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misspandora
07-29-2022, 11:35 AM
same here! at least twice a week ! I just know from the start this is goingto be a damn boring day for me. only in and out its like someone press a button and everyone just gone. No reply from members and just 1 2 in my room once in a while. This its just soo damn strange and its happening since like months! once or twice a week . so damn strange and frustrating. i just have no one tallk with!
For real. Guys coming in "Hey I'm horny." Or "Hey do you do roleplay, I want you to be my girlfriend's mom" or the like, JOI, CEI, all of which I do but when I say yes I do, poof! Gone.
So bizarre.
Even customers who've done paid shows w me before are just popping in and popping out. Maybe I have a giant wart on my face and can't see it? LOL
laurielegs
07-29-2022, 11:48 AM
So apparently, the reason I couldn't log on is because someone else was trying to change their name to my name? And I guess that's why they closed my account saying I was not approved performer. So I can finally log on! BACK IN BUSINESS!!.. I am so excited.. It literally took them 4 days to figure it out. Really, I already knew because the search was not showing me and it was showing a picture of someone else from a white label and I told them that as well.. but WHEW!!.. I thought I would never be able to log on again.
I'm relieved they found out why and were honest about it. I really feel they should compensate you at least something for the lost time since it was 100% Streamate's fault you lost that time and were unable to work.
Dreamqueen
07-29-2022, 12:14 PM
For real. Guys coming in "Hey I'm horny." Or "Hey do you do roleplay, I want you to be my girlfriend's mom" or the like, JOI, CEI, all of which I do but when I say yes I do, poof! Gone.
So bizarre.
Even customers who've done paid shows w me before are just popping in and popping out. Maybe I have a giant wart on my face and can't see it? LOL
This has been happening to me too.
I'll say yes to what they want, and poof. They disappear.
Past customers are doing the same thing.
Hmm.
It's frustrating because in my mind I'm thinking that all of those time wasters set me back financially.
Because I'm always calculating: okay, he will get my electric bill paid. He's going to pay my internet bill, etc.
Lol
kortneykay
07-29-2022, 01:54 PM
I made $50 then it died. Glad I'm splitting w other sites. Its slow but there's some money.
Erika_Xstacy
07-29-2022, 02:00 PM
member feedback this week for me is mixed with mine, both ends are having issues
cam gets blurry for them but my end is fine.
cam2cam isn't working for a lot of mobile users, just a black box appears on my end.
there is lag.
our webcams don't load in paid chat.
members booted out of free chat like the other 20 at the same time "they all left" but they pile back in.
exclusive i noticed on my end it takes longer for the member to appear and it seems like they are not going into the private, both rooms are empty and suddenly he's in there. thats happened a few times on my end.
Ive had members log out of private and come back bc they were booted.
2 members were manually disconnected from free chat. i assume it is support doing that.
misspandora
07-29-2022, 02:18 PM
This has been happening to me too.
I'll say yes to what they want, and poof. They disappear.
Past customers are doing the same thing.
Hmm.
It's frustrating because in my mind I'm thinking that all of those time wasters set me back financially.
Because I'm always calculating: okay, he will get my electric bill paid. He's going to pay my internet bill, etc.
Lol
Yup. I'm the same way.
misspandora
07-29-2022, 02:19 PM
member feedback this week for me is mixed with mine, both ends are having issues
cam gets blurry for them but my end is fine.
cam2cam isn't working for a lot of mobile users, just a black box appears on my end.
there is lag.
our webcams don't load in paid chat.
members booted out of free chat like the other 20 at the same time "they all left" but they pile back in.
exclusive i noticed on my end it takes longer for the member to appear and it seems like they are not going into the private, both rooms are empty and suddenly he's in there. thats happened a few times on my end.
Ive had members log out of private and come back bc they were booted.
2 members were manually disconnected from free chat. i assume it is support doing that.
