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whirlerz
04-02-2022, 10:31 AM
Ya I went back to windows 10 and going to hold onto it as long as I can after the hell I went through windows 11

Im so happy we can send mass pix and videos, now if we could just get a ppv option it would be a so amazing.

Thanks for posting your experience, I'm glad I didn't go w/11 yet

bigbum
04-02-2022, 07:54 PM
Wow no posts in ages!

I messaged Liz last night regarding the lack of notification messages we get now when we send out videos. I'm sure she won't mind me posting her helpful response..

"We have been experiencing issues with our confirmation messages when performers send media to users. Neither performer or user is receiving confirmation messages at this time. Our technicians are aware and we are actively working on a solution.

When you send videos via Media Manager/Give Video, the videos will appear automatically in the selected user’s MY MEDIA COLLECTION section of their homepage."

So hopefully only temporary. I hope so, I like to know they got the video I sent!

this is a huge issue for me. i wake up every day to dozens of ppl asking where are the vids i promised them. when i did indeed send them
it creates a lot of work for me.
thank you for contacting her and for sharing this post. very helpful fetishqueen!

Luci Fer
04-03-2022, 01:34 AM
Thanks roseforarose- slow streaming is definitely a concern I had! I'm not sure if changing flag would help, tbh. I mean, they can pretty much tell I'm in US, my regs all know that now, plus, I read that the ones who really want to find out our location can somehow do it through finding our our IP address, apparently can if they know how to do that??

Hey there. I use VPN.I had no problems at all, even when here girls complained they had glitches while streaming, my stream was fine. But I use cable internet and the speed is 100Mbps.
You mean they guess your state in America? You could just use geo-block and block your state.

JailBird
04-03-2022, 03:06 AM
Long time cam girl.

Friendly reminder to read the TOS.

Most of the things complained about on this thread are caused because you're breaking the rules.

Biggest one would be split camming.

It's against the rules on EVERY camsite.

(I'm a top model on Streamate. Please don't ask who I am because I will not give my personal information to anyone.)

I've tried to contact models before and when I tell them who I am they tell me to kill myself so my cam name is not something I give out anymore.

If you don't trust me, I don't blame you.

But if you want to understand SM better feel free to PM me.
I have no problem skyping with people but I will not be threatened or bullied by models because of jealously.
I worked very hard to be where I am.

I started from the bottom just like everyone else.
I am retiring in three years from camming but will remain in the industry.
I want to help but so many people on this site have been so rude to me.

gbjenna
04-03-2022, 04:37 AM
It was said in the SM discord by a SM rep that split camming is not against the rules.

Though it was said that it can be bad practice, especially if people stream their private shows to a freemium site at the same time and it’s a common reason for customers to ask for refunds, apparently. So they advise against it.

Ambercat
04-03-2022, 04:37 AM
"It's against the rules on EVERY camsite."

This is incorrect. Stripchat for example have written an article on their blog explaining how to stream on StripChat using Splitcam.

I can't find anything in streamate rules forbidding it so please link to the correxct part of their TOC to back up your statement.

Ambercat
04-03-2022, 04:54 AM
It was said in the SM discord by a SM rep that split camming is not against the rules.

Though it was said that it can be bad practice, especially if people stream their private shows to a freemium site at the same time and it’s a common reason for customers to ask for refunds, apparently. So they advise against it.

Welcome back by the way! Hope your recovery went well x

SapphireXO
04-03-2022, 05:46 AM
How much RAM do you have? I was on my laptop with only 8GB for a couple days and it was significantly worse than my desktop computers

I got a new custom iMac last year. I have 64GB and another 16GB on my graphics card. #NoRegrets

VVV
04-03-2022, 08:16 AM
I got a new custom iMac last year. I have 64GB and another 16GB on my graphics card. #NoRegrets

so mac is SM friendly? i think i am going to buy one LOL better for everything and update things also.

JailBird
04-03-2022, 08:21 AM
Thanks for proving my point.

A blog is not a contract you sign.

Read the TOS. It takes like five minutes.

JailBird
04-03-2022, 08:23 AM
SM Discord is not a legally binding contract you sign.

FloridaSunDoll
04-03-2022, 10:10 AM
Thanks for proving my point.

A blog is not a contract you sign.

