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bigbum
05-20-2022, 12:52 PM
Did people not get paid today??? Like wtf!?!? lol It's Friday!!! Where's the money????

oh god…. fridays are never good for me lol. i will manifest a success. ironically i manifest big tips and i get big tips but no one for the life of me will go exclusive haha. shall i start manifesting exclusives ? might need to .
good luck tonight girlie

ravenskyy
05-20-2022, 12:58 PM
Are you talking a check?
If so, mine was a day late, due to my local post office the clerk told me my pkg was also late, (even tho I got a delivered notice).

Good luck either way!

I meant the customers. There are like noooo spenders. Then my room died at 3pm. Fuuuuck lol

fetishqueen
05-20-2022, 02:26 PM
Trust and believe back in 2008-2012 - I went clubbing and drank like money wasn't a thang. I was definitely in poverty too. Anything to ease the pain. Let's hope we dull the "pain" for our fans/customers/investors/clients too.

I'm not sure any industry is recession-proof, but there is some evidence I saw a while back that says people often spend MORE money on non-essential stuff when times are tougher. Sales of stuff like alcohol and entertainment things go up when the sensible opinion would state people cut back on non-essentials because they can't afford them The truth is that often they spend more on the things that cheer them up, even if they shouldn't or can't afford to. I know, I've done it. Of course there are lots too who do cut back because they don't have a choice. There are people on both sides.

Assuming these two scenarios are both true to an extent, they kind of cancel each other out. A customer said to me today that he bet my business shot up during the pandemic. They truth is it kind of remained the same although I can't compare to if the pandemic didn't happen. There will always be people who cut back at difficult times, and others who indulge more to make them feel better. Along with those who don't change their behaviour at all.

Business will always be up and down. All we can do is do the best for ourselves and give the customers the best orgasm we can! ;D

VVV
05-20-2022, 02:45 PM
adultwork stopping paxum payment ... not sure why tho. hopefully SM not.

roseforarose
05-20-2022, 03:12 PM
Anyone's stream quality all messed up today? Keeps dropping to poor every 10 or so mins, then fixing itself

Erika_Xstacy
05-20-2022, 04:11 PM
Anyone's stream quality all messed up today? Keeps dropping to poor every 10 or so mins, then fixing itself


i did notice other streams today pixelated

roseforarose
05-20-2022, 04:43 PM
Did people not get paid today??? Like wtf!?!? lol It's Friday!!! Where's the money????

One of my best regs said he's having issues with his card on the site (he's not a freeloader so I believe this), could be that others are having issues too. But yeah it's grim, I'm gunna join another site at the end of the month bc SM is...not doing anymore it lol

Dreamqueen
05-20-2022, 09:22 PM
I'm not sure any industry is recession-proof, but there is some evidence I saw a while back that says people often spend MORE money on non-essential stuff when times are tougher. Sales of stuff like alcohol and entertainment things go up when the sensible opinion would state people cut back on non-essentials because they can't afford them The truth is that often they spend more on the things that cheer them up, even if they shouldn't or can't afford to. I know, I've done it. Of course there are lots too who do cut back because they don't have a choice. There are people on both sides.

Assuming these two scenarios are both true to an extent, they kind of cancel each other out. A customer said to me today that he bet my business shot up during the pandemic. They truth is it kind of remained the same although I can't compare to if the pandemic didn't happen. There will always be people who cut back at difficult times, and others who indulge more to make them feel better. Along with those who don't change their behaviour at all.

Business will always be up and down. All we can do is do the best for ourselves and give the customers the best orgasm we can! ;D

This is all very true.
Add to that, seeing cam girls and paying for cam shows is an addiction for most guys ( they've shared this info with me).
I've been a sex worker my entire adult life.
I've ridden the recessions, housing market crashes, etc.
My busiest day to date was on 9/11.
The weirdest thing was that not one customer mentioned it.
Even though I had the tv on at a low, but audible volume in the main room that they needed to walk through to get to the bedroom.
I've also had men book me the instant they had a death in the family, or some other event.

bigbum
05-21-2022, 01:14 AM
oh god…. fridays are never good for me lol. i will manifest a success. ironically i manifest big tips and i get big tips but no one for the life of me will go exclusive haha. shall i start manifesting exclusives ? might need to .
good luck tonight girlie

holly cow friday night whatttttt?
i drained DA FUCK out of those bitches.

our luck might be changing ladies , if you have time tonight hop on. ppl are spending . someone even mentioned they waited until today when they got paid . so ! yes!