Maybe that's partially why I've noticed so many people popping in and out. Soooo frustrating
Erika_Xstacy
07-29-2022, 02:45 PM
Maybe that's partially why I've noticed so many people popping in and out. Soooo frustrating
if you feel like its non stop all day id hit up support by reporting custis if they come back
I've been reporting customers having technical issues in the drop down
whirlerz
07-29-2022, 02:50 PM
Yes, I remember them talking about being disconnected too^
Erika_Xstacy
07-29-2022, 03:19 PM
Dlong23 has logged on
Dlong23 has logged off (reason: user left)
Dlong23 has logged on
Dlong23 (invisible)I wanna pound that pussy n fly u out mmmm
Cam2Cam has ended
Dlong23 has logged off (reason: user left)
Dlong23 has logged on
Dlong23 has logged off (reason: user left)
Dlong23 has logged on
Dlong23 has logged off (reason: user left)
Dlong23 has logged on
Dlong23 has logged off (reason: user left)
he's been trying to keep connected but it kicks him out when it hits 41sec
he is a mobile user that likes to have his cam on
whirlerz
07-29-2022, 04:12 PM
That's so annoying! ^
Erika_Xstacy
07-29-2022, 04:57 PM
i reported him as tech issues
misspandora
07-29-2022, 05:07 PM
i reported him as tech issues
Ugh, so annoying. I had a cpl of cam2cam guys I had problems like that with not long ago.
Yesterday and tonight, tho, it's more just guys coming into free chat and asking if I do this or that, then bailing.
I don't know if they're getting booted off or what.
I'm getting pretty impatient tho. One of my pet peeves about camming is sitting in a dead room. Seems like since I came back from being off a week, this is my streamate life. Maybe they're punishing me for not logging on for a week?
whirlerz
07-29-2022, 06:30 PM
No, it's been slow.
Generally speaking, I find summer tend to be slow-ish..
+ connection issues, for customers
anonymous camgirl
07-29-2022, 08:23 PM
I'm relieved they found out why and were honest about it. I really feel they should compensate you at least something for the lost time since it was 100% Streamate's fault you lost that time and were unable to work.
Yea, I dont want to push my luck lol.. asking for anything
Strawberryblonde
07-30-2022, 07:40 AM
it will be in their video library for as long as they have THAT account.
I make members w new accounts rebuy videos
usually accounts are closed for non payment
Thank you.
MissAdriana
07-30-2022, 09:00 AM
So apparently, the reason I couldn't log on is because someone else was trying to change their name to my name? And I guess that's why they closed my account saying I was not approved performer. So I can finally log on! BACK IN BUSINESS!!.. I am so excited.. It literally took them 4 days to figure it out. Really, I already knew because the search was not showing me and it was showing a picture of someone else from a white label and I told them that as well.. but WHEW!!.. I thought I would never be able to log on again.
This disgusts me. Who cares if another model wants the same name. That should never happen. Watch now some model will change her username to the #1 model to get her shut down during the next contest. If it can happen to you it can happen to any of us. That is unacceptable. Gross.
whirlerz
07-30-2022, 09:43 AM
Well, just lost an exclusive due to connection problems..
Tbh, I did move my laptop, (btw I've a hard wire connection)
It's happened before, any slight disruption to where the cam plugs into the port fucks it up, I accidentally bump into it.
Idk if contacting support will do anything, probably not :(
Note: I see it had a window to report streaming issues, it said to get a response I have to contact on a separate thing, which I did that also
Genoveve
07-30-2022, 09:49 AM
^^^What would support do?
Dreamqueen
07-30-2022, 11:24 AM
Can anyone show me how to locate a customer's account to block him?
I've been sending out the prepaid photo messages.
One customer messaged me that he's not interested in getting any more messages from me, and to take him off of my list.
I'm concerned that if I don't, he's going to report me for spamming him, and I'll lose my ability to send out ANY messages.
Thanks in advance.
XSelinex
07-30-2022, 01:24 PM
Can anyone show me how to locate a customer's account to block him?
I've been sending out the prepaid photo messages.
One customer messaged me that he's not interested in getting any more messages from me, and to take him off of my list.
I'm concerned that if I don't, he's going to report me for spamming him, and I'll lose my ability to send out ANY messages.
Thanks in advance.
In the messenger push three dotes near his nickname, there will be block him option.
KittenGirl
07-30-2022, 02:27 PM
Well, just lost an exclusive due to connection problems..
