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ravenskyy
04-20-2022, 01:19 PM
Any dayshift girls switch to nights recently? I'm starting to think that I need to work nights because days haven't been kind to me lately. I'm starting to think that my placement is getting messed up. I was super busy for the past few weeks, then crickets since Friday.
bobsandvangene
04-20-2022, 02:06 PM
I feel like the site is being so glitchy today. Hardly any traffic and it's driving me mental.
whirlerz
04-20-2022, 02:12 PM
Any dayshift girls switch to nights recently? I'm starting to think that I need to work nights because days haven't been kind to me lately. I'm starting to think that my placement is getting messed up. I was super busy for the past few weeks, then crickets since Friday.
I work days, late nights early am.
So far been slow for me.
I think it the tax season, + Easter/Passover etc.
JustMilfnAround
04-20-2022, 02:45 PM
There is noooo way that this isn't a contest week. I'm seriously confused, where is everyone???
I've been thinking the same thing. Contest traffic and making 1/3 of my usual.....
I work days, late nights early am.
So far been slow for me.
I think it the tax season, + Easter/Passover etc.
i work day time 4pm till7pm and then evening night from 10pm to 4am...kind of ...more or less....same slow but same ... hopefully i am working with other websites! sometimes from 2am to 3am is more busy but ohhh not everyday. daytime was fab before! xx
Genoveve
04-20-2022, 03:29 PM
This is so interesting! So you are saying don't end the show but end the stream? How do you do that? Just close the browser during the private/exclusive?
Just hit the Stop Show button.
JustMilfnAround
04-20-2022, 03:45 PM
Annnnndddd contest. Fuck. :(
kiki399
04-20-2022, 04:00 PM
Any dayshift girls switch to nights recently? I'm starting to think that I need to work nights because days haven't been kind to me lately. I'm starting to think that my placement is getting messed up. I was super busy for the past few weeks, then crickets since Friday.
You've been on SM a while from your posts, do you ever notice it's the contests that F up everything, because from my experience I have. I was going on earlier, now I go on later days, like 11 am EST til 3 or 4 goes dead at 1 pm but that is my experience. I also am a splitcammer, because for years SM has so many glitches. Its either hot or cold, never steady at all. I think these dumbass contests ruin shit. I never do them, I refuse! But wondering whats your take on this?
kiki399
04-20-2022, 04:02 PM
Annnnndddd contest. Fuck. :(
BINGO!!!! every single time a contest comes rolling around, us regular cammers get our asses kicked with glitches, Thanks SM, an extra 25 or whatever wont make or break my day
Genoveve
04-20-2022, 06:39 PM
There is noooo way that this isn't a contest week. I'm seriously confused, where is everyone???
It has definitely felt like a contest day today, multiple times where traffic randomly completely died or disappeared.
Luci Fer
04-20-2022, 09:12 PM
Just wanted to throw this out there: since blocking guys out of pvt doesn't prevent them from leaving (bad) ratings, I think ending the show does. I've been testing it for months now, I have never seen 1 guy leave a rating when I ended the show by stopping the stream.
It doesn't work though in case the show stops because your connection was cut. I had nice pvt and was kicked out from my show because my internet dropped. The dude left 4 stars because he thought I left because he was boring. LMAO, he probably had low self esteem.
Dreamqueen
04-20-2022, 09:56 PM
I haven't been on all week.
Logged in today to see that someone tipped me a few sheckles.
$4.20 on 4/20
How timely. ;D
Almost makes me wish I smoked. Lol
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Redcandy
04-21-2022, 01:54 AM
It has definitely felt like a contest day today, multiple times where traffic randomly completely died or disappeared.
The same happening in my room since last week. Going 2-4mins with no one in room.
xoprincessremy
04-21-2022, 05:39 AM
Is there anyone still waiting for a check? It's thursday, I usually receive it on mondays
ravenskyy
04-21-2022, 08:02 AM
You've been on SM a while from your posts, do you ever notice it's the contests that F up everything, because from my experience I have. I was going on earlier, now I go on later days, like 11 am EST til 3 or 4 goes dead at 1 pm but that is my experience. I also am a splitcammer, because for years SM has so many glitches. Its either hot or cold, never steady at all. I think these dumbass contests ruin shit. I never do them, I refuse! But wondering whats your take on this?
