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JessRyan
09-28-2022, 11:48 AM
They told me outright in the 1st email that it was "intentional toilet play." Then in the 2nd email it was non specific "policy breaking/fraud." So I'm going with the toilet play, but I feel the only reason they reviewed my show was because of the customer. He either got pissed for me kicking him and reported me, or he was doing something fraudulent. I wasn't doing toilet play. I don't get down like that, but I'm not going to beg them for my profile back.

They wrote me today that they will send my concern of getting paid to the account department.

Why did you kick him? Did he ask for it? I'm just curious.
I recently kicked a guy (of course a first timer. I've trained my regulars) who took me exclusive. He waited almost 10 minutes to use language that isn't allowed (slurs) I IMMEDIATELY blocked him. We were C2C and I'm sure he was pissed. I also IMMEDIATELY reported him for using racial slurs. That was to cover my ass in case he reported me.

And this is a reason why I no longer offer any roleplay or kink/fetish. That's just me. Due to hearing of models being banned due to what the member has said. I also NEVER type while streaming, except the "BRB"
Because I offer a lot of anal, I get the "tell me to eat your ass" guys all the time. And it almost always progresses to worse.
Oh, I'm stone cold sober and won't hesitate to block when they cross a line. Funny during a show I'm all sexy and hot, but my mind is 100% on ALERT for bullshit. Experience teaches us to see/hear/expect what's to happen in chat and private.
But I always report them with the reason for the block. As I've said, tread lightly on SM

idgaf_luvr
09-28-2022, 02:38 PM
Why did you kick him? Did he ask for it? I'm just curious.
I recently kicked a guy (of course a first timer. I've trained my regulars) who took me exclusive. He waited almost 10 minutes to use language that isn't allowed (slurs) I IMMEDIATELY blocked him. We were C2C and I'm sure he was pissed. I also IMMEDIATELY reported him for using racial slurs. That was to cover my ass in case he reported me.

And this is a reason why I no longer offer any roleplay or kink/fetish. That's just me. Due to hearing of models being banned due to what the member has said. I also NEVER type while streaming, except the "BRB"
Because I offer a lot of anal, I get the "tell me to eat your ass" guys all the time. And it almost always progresses to worse.
Oh, I'm stone cold sober and won't hesitate to block when they cross a line. Funny during a show I'm all sexy and hot, but my mind is 100% on ALERT for bullshit. Experience teaches us to see/hear/expect what's to happen in chat and private.
But I always report them with the reason for the block. As I've said, tread lightly on SM

I meant to "stop" the show instead of "kick" him, but if my theory is right, he probably would've reported it anyways. Or the fraud thing. Idk if the guys can tell that it is us who kicks them out the show. He didn't do anything ban worthy. I didn't see him write anything that was forbidden. Most of it was "i love you bb" "oh your ass bb."

The butt play of the show was only about 20 minutes. This included fingering, shaking my ass, winking, and using a little probe. This is when my mishap happens. As soon as I notice it, I'm back to pussy play. He starts ordering me to pound my ass. I say nah, I'm going to squirt now. I'm already over it at this point. He keeps pushing for it so I kicked him. He was in there for 58 minutes. He had his cam on too.

I started SM back in 2010. Was on it for 3 years part time. Stopped to do other things. Did it shortly in 2016. Kept up with all the laws and payment processor bs. Came back to it this year to pursue full time. Always been a vanilla camgirl. Crazy thing is, I rarely, rarely, offer anal anything, which is why I wasn't "prepped" for it. I do own a cute little enema bulb. I wish I was a little more careful, but it is what it is. When I refreshed my page and saw my account was gone, I was shocked :O lol. I can laugh now, but I was pissed. My account was closed within an hour. I even did a few more shows after that one and had no clue.

eta: The "mishap" wasn't a full on bowel movement. It was "truffle butter" smh.

Vlodina
09-28-2022, 02:39 PM
Is it just me having serious issues with the interactive toys at the moment? I have a Ferri and a Lush2. Both behave the same. The "reception" bars in the app go up and down a lot, but sometimes it doesn't even vibrate when it's full bars. Everything (streamate/app) looks like it's all connected. I've restarted my computer, phone, internet, done updates on everything, cleaned registry, scans, updated browsers, defragged, everything I can think of... It's stressful and I hate pretending.