Read the TOS. It takes like five minutes.

where in the "terms of service" do you see that? I just looked at the CofC

FloridaSunDoll
04-03-2022, 10:14 AM
Has anyone noticed an influx of really old customers coming back out of no where? Like guys that haven't done a show since 2019 suddenly back in my room and lots of them. Also, names that were DEFINITELY on my block list are suddenly making an appearance.. Strange

Ambercat
04-03-2022, 10:59 AM
SM Discord is not a legally binding contract you sign.

So you're saying the staff at streamate lie to us in the discord group so we break this "legally binding contract". I already said I can't find what you mention in the streamate rules and asked for you to provide a link for it but even though your initial post has said you want to help as many models as possible you've only replied to say 2 of us are wrong without validating your claim.

Please if you are here to enlighten us and add value to the forum do it, so far you just come across as rude.

SuperPookie
04-03-2022, 11:05 AM
@ Jailbird -er it isn't against TOS to split cam on SM, only to mention other sites. There's a big difference.

Ambercat
04-03-2022, 11:07 AM
Has anyone noticed an influx of really old customers coming back out of no where? Like guys that haven't done a show since 2019 suddenly back in my room and lots of them. Also, names that were DEFINITELY on my block list are suddenly making an appearance.. Strange

Yes I have, 3 times in the last week I've had decent length shows with customers whose usernames I recognise but haven't seen since at least last April (when I began my current sm profile). Hopefully these latest tweeks to the site and springtime are bringing good times.

I've not noticed people on my block list reappearing but I'll keep an eye out.

MissAdriana
04-03-2022, 11:20 AM
Has anyone noticed an influx of really old customers coming back out of no where? Like guys that haven't done a show since 2019 suddenly back in my room and lots of them. Also, names that were DEFINITELY on my block list are suddenly making an appearance.. Strange

Yes and yes except mine is customers from any time at all I had saw um 2015,2016,2017, all years coming back again

A few guys are the same guys making new accounts because they been banned. I called some of them out, they will tell you and not even deny it that they are coming back to freeload again. I ban them agian

Erika_Xstacy
04-03-2022, 11:42 AM
The split cam is a old rule. Ancient.
Sm had a issue w models streaming the exact stream to other sites like MFC

It might be a rule for some studios nowadays but not sm directly

kamiliam
04-03-2022, 12:06 PM
Long time cam girl.

Friendly reminder to read the TOS.

Most of the things complained about on this thread are caused because you're breaking the rules.

Biggest one would be split camming.



I’m just trying to determine what you believe we are complaining about that split camming is the culprit? Bitrate? Perhaps in some cases but not all.

Too be fair we complain about a lot of things and there are thousands of posts in this thread alone. But obviously something prompted you to post despite your negative experiences.

anonamiss
04-03-2022, 08:24 PM
I don't mean to cause a fuss here but I kind of enjoy interpreting and talking about legal contracts so I wanted to contribute to the splitcam/rules discussion, even though I don't splitcam. I seem to recall taking part in a similar discussion here a long time ago but I may be mistaken or maybe it happened on another forum.

Firstly I think there are a lot of models who may not realize the Code of Conduct and Terms and Conditions are two separate documents. Here is the Terms and Conditions page, which I believe is the actual contract you are presented with when you initially sign up.
https://www.streamatemodels.com/documents/en/terms.pdf

The "Code of Conduct" (https://www.streamatemodels.com/conduct.php) is way more generalized and easy to read compared to the long boring legalese T/C document. Any easy "Control F" search will show you that the word "split" (as in "split cam") is not used in either their Code of Conduct OR Terms and Conditions.

However under Section I "Content" of the Terms and Conditions, it does say this:
"You shall not record, copy, make a video of, or in any way reproduce any of the Content appearing on Streamate’s website, including but not limited to any part or portion of a live performance. Additionally, you shall not post on another website, send to another person, or in any other way whatsoever redistribute any of the Content available on Streamate’s website, including but not limited to any part or portion of a live performance."

To me this has always been the clause that could be interpreted as "no split camming allowed", without explicitly using that language (because split camming is quite literally "copying/reproducing" your live performance on another site). It also means you aren't supposed to record and resell your shows on other fan sites, which a lot of models do and seem to get away with. At the end of the day this is the part of the contract that effectively states Streamate owns anything you upload and transmit through their site, which is presumably why your photos and live stream recordings are allowed to be used for various Streamate white label promos.

