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AllieAussie
06-04-2022, 07:35 PM
the contest page does say "After the event, we'll verify all rankings. Performers with any fraudulent earnings will be disqualified, and may have their account suspended or closed."

if she is banking during a contest from obviously breaking rules, couldn't that be considered fraudulent? it's cheating. at the very least it should warrant her losing any bonus/prize money.
I’m so confused there must be different rules for each model the number 1 SM model yesterday was openly playing with her dog in free chat considering her experience in SM she would know the rules and must know they might not all apply to her with the earning that would come with number 1 position I personally would be toeing the line making sure there was no chance I could be disqualified

Dreamqueen
06-04-2022, 09:50 PM
^^^Yes, and I just wonder if the new MasterCard rules are ok with free chat nudity/fucking/dogs/etc.
Or are they just concerned with having the person who is registered to that account be present in the camera?
I'm so confused.
I'm also confused about the last part of Streamate's message in my inbox.
Especially the last part.
Like, what are they planning on implementing.
I might take a look at it again.
I just skimmed it before logging on.

VVV
06-05-2022, 08:20 AM
^^^Yes, and I just wonder if the new MasterCard rules are ok with free chat nudity/fucking/dogs/etc.
Or are they just concerned with having the person who is registered to that account be present in the camera?
I'm so confused.
I'm also confused about the last part of Streamate's message in my inbox.
Especially the last part.
Like, what are they planning on implementing.
I might take a look at it again.
I just skimmed it before logging on.

tbh i had a very bad week on SM, i reported yday a fuckmachine in pussy in the snapshot. i got the warning when i was off the screen to go to clean my dildo 3minutes and then these kind of breaking rules are not warned? i mean fuck machine in pussy in free bring money and happy client, empty screen for 2 min is not good for SM business! simple money rules LOL is it not difficult.. to understand EASY PEASY

kortneykay
06-05-2022, 10:00 AM
Perhaps just sticking to our own rooms would create less stress for us all? I only look at my own placement and occasionally models I'm crushing on then I go back to my room. We wouldn't notice what others are doing if we didn't check up on them and it would be a lot less stress on our selves. Just a suggestion.

JustMilfnAround
06-05-2022, 10:56 AM
Perhaps just sticking to our own rooms would create less stress for us all? I only look at my own placement and occasionally models I'm crushing on then I go back to my room. We wouldn't notice what others are doing if we didn't check up on them and it would be a lot less stress on our selves. Just a suggestion.

Whenever I do that my money ALWAYS goes up. ALWAYS. I do pop in to check on models I'm crushing on too though LOL

The only time I really go into rooms now is to verify if the site is just dead AF or if it is just my room. A few models are pretty vocal about traffic and deadness so I will check their rooms to see if they are talking about it or behaving like it is.

This morning, dead AF btw.

Cutie101
06-05-2022, 12:43 PM
Perhaps just sticking to our own rooms would create less stress for us all? I only look at my own placement and occasionally models I'm crushing on then I go back to my room. We wouldn't notice what others are doing if we didn't check up on them and it would be a lot less stress on our selves. Just a suggestion.

Exactly, since we aren't catering to same type of customers anyway. Everyone does whatever they are comfortable with. I am happy most of the page is asleep, since they started doing that, I had an influx of members who are happy to chat in private. Just right what I was looking for.

It's kinda pointless to have a problem with a model that does a sleep show, because:

1. There are members who are fetishizing sleep shows, duh. So definitely NOT the customers I want in my room. Very well, she can take them.
2. I can't be upset about something I am not even willing to do. Instead of having members asking me if I do sleep shows, I focus on those who don't find her room appealing, but they find mine. And those members can go straight there and spend. Win win for both of us.
3. Glad they are on first page, it helps members scroll faster and actually come on page 2-3 where the rest of us have a chance to be seen. All awake and ready to offer them a nice experience.
4. If I would really be to compare myself with a sleep model, I'd simply do sleep shows too. That's when things would be "fair" and the best would win. It's like when people say about our job that it's unfair and easy to do. Ok dude, come do my job and then WE compare. Same with camgirls, hating different hustling for being unfair. Go do same thing then, no one stops you.

That simple.