JustMilfnAround
05-21-2022, 08:16 AM
Hmmm, just checked my profile in MY state that I have GEOBLOCKED and was able to see my profile. (No VPN) WTF?

fetishqueen
05-21-2022, 09:29 AM
This is all very true.
Add to that, seeing cam girls and paying for cam shows is an addiction for most guys ( they've shared this info with me).
I've been a sex worker my entire adult life.
I've ridden the recessions, housing market crashes, etc.
My busiest day to date was on 9/11.
The weirdest thing was that not one customer mentioned it.
Even though I had the tv on at a low, but audible volume in the main room that they needed to walk through to get to the bedroom.
I've also had men book me the instant they had a death in the family, or some other event.

Now that IS weird nobody mentioned it. I'm in the UK but I remember exactly what I was doing when it was on TV, I'll never forget that. It probably shows that we can be a way of guys escaping their lives, whether their lives are just a bit mundane or utterly awful. I really like that I can bring some pleasure to someone's day.

whirlerz
05-21-2022, 11:29 AM
I meant the customers. There are like noooo spenders. Then my room died at 3pm. Fuuuuck lol

Ohhh, I C 9, sorry :(.
Cheapos
I get it. Hope it gets better for ya.

I've a loonngg list of free loaders I'm going to an when they come back in my room. :)

Genoveve
05-21-2022, 11:50 AM
Now that IS weird nobody mentioned it. I'm in the UK but I remember exactly what I was doing when it was on TV, I'll never forget that. It probably shows that we can be a way of guys escaping their lives, whether their lives are just a bit mundane or utterly awful. I really like that I can bring some pleasure to someone's day.

I don't find it weird tbh. During all of the crazy political upheaval these last few years I don't know that I've had any customers mention any of it (save for the few guys that used to have me roleplay as Ivanka Trump, but that's just because they thought she was hot). I think it makes sense seeing as how (generally) guys are purchasing our services solely for the sake of their own enjoyment/release/relaxation.

fetishqueen
05-21-2022, 02:47 PM
So on the front page right now, someone who is on cam while they are in a bar, asking for trouble much? Not naked obviously but hell, how easy will it be for anyone else to be shown on the stream? I really don't get people!

kortneykay
05-22-2022, 03:51 AM
When I mentioned, "Not sure if I am supposed to contact the general SM support email or [email protected] but here is the issue..." I did get a snarky response saying, "We are helping you here. You don't need to mention you also contacted SM support..." Umm what? Ok... I guess it's a hot button topic or something.

I am getting a TON of private messages with phone numbers. I can block a member from messaging me but I can't delete their PM. How do I report the member for giving out contact information from the PM screen? Is it even worth it? I don't want to have to go to 3+ screens to report these members if it honestly doesn't do anything.

Without Liz or Vanessa SM has always been very much against the models. They still haven't given us a live chat because they truly don't care nor want models having access to their immediate attention. We make the whole industry and without us they'd be out of a job but it's very clear they really don't like us and would rather us stfu and work and be happy with 30-35%.

I wouldn't report shit. We wouldn't want them actually doing their jobs as it seems way too much for them and that they don't want to be bothered. I just keep a record via screenshots in case I need them. Other than that they don't hear from me much because every single email I have dating back to 2013 outside of Liz/Vanessa have all had very nasty undertones. "We don't see annyythhinggg wrong with your acct." Every. Single. Email. Lmao no issues ever in 9 years? Ok, Bob.

kortneykay
05-22-2022, 03:58 AM
Reading about how rude support is makes me never want to reach out. The few times I've reached out for a problem, it was always to Liz who is very helpful. Its like the support team resents the people who are making them money, really bizarre.

Maybe if they communicated with us about site issues instead of leaving us in the dark, they wouldn't be so bothered by our unnecessary and annoying emails! /s

SM will neverrrr do this. They'd rather stay quiet or cover them with contests vs actually lose potential money. If you say nothing girls will still log in. If you announce issues most won't bother coming on.

kortneykay
05-22-2022, 04:09 AM
oh haha rude/dumb support on sm? i stopped asking them things years ago. mostly i just ignore all glitches issues and “ bite the bullet” when things get to the point i am unable to work more than 1 day or something very pressing i contact liz. but I never contact her for minor issues, as i am sure she is so busy. but as for support…. completely …utterly… useless …

I do this too. Useless but I really needed to ask why I had a ton of recent 5 star reviews after my account was stuck on 4 for months. It says after a minimum of 5, 5 stars you'd get the average. I only had all 5's. Then they fixed it and said the system changes it when it wants automatically and that they don't see anything wrong, lol. Well if it was automatically, I wouldn't have reached out, haha. If it has something to do with my placement or missing money I reach out because I busted my ass, sore back and deserve my ranking. Otherwise I don't bother because I know how they treat us pretending you don't have account issues in their replies.

