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anonamiss
08-24-2022, 02:10 PM
Oh my God. I really hope something pulls through for you! I may start a petition to have streamate stop contests. This is horrible. I usually, even on my slowest days make about $30/hr. Where yes it's much lower than normal but it's much higher than being paid elsewhere. But this time it's $14/hr is my average this week

No offense but why would SM consider a petition from a bunch of low earning models to stop their obviously highly lucrative contests?

No one who is making top dollars on SM wants the contests to stop. They aren't going to listen to the girls making $15/hour when they have top models making like $20k in a week.

I generally think petitions are bullshit but if you really wanted to try to get one going, I'd make it a more reasonable compromise, like a petition for 6 contests a year or something.

SapphireXO
08-24-2022, 02:13 PM
Oh the joy... SM's whitelabel site literally posted ALL 205 videos of mine FOR FREE on Jerkmate.com. Yes I reported this to Liz as a DMCA takedown request back in July when there was less than 10. Now they decided to add my entire PPV library... I sent ANOTHER email today. FFS.

kamiliam
08-24-2022, 02:52 PM
If I was going to sign a petition it would be for sm to be more transparent about whatever the fuck is going on and what they are doing. A lot of this has to do with losing pornhub money yes? Do they have a plan? Just depending on established performers to bring their customers to the site from their white label? That percentage is gonna suddenly be iffy to me if they are not providing traffic sources.

EllePurrs
08-24-2022, 03:07 PM
If I was going to sign a petition it would be for sm to be more transparent about whatever the fuck is going on and what they are doing. A lot of this has to do with losing pornhub money yes? Do they have a plan? Just depending on established performers to bring their customers to the site from their white label? That percentage is gonna suddenly be iffy to me if they are not providing traffic sources.

Mindgeek/TrafficJunky still has Discover and crypto payments as far as I know.

But yes, I truly wish SM was more transparent to all of us. I feel like I only get answers if I bother individual employees/affiliates and that's not helpful for anyone and probably wastes their time too if they have to answer over and over.

kamiliam
08-24-2022, 03:11 PM
Mindgeek/TrafficJunky still has Discover and crypto payments as far as I know.

But yes, I truly wish SM was more transparent to all of us. I feel like I only get answers if I bother individual employees/affiliates and that's not helpful for anyone and probably wastes their time too if they have to answer over and over.


That still takes out a huge chuck of the market. Not to mention all the bad press

Erika_Xstacy
08-24-2022, 04:26 PM
Pornhub is still generates traffic for streamate

there are 4500 or more whitelabels.....

kamiliam
08-24-2022, 04:35 PM
Pornhub is still generates traffic for streamate

there are 4500 or more whitelabels.....

Absolutely.

It’s changed though. We used to be featured on their homepage with the videos. Now you have to click on a mirror site in a separate window. Guys who have accounts aren’t the problem, wherever they log in is where they log in. Catching new traffic is what makes 35% worth it.

Erika_Xstacy
08-24-2022, 04:57 PM
Absolutely.

It’s changed though. We used to be featured on their homepage with the videos. Now you have to click on a mirror site in a separate window. Guys who have accounts aren’t the problem, wherever they log in is where they log in. Catching new traffic is what makes 35% worth it.

I would think it's safe to say not being featured on pornhub is pornhubs doing, whoever controls their site build

kamiliam
08-24-2022, 05:06 PM
I would think it's safe to say not being featured on pornhub is pornhubs doing, whoever controls their site build

Agreed but it is up to sm to find a replacement. Again if they want to move to a more model self driven traffic site totally chill just not for me at that percentage point.

Pornhub had the most mainstream name recognition. Their downfall is definitely something that effects us given their previous partnership.

KittenGirl
08-24-2022, 05:09 PM
It's generally frowned upon here to publicly list the names of sites where guys can watch our shit for free, consider editing it out and just PM people who want the info.

Related note: I have had 100% success getting all of my recordings from that site removed by emailing Liz with a list of direct links. They were all full length gold shows. I check that site frequently to see if any new ones have been recorded but I haven't seen one in over a year. I also found duplicates of those shows on other sites, which are relatively easy to find because they usually put your name in the title. Use Google and go to the "video" function of the search engine and type your cam name in quotations. Then make a list of all the links you can find and email them to Liz for a DMCA request. I'd advise not sending a bunch of individual links and actually take the time to search and compile as many as you can find so she/her team can do them all at once. I do it about twice a year and they've gotten 98% of my requests taken down everywhere.