Like I said, not trying to stir anything up, simply presenting information.

If the rule has changed, or effectively isn't enforced anymore, then SM should update and remove it from their Terms contract. Otherwise, what is plainly there in the contract is what I would personally trust the most.

anonamiss
04-03-2022, 08:35 PM
So you're saying the staff at streamate lie to us in the discord group so we break this "legally binding contract". I already said I can't find what you mention in the streamate rules and asked for you to provide a link for it but even though your initial post has said you want to help as many models as possible you've only replied to say 2 of us are wrong without validating your claim.

Please if you are here to enlighten us and add value to the forum do it, so far you just come across as rude.

I posted an excerpt from the actual contract that may pertain to this discussion.

I have gotten the impression over my eight years on Streamate that you generally shouldn't put full trust in anything a random representative from Streamate tells you. I have not participated in the Discord chat but from the sounds of it, it does seem more helpful and direct than just emailing generic monkey tech support and getting questionable/canned responses. But unless I get it in writing from someone higher up like Liz, I never fully trust what an SM rep says in regards to rules. It's not that they are lying, per se, it's just that they may be uninformed.

~Carmen~
04-03-2022, 09:13 PM
56964

I found it on this page:

https://streamatehelp.com/video-galleries/#toggle-id-8

anonamiss
04-03-2022, 09:16 PM
56964

to me all that says is if you filmed a video (i.e. a clip you produced outside of streamate/when you were not live streaming on their platform) then that video belongs to you and you can upload/sell it wherever you please, including but not limited to streamate.

that isn't necessarily the same as recording a live show you did on streamate and reselling or rebroadcasting it elsewhere.

again this goes back to what i said about their FAQ/Code of Conduct being oversimplified. the more specific language to watch out for is in the terms and conditions.

edit: i could be completely wrong here, i am just pointing out the language discrepancies

bigbum
04-03-2022, 09:17 PM
Has anyone noticed an influx of really old customers coming back out of no where? Like guys that haven't done a show since 2019 suddenly back in my room and lots of them. Also, names that were DEFINITELY on my block list are suddenly making an appearance.. Strange
omg yes that "dave gloves" or something like that who always asks for gloves (fake as fuck)
i blocked him forever ago and there he was last night in my room! i was like... whattttt....


THANKS MY POST IF YOU KNOW WHO "DAVE GLOVES" IS ROFL

kamiliam
04-03-2022, 09:23 PM
omg yes that "dave gloves" or something like that who always asks for gloves (fake as fuck)
i blocked him forever ago and there he was last night in my room! i was like... whattttt....


THANKS MY POST IF YOU KNOW WHO "DAVE GLOVES" IS ROFL


one time I got him to do a show, lasted bare minimum. When I called him out for being a broke bitch he insulted my gloves lol

bigbum
04-03-2022, 09:33 PM
Long time cam girl.

Friendly reminder to read the TOS.

Most of the things complained about on this thread are caused because you're breaking the rules.

Biggest one would be split camming.

It's against the rules on EVERY camsite.

(I'm a top model on Streamate. Please don't ask who I am because I will not give my personal information to anyone.)

I've tried to contact models before and when I tell them who I am they tell me to kill myself so my cam name is not something I give out anymore.

If you don't trust me, I don't blame you.

But if you want to understand SM better feel free to PM me.
I have no problem skyping with people but I will not be threatened or bullied by models because of jealously.
I worked very hard to be where I am.

I started from the bottom just like everyone else.
I am retiring in three years from camming but will remain in the industry.
I want to help but so many people on this site have been so rude to me.

welcome to our group! over the past year stripperweb has been a place where I have met amazing, inspiring women, and ive learned and grown so much not only as a cam model, but as a person and with my financial journey. I have met ladies from all over the world and its been great to have a sense of community and support for our cam life.
A few users you are chatting with in this thread right now are top models just like you, a few of which finished top in the contest last week in fact.
And I dont think people are "telling them to kill themselves" or threatening them as far as I know.
Also there quite a few models on here who are earning well over $150 or $200 an hour which would rank them pretty high on the site as well, but perhaps they dont share their earnings too much on the forum but add a lot to this great community.
Even outside of SM new members on SW posted i think it was $27,000 in month in camming rocks.. and I dont think people are threatening her life as far as I know.