I work those same hours and I've noticed that traffic drops immediately after lunch. Back in 2019, I worked the same shift and I would work until about 5pm. Traffic would be pretty steady until about 4pm. Now it declines around 1 or 2. I'm not sure what's going on.
Contest weeks have always been pretty bad for me. I've only had a handful that were good, but I've never placed in any of the contests. The week before is definitely glitchy, but normally traffic isn't affected for me. I haven't had many customers complain about glitches though. I've been experiencing issues with my camera randomly shutting off and my stream stopping but I'm not sure if that's on Streamates end or mine. The contests always bring a ton of girls online, most I don't recognize and never see after the contest week. That definitely adds to the increase of glitches. You would think that with all the money they make, SM would be able to handle this amount of girls streaming at one time. It would be nice if they would invest more in the website and less in advertising on sites that bring cheap, broke assholes.
I'm kind of worried about the traffic though. I normally average $50-$65 an hour, and the last few weeks have been that way, but this week has been a train wreck. I used to have one or two days that would be slow each week, but it's almost everyday now.
JustMilfnAround
04-21-2022, 09:38 AM
Any dayshift girls switch to nights recently? I'm starting to think that I need to work nights because days haven't been kind to me lately. I'm starting to think that my placement is getting messed up. I was super busy for the past few weeks, then crickets since Friday.
Same for me in AM. Time to move to afternoons/nights again until football starts back up... I'm a morning person so this sucks LOL
misspandora
04-21-2022, 10:00 AM
Just checked my earnings page, and there's no indication of what I am making per hour. Did they get rid of that? Or am I having such a bad day, they don't wanna rub it in that I'm not making a ton of money per hour today? lol
FloridaSunDoll
04-21-2022, 10:53 AM
Just checked my earnings page, and there's no indication of what I am making per hour. Did they get rid of that? Or am I having such a bad day, they don't wanna rub it in that I'm not making a ton of money per hour today? lol
the earnings page isn't working for me at all at the moment...hmmm
whirlerz
04-21-2022, 12:22 PM
Is there anyone still waiting for a check? It's thursday, I usually receive it on mondays
No, but maybe due to more postal workers taking an extra day off for the holiday?
Mine has previously been as late as Friday, w/holiday or weather.
Strawberryblonde
04-21-2022, 01:31 PM
Just checked my earnings page, and there's no indication of what I am making per hour. Did they get rid of that? Or am I having such a bad day, they don't wanna rub it in that I'm not making a ton of money per hour today? lol
I look in reports for this.
MelanieJ
04-21-2022, 08:14 PM
This is absolutely depressing. I averaged $15.72/hr, and only made $28.01 today. I only lasted 12 minutes shy of 2 hours. This is craziness, and I've NEVER seen it be this dead. I'm 21 days past due on my rent and stressing the hell out
Dreamqueen
04-21-2022, 10:41 PM
This is absolutely depressing. I averaged $15.72/hr, and only made $28.01 today. I only lasted 12 minutes shy of 2 hours. This is craziness, and I've NEVER seen it be this dead. I'm 21 days past due on my rent and stressing the hell out ��
This has been a pattern on Streamate for a long time ( just speaking for myself).
Sometimes I wish that I had recently started on this site, so I wouldn't know how sweet it used to be.
I've been on here for over 12 years. I get that sites change.
But, THIS much?
I always had a room full of guys talking, buying long shows, being appreciative.
Now it's mostly pushy dudes who are rude, broke, or buy short shows.
I've never sat in my room and waited for long periods of time until someone entered the chat.
Something is not right.
I cam on another site which reminds me of the way Streamate USED to be.
Polite guys over there who actually ENGAGE in small talk, tip, and do long shows.
It's NOT the economy.
roseforarose
04-22-2022, 03:24 AM
This has been a pattern on Streamate for a long time ( just speaking for myself).
Sometimes I wish that I had recently started on this site, so I wouldn't know how sweet it used to be.
I've been on here for over 12 years. I get that sites change.
But, THIS much?
I always had a room full of guys talking, buying long shows, being appreciative.
