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wonderland1
05-01-2022, 02:29 AM
I personally did 63 hours this week which I would never ever do in a million years if it wasn’t for contest
. Yes it was slow periodically but $/hour is still decent if you add up the prize
Plus they are probably doing updates that’s why it’s glitchy and guys are getting kicked out if it was no contest most would probably just log off

63 hours-dang girl, you are a warrior! I just started on SM site 5 months ago. I've done pretty well in the contests, but this past week, I had to work longer and harder, than the previous ones to reach approximately the same amount of money as I did in other contests. I did a little over 42 hours and made the top 100. (Normally, I work 20-30 hours per week on SM-non contest times). But I am not gonna lie, I am burnt the fuck out from it! Contests do offer me an opportunity to make a good chunk of change each month. I'm not sure I will engage in all of them, it will be based on my energy levels, prizes offered, and how bad I need the extra money. I will say, I think I enjoy the ones where they take your best 3 days and calculate it that way- that feels a lot less strenuous to me.

Lolaki
05-01-2022, 03:29 AM
I am literally going 15-20 minutes at a time with no one in my room at all more less a show. I have had one guy talk in a hour & all he said was "hey" & then left.

Same here. I wrote a message to an SM rep and the answer was it is my fault because not only my traffic looks fine (according to them), but it is fine although I didn't work lots of hours lately. Meanwhile, I might had one member every ten min or so in my room and the awesome amount of $14 after almost 7 hours online!

Angela888
05-01-2022, 04:00 AM
Been online for 4 hours, all of a sudden it says connection lost and now I can't get back on, just has the circular thing going around.....anyone else?

Miss_ShaSha
05-01-2022, 04:05 AM
^^Same. It disconnected me twice and it wasn't me. Then all of the sudden it's loading endlessly after a restart of laptop.


UPDATE:

Back in, but not sure for how long.

UPDATE:

Disconnected again. Hmmmm...

Angela888
05-01-2022, 04:23 AM
Managed to get back in disconnected through an exclusive now cannot re-connect

Luckygoldfish
05-01-2022, 04:49 AM
How about every month they do a week where everyone gets 65% of the commision Hah!

They do awesome bonus weeks , these are my favourite. However a lot of girls enjoy competition as well . It brings something different to repetitive routine work we are doing .

Luckygoldfish
05-01-2022, 04:50 AM
so proud of you! i love what a bad ass you are and how quickly you advance to the top . its like.. you log on later than others and BOOM there you are at the top! its amazing! congrats on your hard work!

Thank you , darling x

Luckygoldfish
05-01-2022, 04:56 AM
Yea, the TOP models are benefiting. They make up a small percentage of all the models on the site. 300 models out of how many?

Most of the girls that I see in the top 300 spots are girls that I never see online any other time, so its pretty unfair to the girls that work almost every day for this site. During the contest weeks, most of the models make far less than they normally would on non contest weeks. The money benefits SM regardless, but it definitely doesn't benefit the majority of the models to keep doing these monthly contests. SM doesn't do they contests for us, they do it for themselves lol so yes, it is true that the contests hurt most of the models.

And yea, they should give away a lot of prize money, they take 65%+ from us! Lol
Yes but these 300 models probably holding 90% of all revenue. It’s fair if it works for the website financially and it certainly does. And it motivates others . It’s like every business those who are working hard and efficient get rewarded

liquidsilk
05-01-2022, 05:05 AM
It might seem like always the same models but it isn't. I've been top 5,top 10 etc but this one? Not even top 1000. I didn't compete at all I only worked a few hours. Others I've worked a bit harder and just sat about in 50 or 200 place it really depends on how much I want to work. On Twitter and forums there are always models excited to have placed for the first time or their highest rank.

Luckygoldfish
05-01-2022, 05:16 AM
It might seem like always the same models but it isn't. I've been top 5,top 10 etc but this one? Not even top 1000. I didn't compete at all I only worked a few hours. Others I've worked a bit harder and just sat about in 50 or 200 place it really depends on how much I want to work. On Twitter and forums there are always models excited to have placed for the first time or their highest rank.