VVV
06-05-2022, 01:36 PM
Perhaps just sticking to our own rooms would create less stress for us all? I only look at my own placement and occasionally models I'm crushing on then I go back to my room. We wouldn't notice what others are doing if we didn't check up on them and it would be a lot less stress on our selves. Just a suggestion.


i did not check her room, i was scrolling to find myself in the snashots. i did not find me however i saw that girl with fuck machine in pussy as snapshot.

sometimes i get lingerie inspiration ohhh ranking in the contest breaking rules is upsetting if you had a bad week anyway i admit that ;D i m not checking all rooms for that tho.
i move on but i report if i see on snapshot, ask if allowed also so i will myself too if bring traffic nahhh? i would if allowed

ravenskyy
06-06-2022, 11:40 AM
They keep coming into my room, I say hi and then they leave. Nice.

xStellaBlue
06-06-2022, 11:53 AM
They keep coming into my room, I say hi and then they leave. Nice.
I just have people talking forever, not tipping, not going private - I'd rather them just leave immediately rather than waste my time.

whirlerz
06-06-2022, 12:06 PM
They keep coming into my room, I say hi and then they leave. Nice.


I just have people talking forever, not tipping, not going private - I'd rather them just leave immediately rather than waste my time.

I can see the case for both.

Cutie101
06-06-2022, 12:14 PM
They keep coming into my room, I say hi and then they leave. Nice.

We all get the same thing, I don't get it either. They even say hi, hru... good thanks hru, good... and then leave. Fucking suspicious. SM is the only place I experienced this constantly, it happens too on other sites, but on SM it's like an invisible wizard is cutting the members off in the middle of convo, lmao. How come on other sites they can stay and talk and here after "hi hru" they leave. Weeiiiird.

ravenskyy
06-06-2022, 12:19 PM
I can see the case for both,^ I'm starting, if they keep popping in and out, I'm banning.
I'm keeping a list too

I've banned 4 guys today lol I didn't even work my full shift. It's been a rough afternoon, so I'm just going to attempt to retain the little bit of sanity that I have left and try again later.


We all get the same thing, I don't get it either. They even say hi, hru... good thanks hru, good... and then leave. Fucking suspicious. SM is the only place I experienced this constantly, it happens too on other sites, but on SM it's like an invisible wizard is cutting the members off in the middle of convo, lmao. How come on other sites they can stay and talk and here after "hi hru" they leave. Weeiiiird.

Streamate is weird dude lol I also get these guys that camp out after I greet them. I say hi to the room, hi to them using their name and even type to them, and nothing. I kick them after that. Then they'll freaking come back! TF!? What's your purpose!? lmfao

bigbum
06-06-2022, 01:08 PM
I've banned 4 guys today lol I didn't even work my full shift. It's been a rough afternoon, so I'm just going to attempt to retain the little bit of sanity that I have left and try again later.



Streamate is weird dude lol I also get these guys that camp out after I greet them. I say hi to the room, hi to them using their name and even type to them, and nothing. I kick them after that. Then they'll freaking come back! TF!? What's your purpose!? lmfao
according to my husband men stroke to anything. attention, talking to them , your outfit . rofl. i even saw one user named shiny fetish , yoga pants.
for me i get the 1,1,1, conversation strokers who think tipppng 1,1, every 10 minutes is enough.lol for those ladies who think these freaks just “want to talk “ ummm no… that “nice guy who hangs out “ oh he is stroking too . stroking to your attention you are giving him .

ravenskyy
06-06-2022, 01:14 PM
according to my husband men stroke to anything. attention, talking to them , your outfit . rofl. i even saw one user named shiny fetish , yoga pants.
for me i get the 1,1,1, conversation strokers who think tipppng 1,1, every 10 minutes is enough.lol for those ladies who think these freaks just “want to talk “ ummm no… that “nice guy who hangs out “ oh he is stroking too . stroking to your attention you are giving him .

It's so annoying. I joke about guys "fapping to my forehead" all the time lol this is why I don't like wearing lingerie on cam. I like to cover everything, so they only have my forehead to fap to. lmao

Genoveve
06-06-2022, 02:17 PM
according to my husband men stroke to anything. attention, talking to them , your outfit . rofl. i even saw one user named shiny fetish , yoga pants.