VioletH
09-28-2022, 03:08 PM
I meant to "stop" the show instead of "kick" him, but if my theory is right, he probably would've reported it anyways. Or the fraud thing. Idk if the guys can tell that it is us who kicks them out the show. He didn't do anything ban worthy. I didn't see him write anything that was forbidden. Most of it was "i love you bb" "oh your ass bb."

The butt play of the show was only about 20 minutes. This included fingering, shaking my ass, winking, and using a little probe. This is when my mishap happens. As soon as I notice it, I'm back to pussy play. He starts ordering me to pound my ass. I say nah, I'm going to squirt now. I'm already over it at this point. He keeps pushing for it so I kicked him. He was in there for 58 minutes. He had his cam on too.

I started SM back in 2010. Was on it for 3 years part time. Stopped to do other things. Did it shortly in 2016. Kept up with all the laws and payment processor bs. Came back to it this year to pursue full time. Always been a vanilla camgirl. Crazy thing is, I rarely, rarely, offer anal anything, which is why I wasn't "prepped" for it. I do own a cute little enema bulb. I wish I was a little more careful, but it is what it is. When I refreshed my page and saw my account was gone, I was shocked :O lol. I can laugh now, but I was pissed. My account was closed within an hour. I even did a few more shows after that one and had no clue.

eta: The "mishap" wasn't a full on bowel movement. It was "truffle butter" smh.

That's so upsetting... I randomly bleed sometimes with vaginal penetration and am always worried this will get me kicked if someone notices or cares. We are only human and even with precautions accidents can happen. You stopped as soon as you noticed and that should be enough imo. I don't want to wear a sea sponge in my pussy every day just in case, just like I'm sure most people don't want to enema every day just in case they get an anal show...

Luci Fer
09-28-2022, 03:45 PM
^ so true. @idgaf_luvr: why don't you explain your situation to them? I mean, you controlled it as much as you could. They let girls fuck themselves in public chats now, though it's still against their rules, but at the same time they close your account quick when you make a small mistake in private show and stop the show right after it? Fucking unfair. Why their rules work just one way?

idgaf_luvr
09-28-2022, 04:54 PM
I gave them the shorter version of what I wrote here immediately after it happened. I've decided to just let it go. Kinda like a synchronicity thing for me. One door closes, another opens. I know SM is not trying to take any chances with that kind of stuff. If they think I've gone rogue (lol), so be it.

The way everything happened, I feel it was because the guy reported me for kicking him. I just so happened to have had "that" thing happen in that particular show. Guys don't complain about the rules getting broken, so nobody really gets in trouble for it. But let him really think he was slighted, and he's going to speak to the manager lol.

There's always the possibility that they do random sweeps though. Last week, when I stepped away from my camera for maybe 3 minutes, I got the "administrator ended your stream" message for the first time.

I came in hot the other day because I was pissed off, and a little in shock being dropped by my main. I'm cooled off now, and don't want to be a fear mongering. Just a cautionary tale.

Saffronia
09-28-2022, 06:38 PM
I gave them the shorter version of what I wrote here immediately after it happened. I've decided to just let it go. Kinda like a synchronicity thing for me. One door closes, another opens. I know SM is not trying to take any chances with that kind of stuff. If they think I've gone rogue (lol), so be it.

The way everything happened, I feel it was because the guy reported me for kicking him. I just so happened to have had "that" thing happen in that particular show. Guys don't complain about the rules getting broken, so nobody really gets in trouble for it. But let him really think he was slighted, and he's going to speak to the manager lol.

There's always the possibility that they do random sweeps though. Last week, when I stepped away from my camera for maybe 3 minutes, I got the "administrator ended your stream" message for the first time.

I came in hot the other day because I was pissed off, and a little in shock being dropped by my main. I'm cooled off now, and don't want to be a fear mongering. Just a cautionary tale.

I've been on Streamate for a while, not super active on this forum but I decided to make a new Stripperweb account to be more anonymous and better speak my mind. At any rate, I think what happened to you is really alarming. If you want to let it go and move on then that's totally understandable, but I think you have every right to challenge getting your account closed, or at least to get a straight answer. Also, it doesn't bode well for the rest of us. What happened to you was a mishap that's probably happened to every person who has even attempted anal play - I've certainly seen it with guys on cam2cam when they use dildos and it has happened to me as well. So for them to call that "toilet play" when it was an honest mistake that happens due to how the human body is designed, is bullshit in my opinion. And they didn't even give you a straight answer...they turned around and then said it was because of fraud. Okay, so let's say it was fraud - it still wasn't your fault. They're going to close an account that was active and in good standing for years because one customer was doing something fraudulent? It just sucks. I'm at the point where I would not recommend Streamate to anyone new to it. Stick with Chaturbate/Onlyfans/MFC or don't quit your day job, I would tell them, because it would be unethical to recommend anyone base their entire livelihood on a website that can strike down anyone at any given whim, depending on who is working that day and what "rules" they are choosing to apply at that particular moment. And we have no chance at recourse and no entitlement to even an explanation.