Thanks for the info. Didn't know that. I edited my comment

KittenGirl
08-24-2022, 05:13 PM
No offense but why would SM consider a petition from a bunch of low earning models to stop their obviously highly lucrative contests?

No one who is making top dollars on SM wants the contests to stop. They aren't going to listen to the girls making $15/hour when they have top models making like $20k in a week.

I generally think petitions are bullshit but if you really wanted to try to get one going, I'd make it a more reasonable compromise, like a petition for 6 contests a year or something.

Well, I am one of the top earning, at least I thought. No offense taken. I usually earn about $150-$240/hr. Now I'm nowhere near $20,000 a week and I definitely DON'T think the contests should stop completely.

But damn. I thought I was a top earner. My recent paychecks have been over $3,000. This is definitely not a high earner obviously. I thought that those $10,000+ a week girls were practically nonexistent, a pipe dream. After reading your comment I understand completely

anonamiss
08-24-2022, 05:49 PM
Well, I am one of the top earning, at least I thought. No offense taken. I usually earn about $150-$240/hr. Now I'm nowhere near $20,000 a week and I definitely DON'T think the contests should stop completely.

But damn. I thought I was a top earner. My recent paychecks have been over $3,000. This is definitely not a high earner obviously. I thought that those $10,000+ a week girls were practically nonexistent, a pipe dream. After reading your comment I understand completely

My bad, I must have misunderstood the comment of yours that I replied to. Sounded like you wanted the contests gone, and were making 15-30/hr during them so I figured your normal average was more like double. If you normally pull 150-240/hr and you're doing literally 10 times worse than that on contest week that is really unfortunate. I've never had *that* drastic of a shift in earnings around glitches or contests and it does make me wonder why some girls seem to get hit so much harder than others.

But also, 3k a week is most certainly still high earning and waaaaay above the average model. Don't knock yourself or your efforts. The 10k+ a week girls *are* rare, I'm guessing it's probably the top 15 or 20? girls in a contest out of the thousands of models on SM. Someone chimed in to this thread a few days ago saying it takes $4-5000+ to place in the Top 50 of a week long contest, and I saved a screenshot someone shared from a 2020 contest earnings page where the model made $9500 and was ranked like #11. Based on past contest trends/data the minimum threshold to reach a certain rank seems to go up over time, so I'm assuming at least one or a few are now pulling 20k or very close.

I'll add one more thing, which is that the screenshot I was referencing shows that the model averaged $135/hour but put in almost 70 hours of time online. I think a lot of the top models are actually averaging similar hourly rates as some of us who make "less" overall, but they put in an insane amount more hours.

bigbum
08-24-2022, 10:48 PM
Oh the joy... SM's whitelabel site literally posted ALL 205 videos of mine FOR FREE on Jerkmate.com. Yes I reported this to Liz as a DMCA takedown request back in July when there was less than 10. Now they decided to add my entire PPV library... I sent ANOTHER email today. FFS.

i would also advise blocking any user name that enters your room that says "jerkmate" or something like that or pornhub
i always do that just to be on the safe side

SapphireXO
08-25-2022, 12:45 PM
Insane! I've been logged in for 3.5 hours. Premium front page placement (row #1 or row #2) and NO SHOWS!

emkato
08-25-2022, 01:21 PM
Insane! I've been logged in for 3.5 hours. Premium front page placement (row #1 or row #2) and NO SHOWS!

Insane is right! I'm smack dab in the middle of the front page, 3 hours online and I've only made $16. Is this a joke? like..? lol

Erika_Xstacy
08-25-2022, 03:06 PM
Agreed but it is up to sm to find a replacement. Again if they want to move to a more model self driven traffic site totally chill just not for me at that percentage point.

Pornhub had the most mainstream name recognition. Their downfall is definitely something that effects us given their previous partnership.

but if you use your cammodels link... lol Im just kidding.
it is pornhubs popularity and there is no site like it

Luci Fer
08-25-2022, 08:01 PM
but if you use your cammodels link... lol Im just kidding.
it is pornhubs popularity and there is no site like it

Erika, I think I missed the news..why SM doesnt collaborate with Pornhub anymore? And since when?