kortneykay
05-22-2022, 04:31 AM
This is all very true.
Add to that, seeing cam girls and paying for cam shows is an addiction for most guys ( they've shared this info with me).
I've been a sex worker my entire adult life.
I've ridden the recessions, housing market crashes, etc.
My busiest day to date was on 9/11.
The weirdest thing was that not one customer mentioned it.
Even though I had the tv on at a low, but audible volume in the main room that they needed to walk through to get to the bedroom.
I've also had men book me the instant they had a death in the family, or some other event.

This. I totally understand recessions and high gas/petrol but I can't say that it's ever stopped most guys from spending on porn. Addicts and needing to release stress has always trumped lack of funds imho. Also, when one can't spend, here comes 5 others. Sure, we feel pinches here or there but I feel like changing visuals usually spark more spending. I also know its been proven that even us Women spend more on beauty during the dry times subconsciously to attract financial help from Men going back to switching things up visually with ourselves. (Lipstick colors, new hair, new tits, new hot hot pics, etc). They love skeeting that stress out.

Also, at least my fellow Americans aren't paying by the litre like Europeans where the Eur and GBP is still heavier than USD and I'm paying double for food here in the DR. Try getting any American staple or groceries and it's $50 for taco hell or $160 for groceries bs $100 back home or $15 for the same taco hell meal. I've lived abroad now almost 4 years and my clients are 98% American. They spend like there is no recession plenty of times in my 14 yrs in this bizz. The money in 2008/2009 during the housing crash was one of the most highest earned years under my belt and it wasn't even hard.

kortneykay
05-22-2022, 04:37 AM
So on the front page right now, someone who is on cam while they are in a bar, asking for trouble much? Not naked obviously but hell, how easy will it be for anyone else to be shown on the stream? I really don't get people!

Depends where in the bar.

JustMilfnAround
05-23-2022, 09:41 AM
Holy shit this morning is TOUGH!

ravenskyy
05-23-2022, 09:52 AM
Holy shit this morning is TOUGH!

Seriously. I've made $5 so far. This is ridiculous.

TheAnonymousGal
05-23-2022, 02:29 PM
This. I totally understand recessions and high gas/petrol but I can't say that it's ever stopped most guys from spending on porn. Addicts and needing to release stress has always trumped lack of funds imho. Also, when one can't spend, here comes 5 others. Sure, we feel pinches here or there but I feel like changing visuals usually spark more spending. I also know its been proven that even us Women spend more on beauty during the dry times subconsciously to attract financial help from Men going back to switching things up visually with ourselves. (Lipstick colors, new hair, new tits, new hot hot pics, etc). They love skeeting that stress out.

They spend like there is no recession plenty of times in my 14 yrs in this bizz. The money in 2008/2009 during the housing crash was one of the most highest earned years under my belt and it wasn't even hard.

This! Been camming full time since 2001 supporting myself and 3 children with no alimony or child support (they're adults now). Recession? What's that? My hourly rate has stayed the same 12 years on SM. The few times I was able to take a couple of months off, I returned on page 3 or 4 and worked back onto the 1st page within a few weeks. Less than 5000 have favorited me and I don't use toys, costumes or props of any kind, never insert anything into any hole, or show my face. I just can't wrap my head around people who struggle to make money at this. It's like taking candy from a baby! Camming is completely consistent for me, always has been including shitty days here and there where nothing works to get business. Busiest day for me was the day after Trump was elected.

I'd love to help others succeed at this but idk how to. Just be yourself and you will attract enough good clients even if they are few and far between. If things get slow/boring, like kortneykay said, it's on ME to spice things up. I just put $100 into upping my sound quality and WOW, my clients have noticed and left reviews!

Let's face it, most people who frequent SM can't get what they want in real life and/because they are insensitive, thoughtless, self-entitled jerks OR they are mind-numbingly boring with zero personality, creativity, or manners. Same as it is with most jobs/people ime. I may cringe when 80% of them enter my chatroom but that 20% make it all worthwhile. For shows that end with the member actually saying thank you. My standard and honest response is, "It was my pleasure."

euro_princess
05-23-2022, 02:31 PM
Unfortunately, the new Stream.Fans will be an entire separate platform from SM. You won’t be able to promote your page while online on SM and there is no connecting between accounts, so your customers can’t join you there also.