Tbh, I did move my laptop, (btw I've a hard wire connection)
It's happened before, any slight disruption to where the cam plugs into the port fucks it up, I accidentally bump into it.
I have literally the BEST high speed, hardwired connection you can get. It's not me. It even glitched on their end
Idk if contacting support will do anything, probably not :(
Note: I see it had a window to report streaming issues, it said to get a response I have to contact on a separate thing, which I did that also
I just lost out on a $100 gold show that skyrocketed to $300 during the show. I had two people tip $100 to get the recorded video and my whole connection shit the tank. Now I have like 10 people to respond to to tell them I'm sorry and its not my fault
whirlerz
07-30-2022, 04:18 PM
I just lost out on a $100 gold show that skyrocketed to $300 during the show. I had two people tip $100 to get the recorded video and my whole connection shit the tank. Now I have like 10 people to respond to to tell them I'm sorry and its not my fault
Wow, I'm sorry, that really sucks!
I had a regular stay not that long in a show, I think it was his phone's issue tho
KittenGirl
07-30-2022, 04:26 PM
Wow, I'm sorry, that really sucks!
I had a regular stay not that long in a show, I think it was his phone's issue tho
That's terrible!! I hate that! I use to not have issues with connections but damn. Today has been rough.
I think I'm gonna hop on to another site for this week. With the connection issues and the quality of traffic I'm not really feeling the greatest.
Just to vent, i literally dropped $350 on new things everyone's been hassling me to get. New stockings, new heels, new bbc, new tip vibe, all this other shit and now those same fuckers come in and don't want to tip the measly 10g for me to use it.
The scumbags were out in full swing today and I logged off in tears. I lowered my prices, I'm not fucking lowering them anymore. I'm so damn tired of cheap fucks on this site.
whirlerz
07-30-2022, 04:35 PM
That's terrible!! I hate that! I use to not have issues with connections but damn. Today has been rough.
I think I'm gonna hop on to another site for this week. With the connection issues and the quality of traffic I'm not really feeling the greatest.
Just to vent, i literally dropped $350 on new things everyone's been hassling me to get. New stockings, new heels, new bbc, new tip vibe, all this other shit and now those same fuckers come in and don't want to tip the measly 10g for me to use it.
The scumbags were out in full swing today and I logged off in tears. I lowered my prices, I'm not fucking lowering them anymore. I'm so damn tired of cheap fucks on this site.
Nah, you know what?
I lowered mine too, it just made me work harder.. I raised em back up today, a couple days ago I bumped em up again too.
Also, I noticed on my check it looks the same, but there's a strange bank address I've never seen..
I thought I saw some post about this recently, but Idk
izshadow
07-30-2022, 07:35 PM
Is anyone else experiencing issues getting their camera to connect? The computer I just got matches all the specs that SM told me to get and is actually surpassing what I was told to get as a minimum. Anyways, I cant get my webcam or even the laptops webcam to pull up and stay up for SM but I can get it up when not on SM... it doesnt make sense. I feel so sick. I am going to just die if I have to return this.
I am going to get my other laptop in for repair to see if it can be fixed but like, I have this on here and ready to go and I cant get the cam to work! I'm so frustrated.
KittenGirl
07-30-2022, 08:09 PM
Is anyone else experiencing issues getting their camera to connect? The computer I just got matches all the specs that SM told me to get and is actually surpassing what I was told to get as a minimum. Anyways, I cant get my webcam or even the laptops webcam to pull up and stay up for SM but I can get it up when not on SM... it doesnt make sense. I feel so sick. I am going to just die if I have to return this.
I am going to get my other laptop in for repair to see if it can be fixed but like, I have this on here and ready to go and I cant get the cam to work! I'm so frustrated.
I had a lot of issues with my cam today. I had issues with it freezing and dropping connection. Be mindful that every time my cam starts fucking up, windows wants me to update
KittenGirl
07-30-2022, 08:33 PM
The difference in raising your rates. First photo is the lower rate. Second one is max rate.
I just said "fuck it. I wanna terrify the cheap assholes". Raised my rates $4 EXTRA per minute.