Erika_Xstacy
08-25-2022, 08:14 PM
Erika, I think I missed the news..why SM doesnt collaborate with Pornhub anymore? And since when?

pornhub is still a whitelabel

we are talking about the how pornhub displays/markets us and how customers didn't have to log into a external site making it one more step for customers.

VVV
08-25-2022, 10:38 PM
Insane is right! I'm smack dab in the middle of the front page, 3 hours online and I've only made $16. Is this a joke? like..? lol

good to know lol i do not take it personally :) damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

i also increased my rates. anyway is slow at least i get paid more if i got shows! 1$ more on pvt and excl

Hersheykissed
08-26-2022, 10:26 AM
So is traffic going to mysteriously come back once contest ends tomorrow lol.

emkato
08-26-2022, 10:28 AM
the scan the site does before we are approved to stream is such a joke lol. its not even legit. I stepped out of frame completely and it approved my chair.

Sersay
08-26-2022, 12:27 PM
My bad, I must have misunderstood the comment of yours that I replied to. Sounded like you wanted the contests gone, and were making 15-30/hr during them so I figured your normal average was more like double. If you normally pull 150-240/hr and you're doing literally 10 times worse than that on contest week that is really unfortunate. I've never had *that* drastic of a shift in earnings around glitches or contests and it does make me wonder why some girls seem to get hit so much harder than others.

But also, 3k a week is most certainly still high earning and waaaaay above the average model. Don't knock yourself or your efforts. The 10k+ a week girls *are* rare, I'm guessing it's probably the top 15 or 20? girls in a contest out of the thousands of models on SM. Someone chimed in to this thread a few days ago saying it takes $4-5000+ to place in the Top 50 of a week long contest, and I saved a screenshot someone shared from a 2020 contest earnings page where the model made $9500 and was ranked like #11. Based on past contest trends/data the minimum threshold to reach a certain rank seems to go up over time, so I'm assuming at least one or a few are now pulling 20k or very close.

I'll add one more thing, which is that the screenshot I was referencing shows that the model averaged $135/hour but put in almost 70 hours of time online. I think a lot of the top models are actually averaging similar hourly rates as some of us who make "less" overall, but they put in an insane amount more hours.

I highly doubt somebody makes 20k, yesterday with 800$ I jumped from 100 something to 50 something. With 3k I am at 60 something as of today. I think 10k would definitely brings you to the top 3 where you most likely will know how much you need for this #1
But if you put something like 70 hours to get there, most likely you gonna rest for a week or so afterwards. In that case you’ll have to divide that gold by 2 or so. With this kind of math I see the point of working crazy hours for something like 15k but for the middles like me, somewhere between 50-100 not so much

bobsandvangene
08-26-2022, 12:33 PM
I highly doubt somebody makes 20k, yesterday with 800$ I jumped from 100 something to 50 something. With 3k I am at 60 something as of today. I think 10k would definitely brings you to the top 3 where you most likely will know how much you need for this #1
But if you put something like 70 hours to get there, most likely you gonna rest for a week or so afterwards. In that case you’ll have to divide that gold by 2 or so. With this kind of math I see the point of working crazy hours for something like 15k but for the middles like me, somewhere between 50-100 not so much

THIS!! People need to go easy on themselves during competition week because most of the time the top earning models don’t cam very much when there isn’t a contest - creating the whole “did you miss me” thing where clients then spend more. They then take a few weeks or a week off and don’t cam, and just live off the contest money for a while. So technically, “normal” models make just as much as they do, just spread over a more consistent time frame. Which is why I hate comparing myself to top earners ��

Erika_Xstacy
08-26-2022, 12:36 PM
the scan the site does before we are approved to stream is such a joke lol. its not even legit. I stepped out of frame completely and it approved my chair.


i think they manually review it

i've been kicked out of shows and forced to do a reverification after being online for a few minutes

anonamiss
08-26-2022, 01:35 PM
I highly doubt somebody makes 20k, yesterday with 800$ I jumped from 100 something to 50 something. With 3k I am at 60 something as of today. I think 10k would definitely brings you to the top 3 where you most likely will know how much you need for this #1
But if you put something like 70 hours to get there, most likely you gonna rest for a week or so afterwards. In that case you’ll have to divide that gold by 2 or so. With this kind of math I see the point of working crazy hours for something like 15k but for the middles like me, somewhere between 50-100 not so much