laurielegs
09-28-2022, 06:42 PM
I've been on Streamate for a while, not super active on this forum but I decided to make a new Stripperweb account to be more anonymous and better speak my mind. At any rate, I think what happened to you is really alarming. If you want to let it go and move on then that's totally understandable, but I think you have every right to challenge getting your account closed, or at least to get a straight answer. Also, it doesn't bode well for the rest of us. What happened to you was a mishap that's probably happened to every person who has even attempted anal play - I've certainly seen it with guys on cam2cam when they use dildos and it has happened to me as well. So for them to call that "toilet play" when it was an honest mistake that happens due to how the human body is designed, is bullshit in my opinion. And they didn't even give you a straight answer...they turned around and then said it was because of fraud. Okay, so let's say it was fraud - it still wasn't your fault. They're going to close an account that was active and in good standing for years because one customer was doing something fraudulent? It just sucks. I'm at the point where I would not recommend Streamate to anyone new to it. Stick with Chaturbate/Onlyfans/MFC or don't quit your day job, I would tell them, because it would be unethical to recommend anyone base their entire livelihood on a website that can strike down anyone at any given whim, depending on who is working that day and what "rules" they are choosing to apply at that particular moment. And we have no chance at recourse and no entitlement to even an explanation.

I agree that if they are banning for an accident then anal play is pretty much risking your account (as well as dildo play if you had your period start unexpectedly). It does not seem fair at all. Chaturbate tends to ban randomly though, even worse than Streamate.

I really feel like there is no safe site. Working multiple sites is the only way I feel at least somewhat secure. I don't trust any of them to always be there for me.

pippapippa
09-28-2022, 06:51 PM
Have had many people tell me there are connection issues tonight.

anonamiss
09-28-2022, 08:47 PM
not necessarily a streamate question but related -- it looks like the lovense connect app had an update a few days ago. i can't get it to connect to my phone via bluetooth, tried restarting the phone, toggling bluetooth on and off, etc. anyone else having issues?

anonamiss
09-29-2022, 01:41 AM
Is it just me having serious issues with the interactive toys at the moment? I have a Ferri and a Lush2. Both behave the same. The "reception" bars in the app go up and down a lot, but sometimes it doesn't even vibrate when it's full bars. Everything (streamate/app) looks like it's all connected. I've restarted my computer, phone, internet, done updates on everything, cleaned registry, scans, updated browsers, defragged, everything I can think of... It's stressful and I hate pretending.

I couldn't even get mine to connect to the app itself tonight. After I logged off my phone software updated so I'm hoping that'll solve the problem and I'll be able to connect to SM tomorrow without issues, but I won't get my hopes up after reading your post. I'll update here after I do some troubleshooting. (I also really hate pretending. Plus observant guys are aware if your tip vibe isn't on and you're straight faking, since there's the little profile icon that lights up when its actually connected.)

Candyland69
09-29-2022, 01:58 AM
Hello

Cant connect , cant get online. that damn circle spins over and over endlesss. its been like that since like two weeks and SM pretend everything looks fine. really? Why would u pretend everything its fine when its not. its not! deep traffic waves, endless empty room... members being disconnected and that damn circle that takes forever to connect it at all.....

Strawberryblonde
09-29-2022, 02:59 AM
Hello

Cant connect , cant get online. that damn circle spins over and over endlesss. its been like that since like two weeks and SM pretend everything looks fine. really? Why would u pretend everything its fine when its not. its not! deep traffic waves, endless empty room... members being disconnected and that damn circle that takes forever to connect it at all.....