Got a guy that literally tipped me 120g in private.
Don't tolerate the cheap fucks. Drain them dry.
izshadow
07-30-2022, 08:41 PM
I had a lot of issues with my cam today. I had issues with it freezing and dropping connection. Be mindful that every time my cam starts fucking up, windows wants me to update
I'll check out updates. I just did a test and noticed if I dont have my cam plugged in, it picks up the laptop cam so from what I'm seeing so far, they were canceling each other out. Which shouldnt happen as I should be able to pick my cam from the drop down menu. But I'm going to go see if I can poke around and disable the laptop camera so I can use my logitech one but unless I mean, does anyone use their laptop cam succesfully?
whirlerz
07-31-2022, 06:24 AM
The difference in raising your rates. First photo is the lower rate. Second one is max rate.
I just said "fuck it. I wanna terrify the cheap assholes". Raised my rates $4 EXTRA per minute.
Got a guy that literally tipped me 120g in private.
Don't tolerate the cheap fucks. Drain them dry.
Love this, I don't work Sundays but I'm doing this
KittenGirl
07-31-2022, 07:24 AM
Love this, I don't work Sundays but I'm doing this
YES!!! I wish you lots of gold, girl!
Here's my thing about it. When I raised it, I had only been offline for about 30 minutes and got back on. My second attempt is when I raised it.
I noticed men coming in droves as usual, but leaving VERY quickly. Not even saying hi. Normally men come in and start asking a bunch of fucking stupid questions. Cheap asses ask stupid questions.
My true theory is that they see the price, and don't even wanna bother. For me, I got pissed off that a man who usually takes me pvt KNOWS I only offer c2c in pvt with a 10g tip. Exclusive is free. But he requested his cam to be turned on in like 2 seconds of the show. I reminded him, and he left.
IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD $30 TOTAL ON A GIRL WITH MY CHEAP ASS RATES GTFOH.
Men never stay longer than 3 minutes. It's so rare.
So the other part, is that when I lowered my rates, men still always wanted aggressive shit. "Slap your ass harder, I wanna see welts", "use the big toy, really fucking hard baby", "ride that cock hard"...
So when my rates were low, I was wearing myself out. So I got the tip here to start charging gold tips for harder stuff. Even only asking 10g for dildo play, no man wanted to tip for it except twice in 3 weeks.
With my rates skyrocketed, I don't have to worry about "stalling to make more money". We can jump right in. With my rates this high, I'll ride that 10" all damn night without an extra charge.
I had 5 men come in for only 2 minutes. I made $42 off of them instead of $15.
My other thing, is that tips went WILD. Most men couldn't afford me, but they tipped a handful of gold every now and then. For almost 20 minutes straight I was being tipped gold and doing fun erotic stuff like dancing and begging for their cum.
I made $166 in that 20 minutes and I didn't even get naked.
Drain them dry. Be patient. I wish you luck!
anonamiss
07-31-2022, 08:50 AM
The difference in raising your rates. First photo is the lower rate. Second one is max rate.
I just said "fuck it. I wanna terrify the cheap assholes". Raised my rates $4 EXTRA per minute.
Got a guy that literally tipped me 120g in private.
Don't tolerate the cheap fucks. Drain them dry.
What was your initial rate and what did you change it to ? ("max rate" is different among models. I can currently go to 14.99. Highest I've heard is 19.99 but I wouldn't be surprised if some are able to get it higher than that now)
KittenGirl
07-31-2022, 09:36 AM
What was your initial rate and what did you change it to ? ("max rate" is different among models. I can currently go to 14.99. Highest I've heard is 19.99 but I wouldn't be surprised if some are able to get it higher than that now)
My original rates were $4.99/$6.99. Then because I was in paid chat 70% of the time and burning myself out, I pushed it up to $7.99/$9.99 my average time in paid chat still was about 50%.
But I swear to fucking God the last contest killed everything. My percent in paid went down to 18%, so I lowered my rates down to $5.99/$8.99. It went back up to about 35% in paid chat but it took me WEEKS to get back up there.