Anyways my advice, would be to come to this group with an open heart, open mind , and positive out look .

big hugs.

bigbum
04-03-2022, 09:35 PM
one time I got him to do a show, lasted bare minimum. When I called him out for being a broke bitch he insulted my gloves lol
OMG OMG !!! you actually did a show with him?!
you made my night.

Ambercat
04-03-2022, 10:26 PM
I don't mean to cause a fuss here but I kind of enjoy interpreting and talking about legal contracts so I wanted to contribute to the splitcam/rules discussion, even though I don't splitcam. I seem to recall taking part in a similar discussion here a long time ago but I may be mistaken or maybe it happened on another forum.

Firstly I think there are a lot of models who may not realize the Code of Conduct and Terms and Conditions are two separate documents. Here is the Terms and Conditions page, which I believe is the actual contract you are presented with when you initially sign up.
https://www.streamatemodels.com/documents/en/terms.pdf

The "Code of Conduct" (https://www.streamatemodels.com/conduct.php) is way more generalized and easy to read compared to the long boring legalese T/C document. Any easy "Control F" search will show you that the word "split" (as in "split cam") is not used in either their Code of Conduct OR Terms and Conditions.

However under Section I "Content" of the Terms and Conditions, it does say this:
"You shall not record, copy, make a video of, or in any way reproduce any of the Content appearing on Streamate’s website, including but not limited to any part or portion of a live performance. Additionally, you shall not post on another website, send to another person, or in any other way whatsoever redistribute any of the Content available on Streamate’s website, including but not limited to any part or portion of a live performance."

To me this has always been the clause that could be interpreted as "no split camming allowed", without explicitly using that language (because split camming is quite literally "copying/reproducing" your live performance on another site). It also means you aren't supposed to record and resell your shows on other fan sites, which a lot of models do and seem to get away with. At the end of the day this is the part of the contract that effectively states Streamate owns anything you upload and transmit through their site, which is presumably why your photos and live stream recordings are allowed to be used for various Streamate white label promos.

Like I said, not trying to stir anything up, simply presenting information.

If the rule has changed, or effectively isn't enforced anymore, then SM should update and remove it from their Terms contract. Otherwise, what is plainly there in the contract is what I would personally trust the most.

Thanks for highlighting this. I'm deffo guilty of ignoring that the terms and code of conduct are two separate docs and I did not reread the terms. Now I have I remember thinking how in a couple of places it contradicts itself and you're right - someone with actual authority over the site would need to give us a definitive answer but I feel that the terms apply to customers and then our code of conduct and the model FAQ clarifies points specific to us.

There are 2 models who regularly rank top 50 at the moment that openly splitcam, just a few minutes in their room makes it really clear so if I've happened across it someone who works on the site surely has. Also the BS studio and their models got in trouble across the board for not muting/hiding cams when they were performing on their primary platform - surely the changes they've made mean they're now complying with streamate rules or there would have been more repercussions?

Ambercat
04-03-2022, 10:30 PM
one time I got him to do a show, lasted bare minimum. When I called him out for being a broke bitch he insulted my gloves lol

This is good to know. He pops up in my room every once in a while and I'm glad I've not made any effort to aquire gloves suitable for his needs. Initially he wanted satin but since they've been out of storage he's been asking for medical and I was intending to get a friend to save me a pair.

anonamiss
04-03-2022, 10:36 PM
so i am tempted to fully retract my last long post, but i'll keep it up for context/discussion.

i went down a bit of a rabbit hole after clicking the streamatehelp link in Carmen's last post about video uploads. i eventually found myself at the "Performer-Studio agreement" page, and i am realizing that this (https://streamatehelp.com/performerstudio-agreement/) is not the same as the "Terms and Conditions" i initially posted. my bad.

i would love for a knowledgeable person to chime in about this because it's driving me a little bonkers. i am now wondering if the T/C document I initially linked may actually be what the customer/user agrees to when signing up, not the model/performer. if that is the case then the clause i quoted about recording/reproducing live performances can be interpreted quite a bit differently if it's being directed at site users, not models (basically telling *users* they can't record/redistribute shows, which makes sense.) but i found that page after googling "streamate models terms of service", and it is linked via the streamatemodels.com site, not just the regular streamate site, so i am honestly not sure if it blanketly applies to both models and customers or not.