Now it's mostly pushy dudes who are rude, broke, or buy short shows.
I've never sat in my room and waited for long periods of time until someone entered the chat.
Something is not right.
I cam on another site which reminds me of the way Streamate USED to be.
Polite guys over there who actually ENGAGE in small talk, tip, and do long shows.
It's NOT the economy.
I'm definitely one of those people who doesn't know how it used to be lol! Kinda glad I don't but, it would've been nice to experience what everyone is talking about re: great earnings. This week is super slow for me but honestly not the worst contest week I've had this year so I'm trying not to stress. But the difference between a normal week and a contest week (which this one is basically, they just didn't wanna have 2 whole weeks in a row, ha) is still SUPER noticeable for me, even without the reference of how SM used to be.
What's the other site you're on?
MelanieJ
04-22-2022, 06:48 AM
I'd also love to know what other site she's on. I just hope it isn't MFC because I hate MFC's old ass platform, lol.
I was averaging $60/70 per hour until the last few months and now it's garbage. I only do femdom and a non nude model and have had days where I was making $90/hour! So it's definitely something going on with the site. Occasionally Chaturbate has pulled through and made up the difference I don't make on SM, but it's very unpredictable and usually a result of two or three guys consistently tipping.
Erika_Xstacy
04-22-2022, 11:54 AM
I use to have to wait hours to make a decent cut. days, hours, shit gold shows I had to work hard for all that.
Nowadays it is easier. some days are crap but overall I do really good. we all have bad days/weeks depending on what life throws on the outside. that is what fucks me up.
contest weeks are harder but lately been easier but i think its bc i dont think of them. contest are getting old like goldshows did, played out in my mind.
ifriends was like sm where models left ifreinds and came to sm for better money but a few models remained on ifriends until it completely shut down
we can't really compare sm clients from 10 years ago as customers had been given incentives to sign up like a 25 credit. sm also did fairly heavy marketing with the goldshows, TV advertisements etc
A customer told me he no longer gets alerts when models go live so theres that
the "little" things really help but i feel sm is leaving it up to affiliates and models to bring in and maintain customers
one80who
04-22-2022, 12:32 PM
Hey guys, after not being on Streamate since 2016 I decided to sign back up with me and myhusband.
I made a new couples account, but it didnt give me an option to upload his ID.
How can I fix this?
Erika_Xstacy
04-22-2022, 12:48 PM
^^contact liz
also all the models online now, competition is fierce.
we use to have 1 page MAX bbw models now its 3 pages. that's just the bbw section.
Erika_Xstacy
04-22-2022, 02:40 PM
im having ghost guest
Their name is not on the list but they are typing and tipping, so they are there lol
JustMilfnAround
04-22-2022, 02:42 PM
I am kicking my own ass right nw for not taking screenshots of the solutions you ladies put up for videos not uploading to media manager.
I have 58 videos and a while ago I was ready to start uploading vids, got one uploaded and then blew it off because I couldn't get anymore to upload. I'm trying again because I would love to have the extra money from vid sales on SM and guys are ASKING for me to get them posted....
If it is fresh in anyone's mind can someone link me to those posts or provide some guidance? It would be deeply appreciated! Using Chrome on a Macbook Air.
KittenGirl
04-22-2022, 02:47 PM
It breaks my heart to see my girls suffering like this. I'm one of the lucky ones I guess. I took most of this week off but I still managed so far to be around $600.
I get how you all feel about the freeloaders and rude people. That's why I cried and whined on here the other day. But I'm going to come from a place of honesty here...
Maybe it's not the customers
Maybe it's not the site
Maybe it's us
I've had a few clients say to me "I'd love to tip into your gold show, but I've spent far too much money on fake, repetitive shows for me to want it to be worth it."
I also had several others say they started to lose joy in coming to the site because the moment they enter the room, it takes them a while to see if they like the girl, but they literally get screamed at if they don't tip, then they get kicked.
I played as a customer once. And I'm not gonna say who but three different girls i went into, I didn't even get to type a hello and they were borderline harassing me to take them private.
Maybe a surplus of nasty, rude and entitled models scared off the good crowd
I get that it's our job and we can't have freeloaders, but maybe a lot of potentials left because maybe for THEM the vibe is pushy and unfriendly.