When my rates were that rate, I kept getting a lot of men taking me pvt and multiple men would come in, which was awesome. The problem, is they ALL fucking demanded individual attention. Sure I'd make like $60 in 10 minutes, but it happened very rarely and I had men competing for C2C, and other men leaving because they weren't getting what they were wanting.
So for a few weeks my price was $5.99/$8.99 but a few days this week I logged off in tears because no matter what I did, men were only lasting 2 minutes, not wanting to pay extra for harder stuff, and being overly degrading and freeloading and asking stupid fucking questions and not tipping. It was actually Wednesday I blew up at my fucking room, literally screaming at them. I had been in free chat for three hours with no tips, no one tipping into my gold shows, and the dumbasses asking stupid questions nonstop despite having upwards of 25 people in my room.
So especially after yesterday being my final day of being fed up with it, I raised my rates to $10.99/$14.99 (my max rate). And they're staying there.
I know this was a long-winded answer, but I just wanted to give some insight as to what I dealt with during those different rate changes and what led me to eventually skyrocket it.
kortneykay
07-31-2022, 10:51 AM
YES!!! I wish you lots of gold, girl!
Here's my thing about it. When I raised it, I had only been offline for about 30 minutes and got back on. My second attempt is when I raised it.
I noticed men coming in droves as usual, but leaving VERY quickly. Not even saying hi. Normally men come in and start asking a bunch of fucking stupid questions. Cheap asses ask stupid questions.
My true theory is that they see the price, and don't even wanna bother. For me, I got pissed off that a man who usually takes me pvt KNOWS I only offer c2c in pvt with a 10g tip. Exclusive is free. But he requested his cam to be turned on in like 2 seconds of the show. I reminded him, and he left.
IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD $30 TOTAL ON A GIRL WITH MY CHEAP ASS RATES GTFOH.
Men never stay longer than 3 minutes. It's so rare.
So the other part, is that when I lowered my rates, men still always wanted aggressive shit. "Slap your ass harder, I wanna see welts", "use the big toy, really fucking hard baby", "ride that cock hard"...
So when my rates were low, I was wearing myself out. So I got the tip here to start charging gold tips for harder stuff. Even only asking 10g for dildo play, no man wanted to tip for it except twice in 3 weeks.
With my rates skyrocketed, I don't have to worry about "stalling to make more money". We can jump right in. With my rates this high, I'll ride that 10" all damn night without an extra charge.
I had 5 men come in for only 2 minutes. I made $42 off of them instead of $15.
My other thing, is that tips went WILD. Most men couldn't afford me, but they tipped a handful of gold every now and then. For almost 20 minutes straight I was being tipped gold and doing fun erotic stuff like dancing and begging for their cum.
I made $166 in that 20 minutes and I didn't even get naked.
Drain them dry. Be patient. I wish you luck!
This. I'm busy at $7.99 so what's $2 more especially because I get away w this indy? I keep pvt and exc the same price and clients always choose exc 98% of the time. Thanks to you I raised them again. I'm either going to sit there or they're going to not resist my charms and physique and spend $$$, lol.
RetroGhetto
07-31-2022, 05:44 PM
Do I carry on or climb into bed? been on 2 hours and not even $20. I know I'm fairly new but I wanna throw my laptop out the window.
KittenGirl
07-31-2022, 07:18 PM
Do I carry on or climb into bed? been on 2 hours and not even $20. I know I'm fairly new but I wanna throw my laptop out the window.
Sunday evenings are usually dead for me. Sometimes I wish I could watch other models live to see if I can offer any advice.
If it's killing your mood, log off.
anonamiss
07-31-2022, 08:19 PM
My original rates were $4.99/$6.99. Then because I was in paid chat 70% of the time and burning myself out, I pushed it up to $7.99/$9.99 my average time in paid chat still was about 50%.
But I swear to fucking God the last contest killed everything. My percent in paid went down to 18%, so I lowered my rates down to $5.99/$8.99. It went back up to about 35% in paid chat but it took me WEEKS to get back up there.
When my rates were that rate, I kept getting a lot of men taking me pvt and multiple men would come in, which was awesome. The problem, is they ALL fucking demanded individual attention. Sure I'd make like $60 in 10 minutes, but it happened very rarely and I had men competing for C2C, and other men leaving because they weren't getting what they were wanting.