20k was a number i admittedly threw out there; i just know there have been past contests where 10k still isn't enough to rank in the top spots. i also have no clue how much someone needs to jump from say, number 4 to number 3. i figure the higher the rank, the more drastic the amount is needed to move up. the lower you are the easier it is to climb.

i don't doubt the rare possibility of a 20k paycheck though, especially if you include the contest prizes. but even without that, consider that there are top models who are popular on other platforms like Onlyfans or are well known porn stars with their own fanbase. surely they have brought some of their own traffic to SM which means they get to keep 75% of transactions from a portion of their customer base instead of 35%. with that in mind I could reasonably see a few of them getting close to a 20k week. though like you said i'm sure the amount of hours takes a huge toll and they likely take a big chunk of time off.

at the end of the day i don't care and am not personally comparing myself or letting it affect me or my hustle in any way; i'm a fairly lazy model that only works part time and could never compete with top earners. i'm in the top 500 right now and i'll be happy to get a couple hundred bucks prize for putting in about 25 hours this week. but i am still fascinated by the earning potential of some models and what it takes to get there. i love when people post about earnings purely because i'm curious, and sometimes it is a nice motivator to try to push myself even a little bit harder.

Sersay
08-26-2022, 02:23 PM
20k was a number i admittedly threw out there; i just know there have been past contests where 10k still isn't enough to rank in the top spots. i also have no clue how much someone needs to jump from say, number 4 to number 3. i figure the higher the rank, the more drastic the amount is needed to move up. the lower you are the easier it is to climb.

i don't doubt the rare possibility of a 20k paycheck though, especially if you include the contest prizes. but even without that, consider that there are top models who are popular on other platforms like Onlyfans or are well known porn stars with their own fanbase. surely they have brought some of their own traffic to SM which means they get to keep 75% of transactions from a portion of their customer base instead of 35%. with that in mind I could reasonably see a few of them getting close to a 20k week. though like you said i'm sure the amount of hours takes a huge toll and they likely take a big chunk of time off.

at the end of the day i don't care and am not personally comparing myself or letting it affect me or my hustle in any way; i'm a fairly lazy model that only works part time and could never compete with top earners. i'm in the top 500 right now and i'll be happy to get a couple hundred bucks prize for putting in about 25 hours this week. but i am still fascinated by the earning potential of some models and what it takes to get there. i love when people post about earnings purely because i'm curious, and sometimes it is a nice motivator to try to push myself even a little bit harder.


Absolutely! I believe in that 20k if we include contest prize and 75% from ur dudes in it! I think ladies with 200$ average can make it up there. If you can put hours without damaging quality you golden

emkato
08-26-2022, 02:50 PM
i think they manually review it

i've been kicked out of shows and forced to do a reverification after being online for a few minutes

It didn't make me reverify at all after testing it with just my chair in the frame. I refreshed the page and took another picture without me in the frame and streamed for a while with no reverification request. Weird, who knows tbh.

bigbum
08-27-2022, 01:46 AM
I highly doubt somebody makes 20k, yesterday with 800$ I jumped from 100 something to 50 something. With 3k I am at 60 something as of today. I think 10k would definitely brings you to the top 3 where you most likely will know how much you need for this #1
But if you put something like 70 hours to get there, most likely you gonna rest for a week or so afterwards. In that case you’ll have to divide that gold by 2 or so. With this kind of math I see the point of working crazy hours for something like 15k but for the middles like me, somewhere between 50-100 not so much

yes this is my exact thinking with the contest. I usually just aim for the top 100 to 200. I don't try to go for the top 50 or 75 or less because it would burn me out completely for the next week. id most likely take off 3 or 4 days. id rather take off 1 or 2 days at most and start fresh.

what is most impressive are models who can push for the top 50 or less and then log on and work the other weeks of the month and only take a few days off.
member Floridasundoll gets crazy kudos for being able to do that!
I also think that building up bit by bit helps a lot
a few years ago only able to do 2 hour shifts and be so burnt out. but I have slowly built my hourly rate and my ability to stay online longer and work more days out of the week without burning out or working too much.
to me personally it isn't work the extra hours for the contest. however I technically SHOULD have this week gone to what I call "burn out" because I have my period coming up.
but my period won't start until Wednesday, so id like to get top 100s and still work sun, mon, Tuesday. to me that had more value than aiming for the top 30 literally just as you stated.