’Yoga pants’ (using quotations because when men say ‘yoga pants’ to me they always mean leggings, and to me they are 2 different things) are the number 1 outfit request I get.

fetishqueen
06-06-2022, 02:21 PM
It's not unique, I used to get exactly the same 'hi', 'hru', 'ok, hru' etc then they just leave on AW as well, just the same. I don't get why they respond to my hello at all if they don't want to talk! Or why they start to chat then just go. Make your fucking mind up! Either chat and hopefully spend, or just go without draining my limited sanity and patience for no reason. Oh, and those who throw out the exaggerated compliments but spend nothing, assuming I will lap up the attention and not notice they have spent fuck all. Mate I do not give a shit that you think I'm beautiful, your fake compliments do not pay my bills!

Oh hell I could go on all day! :D

kortneykay
06-06-2022, 02:48 PM
Exactly, since we aren't catering to same type of customers anyway. Everyone does whatever they are comfortable with. I am happy most of the page is asleep, since they started doing that, I had an influx of members who are happy to chat in private. Just right what I was looking for.

It's kinda pointless to have a problem with a model that does a sleep show, because:

1. There are members who are fetishizing sleep shows, duh. So definitely NOT the customers I want in my room. Very well, she can take them.
2. I can't be upset about something I am not even willing to do. Instead of having members asking me if I do sleep shows, I focus on those who don't find her room appealing, but they find mine. And those members can go straight there and spend. Win win for both of us.
3. Glad they are on first page, it helps members scroll faster and actually come on page 2-3 where the rest of us have a chance to be seen. All awake and ready to offer them a nice experience.
4. If I would really be to compare myself with a sleep model, I'd simply do sleep shows too. That's when things would be "fair" and the best would win. It's like when people say about our job that it's unfair and easy to do. Ok dude, come do my job and then WE compare. Same with camgirls, hating different hustling for being unfair. Go do same thing then, no one stops you.

That simple.

I didn't even know people had issues with sleep shows. I assumed they do them to make cash and or get their placement up and keep up their hours during contests. 25h is hard on your back, especially if it's slower that week. You make a great point about sleep fetishists and having more of your own traffic. Honestly I assume because a lot of us have been in this very thread pointing out what other models do, but we've done this for years so I guess I didn't expect the agitation. Someone always goes the distance to get their bag. I don't consider it unfair, I admire their drive and still content know a bitch could never because I'm a lazy camhoe.

It's like, so and so is flashing pussy in free chat but that happens daily even when GS were introduced. We kind of just expected it. All of us are gonna do what we do so nothing about models trigger me anymore. I wish I could do sleep shows. I need pitch blackness, I wake up randomly to go pee, super light sleeper, and I'd look a hot mess and would probably forget I was 1. Live, and 2. wanna dick punch tippers for waking me, lol.

kortneykay
06-06-2022, 02:58 PM
i did not check her room, i was scrolling to find myself in the snashots. i did not find me however i saw that girl with fuck machine in pussy as snapshot.

sometimes i get lingerie inspiration ohhh ranking in the contest breaking rules is upsetting if you had a bad week anyway i admit that ;D i m not checking all rooms for that tho.
i move on but i report if i see on snapshot, ask if allowed also so i will myself too if bring traffic nahhh? i would if allowed

You're not the only one mentioning pussy and fuck machines, I did too previously in the thread and others so I wasn't singling you out but was just generally speaking. Going into rooms, looking at other models from the front page, etc same to me I beat it back to my room so I can earn. Reporting and screenshots take unpaid energy away from me but diff strokes for diff folks.

I've literally never ever placed in a contest and I feel the burn occasionally but it had nothing to do with another model. I did well and was busy even though I didn't place. I'm a thick ebony model. Another model dildoing herself is not in my niche most likely nor has my tags so we're not alike enough for a guy to go "X's lips are out, screw you, I'm going to spend money on her!" Most likely he wasn't charged to see hers and went and got a t-shirt but I'm different and fully clothed and wants to see mine so he'll pay for it because he doesn't have a choice. Also, plenty of thick ebony girls naked, cooch showing but my rank is still high and placement too. Some sit with their tits day in, day out for years but he's tipping to see mine. We all have different hustles. Some girls wanna avoid tease and what you see is what you get.