So for a few weeks my price was $5.99/$8.99 but a few days this week I logged off in tears because no matter what I did, men were only lasting 2 minutes, not wanting to pay extra for harder stuff, and being overly degrading and freeloading and asking stupid fucking questions and not tipping. It was actually Wednesday I blew up at my fucking room, literally screaming at them. I had been in free chat for three hours with no tips, no one tipping into my gold shows, and the dumbasses asking stupid questions nonstop despite having upwards of 25 people in my room.
So especially after yesterday being my final day of being fed up with it, I raised my rates to $10.99/$14.99 (my max rate). And they're staying there.
I know this was a long-winded answer, but I just wanted to give some insight as to what I dealt with during those different rate changes and what led me to eventually skyrocket it.
i appreciate the detailed response! i've been at 6.99/9.99 for years and haven't experimented other than maybe a dollar less for a few weeks during utmost slow/desperate periods. i do decently/hit consistent hourly averages most nights, and occasionally have really awful or really great outliers. i'm generally satisfied with my income but am always wondering if i'm seriously missing out on making way more if i raised my rates.
i'm curious, do you have a lot of regulars giving you any pushback for the drastic raise? i am not worried about what new guys would think of higher rates, but i am concerned i'd lose good exclusive regulars because they're so used to paying a certain amount. i am particularly afraid to go higher into the "double digit" rate territory (10+ a min) as i fear it will trigger some negative financial psychology (sort of like how x.00 is often perceived as a less attractive price than x.99).
fetishqueen
08-01-2022, 02:51 AM
i appreciate the detailed response! i've been at 6.99/9.99 for years and haven't experimented other than maybe a dollar less for a few weeks during utmost slow/desperate periods. i do decently/hit consistent hourly averages most nights, and occasionally have really awful or really great outliers. i'm generally satisfied with my income but am always wondering if i'm seriously missing out on making way more if i raised my rates.
i'm curious, do you have a lot of regulars giving you any pushback for the drastic raise? i am not worried about what new guys would think of higher rates, but i am concerned i'd lose good exclusive regulars because they're so used to paying a certain amount. i am particularly afraid to go higher into the "double digit" rate territory (10+ a min) as i fear it will trigger some negative financial psychology (sort of like how x.00 is often perceived as a less attractive price than x.99).
You make a really good point here and it's such a difficult balance. We work hard to gain regulars and it then becomes difficult to essentially say 'fuck you' to them by raising prices. But in another respect, being loyal to those regulars can also hold you back. I was cheap on Adultwork for a long long time, staying loyal and I did okay. But when I decided to put more effort into SM, knowing it had a lot more potential, I finally raised my prices on AW far beyond what they would pay, essentially saying fuck you to my regs on AW so that if they DID pay, great, I made more per min than on SM. If they didn't, it didn't matter because I was spending more time and effort on SM. And you know what? I did a lot better by doing that.
So I guess the thing is that for me to finally raise my prices on AW, I had to be making most of my money elsewhere and not care what I made on AW. I make far far less now on AW at higher prices than I did when I was cheap. But I don't care, I do better on SM.
This is a different scenario to kitten's of course. I think raising prices on SM is different to AW because you can still earn in tips and other things in free. And SM is much better (for me) than AW for that reason.
I think I might give myself a day to raise prices on SM to my max ($15.99 I think) and just see what happens. I'd really like to know!
FloridaSunDoll
08-01-2022, 07:44 AM
i appreciate the detailed response! i've been at 6.99/9.99 for years and haven't experimented other than maybe a dollar less for a few weeks during utmost slow/desperate periods. i do decently/hit consistent hourly averages most nights, and occasionally have really awful or really great outliers. i'm generally satisfied with my income but am always wondering if i'm seriously missing out on making way more if i raised my rates.
i'm curious, do you have a lot of regulars giving you any pushback for the drastic raise? i am not worried about what new guys would think of higher rates, but i am concerned i'd lose good exclusive regulars because they're so used to paying a certain amount. i am particularly afraid to go higher into the "double digit" rate territory (10+ a min) as i fear it will trigger some negative financial psychology (sort of like how x.00 is often perceived as a less attractive price than x.99).