Same here.

ggminx
09-29-2022, 04:29 AM
totally loving this obs virtual cam! downloadable separately, there's a virtual audio cable (select it in the microphone settings in smconnect) you can use to pipe in desktop audio so the quality is nice and crisp...and loving the filters I can put on the camera feed (i have one from my own gifs to super impose using the mask filter option). much much better than trying to use obs to stream on the external encoder. i love using smconnect with the built in encoder. minimize obs use it like normal with all these additional features!

idgaf_luvr
09-29-2022, 04:48 AM
I've been on Streamate for a while, not super active on this forum but I decided to make a new Stripperweb account to be more anonymous and better speak my mind. At any rate, I think what happened to you is really alarming. If you want to let it go and move on then that's totally understandable, but I think you have every right to challenge getting your account closed, or at least to get a straight answer. Also, it doesn't bode well for the rest of us. What happened to you was a mishap that's probably happened to every person who has even attempted anal play - I've certainly seen it with guys on cam2cam when they use dildos and it has happened to me as well. So for them to call that "toilet play" when it was an honest mistake that happens due to how the human body is designed, is bullshit in my opinion. And they didn't even give you a straight answer...they turned around and then said it was because of fraud. Okay, so let's say it was fraud - it still wasn't your fault. They're going to close an account that was active and in good standing for years because one customer was doing something fraudulent? It just sucks. I'm at the point where I would not recommend Streamate to anyone new to it. Stick with Chaturbate/Onlyfans/MFC or don't quit your day job, I would tell them, because it would be unethical to recommend anyone base their entire livelihood on a website that can strike down anyone at any given whim, depending on who is working that day and what "rules" they are choosing to apply at that particular moment. And we have no chance at recourse and no entitlement to even an explanation.

Man, I wrote this well thought out reply to you going in on SM. As soon as I hit submit, the site went down. Now I'm too done. The spirits are warning me :D Because I got the boot, I would probably sound like a big hater anyways.

I did get paid. That was my biggest worry. Didn't get my $50 from the contest (over $500 and 25 hours), but maybe it will come next week.

I wanted to go back and forth with SM, but I literally didn't have the time. I had to make moves before the week ended. I had to hustle up quick, and I'm good now. Maybe I'm in a privileged position where I can say fuck it and walk away. I took this as a sign like "girl, you are tired of camming." :)

I'll throw SM it's bones: You can make an income that's livable. The traffic is "there." There's a tight squeeze on the porn industry, so they have no tolerance for us. If that becomes unsustainable, they may switch it up. I have a crypto wallet already, so just keep that as an Ace.

NitaBaby
09-29-2022, 05:32 AM
totally loving this obs virtual cam! downloadable separately, there's a virtual audio cable (select it in the microphone settings in smconnect) you can use to pipe in desktop audio so the quality is nice and crisp...and loving the filters I can put on the camera feed (i have one from my own gifs to super impose using the mask filter option). much much better than trying to use obs to stream on the external encoder. i love using smconnect with the built in encoder. minimize obs use it like normal with all these additional features!


obs and snap camera are like peanut butter and jelly. I can’t cam without the two.

NYMami
09-29-2022, 06:30 AM
TLDR: Don't use a lot of water based lube during butt play (before proper cleaning). If you're a low to mid tier cammer, then you have to be wary of whales or oppsies, your encouraging fraud smh. I'm very vanilla and just fuck my pussy and go. I don't do "toilet play" fetishes, but that's what I was banned for.

I'm using voice notes for some anonymity about the situation. I know sm watches this thread, but it's worth a shot. Also I ramble even when typing. Also for those who don't care, it won't take up too much space.
Excuse my talking. I have a lisp, stammer, I'm being very informal, and Southern here ;D

Also let me reiterate, I'm not trying to discourage working for SM. I just have some complaints about it. I feel for the type of company it is, it should be way better, especially for us who make them money. Even those of us who bring in 4,000 or less a month. It also makes me think more about what Euro_princess and others say about camming in general.

[I deleted the voice notes]

what do you mean encouraging fraud? I always felt that Streamate’s TOS was very vague when talking about fraud. What constitutes as fraud on our end? If a customer was trying to commit fraud, and do chargebacks, then it’s our fault? I don’t get how we would encourage fraud. Also, what are oppsies?

MissAdriana
09-29-2022, 06:34 AM
Didn't get my $50 from the contest (over $500 and 25 hours), but maybe it will come next week.
I thought it was coming next week?


They told me outright in the 1st email that it was "intentional toilet play." Then in the 2nd email it was non specific "policy breaking/fraud." So I'm going with the toilet play, but I feel the only reason they reviewed my show was because of the customer. He either got pissed for me kicking him and reported me, or he was doing something fraudulent. I wasn't doing toilet play. I don't get down like that, but I'm not going to beg them for my profile back.