I dislike them because I don't like anything fucking with my money, placement or feed. Contest weeks are also masked for tech issues and always have been. I've been on SM since 2013, cam since 2008 Women have always done wild stuff in free and will until the last free chat dies off. Thing is SM rarely bans models over below the belt nudity. Hell Even couples have screwed in free. I guess due to other sites like chaturbate and MFC its not shocking anyone. I bet the models you report still do the same each and every contest, lol.

Cutie101
06-06-2022, 02:59 PM
As I was saying... there's a wizard that kicks those guys once they are interested in talking lol.

57253

Erika_Xstacy
06-06-2022, 08:21 PM
Is there a way to send pics through messenger without them also posting to your profile?
lol its the dumbest shit ever

bigbum
06-06-2022, 11:33 PM
It's so annoying. I joke about guys "fapping to my forehead" all the time lol this is why I don't like wearing lingerie on cam. I like to cover everything, so they only have my forehead to fap to. lmao

yepppp any attention they will nut for it . literally.. hell the record was i had a scrunchie on my wrist and in my room walks "scrunchielover"
lets just say i took it off right away lol..
i mean come on .. a scrunchie fetish?! ROFL!


or the user name "BAN ME"

that one i just say "ok" and i ban them. i most likely made them nut just from that ROFL!!

bigbum
06-06-2022, 11:34 PM
’Yoga pants’ (using quotations because when men say ‘yoga pants’ to me they always mean leggings, and to me they are 2 different things) are the number 1 outfit request I get.
i am at the point where i dont even fucking bother to answer them.. . you have "yoga pants" and they will want you to cut a hole in them . trust me LOL

Genoveve
06-07-2022, 12:07 AM
^^^I’ve actually never been asked to do that! Are they asking you that when you’re in the leggings or before while they’re asking about them? Up until recently I used to make sure I always had a pair of leggings nearby because I knew every shift that at some point I was going to end up in a pair. But I just realized that that was from like 2018-2021. Haven’t been asked for them in a while. :thinking:

ETA oh and 95% of the time they always wanted black leggings.

Luckygoldfish
06-07-2022, 02:12 AM
Girls from U.K. did you get your money ? SM paid last Thursday as usual I did bank deposit SEPA(masspay) , waited 5 days and then yesterday it has returned as cancelled (no explanation) then I tried wire transfer still says processing. Very annoying considering non existent masspay support

Strawberryblonde
06-07-2022, 09:48 AM
Girls from U.K. did you get your money ? SM paid last Thursday as usual I did bank deposit SEPA(masspay) , waited 5 days and then yesterday it has returned as cancelled (no explanation) then I tried wire transfer still says processing. Very annoying considering non existent masspay support

I had a problem a few weeks ago because I selected the wrong SEPA (Euros), this never appeared even though my account will accept Euros. I contacted Customer Support who were fabulous. They looked for it, found it, returned it, I was able to select the correct SEPA (in GBP) which appeared in my account immediately. Very pleased. Compare this with SM support when I first started, my 2nd ever payment never arrived - SM support passed me from pillar to post until eventually they returned it often not replying for several days at a time, and reps did not know why the payment had not arrived - for at least 7 days until they returned it. No explanation. Mass Pay have been great. Have you contacted them?I did find they took 8 hours to respond, but I think they are based in Arizona which is 8 hours or so difference - and their response matched with the delay. Not days and days like SM! Took me at least 2 if not 3 weeks to get the money, whereas MP got it all sorted within a couple of days.

emkato
06-07-2022, 10:11 AM
i am at the point where i dont even fucking bother to answer them.. . you have "yoga pants" and they will want you to cut a hole in them . trust me LOL
lmao I hop online today and within the first 2 minutes I get this:

Meant2B: Hey love
Meant2B: Do you have some leggings you can rip open?

I told him I'm not going to damage my clothes for a few dollars. his type are most certainly not going to offer to pay for new leggings so screw that.

Genoveve
06-07-2022, 10:32 AM
^^^Wow talk about speaking things into existence LOL.

fetishqueen
06-07-2022, 10:40 AM
I have a guy who has asked for this twice during shows, I asked him how much he would pay and both times paid 50 Gold, the leggings are not expensive and I still made a small profit! Never been asked to rip them by anyone else though, not yet anyway!