Basically, they are offering an alternative to OF, but without any benefits from SM. Which in my POV is useless. If I have to market myself 12h out of 24h, you bet I will pick the platform with most notoriety. I knew there had to be a catch for their 80%. Pity! I’ll stick with OF and Fansly.

naomi_doll
05-23-2022, 03:27 PM
Unfortunately, the new Stream.Fans will be an entire separate platform from SM. You won’t be able to promote your page while online on SM and there is no connecting between accounts, so your customers can’t join you there also.

Basically, they are offering an alternative to OF, but without any benefits from SM. Which in my POV is useless. If I have to market myself 12h out of 24h, you bet I will pick the platform with most notoriety. I knew there had to be a catch for their 80%. Pity! I’ll stick with OF and Fansly.

They told me differently just the other day?
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SoloDesire
05-23-2022, 03:37 PM
These contests coming up be like:

https://media.giphy.com/media/d8isjk1UBPFTm0EBbd/giphy.gif

euro_princess
05-23-2022, 03:48 PM
They told me differently just the other day?
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Angela just confirmed on Discord what I mentioned above, I’m afraid. So as always SM support seems to be out of loop.

naomi_doll
05-23-2022, 04:27 PM
Angela just confirmed on Discord what I mentioned above, I’m afraid. So as always SM support seems to be out of loop.

I was whitelisted and already have a subscriber without promoting it shows up in my earnings as streamfans, have no idea how he found me, or why the payments, let alone his account info would be combined if it's completely separate.

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AuroraJade
05-23-2022, 04:54 PM
Unfortunately, the new Stream.Fans will be an entire separate platform from SM. You won’t be able to promote your page while online on SM and there is no connecting between accounts, so your customers can’t join you there also.

Basically, they are offering an alternative to OF, but without any benefits from SM. Which in my POV is useless. If I have to market myself 12h out of 24h, you bet I will pick the platform with most notoriety. I knew there had to be a catch for their 80%. Pity! I’ll stick with OF and Fansly.

They told in the Discord that there will be a integration soon, and that we will get more news this week, right? Where did you get info bc I reallyyyy wanna know if this is worth spending time on....

Erika_Xstacy
05-23-2022, 06:04 PM
I was whitelisted and already have a subscriber without promoting it shows up in my earnings as streamfans, have no idea how he found me, or why the payments, let alone his account info would be combined if it's completely separate.

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im curious.. did this show up in your model earnings acct?

naomi_doll
05-23-2022, 06:13 PM
im curious.. did this show up in your model earnings acct?

Yes, I can take a bigger screenshot tonight if that helps

Erika_Xstacy
05-23-2022, 07:13 PM
Yes, I can take a bigger screenshot tonight if that helps
nah thats not necessary i was just wondering but ty :)
The activity feed reminded me a lot of only fans so i wondered if they might just take the activity feed and make it into the streamfans. }:D seems like they would but who knows

AllieAussie
05-23-2022, 07:24 PM
Hi very new to streamate how can I check what page I'm located on ? do you only show up if you are online or can customers browse pages when you are offline and add you ? I am having trouble finding myself I take my geo block off and have to click on my smcontest result to even bring up my profile ? is anyone able to help me or maybe even search me ? name is BeautifulAussie18 (shit name I know ) lol

Erika_Xstacy
05-23-2022, 07:45 PM
Hi very new to streamate how can I check what page I'm located on ? do you only show up if you are online or can customers browse pages when you are offline and add you ? I am having trouble finding myself I take my geo block off and have to click on my smcontest result to even bring up my profile ? is anyone able to help me or maybe even search me ? name is BeautifulAussie18 (shit name I know ) lol

i see your profile but it says you are offline right now
lol its not a shit name

customers can see you offline and online it really depends what they are searching for but they are far more likely to see when you are streaming live.

KittenGirl
05-23-2022, 07:59 PM
If I were to have invested the amount of time I spend on mfc on streamate I'd be a fucking millionaire. Trying to get any engagement or tips is seriously the worst thing ever

naomi_doll
05-23-2022, 08:14 PM
nah thats not necessary i was just wondering but ty :)
The activity feed reminded me a lot of only fans so i wondered if they might just take the activity feed and make it into the streamfans. }:D seems like they would but who knows

I think so, when I posted to my streamfans it said "activity feed" but I don't have the activity feed so I couldn't check and see if it was posting to that. It looks like they are pulling the paid messaging, fan club and activity feed into being streamfans. It's really in a weird test mode right now though.