My prices have been maxed for a long time now (10.99 & 14.99) after a big jump in prices and I was also nervous at first about how my regulars would react. A couple regs mentioned it at first but beyond that I honestly don’t think I’ve lost any good paying regs over it. It also helps me push my gold shows which usually my regs wouldn’t be interested in but when they see the amount they save they are more willing to chip in a big chunk. I still charge extra for pretty much any and all toys and they don’t complain
ETA I upped my prices so much to try to weed out a certain clientele (the grab all your toys and do everything as fast as you can guys) and I must admit it definitely worked
KittenGirl
08-01-2022, 08:06 AM
i appreciate the detailed response! i've been at 6.99/9.99 for years and haven't experimented other than maybe a dollar less for a few weeks during utmost slow/desperate periods. i do decently/hit consistent hourly averages most nights, and occasionally have really awful or really great outliers. i'm generally satisfied with my income but am always wondering if i'm seriously missing out on making way more if i raised my rates.
i'm curious, do you have a lot of regulars giving you any pushback for the drastic raise? i am not worried about what new guys would think of higher rates, but i am concerned i'd lose good exclusive regulars because they're so used to paying a certain amount. i am particularly afraid to go higher into the "double digit" rate territory (10+ a min) as i fear it will trigger some negative financial psychology (sort of like how x.00 is often perceived as a less attractive price than x.99).
I'm so grateful to hear your thoughts. I think I can answer these concerns.
I've treated my regulars so well that they come in and tell me I am WORTHY of more. I don't just send out mass PPV messages. I send out messages of a selfie at the auto shop and say "Baby, thank you SO much! Because of your support, I could finally afford new tires!" I engage in conversation with them off the site, ask them how they're doing, etc. I let them know I'm not just some brat (unless that's your thing) yanking all their money away. I send photos of me going out to eat saying, "I am so grateful for your generosity! I got to try this 5 star Spanish restaurant I've been wanting to try for YEARS!"
Now, there are SOME regulars who can't afford "my more" necessarily. But I haven't had any pushback at all. All they do, is they support me by tipping into my gold shows, buying my little PPV things and tipping me during free chat. After a few paychecks of theirs they take me private.
But in all honesty, you are a gem. I took a male cam model (who's fucking hot) exclusive and dropped $100 on him easily. Watching him do what I wanted him to do was so relaxing. He was so calm, so chill, so natural. He didn't freak out trying to go overly hard or move his body too much to "impress me" or to "rush the experience". I learned a lot from him.
One could say, "well he's $2.99/minute. We're $8.99/minute". Yes that's true. But he was Columbian. His economy is poorer than ours. He's essentially charging what we charge for his local economy. Not to mention, we have A LOT more to do. We have to buy far more toys, have supreme setup, lighting, hair, makeup, heels, costumes, lube. It goes on.
Escorts can make anywhere from $350-$1,200 an hour. But they're not required to get naked or perform sexual favors for you. We do. Porn stars make anywhere from $790 for a g/g scene to $2,000 for a g/b scene. Why are we cutting ourselves so low, thinking that at $8/minute for $480 spent on us in an hour is "too much"?
We are not roughed up prostitutes that are willing to suck dick for 10 buck trick to get a crack fix.
We are beautiful women.
We are a rarity in society.
We perform the deepest desires that their wives/girlfriends won't do.
We are personalized porn stars.
Let me put it another way. The man who's complaining about your future $10.99/min prices has a high chance of having a $1000 cell phone. He maybe drops $100/week on pot/cigarettes, maybe more. Or he goes out on the weekends and drops $120 on happy hour without a thought. He buys $300 worth of endzone seat tickets without a thought. Without a thought he drops $600 on a gaming system.
So why is it, that when he comes to YOU, he throws a fit and says "you're too expensive"? There's no fucking reason. Other than he believes you are not worth it. It shows he does not value a woman, only his entitlement.
I refuse to pander to that anymore. If a man doesn't believe I'm worth more or at least the same as a fucking gaming system, I do not want that bitch in my room.