They are not the same correct
Just some familiar faces but plenty new once as well
Everyone has a chance

liquidsilk
05-01-2022, 05:34 AM
I'd recommend starting on the 24 hr contests to rank if it's for your first time. Be ready with video deals to help your turnover, an empty diary, coffee, water and snacks.
Interact the whole time and hope for some good luck!

ravenskyy
05-01-2022, 06:33 AM
And it motivates others . It’s like every business those who are working hard and efficient get rewarded

Not everyone has the ability to put in 63 hours in a week, and they shouldn't be punished for it. Everyone has a chance, sure, but some of us are just trying to make our normal amount and pay our damn bills. Anything extra is great, but it's not extra or a "prize" if you had to work twice as hard for it and it amounts to the same money you make on a normal week lol

I don't know why you felt the need to argue contests with me lol any situation where I have to work twice as hard to make the same amount of money is freaking bullshit. You enjoy the contests, that's nice for you. That's not the case for everyone, so instead of arguing about why the contests are good or not, just live your life. I'm really tired of people trying to invalidate opinions and experiences on here. Damn, let a bitch post her thoughts in peace. Lol

naomi_doll
05-01-2022, 06:46 AM
I'd recommend starting on the 24 hr contests to rank if it's for your first time. Be ready with video deals to help your turnover, an empty diary, coffee, water and snacks.
Interact the whole time and hope for some good luck!

Are you selling the video bundles for gold in free chat, or as a gift for joining a gold show? Both? What is the empty diary for?

Strawberryblonde
05-01-2022, 06:52 AM
Are you selling the video bundles for gold in free chat, or as a gift for joining a gold show? Both? What is the empty diary for?
Empty diary means straight camming hours ie no other commitments, get on, stream, STFO. The one, two day, ten hours across 2 bonus days work well for me gives me a day/2-days to focus on.

liquidsilk
05-01-2022, 07:03 AM
I usually just sell a pack of videos for a discount either in countdowns to push shows through or just in free chat for large tips.

Yeah empty diary means just doing nothing but cam or recovering from cam, whatever that means for you.

naomi_doll
05-01-2022, 07:21 AM
Ah, a clear schedule! Sorry, I've only heard of diaries as journals. lol But thank you for the advice!

MissAdriana
05-01-2022, 07:55 AM
Lot of discconects today. I am going to be easier on the banhammer

Strawberryblonde
05-01-2022, 08:02 AM
Disconnected a lot today, had a couple of privates in the hour I streamed - now editing and uploading photos before I have to head off.

Angela888
05-01-2022, 08:42 AM
I had 3 disconnections during shows, but if a nightmare but managed to do 7 hours, would have been more if it wasn’t for the issues btw customers also having issues logging onto the site but traffic was steady so can’t complain xx

Angela888
05-01-2022, 08:43 AM
omg for ONCE i was in the top 30 then the top 50 . i was finally on my way.. and then i got my period. game over. i was still able to get 200s worked total 16hrs.
i agree compared to other contests and weeks i felt there was less money to be made on the site overall.

Amazing hun , you must be very chuffed! Just goes to show hard work and the right attitude always pays off! Xx

MelanieJ
05-01-2022, 09:25 AM
Lots of issues on Streamate today. Slow loading rooms, gold show info not showing in gold show rooms, being disconnected from rooms, front page blank and still not loading after 20 seconds of waiting ��

whirlerz
05-01-2022, 09:28 AM
Damn, this's bc of contest or what?! ^
Terrible!

Luckygoldfish
05-01-2022, 09:49 AM
Not everyone has the ability to put in 63 hours in a week, and they shouldn't be punished for it. Everyone has a chance, sure, but some of us are just trying to make our normal amount and pay our damn bills. Anything extra is great, but it's not extra or a "prize" if you had to work twice as hard for it and it amounts to the same money you make on a normal week lol

I don't know why you felt the need to argue contests with me lol any situation where I have to work twice as hard to make the same amount of money is freaking bullshit. You enjoy the contests, that's nice for you. That's not the case for everyone, so instead of arguing about why the contests are good or not, just live your life. I'm really tired of people trying to invalidate opinions and experiences on here. Damn, let a bitch post her thoughts in peace. Lol
You stated an opinion so I stated an opinion that’s what forum
for isn’t it? You said it’s not worth and not fair to do contest I disagreed and explain why. If you don’t agree it’s ok . You don’t have to put 63 hours to place in contest there are many others including on forum who enjoy contest week too and placed in contests

Obviously one of the reason “middle earning models” doing worse because lots of top models are on many hours so that’s why you said “you suffer”. Well tough it’s life . All of us just want to come and bank right away with lower competition but that’s not the case so it is what it is. There is a choice not to stream during contest week if it’s that bad and spread these hours over other weeks. SM think of their revenue as they should as we all would do if we ran our business

waogtrain
05-01-2022, 10:47 AM
Just got kicked out of a gold show and can't reconnect. Anyone else?

JustMilfnAround
05-01-2022, 11:09 AM
Holy fucking mess of disconnects today - WOW!

ETA: I just accepted an exclusive show - it booted him and kept me in free like if I had declined the show.....