Luckygoldfish
08-27-2022, 05:03 AM
God dammit! I can’t work in these conditions. It’s quite then suddenly a wave of traffic and I collected amazing golds in a gold show and boom it disconnects just few seconds before the show finishes. It happened so many times this week. I feel
Outrages and quite angry with the website this week.. I might just have a look at stripchat and mfc and see how the things are there

Luckygoldfish
08-27-2022, 05:08 AM
I reads your posts . No they shouldn’t stop contests no way , it’s huge motivation for many models who rank high which hold majority of $$ anyway , but what they should do is stop doing upgrades/updates during the contest so we can just enjoy the healthy competition without fucking tech issues. Just take a site for maintenance for a day or so and announce it before would be way better
I made so far over 5000$ in 35 hours and I am close to top 20. Without contest $/ hour is way higher that for sure but there are lots of models online as well
I made 2000$ on Sunday in 10 hours which is good but the rest of the week is quite dreadful

Luckygoldfish
08-27-2022, 05:15 AM
No offense but why would SM consider a petition from a bunch of low earning models to stop their obviously highly lucrative contests?

No one who is making top dollars on SM wants the contests to stop. They aren't going to listen to the girls making $15/hour when they have top models making like $20k in a week.

That’s totally correct

I generally think petitions are bullshit but if you really wanted to try to get one going, I'd make it a more reasonable compromise, like a petition for 6 contests a year or something.

That’s totally correct, however I still love contest , no way I would stream so many hours in totally glitchy conditions nor other high top earners

Luckygoldfish
08-27-2022, 05:18 AM
Most I ever done was 12500$ (70 hours though) In a long week contest and I placed third . So pretty sure 20 k is real number for the firs place. 10 000 is top 5
Nowadays it’s 180-200$/hour for me in non contest week abd around 130/hour in contest week ( but mostly because if Sundays only good contest days)
I dunno if it’s make whole picture more clear or not хх
I got older and lower in energy and can’t do 60-70 hours anymore lol

Dreamqueen
08-27-2022, 07:49 AM
Oh the joy... SM's whitelabel site literally posted ALL 205 videos of mine FOR FREE on Jerkmate.com. Yes I reported this to Liz as a DMCA takedown request back in July when there was less than 10. Now they decided to add my entire PPV library... I sent ANOTHER email today. FFS.


I just did a search and they did that with my entire PPV videos too!
They are charging much less than I do.
Probably explains why my video sales are down, because these are sold on all of my platforms. I filmed them on my own time, NOT using SM recorder.
Edit to add: Another thing that I noticed while doing a search for my cam name, is that the small town I live in is listed.
That's nice.::)

Sersay
08-27-2022, 10:01 AM
Most I ever done was 12500$ (70 hours though) In a long week contest and I placed third . So pretty sure 20 k is real number for the firs place. 10 000 is top 5
Nowadays it’s 180-200$/hour for me in non contest week abd around 130/hour in contest week ( but mostly because if Sundays only good contest days)
I dunno if it’s make whole picture more clear or not хх
I got older and lower in energy and can’t do 60-70 hours anymore lol

it’s crystal clear! Thank you for sharing!
All I can say is a huge respect and admiration to you and all hard working woman up there! Even those 10 hours on sundays! When I go 200/hr 5 hours would be my top , if I do 8 most likely I won’t be full speed day after… anyway it’s a whole dif conversation
Congrats on ur top 20!

bobsandvangene
08-27-2022, 10:14 AM
I reads your posts . No they shouldn’t stop contests no way , it’s huge motivation for many models who rank high which hold majority of $$ anyway , but what they should do is stop doing upgrades/updates during the contest so we can just enjoy the healthy competition without fucking tech issues. Just take a site for maintenance for a day or so and announce it before would be way better
I made so far over 5000$ in 35 hours and I am close to top 20. Without contest $/ hour is way higher that for sure but there are lots of models online as well
I made 2000$ on Sunday in 10 hours which is good but the rest of the week is quite dreadful

You’re amazing for doing 35 hours when I do 15-20 a week and end up sleeping for an entire weekend hahaha!

laurielegs
08-27-2022, 12:13 PM
Oh the joy... SM's whitelabel site literally posted ALL 205 videos of mine FOR FREE on Jerkmate.com. Yes I reported this to Liz as a DMCA takedown request back in July when there was less than 10. Now they decided to add my entire PPV library... I sent ANOTHER email today. FFS.