however i also skimmed the Performer Agreement linked above and could not find the same language about recording/reproducing content.

section H/Ownership of Content does state "Performer hereby assigns to Streamate all rights, title and interests in all such Uploaded Content. We shall then own all such Uploaded Content, and we will have the sole discretion to use any such Uploaded Content in any way it so chooses", so what I said about SM owning/using your material for promo still stands. but this doesn't directly address the question of split cam, recording, redistributing, etc. and whether or not it's against the terms. they can theoretically "own" what we post/stream and still give us additional rights to use our content elsewhere if we so choose. but the only time the term "nonexclusive" comes up is in the separate clause about California models.

it's late and i'm tired and have had some wine so i may have overlooked it if it's there in either document. in any case some clarification would be greatly appreciated. i'd specifically like to hear from JailBird, since i wasn't necessarily trying to corroborate their claims. i just wanted to post what i remember seeing in contracts, so i am curious to see them present some direct evidence. it's clearly not as simple as just "reading the TOS" because as i've pointed out, there are a lot of discrepancies.

bigbum
04-03-2022, 10:57 PM
This is good to know. He pops up in my room every once in a while and I'm glad I've not made any effort to aquire gloves suitable for his needs. Initially he wanted satin but since they've been out of storage he's been asking for medical and I was intending to get a friend to save me a pair.

omg haha he is so fake .i had gloves by the box full during the pandemic and told him point blank. send me gold and ill go get the gloves... nope .. haha
blocked and banned after that. its funny how some members are so famous for being losers.

kamiliam
04-03-2022, 11:21 PM
It was these eco friendly dishwashing gloves I just bought that day or something, guess I made them sound mad sexy…they were a disappointment to his empty wallet self nonetheless. I used my stalling powers the best I could. blocked him the next time he stopped by and bitched.

Dreamqueen
04-04-2022, 12:34 AM
I was in the middle of an exclusive today ( The guy was in his truck ( cam to cam).
All of a sudden, he ended the show ( or so I thought).
He came back to the chat room and told me that he's been banned from doing shows for 24 hours, due to inappropriate comments.
I reread the exclusive chat, and there wasn't anything there.
I told him to call customer support and then message me what they said.
Has this ever happened to anyone?
I've of course read about models being suspended for saying things, but never a client.
He could be bullshitting me, but with the new credit card rules, who knows.

liquidsilk
04-04-2022, 12:57 AM
He could have been in another models room just before yours, or 4 days ago who knows, and that model reported them. Sometimes it will say "user was disconnected manually" which I heard was support yanking their account when they happen to be using the site at the time.

~Carmen~
04-04-2022, 01:11 AM
so i am tempted to fully retract my last long post, but i'll keep it up for context/discussion.

i went down a bit of a rabbit hole after clicking the streamatehelp link in Carmen's last post about video uploads. i eventually found myself at the "Performer-Studio agreement" page, and i am realizing that this (https://streamatehelp.com/performerstudio-agreement/) is not the same as the "Terms and Conditions" i initially posted. my bad.

i would love for a knowledgeable person to chime in about this because it's driving me a little bonkers. i am now wondering if the T/C document I initially linked may actually be what the customer/user agrees to when signing up, not the model/performer. if that is the case then the clause i quoted about recording/reproducing live performances can be interpreted quite a bit differently if it's being directed at site users, not models (basically telling *users* they can't record/redistribute shows, which makes sense.) but i found that page after googling "streamate models terms of service", and it is linked via the streamatemodels.com site, not just the regular streamate site, so i am honestly not sure if it blanketly applies to both models and customers or not.

however i also skimmed the Performer Agreement linked above and could not find the same language about recording/reproducing content.

section H/Ownership of Content does state "Performer hereby assigns to Streamate all rights, title and interests in all such Uploaded Content. We shall then own all such Uploaded Content, and we will have the sole discretion to use any such Uploaded Content in any way it so chooses", so what I said about SM owning/using your material for promo still stands. but this doesn't directly address the question of split cam, recording, redistributing, etc. and whether or not it's against the terms. they can theoretically "own" what we post/stream and still give us additional rights to use our content elsewhere if we so choose. but the only time the term "nonexclusive" comes up is in the separate clause about California models.

it's late and i'm tired and have had some wine so i may have overlooked it if it's there in either document. in any case some clarification would be greatly appreciated. i'd specifically like to hear from JailBird, since i wasn't necessarily trying to corroborate their claims. i just wanted to post what i remember seeing in contracts, so i am curious to see them present some direct evidence. it's clearly not as simple as just "reading the TOS" because as i've pointed out, there are a lot of discrepancies.