ETA: Just got booted out of exclusive and disconnected now cannot reconnect.... GRRRRR

liquidsilk
05-01-2022, 11:16 AM
Every time I disconnected and reconnected and complained to free chat...my OF notification pings me a new subscriber. Its not what I was going for but I'll take it.

NevaK
05-01-2022, 11:52 AM
You are speaking the truth! Like I said before, these contest are nothing but guaranteed bonuses for a selected group. No, they may not place at the same number every time but they are definitely placed within a certain range. I also believe that people with the " new model" status automatically get placed high in the contest as well without any effort.

Luckygoldfish
05-01-2022, 12:22 PM
63 hours-dang girl, you are a warrior! I just started on SM site 5 months ago. I've done pretty well in the contests, but this past week, I had to work longer and harder, than the previous ones to reach approximately the same amount of money as I did in other contests. I did a little over 42 hours and made the top 100. (Normally, I work 20-30 hours per week on SM-non contest times). But I am not gonna lie, I am burnt the fuck out from it! Contests do offer me an opportunity to make a good chunk of change each month. I'm not sure I will engage in all of them, it will be based on my energy levels, prizes offered, and how bad I need the extra money. I will say, I think I enjoy the ones where they take your best 3 days and calculate it that way- that feels a lot less strenuous to me.
Congratulation on your win top 100
Well done
Yes it’s hard, tiredness will pass but money will remain with you (at least for awhile lol)

Luckygoldfish
05-01-2022, 12:26 PM
without any effort.

so what’s the problem ? register new account and automatically place high without any effort :)

VVV
05-01-2022, 12:37 PM
so i can not log in, get disconnected omg 3 times already. are you actually having issue?

kamiliam
05-01-2022, 12:46 PM
You are speaking the truth! Like I said before, these contest are nothing but guaranteed bonuses for a selected group. No, they may not place at the same number every time but they are definitely placed within a certain range. I also believe that people with the " new model" status automatically get placed high in the contest as well without any effort.

is it really shocking that the vast majority of our customer base is constantly on the hunt for new pussy?

VVV
05-01-2022, 12:47 PM
so i can not log in, get disconnected omg 3 times already. are you actually having issue?

changed browser. i am on

uhmmm

wonderland1
05-01-2022, 01:41 PM
I have been working on a niche/fetish website nearly every night for the past year before I joined SM. When the new model novelty wore off, obviously, my privates slowed somewhat, although I have regulars now. I reached out to the website owner and asked him if traffic had slowed there. He said "no" but suggested that I may want to stream less frequently to “make them miss me” because the mentality of the users is “oh, she is always online and will always be there so let me try this other girl tonight, instead.”

Last week, I devoted all my time to SM ( I do not split-cam) and logged back into my other niche site last night for a few hours. I had tons of guys ask where I had been, they missed me, blah blah blah, and actually had more privates and made more money in one night than I had over there in a long time last night.

So, my question is what do you seasoned ladies think of this approach on SM? Do you think streaming less frequently can help and make our camming experience less tiresome and more efficient? Perhaps, this is the strategy of the top models who come out during contest time? I don’t know, I’m still learning how all this works but dont want to shoot myself in the foot. Thoughts?

liquidsilk
05-01-2022, 02:10 PM
Boleyn models Katy posted an analysis of this once. The general idea is that there is a point of diminished hourly returns after being online for more than a certain number of hours a week. I think it was around 20

fetishqueen
05-01-2022, 02:32 PM
Boleyn models Katy posted an analysis of this once. The general idea is that there is a point of diminished hourly returns after being online for more than a certain number of hours a week. I think it was around 20

Not for Lucky, she did 63!

Isn't the concept of working less for more money just appealing to those who want an easy ride? In any business you have to work hard to earn well. Even when you work hard, money isn't guaranteed. The success comes to those who carry on despite the ups and downs, not those who give up or make excuses at the first hurdle. Simple law of attraction.

I'm not saying those here are wanting an easy life, but if any are then you can't expect that in any industry. It may well be that guys get bored easily and go elsewhere. But they are not moving in the same direction, are they? We may lose customers who tire of us, but surely that means we also gain customers who were originally seeing other ladies. I also get guys who were previously regs who come in and say they haven't seen me in AGES! Mate, I work 5 days a week, it's you that wasn't here! I'm not sure the guys even remember us five minutes after they cum most of the time.

