excellent, about an hour into the stream it seemed to settle into excellent at 2.5ish, and stayed at excellent for most of the stream. I did have an odd bit where it was reading at poor but all green and 4mbps when expanded though. Either way I didn't have any complaints from guys so I guess fair vs excellent doesn't matter too much to them