Thanks for looking all that up. I will keep my SM videos only on SM. Best to err on the side of caution until we know for sure.

liquidsilk
04-04-2022, 08:31 AM
Why is there money everywhere except streamate today sheesh.

VVV
04-04-2022, 09:25 AM
who use macintosh to stream with streamate? i just bought a pc which basically did not work and my actual one is shitty. so not anymore HP lol
all my IT friends suggest MAC i am scared to buy it if not SM friendly..

should i go for a mac or not?

tashiepuck
04-04-2022, 09:31 AM
Anyone having glitches today ? Stream keeps disconnecting ...

SapphireXO
04-04-2022, 09:34 AM
So you're saying the staff at streamate lie to us in the discord group so we break this "legally binding contract". I already said I can't find what you mention in the streamate rules and asked for you to provide a link for it but even though your initial post has said you want to help as many models as possible you've only replied to say 2 of us are wrong without validating your claim.

Please if you are here to enlighten us and add value to the forum do it, so far you just come across as rude.

The SM discord is very confusing. I'll never forget when they said you cannot/should not use the word "tip." ie. tip vibe, tip me, if you like our show please tip throughout etc. They said, "The word "tip" is an inaccurate word to use when asking for GOLD." Literally the same 2 weeks they did a contest and said our bonus was a GIFT. The word "gift" means without doing anything - you just receive the amount and gifts aren't taxed or subject to a percentage then etc. However, of course, it was not a gift as there was a stipulation based on logged in hours and earnings. Of course they took their percentage out of the "gift" and it was included on your 1099.

The SM discord is just messy. It's so messy I stopped reading it. They say one thing to one model and another to another model for the same topic often as well.

SapphireXO
04-04-2022, 09:42 AM
Your question is rather vague. I've been camming over 6 years and only used a mac. I used a Macbook Pro and now a custom iMac. My Macbook Pro did not have enough memory for the amount of HD graphics programs I was running on it but I run a hell of a lot more than just 1 site. Here is Streamates tech recommendations: https://streamaterecruiting.com/works/

SapphireXO
04-04-2022, 09:57 AM
welcome to our group! over the past year stripperweb has been a place where I have met amazing, inspiring women, and ive learned and grown so much not only as a cam model, but as a person and with my financial journey. I have met ladies from all over the world and its been great to have a sense of community and support for our cam life.
A few users you are chatting with in this thread right now are top models just like you, a few of which finished top in the contest last week in fact.
And I dont think people are "telling them to kill themselves" or threatening them as far as I know.
Also there quite a few models on here who are earning well over $150 or $200 an hour which would rank them pretty high on the site as well, but perhaps they dont share their earnings too much on the forum but add a lot to this great community.
Even outside of SM new members on SW posted i think it was $27,000 in month in camming rocks.. and I dont think people are threatening her life as far as I know.

Anyways my advice, would be to come to this group with an open heart, open mind , and positive out look .

big hugs.

Absolutely. There is a ton of support here. Most importantly, you are welcome here. All SWs are welcome here. We are so much stronger together than as an individual. That being said, please only share what you feel comfortable sharing. Displaying earnings, rankings, achievements, your stage name etc. are not required to make posts.

Just like BigBum said, there are models that are all over the earnings spectrum that participate frequently here. With you being an experienced model on SM, sharing your experiences and general sentiment would be openly accepted here.

anonamiss
04-04-2022, 12:12 PM
The SM discord is very confusing. I'll never forget when they said you cannot/should not use the word "tip." ie. tip vibe, tip me, if you like our show please tip throughout etc. They said, "The word "tip" is an inaccurate word to use when asking for GOLD." Literally the same 2 weeks they did a contest and said our bonus was a GIFT. The word "gift" means without doing anything - you just receive the amount and gifts aren't taxed or subject to a percentage then etc. However, of course, it was not a gift as there was a stipulation based on logged in hours and earnings. Of course they took their percentage out of the "gift" and it was included on your 1099.