And it's definitely a chicken or the egg thing. Who's making who jaded first?
Are site glitches and lack of support making us models pissed and then it reflects to the customers? Is the quality of customers making us pissed therefor we're shoving off all the good ones?
I'm not trying to start a fight or anything. Just trying to see all sides.
I hope you girls have a better week for sure!
naomi_doll
04-22-2022, 02:59 PM
It breaks my heart to see my girls suffering like this. I'm one of the lucky ones I guess. I took most of this week off but I still managed so far to be around $600.
I get how you all feel about the freeloaders and rude people. That's why I cried and whined on here the other day. But I'm going to come from a place of honesty here...
Maybe it's not the customers
Maybe it's not the site
Maybe it's us
I've had a few clients say to me "I'd love to tip into your gold show, but I've spent far too much money on fake, repetitive shows for me to want it to be worth it."
I also had several others say they started to lose joy in coming to the site because the moment they enter the room, it takes them a while to see if they like the girl, but they literally get screamed at if they don't tip, then they get kicked.
I played as a customer once. And I'm not gonna say who but three different girls i went into, I didn't even get to type a hello and they were borderline harassing me to take them private.
Maybe a surplus of nasty, rude and entitled models scared off the good crowd
I get that it's our job and we can't have freeloaders, but maybe a lot of potentials left because maybe for THEM the vibe is pushy and unfriendly.
And it's definitely a chicken or the egg thing. Who's making who jaded first?
Are site glitches and lack of support making us models pissed and then it reflects to the customers? Is the quality of customers making us pissed therefor we're shoving off all the good ones?
I'm not trying to start a fight or anything. Just trying to see all sides.
I hope you girls have a better week for sure!
I wonder what they would prefer in a show then? I'm pretty guilty of doing similar private shows, especially if they don't tell me what they want. It is interesting to see another perspective though, thank you for this.
kamiliam
04-22-2022, 03:21 PM
keep in mind that some of the top models on the site are VERY direct in asking for shows. Ones who aren't looking to set up a hang out environment. If any models wants that, then yeah don't pounce on them ASAP.
AND personally I take stock in what only a handful of customers say at this point. Guys tell me how chill I am constantly and I am in fact not chill at all.
roseforarose
04-22-2022, 06:42 PM
I wonder what they would prefer in a show then? I'm pretty guilty of doing similar private shows, especially if they don't tell me what they want. It is interesting to see another perspective though, thank you for this.
I think if customers aren't communicative with you then there's nothing wrong with doing similar shows at all. You can't read minds!
I'd say about 95% of the shows I get the guys give a vague idea of what they want and we go with the flow, which results in most shows being similar. Realistically I think there's only so many ways/positions certain sexual acts can be done, you could ask 10 models to finger themselves and I'm sure 8 would do the same positions.
From a customer's perspective I can see how that could get boring but...perhaps I'm not empathetic enough to see the issue there lol! If they want a wild variety of shows they should say that clearly. If they've explained clearly and are getting scammed/the exact same thing then yeah I understand why they'd want less shows.
roseforarose
04-22-2022, 06:44 PM
I put 0 stock into non-customers telling their reasons for why they're logged into a cam site but can't possibly tip/do a show, honestly. I'm sure that makes me part of the issue on some level (perhaps they're not always lying), but that's just met with an 'mhmm, oh okay' on my end and politely ignoring them. If they're spending their time logged in, and have entered their card details, but are using that time to complain about other rooms then honestly they sound like a big old hassle.
That said, I greet and talk to everyone in my room and chat a bit before bringing up a show- so I don't actually get too many 'I get paid tomorrow/keep getting scammed/hate other models' guys.
I do think that different camsites have different vibes overall, but I don't focus on other rooms enough to consider how my personal room reflects on the rest of the site- and I'm not sure I should/would? It seems an easy way to overanalyse things really.
I think the contest weeks are placed where they are for a reason, and them being slow isn't because we're doing anything wrong. Traffic is probably just lower/worse during those times, and thus we're given the incentive to stay online. (Why traffic is worse is another question, but it's probably not because we're all grumpy in late-April :p)
Genoveve
04-22-2022, 08:27 PM
I've had a few clients say to me "I'd love to tip into your gold show, but I've spent far too much money on fake, repetitive shows for me to want it to be worth it."