On another note, I'm thinking of immediately blocking anyone with the word Sissy in their username, or if they mention it. God almighty, the biggest time wasters ever, bar none. Perhaps I should just be unspeakably rude when they come in, then they might have a show! Anyone have any success with them? I'm not a Domme but do a bit of SPH and JOI. Surely some of them have shows or is every single one a fantasist with an empty wallet? IDK!

Genoveve
06-07-2022, 10:42 AM
^^^I do have ‘sissy’ username spenders. I am generally rude to them when they come in (like I am to everyone).

fetishqueen
06-07-2022, 10:48 AM
^^^I do have ‘sissy’ username spenders. I am generally rude to them when they come in (like I am to everyone).

Ah that's not my MO really but you gave me an idea, I'm going to create a special auto message for them so my other guys won't think I'm talking to them, AND I can be rude as fuck as appropriate! In fact, that could work for other requests too...hmm!

emkato
06-07-2022, 11:01 AM
I have a guy who has asked for this twice during shows, I asked him how much he would pay and both times paid 50 Gold, the leggings are not expensive and I still made a small profit! Never been asked to rip them by anyone else though, not yet anyway!

On another note, I'm thinking of immediately blocking anyone with the word Sissy in their username, or if they mention it. God almighty, the biggest time wasters ever, bar none. Perhaps I should just be unspeakably rude when they come in, then they might have a show! Anyone have any success with them? I'm not a Domme but do a bit of SPH and JOI. Surely some of them have shows or is every single one a fantasist with an empty wallet? IDK!

If I get asked by anyone to rip my leggings again, instead of just saying no Ill probably ask if he would tip to replace my leggings instead. worth a shot. I wont hold my breath though lol.

I personally do a lot of sissy training, sph, "forced" bi fantasies, CEI, ect. its my bread and butter. a lot of my customers have sissy in their username and love to spend. some are bullshitters but not all.

For me personally I find wannabe pay pigs are the ones that never spend. or they will ask what kind of tip games I offer to drain them. I will discuss it and they seem interested then they leave, never to spend a dime. being a pay pig is an expensive hobby and most guys want to live that lifestyle and talking about it gets them off, but they cant actually afford to be drained of any money. finding a real paypig that can and WILL actually spend a lot are so rare, like finding a needle in a haystack.

Genoveve
06-07-2022, 11:14 AM
^^^Don’t discuss it with them, a real paypig will get that they need to spend money for any attention from you. I kick them out if they are yapping and not spending, or if they tip me $1-$5 to try and get me interested. Half the time they come back and immediately start spending for real. The other half, well I got rid of a cheapass quick.

emkato
06-07-2022, 11:18 AM
^^^Don’t discuss it with them, a real paypig will get that they need to spend money for any attention from you. I kick them out if they are yapping and not spending, or if they tip me $1-$5 to try and get me interested. Half the time they come back and immediately start spending for real. The other half, well I got rid of a cheapass quick.

its funny, I was just about to edit my post just now and add in that real paypigs will tip as they enter your room as tribute to even speak to you. if they don't do that they're a phony because that's a basic rule of being a paypig. message with no tip? ignored and banished until they prove theyre worthy.}:D

ravenskyy
06-07-2022, 01:38 PM
This slowness is scary. I'm trying to remain hopeful, but it's hard not to stress these days.

Angela888
06-07-2022, 02:48 PM
I had a problem a few weeks ago because I selected the wrong SEPA (Euros), this never appeared even though my account will accept Euros. I contacted Customer Support who were fabulous. They looked for it, found it, returned it, I was able to select the correct SEPA (in GBP) which appeared in my account immediately. Very pleased. Compare this with SM support when I first started, my 2nd ever payment never arrived - SM support passed me from pillar to post until eventually they returned it often not replying for several days at a time, and reps did not know why the payment had not arrived - for at least 7 days until they returned it. No explanation. Mass Pay have been great. Have you contacted them?I did find they took 8 hours to respond, but I think they are based in Arizona which is 8 hours or so difference - and their response matched with the delay. Not days and days like SM! Took me at least 2 if not 3 weeks to get the money, whereas MP got it all sorted within a couple of days.