I think there will always be strategies that work for success, some that don't. What matters is what works for you and it takes time and effort to find that out. I'm sure the girls at the top didn't just turn on their cam one day and look sexy. I've been on the site 18 months now and always struggled but looked at my own behaviour, adapted it and I placed in this contest in the top 400, first time placing ever and I was thrilled. I don't have a 'strategy', I just keep trying. Sometime I'd like to be top ten! :)

kamiliam
05-01-2022, 02:39 PM
I always try to work the least amount of hours for the most money

fetishqueen
05-01-2022, 02:46 PM
I always try to work the least amount of hours for the most money

I agree, I work fewer hours than I used to and I try to work out what works best within that time and make more than I used to. It all about making the most of the time you work. I was talking about working less in general but expecting more handed on a plate.

liquidsilk
05-01-2022, 02:47 PM
Diminished hourly returns doesn't mean you just log off if you want more money. The question was about camming efficiently. Everyone would in theory make more money if they worked 60 hrs + a week, but for most people it isn't possible to sustain for repeated weeks and the hourly rate will usually be lower than on a week where you work 20 hours at peak time only.

fetishqueen
05-01-2022, 02:56 PM
Diminished hourly returns doesn't mean you just log off if you want more money. The question was about camming efficiently. Everyone would in theory make more money if they worked 60 hrs + a week, but for most people it isn't possible to sustain for repeated weeks and the hourly rate will usually be lower than on a week where you work 20 hours at peak time only.

Sure, I get that. I couldn't do those kind of hours either. I have the Law of Diminished patience, I can do 30 hours a week with a smile then it drops off considerably!

liquidsilk
05-01-2022, 03:02 PM
Every time I have placed top 10 I've taken a week off and crept my hours up in the 2nd week after. Working it out I could have just worked as normal over the 3 weeks for about the same money but then I'd have none of the leaderboard screenshots in my achievement folder :)

kamiliam
05-01-2022, 03:03 PM
I agree, I work fewer hours than I used to and I try to work out what works best within that time and make more than I used to. It all about making the most of the time you work. I was talking about working less in general but expecting more handed on a plate.

true and I acknowledge how hard working even 40 plus hours a week camming is. I know I won't be able to do it and therefore know I will never get top 10 or 20 in a weeklong contest. There are and have been plenty of models who always work 60 plus hours a week and due to circumstances beyond their control do not see the same rewards. Both types of performers are valid.

Every contest I see rumblings from those who give their all that they really need to work times other then contests. I work 20-25 hours most non contest weeks and push for 30-38 when there is one. My monthly income is 5 digits consistently on this workload. I could possible make a lot more if I took time off before and after but I would be a mess. It is higher risk to put all your cards on contests but obviously it works out for many ladies. I just don't think the "correct" answer is that we should all just work long hours do to an increasing competitive market. happy may day everyone.

wonderland1
05-01-2022, 03:07 PM
I agree, I work fewer hours than I used to and I try to work out what works best within that time and make more than I used to. It all about making the most of the time you work. I was talking about working less in general but expecting more handed on a plate.

To be clear- I wasn't suggesting that, at all. I had a 35 year vanilla career, am a workaholic, have extremely strong work ethic in all aspects of life, and have never taken the easy route in life, nothing has been handed over. I just started camming last year. I'm 56. I dont wanna burn myself out and obviously want to make the most amount of money in the shortest amount of time. I mean, who wouldn't??? I dont think suggesting that makes it seem like I am trying to take the easy street. And that was my point-I was just asking if models had tried different strategies and what might have worked best for them based on their long camming careers. I certainly do not have the goal of being a "top model". I just want to earn a comfortable income working for myself from home, as long as possible while maintaining my mental, physical and spiritual health..

liquidsilk-I can certainly notice the diminishing returns if you stay on too long.

fetishqueen
05-01-2022, 03:11 PM
true and I acknowledge how hard working even 40 plus hours a week camming is. I know I won't be able to do it and therefore know I will never get top 10 or 20 in a weeklong contest. There are and have been plenty of models who always work 60 plus hours a week and due to circumstances beyond their control do not see the same rewards. Both types of performers are valid.

Every contest I see rumblings from those who give their all that they really need to work times other then contests. I work 20-25 hours most non contest weeks and push for 30-38 when there is one. My monthly income is 5 digits consistently on this workload. I could possible make a lot more if I took time off before and after but I would be a mess. It is higher risk to put all your cards on contests but obviously it works out for many ladies. I just don't think the "correct" answer is that we should all just work long hours do to an increasing competitive market. happy may day everyone.