They wrote me today that they will send my concern of getting paid to the account department.

What is toilet play? I thought scat was not allowed which is anything bodily fluid play? Wouldnt toilet play be take place ON THE TOILET? Does this mean no more anal play ?



That's so upsetting... I randomly bleed sometimes with vaginal penetration and am always worried this will get me kicked if someone notices or cares. We are only human and even with precautions accidents can happen. You stopped as soon as you noticed and that should be enough imo. I don't want to wear a sea sponge in my pussy every day just in case, just like I'm sure most people don't want to enema every day just in case they get an anal show...

Me too i no longer go as hard and fast as before and barely use toys now, i get a lot of downraters because of that.

I switched to only using black and red colored toys so nothing can be seen o r just look like wet

NYMami
09-29-2022, 06:47 AM
Why did you kick him? Did he ask for it? I'm just curious.
I recently kicked a guy (of course a first timer. I've trained my regulars) who took me exclusive. He waited almost 10 minutes to use language that isn't allowed (slurs) I IMMEDIATELY blocked him. We were C2C and I'm sure he was pissed. I also IMMEDIATELY reported him for using racial slurs. That was to cover my ass in case he reported me.

And this is a reason why I no longer offer any roleplay or kink/fetish. That's just me. Due to hearing of models being banned due to what the member has said. I also NEVER type while streaming, except the "BRB"
Because I offer a lot of anal, I get the "tell me to eat your ass" guys all the time. And it almost always progresses to worse.
Oh, I'm stone cold sober and won't hesitate to block when they cross a line. Funny during a show I'm all sexy and hot, but my mind is 100% on ALERT for bullshit. Experience teaches us to see/hear/expect what's to happen in chat and private.
But I always report them with the reason for the block. As I've said, tread lightly on SM

with Streamate becoming more strict it was always my concern that we would get in trouble for things members say to us which is bullshit. I’m like you. As soon as they start with inappropriate talk and chat, I immediately either block them and report them at the same time to cover my ass or I tell them that they can’t say that and we can do something else. Liz told me that as long as we do that then we shouldn’t have anything to worry about. The inappropriate talking behavior just has to stop. I don’t really type in chat either. However, I will type out if something is inappropriate and they need to stop and I will say it out loud just to cover my ass. At least then they can see on video and in chat history that I did tell them that what they were saying or doing was against streamate policy. I must’ve emailed Liz at least three or four times already because I had concerns about certain practices that seemed to go into a grey area when it comes to Streamate’s rules. I’m assuming that we would get banned for something a customer says or does if we don’t say something and report them. If we report them and say something to them and still get banned then that’s absolute bullshit. What else can we do? We can’t stop them necessarily from showing us something inappropriate on their camera. Or if they say something in chat that’s inappropriate. If we tried to put a stop to it by talking to them or blocking them and reporting them then that should be enough. Like I said, that’s what Liz told me. It even says so in the FAQ on Streamate; that if we report them that makes us look good and let’s then know that we’re following the rules.

NYMami
09-29-2022, 06:49 AM
I thought it was coming next week?



What is toilet play? I thought scat was not allowed which is anything bodily fluid play? Wouldnt toilet play be take place ON THE TOILET? Does this mean no more anal play ?




Me too i no longer go as hard and fast as before and barely use toys now, i get a lot of downraters because of that.

I switched to only using black and red colored toys so nothing can be seen o r just look like wet

I need to invest in a black toy and maybe even a red one. I do work on my period and I use a sponge as well as a soft disc together because the first two days I bleed heavy.

NYMami
09-29-2022, 07:01 AM
I personally wouldn't risk it - just seems shady to me. I would ban him. I'm VERY heavy handed with bans because of all of the stories I've heard about models losing their accounts over dumb shit (I would end up homeless) AND the fact that I like my room chill and comfortable. If someone seems off I make them go away LOL. If it gets too slow I will start unbanning a few at a time based on their notes and what strike they are on. I'm more relaxed with the chatty guys and give a few chances but if something seems shady I just ban.

I’m also heavy handed with bans and reports. With Streamate becoming more and more strict I’m not playing around. Im in the same boat as you. I immediately report as well just to cover my ass since Streamate has said it lets them know that we’re following the rules. I never unblock people though. If I blocked you it was for a good reason. It’s crazy how models are getting their accounts closed over dumb shit. Someone told me how one girl got her account closed because she humped a stuffed teddy bear. I guess because of the “no animals” rule. She luckily got her account back, but that’s such bullshit. And also hearing about models getting banned because of what a customer said or did? That’s so ridiculous. If we tried stopping them and reported them or even blocked them we should not be getting trouble for what they said or did. They should be banned. Not us.