Me too having issue with MassPay....do you mind me asking how you contacted them, as I emailed them and zero reply. Thanks x

Erika_Xstacy
06-07-2022, 03:18 PM
This slowness is scary. I'm trying to remain hopeful, but it's hard not to stress these days.

are you able to split it up morning and night?
I do afternoon and nights if one didn't hit the other usually does
i have better luck in the summer splitting it up

naomi_doll
06-07-2022, 03:29 PM
are you able to split it up morning and night?
I do afternoon and nights if one didn't hit the other usually does
i have better luck in the summer splitting it up

Splitting works well for me too, though it feels like I have no day at all those days lol

hotmodel
06-07-2022, 03:44 PM
hi girls...I just got an email from streamate...I emailed Liz and im waiting for her reply. But in the meantime....i'm stressing because wtf is this? So, streamate emails me saying my account has been closed because of extremely high amounts of unreported fraudulent earnings? Mind you, I've been with streamate for yearrrssssss. Like 13 years and I don't work on it all that much and when I do I dont make high amounts of money? I'm soooo confused with this? Has this ever happened to anyone? Thanks ladies.

VVV
06-07-2022, 05:12 PM
hi girls...I just got an email from streamate...I emailed Liz and im waiting for her reply. But in the meantime....i'm stressing because wtf is this? So, streamate emails me saying my account has been closed because of extremely high amounts of unreported fraudulent earnings? Mind you, I've been with streamate for yearrrssssss. Like 13 years and I don't work on it all that much and when I do I dont make high amounts of money? I'm soooo confused with this? Has this ever happened to anyone? Thanks ladies.

i remember that a girl had same thing. it is in this thread. sorry if i can not help further. i would just ask to investigate and ask how who and when happens. try to understand. how should be your responsability on that etc...

Dont_Care
06-07-2022, 05:51 PM
hi girls...I just got an email from streamate...I emailed Liz and im waiting for her reply. But in the meantime....i'm stressing because wtf is this? So, streamate emails me saying my account has been closed because of extremely high amounts of unreported fraudulent earnings? Mind you, I've been with streamate for yearrrssssss. Like 13 years and I don't work on it all that much and when I do I dont make high amounts of money? I'm soooo confused with this? Has this ever happened to anyone? Thanks ladies.



Maybe its a confusion and its not ur account.Ask Liz to double check because a few months ago, on Ambercutie(not sure if im allowed to name it) there used to be a model with the same issue but it figured it out it wasn't her account that they wanted to terminate and she could get her account back.

hotmodel
06-07-2022, 06:27 PM
Maybe its a confusion and its not ur account.Ask Liz to double check because a few months ago, on Ambercutie(not sure if im allowed to name it) there used to be a model with the same issue but it figured it out it wasn't her account that they wanted to terminate and she could get her account back.

Thank you so much for the replies :) I'm waiting for liz's reply. Praying that this might be what's going on. I'll reply in here after I hear from Liz and let you ladies know what happened incase any other girls come across this issue. So frustrating...its stressing me out waiting to hear :(

hotmodel
06-07-2022, 09:13 PM
Liz got back to me and said this...Our fraud department found that a high percentage of your earnings came from fraudulent sources, it was never reported and it seemed that in your chat you knew who the person was.

Ok, first off...I dont know ANYONE on streamate personally and I didn't know we needed to report what looks to be fraudulent. I can't see any internal stuff. I have NO idea what's going on. I've been on this site for 13-14 years and I've never heard of anything like this. Ontop of all of this...I haven't been on the site in weeks. I jumped on and made a tad over 500.00 that day. That's not an insane amount of money and 460.00 was from one guy. I'm guessing this is who they are talking about because I haven't been on the site for weeks. But im not 100% sure who they are talking about because they havent told me. Ok so...they say it SEEMED like I knew him. Omg, they need to go watch this cam session I did. For one, he turned on his cam and talked the whole time and our dialog is us getting to know each other. Whats your name etc...I did not know him. They need to give me evidence because I know I did nothing wrong. This is crazy and sad. How am I suppose to know who is fraud or not? Ugh so frustrated and sad. Be careful ladies...I guess we gotta play police now and report someone who spends too much in our rooms...crazy...if Liz gets back to me...I'll update it in here but as of right now...I'm back to waiting to hear from liz. Stressed and sad :(

Strawberryblonde
06-07-2022, 10:11 PM
Me too having issue with MassPay....do you mind me asking how you contacted them, as I emailed them and zero reply. Thanks x

I used whatever support form I found on the site, I am certain it was a help contact form on their website. They replied within I think 12 hours and that was the pattern. I avidly check my junk mail box but pretty sure it came straight to inbox.