I agree with a lot of what you said but this part is confusing me, when are guys saying this? I certainly hope it's not when they are camped out in your chatroom while you're trying to get a gold show going because it sounds like some typical freeloader BS. If you've spent too much money on services that you're not happy with then wouldn't you stop frequenting the establishment?
Maybe it's us
Tbh this is something I consider a lot. Well I mean, I think by default it is about us because of the nature of the business; we are salespeople selling a product (us), and just like how there is with all sales there's going to be a smaller percentage making the most money and larger percentages not making that much at all or just making enough to get by. But when I hear chicks talk about how 'X site was better years ago,' 'years ago they used to make so much money on X site and now it sucks'...etc. I wonder; since they have been on X site for YEARS/camming for YEARS, how do they look now compared to how they looked YEARS ago? How do they act now compared to how they acted YEARS ago? How do they feel now compared to how they felt YEARS ago? How is their hustle now compared to how it was YEARS ago? Their attitude? Their energy? Basically is your product just as good if not better than it was YEARS ago? (Btw this is not directed at anyone in particular or anyone who has recently posted about 'now vs. years ago,' it's something I've seen like 8 million times on this forum over the years)
LuckyCowgirl13
04-23-2022, 06:15 AM
Hello, I think the problem is all the clip sites people record and put up cam shows and onlyfan shows you can watch for free all over the web that is the problem if the Goverment can shut down pornhub and all off its bullshit clip sites I think camming would be more profitable like it use to be years ago so NO it is not us that's the problem Porn hub has a criminal and civil lawsuits that were just filed and approved Feb 2022 so once that hits the courts I hope it will be enough to shut them down it's ridiculous to go online and see your cam show streaming on some stupid tube site
LuckyCowgirl13
04-23-2022, 06:17 AM
I'm sorry if this is off topic but does anyone have a onlyfans? and truthfully what is your bring home pay after the cut? I feel onlyfans is a pyramid scheme the owner also owns myfreecams did you know that?
LuckyCowgirl13
04-23-2022, 06:22 AM
I think they would prefer Free shows lol
liquidsilk
04-23-2022, 07:27 AM
Onlyfans pays out 80%. If you don't have one alongside camming I think you are really missing out. Even on sites like SM where you can't advertise it at all just have a Twitter with a link. Anyone interested will find it without a problem. Record your videos, bash them through some rudimentary editing and upload them. Make unique custom content if you want.
For low maintenance pages just put them up and charge high for subscription. If you have time on your hands run lower price and put short clips and upsell the videos as PPV through messages.
Do live shows there instead of exclusives on SM if people ask. At 80% you can literally charge half price and still take home more than a standard customer on SM (obviously dont do this, charge as high as you can not as low as you can). Their live stream service is good and works well.
Dont mention it at all on SM. OF is mainstream enough that everyone just assumes you are on there.
As for the traffic conversations? I can list a dozen models who were regular top 10/20 contest placers without even having to think about it who have left SM to full time on OF. There are many more I'd imagine.
Even me personally, putting in zero effort beyond the bare minimum required (uploading a couple videos a week) and taking tips for 1:1 cam sessions, there are plenty of customers who just dont really bother with live cam anymore when they can access models on OF. Some prefer it because it's more like direct messaging rather than waiting for us to log on. When one exclusive show costs the same as 5 or more subscriptions and shows are cheaper there a bunch of customers prefer it.
LuckyCowgirl13
04-23-2022, 07:47 AM
Onlyfans pays out 80%. If you don't have one alongside camming I think you are really missing out. Even on sites like SM where you can't advertise it at all just have a Twitter with a link. Anyone interested will find it without a problem. Record your videos, bash them through some rudimentary editing and upload them. Make unique custom content if you want.
For low maintenance pages just put them up and charge high for subscription. If you have time on your hands run lower price and put short clips and upsell the videos as PPV through messages.