I'm a luxury just like all those other things.
I'm not a fucking necessity.
As far as being concerned about losing regulars, others will replace them. They either love and still want to be a part of your entertainment or they move on. But everyone's replaceable. That's how I feel.
I'm sorry for the long response again, just had to say everything :)
KittenGirl
08-01-2022, 08:18 AM
You make a really good point here and it's such a difficult balance. We work hard to gain regulars and it then becomes difficult to essentially say 'fuck you' to them by raising prices. But in another respect, being loyal to those regulars can also hold you back. I was cheap on Adultwork for a long long time, staying loyal and I did okay. But when I decided to put more effort into SM, knowing it had a lot more potential, I finally raised my prices on AW far beyond what they would pay, essentially saying fuck you to my regs on AW so that if they DID pay, great, I made more per min than on SM. If they didn't, it didn't matter because I was spending more time and effort on SM. And you know what? I did a lot better by doing that.
So I guess the thing is that for me to finally raise my prices on AW, I had to be making most of my money elsewhere and not care what I made on AW. I make far far less now on AW at higher prices than I did when I was cheap. But I don't care, I do better on SM.
This is a different scenario to kitten's of course. I think raising prices on SM is different to AW because you can still earn in tips and other things in free. And SM is much better (for me) than AW for that reason.
I think I might give myself a day to raise prices on SM to my max ($15.99 I think) and just see what happens. I'd really like to know!
When you said "being loyal to those customers can also hold you back" is so true.
Businesses everywhere raise their prices every year or so. Why don't we? It's not 2010 anymore.
whirlerz
08-01-2022, 09:43 AM
This last section of the thread has inspired me to raise again!
TY all!:-*:heartbeat
naughtybabe1
08-01-2022, 10:31 AM
There are some REALLY good points in these last few posts about raising your rates. I'm really going to think about it. I'm always worried about loosing regs. Maybe I'll try it during a really "slow period" like from 1am to 4am one night and see how it goes. I might do it tonight!
AuroraJade
08-01-2022, 12:03 PM
I upped them now to 7.99/9.99. Im also afraid to raise above 10/min but on the other side, EU and UK customers already see that rate as above 10/min... Im afraid to raise more bc I think my lighting isn't that great at the moment (but which guy really pays attention to that, as long as he can see me?) and my paid percentage is only 25-30 on an average day but I push a lot for free chat tips. But some days I so really get burned out because customers keep getting more demanding with the penetration and stuff... Yikes
Genoveve
08-01-2022, 12:26 PM
Is anyone else experiencing issues getting their camera to connect? The computer I just got matches all the specs that SM told me to get and is actually surpassing what I was told to get as a minimum. Anyways, I cant get my webcam or even the laptops webcam to pull up and stay up for SM but I can get it up when not on SM... it doesnt make sense. I feel so sick. I am going to just die if I have to return this.
I am going to get my other laptop in for repair to see if it can be fixed but like, I have this on here and ready to go and I cant get the cam to work! I'm so frustrated.
If you have Windows 11, when I got new laptops with Windows 11 one of my webcams and one of my mouses(mice?) would not work with them, support told me it was a common Windows 11 issue. If you have any other webcams test them on it for possible compatibility.
misspandora
08-01-2022, 04:23 PM
Watch out for this guy BigSteve327. He went into my room and just started typing 1 word insults like "trash", "slut" etc. Took me a few minutes to block him
whirlerz
08-01-2022, 09:24 PM
What's up w/the new agreement we have to sign, maybe they should have the customers sign one too, all the taboo request I get, I'm sure they do.
anonymous camgirl
08-01-2022, 09:28 PM
Nobody amends a performer contract more than Streamate.. my gosh.. I do not have to constantly sign new agreements on other sites. Why are they so difficult?
KittenGirl
08-01-2022, 09:31 PM
What's up w/the new agreement we have to sign, maybe they should have the customers sign one too, all the taboo request I get, I'm sure they do.
I actually wrote that in the discord server. Like... wtf?
whirlerz
08-01-2022, 09:48 PM
I just now got an insistent taboo request that I blocked.
Now just blocked a meet in person jerk, TF?