Nor do I although I don't think you were quoting me. We all have to do what works for us, whether it's working more or doing things differently. 5 digits a month is awesome btw :)

JessRyan
05-01-2022, 03:15 PM
You could be the only camgirl in the world, on the only camsite in the world, with the sexiest body in the world, with thousands of guys available to you. If THEY (the guys) don't like you, THEY won't play with you. It has nothing to do with contests, or traffic. And has everything to do with CHEMISTRY and having a good base of regulars who choose YOU over someone else.
The girls who regularly make the $$ & do well in the contests, have the base/regulars who are devoted to THEM.
Camming and making $$ isn't rocket science, but it is CHEMISTRY. As Dr Phil says, "you either get it, or you don't" or you just complain and blame. (this is just my opinion due to experience in adult entertainment)

fetishqueen
05-01-2022, 03:18 PM
To be clear- I wasn't suggesting that, at all. I had a 35 year vanilla career, am a workaholic, have extremely strong work ethic in all aspects of life, and have never taken the easy route in life, nothing has been handed over. I just started camming last year. I'm 56. I dont wanna burn myself out and obviously want to make the most amount of money in the shortest amount of time. I mean, who wouldn't??? I dont think suggesting that makes it seem like I am trying to take the easy street. And that was my point-I was just asking if models had tried different strategies and what might have worked best for them based on their long camming careers. I certainly do not have the goal of being a "top model". I just want to earn a comfortable income working for myself from home, as long as possible while maintaining my mental, physical and spiritual health..

liquidsilk-I can certainly notice the diminishing returns if you stay on too long.

I wasn't referring to you or anyone in particular! We all work hard. It was a general observation, not related to camming or anyone, sorry if you thought that.

Honestly, I don't want to offend anyone. it wasn't my intention. All I wanted to say was that I'd been trying to do better myself for a long time and feel like I'm finally improving and I'm proud of that. I'm late 40's myself and find it tough but a LOT of trial and error and help from here has kept me going. This isn't an easy career and I never suggested that anyone here thought it was.

fetishqueen
05-01-2022, 03:21 PM
You could be the only camgirl in the world, on the only camsite in the world, with the sexiest body in the world, with thousands of guys available to you. If THEY (the guys) don't like you, THEY won't play with you. It has nothing to do with contests, or traffic. And has everything to do with CHEMISTRY and having a good base of regulars who choose YOU over someone else.
The girls who regularly make the $$ & do well in the contests, have the base/regulars who are devoted to THEM.
Camming and making $$ isn't rocket science, but it is CHEMISTRY. As Dr Phil says, "you either get it, or you don't" or you just complain and blame. (this is just my opinion due to experience in adult entertainment)

Totally! It reminds me of a quote from Miranda in Sex and the City, something like - 'Sexy is what I TRY to get them to see me as after I win them over with my amazing personality'!

Luckygoldfish
05-01-2022, 03:32 PM
60+ hours a week it’s extraordinary , I don’t do 60 hours every week it’s only once in few months I make time especially for long contest otherwise I hardly stream during normal weeks . 10-15 hours max.(often 0 lol) However I agree with the girl who said the best way is to stream consistently (20-30 hours a week) and I believe SM prioritise these models as well . I believe they promote models which stream consistently and yes more new people would notice you as well.
I have noticed however you get boost of traffic after long absence but that lasts only couple shifts . I had my best traffic when I worked 120+ hours without long gaps (last year) but since then I was struggling to find motivation to stream during non-contest weeks
if regulars get bored you can always find a way to surprise them with new “look” videos , ideas for show, stories ,interactive toys and ect . It really helps

kamiliam
05-01-2022, 03:33 PM
Nor do I although I don't think you were quoting me. We all have to do what works for us, whether it's working more or doing things differently. 5 digits a month is awesome btw :)

I think you and I are mostly on the same page. The one thing I was trying to draw attention to is that working those hours alone doesn't guarantee success, models in shitty studios have been doing insane hours since SM launched. Lots of other things like luck, natural skills and privilege(look/skin color/nationality/access to help and capital) play a large part too. Acknowledging that shouldn't invalidate people's success, but some people take it that way or it is weaponized to diminish the accomplishments of others. I'm just very anti hustle culture and wanted to support the benefits of the the planed easy way if one is privileged enough to do so

Luckygoldfish
05-01-2022, 03:40 PM
Have you seen how many girls are doing sleep shows!? I counted 14 on a first page the other day lol I thought it’s total BS as u drop $/hour but if they are doing it that means it’s working ?
I personally would never ever be able to do it I can’t even relax my posture during camming or face leave alone place myself on a bed with bunch of eyes watching lol

bigbum
05-01-2022, 06:34 PM
I always try to work the least amount of hours for the most money

yep me too. ive never worked over 25 hours in a week camming. for me its that i just physically cant do it. or i burn out and look like a rag lol