Strawberryblonde
06-08-2022, 12:44 AM
Is there a way to send pics through messenger without them also posting to your profile?

I would like to know this too.

Angela888
06-08-2022, 02:02 AM
Liz got back to me and said this...Our fraud department found that a high percentage of your earnings came from fraudulent sources, it was never reported and it seemed that in your chat you knew who the person was.

Ok, first off...I dont know ANYONE on streamate personally and I didn't know we needed to report what looks to be fraudulent. I can't see any internal stuff. I have NO idea what's going on. I've been on this site for 13-14 years and I've never heard of anything like this. Ontop of all of this...I haven't been on the site in weeks. I jumped on and made a tad over 500.00 that day. That's not an insane amount of money and 460.00 was from one guy. I'm guessing this is who they are talking about because I haven't been on the site for weeks. But im not 100% sure who they are talking about because they havent told me. Ok so...they say it SEEMED like I knew him. Omg, they need to go watch this cam session I did. For one, he turned on his cam and talked the whole time and our dialog is us getting to know each other. Whats your name etc...I did not know him. They need to give me evidence because I know I did nothing wrong. This is crazy and sad. How am I suppose to know who is fraud or not? Ugh so frustrated and sad. Be careful ladies...I guess we gotta play police now and report someone who spends too much in our rooms...crazy...if Liz gets back to me...I'll update it in here but as of right now...I'm back to waiting to hear from liz. Stressed and sad :(

I’m pretty sure that legally they have to record every show we do so they will be able to watch it back and see you did nothing wrong. X

liquidsilk
06-08-2022, 02:19 AM
I'd imagine there is some kind of chargeback threshold for accounts to be automatically suspended or scheduled for deletion. It is likely that by virtue of you streaming rarely and for short periods of time, the trigger was passed when in one day 92% of your earnings turned out to be fraudulent.

I'd keep asking for a review and I'd hope that your previous good standing works in your favour.

There was a mass mail/blog post about our obligation to report suspicious activity and a 1st time customer spending almost 1500 on a show should probably have been reported x

Luci Fer
06-08-2022, 02:49 AM
Liz got back to me and said this...Our fraud department found that a high percentage of your earnings came from fraudulent sources, it was never reported and it seemed that in your chat you knew who the person was.

Ok, first off...I dont know ANYONE on streamate personally and I didn't know we needed to report what looks to be fraudulent. I can't see any internal stuff. I have NO idea what's going on. I've been on this site for 13-14 years and I've never heard of anything like this. Ontop of all of this...I haven't been on the site in weeks. I jumped on and made a tad over 500.00 that day. That's not an insane amount of money and 460.00 was from one guy. I'm guessing this is who they are talking about because I haven't been on the site for weeks. But im not 100% sure who they are talking about because they havent told me. Ok so...they say it SEEMED like I knew him. Omg, they need to go watch this cam session I did. For one, he turned on his cam and talked the whole time and our dialog is us getting to know each other. Whats your name etc...I did not know him. They need to give me evidence because I know I did nothing wrong. This is crazy and sad. How am I suppose to know who is fraud or not? Ugh so frustrated and sad. Be careful ladies...I guess we gotta play police now and report someone who spends too much in our rooms...crazy...if Liz gets back to me...I'll update it in here but as of right now...I'm back to waiting to hear from liz. Stressed and sad :(

How cute. They put a responsibility on models for members violating the rules. This guy was probably a carder using some hacked acct and they blamed you for him violating the rules, wow. They can't catch/ban/punish him, they got the solid % of the money he spent on you, and to stay 'nice" and keep their face they put the guilt on you.
Tell them to investigate, to check that show out, and don't give up! It's your earned money and it's not your problem and duty to catch potential hackers. It's SM problem and they try to put it on you.

SapphireXO
06-08-2022, 05:18 AM
Liz got back to me and said this...Our fraud department found that a high percentage of your earnings came from fraudulent sources, it was never reported and it seemed that in your chat you knew who the person was.