Do live shows there instead of exclusives on SM if people ask. At 80% you can literally charge half price and still take home more than a standard customer on SM (obviously dont do this, charge as high as you can not as low as you can). Their live stream service is good and works well.
Dont mention it at all on SM. OF is mainstream enough that everyone just assumes you are on there.
As for the traffic conversations? I can list a dozen models who were regular top 10/20 contest placers without even having to think about it who have left SM to full time on OF. There are many more I'd imagine.
Even me personally, putting in zero effort beyond the bare minimum required (uploading a couple videos a week) and taking tips for 1:1 cam sessions, there are plenty of customers who just dont really bother with live cam anymore when they can access models on OF. Some prefer it because it's more like direct messaging rather than waiting for us to log on. When one exclusive show costs the same as 5 or more subscriptions and shows are cheaper there a bunch of customers prefer it.
Thank you! my take home pay from SM seems to be 8 hours of work for 100-200 a week do you think you can at least make 200 a wk on onlyfans? idk if I wanna take the plunge I'm a very private person and I'm already upset that I found 2 cam shows from 5 years ago all over tube sites I only cam on SM I thought they take such a high cut so you would be protected from stolen video I guess not ugh
LuckyCowgirl13
04-23-2022, 07:52 AM
I raised my prices on SM for my mental health only a dollar more but even my reg are not willing to pay they just sit in free chat stare at me say nothing I am making way less and working more
liquidsilk
04-23-2022, 08:02 AM
Message liz to get the videos taken down. If she cant get them removed there is a slim chance anyone else could tbh.
roseforarose
04-23-2022, 08:24 AM
Can anyone figure out why this room topic wouldn't be allowed?
"Sexy Saturday! Feeling horny today, wanna turn me on?"
Cannot for the life of me figure out what word there is banned??
MissAdriana
04-23-2022, 09:02 AM
^ All I can think of is change 'wanna' to want to? Does wanna means osmething bad in another language ?? LOL I would love to know the answer to tha t
SapphireXO
04-23-2022, 09:04 AM
Onlyfans pays out 80%. If you don't have one alongside camming I think you are really missing out. Even on sites like SM where you can't advertise it at all just have a Twitter with a link. Anyone interested will find it without a problem. Record your videos, bash them through some rudimentary editing and upload them. Make unique custom content if you want.
For low maintenance pages just put them up and charge high for subscription. If you have time on your hands run lower price and put short clips and upsell the videos as PPV through messages.
Do live shows there instead of exclusives on SM if people ask. At 80% you can literally charge half price and still take home more than a standard customer on SM (obviously dont do this, charge as high as you can not as low as you can). Their live stream service is good and works well.
Dont mention it at all on SM. OF is mainstream enough that everyone just assumes you are on there.
As for the traffic conversations? I can list a dozen models who were regular top 10/20 contest placers without even having to think about it who have left SM to full time on OF. There are many more I'd imagine.
Even me personally, putting in zero effort beyond the bare minimum required (uploading a couple videos a week) and taking tips for 1:1 cam sessions, there are plenty of customers who just dont really bother with live cam anymore when they can access models on OF. Some prefer it because it's more like direct messaging rather than waiting for us to log on. When one exclusive show costs the same as 5 or more subscriptions and shows are cheaper there a bunch of customers prefer it.
OnlyFans has never worked for me. I wish it did because I have almost 1000 posts of 50% videos and 40% clips. I post 6 days a week and I charge $9.99/mo. Even when I had my monthly rate at $5.99/mo it was about the same. I never have more than 20 paying members. Even giving out a bonus worth more than the subscription amount per month to my re-bill customers. I also got hit with chargebacks in 2021 on OF. They don't cover them even with proof of services rendered. Once that happened, I stopped taking payment for anything on OF. I don't know why I don't do well on there because I'm top 2% on ManyVids, top 5% on Niteflirt, and top 10% on Streamate. My social media presence is very minimal so that probably has something to do with it...
Seductive_Brit
04-23-2022, 09:10 AM
Hey ladies, question. So today I had someone take me exclusive and wanted me to watch their wife suck them, I declined because I wasn't sure if this was allowed? Surely another person coming in to their screen isn't in fact age verified the same way they are? Any advice on this?