The SM discord is just messy. It's so messy I stopped reading it. They say one thing to one model and another to another model for the same topic often as well.

The fact that we can't use the word "tip" is so annoying. I tried to update my profile once and they removed the words "tip" and "tipping" from my bio. They said I can use the word "give" instead, but like... "tip" can be a noun or a verb. If you write something like "Big tips make me squirm!" it doesn't work if it auto-replaces it to "Big gives...!" Or saying "highest giver gets XYZ" - it just sounds bad. Plus I'm pretty sure it's industry standard language at this point to call interactive toys "tip vibes."

I love SM but I don't understand why they have to be so difficult about such simple things sometimes.

ravenskyy
04-04-2022, 12:39 PM
Anyone else doing shows and not getting paid for them? I just got out of a show and I haven't been paid for it yet. It's been 10 minutes now. wtf!?

Genoveve
04-04-2022, 12:58 PM
^^^Been happening to me on and off for weeks, but it usually shows up when you go to your actual earnings page or the total on your main profile page. Is it there? Btw I wrote a while ago about how I had a show that lasted 50something seconds that I NEVER was paid for and I even had a screencap of the length of time they were in pvt for…. still haven’t gotten it.

gbjenna
04-04-2022, 01:00 PM
Anyone else doing shows and not getting paid for them? I just got out of a show and I haven't been paid for it yet. It's been 10 minutes now. wtf!?

Yes, happened to me the other day. Exclusive show and never got paid. I’ve emailed support about it.

ravenskyy
04-04-2022, 01:09 PM
^^^Been happening to me on and off for weeks, but it usually shows up when you go to your actual earnings page or the total on your main profile page. Is it there? Btw I wrote a while ago about how I had a show that lasted 50something seconds that I NEVER was paid for and I even had a screencap of the length of time they were in pvt for…. still haven’t gotten it.


Yes, happened to me the other day. Exclusive show and never got paid. I’ve emailed support about it.

This has been happening to me too and it usually shows up after a minute or 2. It's been 30 minutes now and nothing! Nothing showing on the customers end either. I'm pissed! It was like a 10 minute show! Why tf is this happening!?! This site takes waaaay too much money for these bullshit ass glitches.

I've emailed support. I can't believe this shit. Makes me want to log off for the day, since I might not get paid for anything else. SMFH.

Update- Just did a 12 minute exclusive and I was immediately paid for it. But still nothing from the other show. Freaking ridiculous.

Sugarsteepdoll
04-04-2022, 01:35 PM
This has been happening to me too and it usually shows up after a minute or 2. It's been 30 minutes now and nothing! Nothing showing on the customers end either. I'm pissed! It was like a 10 minute show! Why tf is this happening!?! This site takes waaaay too much money for these bullshit ass glitches.

I've emailed support. I can't believe this shit. Makes me want to log off for the day, since I might not get paid for anything else. SMFH.

Update- Just did a 12 minute exclusive and I was immediately paid for it. But still nothing from the other show. Freaking ridiculous.

This happened to me with an exclusive block. I made sure to screenshot as much as I could. The customer was never charged anything and of course I had to wait longer to get reimbursed because of a contest. VERY annoying !!!

anonamiss
04-04-2022, 01:58 PM
^^^Been happening to me on and off for weeks, but it usually shows up when you go to your actual earnings page or the total on your main profile page. Is it there?

this is how it's been for me. it still updates properly/on time on the main dashboard with the income total for the week, but there is sometimes a lag for it showing up on the daily earnings page. it's frustrating but i just keep an eye on it. it's never taken longer than a half hour or so to update everywhere.

whirlerz
04-04-2022, 03:00 PM
OMG, all that Sucks! ^

ravenskyy
04-04-2022, 08:41 PM
This happened to me with an exclusive block. I made sure to screenshot as much as I could. The customer was never charged anything and of course I had to wait longer to get reimbursed because of a contest. VERY annoying !!!

I emailed Liz and she's looking into it. I hope this gets resolved and quickly. The idea of giving a free show really makes me mad. Especially because it wasn't fun or comfortable physically. These men and their weird ass fetishes. Like literally, it was an ass fetish customer! Ugh. I'm so tired of it.