OK I freaked out when I checked because every single one of my PPV library are there too, but then when I click to try to watch, it only shows a 9 second preview (with a blurred out filter so you can't even see the preview clearly) then redirects to a Join page. I don't think they get to watch unless they join streamate and purchase like any other viewer.

If I'm wrong I'll be removing all my vids from Streamate, but I think it's just an advertising ploy. Do your PPV vids have the blur filter when you click them from jerkmate?


edited to add - Because the jerkmate profile had my videos listed as "free" I went ahead and signed up for an account through Jerkmate to see if I could watch any of my own vids free. I had to give a debit card in order to access the site. I searched my cam name and clicked one of my supposedly free videos and it took me to a page to buy it, full price, same as I charge on my profile.

I haven't had a SM account for awhile because several years ago they kept cancelling mine a few days after I opened it (I guess because they cross referenced and saw I'm a model and don't spend?)

Some things I learned - you can't sign up with an empty prepaid card, tried it and it declined. They preauthorize your card for $2 automatically. If you don't pay attention on signup it automatically signs you up for a weird dating site for around $15 a month. You have to uncheck the box or it charges you for that. Also interesting is it gave me an initial daily limit of $150 and told me to contact support to raise it. I'm glad I made the account. It's helpful to see what a customer sees on their side.

I don't see any location listed on my profile. That's concerning that yours is showing a city.

ugh.... How annoying. They disabled my login for my customer account and permanently banned me just now from making a customer account with no reason given. wtf Does Streamate not allow us to have a customer account?

anonamiss
08-27-2022, 02:00 PM
i just did a google video search of my stagename and found a site with about a dozen recordings of what look like full gold shows, but they are all behind a private access wall that is only available to "members." based on the thumbnail, some shows look recent and some are like six years old, but they all seem to have been posted there in the last month.

i'm not sure if it's a streamate affiliate or not but i just sent a DMCA request email to Liz with all of the links listed and I got a quick response saying "requests to remove have been sent." so we will see if it works.

if you'd like to know the website name, feel free to message me.

anonamiss
08-27-2022, 02:13 PM
Edit to add: Another thing that I noticed while doing a search for my cam name, is that the small town I live in is listed.
That's nice.::)

whoa that is not okay! i just looked up my profile and it has all the same info as my regular streamate profile but there is no location listed.

Hersheykissed
08-27-2022, 06:14 PM
And……. Just like that. Back to 100/hr. It’s almost like they were hiding during contest lol

h0ttie
08-27-2022, 07:53 PM
does anyone do below the belt nudity in only exclusive?
i think i am going to start because of the peakers...
also anyone kno if sm remove bad ratings if u put that u only do below the belt nudity in excl ?

whirlerz
08-27-2022, 09:18 PM
does anyone do below the belt nudity in only exclusive?
i think i am going to start because of the peakers...
also anyone kno if sm remove bad ratings if u put that u only do below the belt nudity in excl ?

Hi!
Great seeing you!

I always ask (& get) bad ratings removed! :)

h0ttie
08-27-2022, 09:59 PM
Hi!
Great seeing you!

I always ask (& get) bad ratings removed! :)

awee u too girl!! we have been camming 4ever lol

but do u get them removed even if its over their length limit?

whirlerz
08-28-2022, 12:16 AM
awee u too girl!! we have been camming 4ever lol

but do u get them removed even if its over their length limit?

Yes!