KittenGirl
04-23-2022, 09:24 AM
keep in mind that some of the top models on the site are VERY direct in asking for shows. Ones who aren't looking to set up a hang out environment. If any models wants that, then yeah don't pounce on them ASAP.
AND personally I take stock in what only a handful of customers say at this point. Guys tell me how chill I am constantly and I am in fact not chill at all.
haha! Maybe you're chill compared to what they've seen.
KittenGirl
04-23-2022, 09:29 AM
Oh I 100% agree about doing similar shows. There are some customers that also just like what they like. But my whole "similar shows" thing was mostly angled at the gold show thing. It's almost like paying to see a movie in theatres you've seen a hundred times. Unless you REALLY like that movie, you're probably not going to be inclined to see it again and move on to look at something else. I personally try to change up my gold shows as often as possible. If not the show itself, then the angle.
For example, one day I may do a regular fingering show laying on my back all opened up, but then next time I may try to put the camera closer to me and sitting up, leaning back so it's a closeup but they can still sort of see my face.
But yeah, the customers not saying what they want then I totally agree. Just start doing whatever it is you want because it's true, you can't read minds! I DO know though from asking, some men are just shy and they go into a show expecting a show to already be laid out for them so their hands are busy on their dicks lol!
whirlerz
04-23-2022, 09:35 AM
Oh I 100% agree about doing similar shows. There are some customers that also just like what they like. But my whole "similar shows" thing was mostly angled at the gold show thing. It's almost like paying to see a movie in theatres you've seen a hundred times. Unless you REALLY like that movie, you're probably not going to be inclined to see it again and move on to look at something else. I personally try to change up my gold shows as often as possible. If not the show itself, then the angle.
For example, one day I may do a regular fingering show laying on my back all opened up, but then next time I may try to put the camera closer to me and sitting up, leaning back so it's a closeup but they can still sort of see my face.
But yeah, the customers not saying what they want then I totally agree. Just start doing whatever it is you want because it's true, you can't read minds! I DO know though from asking, some men are just shy and they go into a show expecting a show to already be laid out for them so their hands are busy on their dicks lol!
This^!
KittenGirl
04-23-2022, 09:36 AM
I agree with a lot of what you said but this part is confusing me, when are guys saying this? I certainly hope it's not when they are camped out in your chatroom while you're trying to get a gold show going because it sounds like some typical freeloader BS. If you've spent too much money on services that you're not happy with then wouldn't you stop frequenting the establishment?
Tbh this is something I consider a lot. Well I mean, I think by default it is about us because of the nature of the business; we are salespeople selling a product (us), and just like how there is with all sales there's going to be a smaller percentage making the most money and larger percentages not making that much at all or just making enough to get by. But when I hear chicks talk about how 'X site was better years ago,' 'years ago they used to make so much money on X site and now it sucks'...etc. I wonder; since they have been on X site for YEARS/camming for YEARS, how do they look now compared to how they looked YEARS ago? How do they act now compared to how they acted YEARS ago? How do they feel now compared to how they felt YEARS ago? How is their hustle now compared to how it was YEARS ago? Their attitude? Their energy? Basically is your product just as good if not better than it was YEARS ago? (Btw this is not directed at anyone in particular or anyone who has recently posted about 'now vs. years ago,' it's something I've seen like 8 million times on this forum over the years)
No, thankfully it's not. 100% of the time it's men waiting for the gold show to end so they can take me private and they always do. A lot of men I see don't like gold shows anymore. It's been nice to actually get customer feedback on that because I've just about given up on goldshows. Even offering videos I can't get anyone to tip but I'll get like 70 people in my room and like 3 tips. They just truly bring out the freeloaders.
WOOOOWWW this was an INSANE point. A great one, for sure. I know when I started back when I was 24, I was a lot younger and I did more things that I don't do now. I don't do anal, bbc (not because I'm racist my body literally can't take a bbc dildo inside anywhere), femdom, joi, spit and most roleplays now. When I was younger I was desperate and took anything, I also was a lot thinner and had more energy to do the "hard dildo ride" shows but I'm too fat and old for that shit now, lol! I'm not nearly as desperate now, I've got a lot more respect for myself and I turn more people away than I use to.