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Erika_Xstacy
05-23-2022, 08:22 PM
I think so, when I posted to my streamfans it said "activity feed" but I don't have the activity feed so I couldn't check and see if it was posting to that. It looks like they are pulling the paid messaging, fan club and activity feed into being streamfans. It's really in a weird test mode right now though.

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I do have the activity feed. right now I can only post photos (no video) and sell them individually

MelanieJ
05-23-2022, 11:41 PM
This! Been camming full time since 2001 supporting myself and 3 children with no alimony or child support (they're adults now). Recession? What's that? My hourly rate has stayed the same 12 years on SM. The few times I was able to take a couple of months off, I returned on page 3 or 4 and worked back onto the 1st page within a few weeks. Less than 5000 have favorited me and I don't use toys, costumes or props of any kind, never insert anything into any hole, or show my face. I just can't wrap my head around people who struggle to make money at this. It's like taking candy from a baby! Camming is completely consistent for me, always has been including shitty days here and there where nothing works to get business. Busiest day for me was the day after Trump was elected.

I'd love to help others succeed at this but idk how to. Just be yourself and you will attract enough good clients even if they are few and far between. If things get slow/boring, like kortneykay said, it's on ME to spice things up. I just put $100 into upping my sound quality and WOW, my clients have noticed and left reviews!

Let's face it, most people who frequent SM can't get what they want in real life and/because they are insensitive, thoughtless, self-entitled jerks OR they are mind-numbingly boring with zero personality, creativity, or manners. Same as it is with most jobs/people ime. I may cringe when 80% of them enter my chatroom but that 20% make it all worthwhile. For shows that end with the member actually saying thank you. My standard and honest response is, "It was my pleasure."

I'd love to know what you did to improve your sound quality if you don't mind sharing! I've been wanting to do the same for some time now, just don't want to waste money on anything unnecessary.

ravenskyy
05-24-2022, 07:18 AM
And here we go with the contests! lol 2 bonus events though and an additional bonus for the contest. Not bad. I'm gonna increase my hours for the next 2 weeks and see what happens.

fetishqueen
05-24-2022, 09:40 AM
This Streamfans thing, is it something SM has told us directly about? I don't remember seeing anything? How have you been told about it? :)

Erika_Xstacy
05-24-2022, 09:55 AM
This Streamfans thing, is it something SM has told us directly about? I don't remember seeing anything? How have you been told about it? :)

Xbiz mentioned it

laurielegs
05-24-2022, 11:21 AM
I was whitelisted and already have a subscriber without promoting it shows up in my earnings as streamfans, have no idea how he found me, or why the payments, let alone his account info would be combined if it's completely separate.

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Are you able to log directly into the Streamfans site yet? I can log in but it just takes me right to my Streamate dashboard. Maybe they are going to add a streamfans item in the dashboard so we can control it from there.

I'm guessing they will be adding us all in soon but I'm getting so curious!

naomi_doll
05-24-2022, 11:25 AM
Are you able to log directly into the Streamfans site yet? I can log in but it just takes me right to my Streamate dashboard. Maybe they are going to add a streamfans item in the dashboard so we can control it from there.

I'm guessing they will be adding us all in soon but I'm getting so curious!

Yeah its in the dashboard.
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ravenskyy
05-24-2022, 11:30 AM
Yeah its in the dashboard.
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Not for me. I logged in through the Streamfans site to see if that made a difference but nothing.

laurielegs
05-24-2022, 11:53 AM
Not for me. I logged in through the Streamfans site to see if that made a difference but nothing.

Same here. Probably they are still beta testing it and working out bugs before they open it up to all of us.

roseforarose
05-24-2022, 11:54 AM
Do support usually send a confirmation email when we contact them via the website form? I filled out the form a few days ago (as opposed to directly emailing) and didn't get a confirmation email and also haven't heard anything back yet ._.

SuperPookie
05-24-2022, 02:49 PM
I have nothing about Streamfans at all.

fetishqueen
05-24-2022, 02:58 PM
I have nothing about Streamfans at all.

No, me neither :(

Genoveve
05-24-2022, 03:26 PM
Who is going for what contests? I'm going to do the first 10 hour contest, but may be too burnt out from that to do the second 10 hour contest. Don't know about the 25 hour one.

AllieAussie
05-24-2022, 04:06 PM
I’m going to give it a crack

kamiliam
05-24-2022, 04:24 PM
Do support usually send a confirmation email when we contact them via the website form? I filled out the form a few days ago (as opposed to directly emailing) and didn't get a confirmation email and also haven't heard anything back yet ._.

no you get nada when you do it through the form