Ok, first off...I dont know ANYONE on streamate personally and I didn't know we needed to report what looks to be fraudulent. I can't see any internal stuff. I have NO idea what's going on. I've been on this site for 13-14 years and I've never heard of anything like this. Ontop of all of this...I haven't been on the site in weeks. I jumped on and made a tad over 500.00 that day. That's not an insane amount of money and 460.00 was from one guy. I'm guessing this is who they are talking about because I haven't been on the site for weeks. But im not 100% sure who they are talking about because they havent told me. Ok so...they say it SEEMED like I knew him. Omg, they need to go watch this cam session I did. For one, he turned on his cam and talked the whole time and our dialog is us getting to know each other. Whats your name etc...I did not know him. They need to give me evidence because I know I did nothing wrong. This is crazy and sad. How am I suppose to know who is fraud or not? Ugh so frustrated and sad. Be careful ladies...I guess we gotta play police now and report someone who spends too much in our rooms...crazy...if Liz gets back to me...I'll update it in here but as of right now...I'm back to waiting to hear from liz. Stressed and sad :(

That is stressful. It reminds me of when businesses use employees as self-managers but give them little to no power to take any reasonable action. It's call stupid-visors. If there was an easy to use function to report TOS violators or live chat with the fraud department to report users as they are spending or support agents to increase new customers' spending limits - fantastic. NOPE. I have to send an email and oftentimes do not get a response. If I do get a response, it's not until the next day. If I go through the generalized SMsupport area of the website, I don't get a response for 1-2 weeks.

I love SM's platform but always feeling like "the other shoe is going to drop" or the window of opportunity closes on me unexpectedly - keeps me working other sites FOR SURE.

hotmodel
06-08-2022, 07:10 AM
Thank you ladies for all the replies :) still no response yet. Streamates email response was an automated response....basically the same response from the beginning. No hearing me out. I'm still waiting for liz's reply basically stating my case. This is crazy. I never read that email that we needed to report any weird activity. The other weird thing is...if this guy was a hacker on some stolen credit card...why would he do cam2cam the whole time and with his voice. And if he was hacker with a stolen credit card....he sure was a nice, clean cut thief. I dont know...this is crazy...so basically, we have to report any high spenders that are new? This is crazy...over all my years on streamate and even on other sites...new guys come along and spend lots right away. I feel like im gonna have to look at any new big time spenders like there thiefs and turn them away? Block them? Cause I'm scared im gonna get my account closed? This is nuts. I can't work on a site if I have to do this? The whole point of this...is to get those big spenders. Without them...camming sucks. I hope they watch that session because I did nothing wrong...just crazy :(

Luci Fer
06-08-2022, 08:14 AM
Thank you ladies for all the replies :) still no response yet. Streamates email response was an automated response....basically the same response from the beginning. No hearing me out. I'm still waiting for liz's reply basically stating my case. This is crazy. I never read that email that we needed to report any weird activity. The other weird thing is...if this guy was a hacker on some stolen credit card...why would he do cam2cam the whole time and with his voice. And if he was hacker with a stolen credit card....he sure was a nice, clean cut thief. I dont know...this is crazy...so basically, we have to report any high spenders that are new? This is crazy...over all my years on streamate and even on other sites...new guys come along and spend lots right away. I feel like im gonna have to look at any new big time spenders like there thiefs and turn them away? Block them? Cause I'm scared im gonna get my account closed? This is nuts. I can't work on a site if I have to do this? The whole point of this...is to get those big spenders. Without them...camming sucks. I hope they watch that session because I did nothing wrong...just crazy :(

Yes, SM messaged (last year I think), that it's model duty now to report (and ban, if I remember it correctly) any member who changes his nicknames often and /or spends big amounts of money right away.
The thing is, that a guy can buy an account with $$$ on it (i.e. someone elses's hacked acct) and you might never know it. He would spend on you and then if SM finds it "suspicious", they will blame you. So every time you encounter a whale, instead of being happy you should feel paranoia. :(
Idk about c2c, but I think they don't have a right to claim they "think" you knew that guy. I really hope Liz will help you with this.
ofc, ofc this way they try to protect themselves, but they have to find another way to do it, without putting it on models and then throwing them away.