I did, (I asked), & they removed 'em.

kortneykay
08-29-2022, 09:45 AM
THIS!! People need to go easy on themselves during competition week because most of the time the top earning models don’t cam very much when there isn’t a contest - creating the whole “did you miss me” thing where clients then spend more. They then take a few weeks or a week off and don’t cam, and just live off the contest money for a while. So technically, “normal” models make just as much as they do, just spread over a more consistent time frame. Which is why I hate comparing myself to top earners ��

I'm not a contest model but you called out my cam style, lmao. I will hustle content and non performance sw like passive sext and phone income on my weeks off. The whole miss me hustle really works though because all my clients chase me down.

KittenGirl
08-29-2022, 10:40 AM
I'm not a contest model but you called out my cam style, lmao. I will hustle content and non performance sw like passive sext and phone income on my weeks off. The whole miss me hustle really works though because all my clients chase me down.

You really do make a point. I had to take two weeks off during the time streamate accidentally shut my account down. Finally got back on and made $650 in like barely 3 hours��

Dreamqueen
08-29-2022, 11:10 AM
And……. Just like that. Back to 100/hr. It’s almost like they were hiding during contest lol

Yup. Same here.

Teddy_Bear
08-29-2022, 11:22 AM
Can anyone give me any info on MassPay? Mostly I need to know how much it costs to get paid and transfer it to a UK bank account.

Now that BM are sadly using another company for payouts I'm considering starting over as independent once again and so far the direct payout options are just as abysmal as this other company. I don't like the fact that MassPay don't or won't list their fees on their website. That makes me very uneasy!

Noelle_Noir
08-29-2022, 02:02 PM
Can anyone give me any info on MassPay? Mostly I need to know how much it costs to get paid and transfer it to a UK bank account.

Now that BM are sadly using Veem for payouts I'm considering starting over as independent once again and so far the direct payout options are just as abysmal as Veem. I don't like the fact that MassPay don't or won't list their fees on their website. That makes me very uneasy!

What's wrong with veem if you don't mind me asking?

fetishqueen
08-29-2022, 02:08 PM
Can anyone give me any info on MassPay? Mostly I need to know how much it costs to get paid and transfer it to a UK bank account.

Now that BM are sadly using Veem for payouts I'm considering starting over as independent once again and so far the direct payout options are just as abysmal as Veem. I don't like the fact that MassPay don't or won't list their fees on their website. That makes me very uneasy!

I use Masspay to my UK bank account and it costs $4.10 to withdraw, I've used them since the start of the year when SM dropped the Worldpay option and it's been the same each time, the exchange rate varies of course but you see that on the final page before you withdraw. HTH!

DeepThoughts
08-30-2022, 06:19 AM
20k was a number i admittedly threw out there; i just know there have been past contests where 10k still isn't enough to rank in the top spots. i also have no clue how much someone needs to jump from say, number 4 to number 3. i figure the higher the rank, the more drastic the amount is needed to move up. the lower you are the easier it is to climb.

i don't doubt the rare possibility of a 20k paycheck though, especially if you include the contest prizes. but even without that, consider that there are top models who are popular on other platforms like Onlyfans or are well known porn stars with their own fanbase. surely they have brought some of their own traffic to SM which means they get to keep 75% of transactions from a portion of their customer base instead of 35%. with that in mind I could reasonably see a few of them getting close to a 20k week. though like you said i'm sure the amount of hours takes a huge toll and they likely take a big chunk of time off.

at the end of the day i don't care and am not personally comparing myself or letting it affect me or my hustle in any way; i'm a fairly lazy model that only works part time and could never compete with top earners. i'm in the top 500 right now and i'll be happy to get a couple hundred bucks prize for putting in about 25 hours this week. but i am still fascinated by the earning potential of some models and what it takes to get there. i love when people post about earnings purely because i'm curious, and sometimes it is a nice motivator to try to push myself even a little bit harder.

I am a porn star and a while back I did a collab with another pornstar during a contest week and we did G/G shows. We worked at least the full 7 days and with everything included (prize money, bonus payouts and sales of videos we clipped from the show) we did just over 20k. Of course that then had to be divided by two and we placed about 5th or 7th (I dont remember exactly cause the goal was not to get first but just to get as much money as we could). It was intense though as we were working about 10 hours everyday, we had to completely ignore our families and we ate like shit. I still worked the week after but I was doing like 3 hours a day because I was pretty worn out from the week before. Just wanted to drop that number here to give some of you an idea of what these 1st and 2nd place earners are making.