NYMami
09-29-2022, 07:08 AM
Happy first day of fall!

Does this mean the money will finally start rolling in? because apparently this is when the big bucks are supposed to hit and September has NOT been it.

any minute now would be nice... anyyyy minute now....lol

Jokes aside I am not expecting things to magically get better, its obvious traffic has been consistently trash, contest or not. but I'll keep showing up regardless hoping for the best and make whatever money I can. I don't want to just pay my bills, I want to get back to when the money was flowing and I was able to get ahead again. things feel so stagnant. I have all this drive to work and have been putting in the hours, reallyyy hoping it pays off soon. good vibes chicas!

Yea this month was the worst month for me. I understand after Labor Day pretty much every business slows down. It’s also thanks to all the kiddies going back to school. However, I’ve never seen it this bad. I’m hoping the rest of the year is pretty good and steady. I still make well above minimum wage, but I have to stay on longer to make the same amount of money.

Susperia
09-29-2022, 08:39 AM
Who let the fucking douche bags customers out today? Regs wanting me to show them my ass/tits for free.....wanting me to do this and that because another model did it, telling me I'm too expensive, etc.....fuck you and fuck off. This makes me not very happy today.

JessRyan
09-29-2022, 08:59 AM
I meant to "stop" the show instead of "kick" him, but if my theory is right, he probably would've reported it anyways. Or the fraud thing. Idk if the guys can tell that it is us who kicks them out the show. He didn't do anything ban worthy. I didn't see him write anything that was forbidden. Most of it was "i love you bb" "oh your ass bb."

The butt play of the show was only about 20 minutes. This included fingering, shaking my ass, winking, and using a little probe. This is when my mishap happens. As soon as I notice it, I'm back to pussy play. He starts ordering me to pound my ass. I say nah, I'm going to squirt now. I'm already over it at this point. He keeps pushing for it so I kicked him. He was in there for 58 minutes. He had his cam on too.

I started SM back in 2010. Was on it for 3 years part time. Stopped to do other things. Did it shortly in 2016. Kept up with all the laws and payment processor bs. Came back to it this year to pursue full time. Always been a vanilla camgirl. Crazy thing is, I rarely, rarely, offer anal anything, which is why I wasn't "prepped" for it. I do own a cute little enema bulb. I wish I was a little more careful, but it is what it is. When I refreshed my page and saw my account was gone, I was shocked :O lol. I can laugh now, but I was pissed. My account was closed within an hour. I even did a few more shows after that one and had no clue.

eta: The "mishap" wasn't a full on bowel movement. It was "truffle butter" smh.

I'm very sorry to hear this. They should at least review your case & give you a second chance.
Anal play invites an occasional "accident"
I've had it happen to me during an exclusive. Lucky the camera wasn't on my ass or toy, I saw it & told the member I "had to clean up, if you know what I mean, so sorry"
He was a regular & understanding. I was embarrassed. I'm at the age now where I no longer have periods, but those times were a pain in the ass on cam. Pun intended.
I remember using sea sponges & always being worried.
I use smaller/shorter toys now for anal. And I only use 2 toys. One for pussy play, one for anal. I enforce my room my show my rules.
I've been thinking that there will be a day I no longer use toys. I'm confident that day is coming.

JustMilfnAround
09-29-2022, 09:02 AM
I’m also heavy handed with bans and reports. With Streamate becoming more and more strict I’m not playing around. Im in the same boat as you. I immediately report as well just to cover my ass since Streamate has said it lets them know that we’re following the rules. I never unblock people though. If I blocked you it was for a good reason. It’s crazy how models are getting their accounts closed over dumb shit. Someone told me how one girl got her account closed because she jumped a stuffed teddy bear. I guess because of the “no animals” rule. She luckily got her account back, but that’s such bullshit. And also hearing about models getting banned because of what a customer said or did? That’s so ridiculous. If we tried stopping them and reported them or even blocked them we should not be getting trouble for what they said or did. They should be banned. Not us.

Also want to add that because I am so fucking PARANOID now (it definitely affects my shows and mood!) that I have SM Connect set up to record ALL SHOWS. If something goes down I download the show, try to note the timestamp visually as soon as the violation occurs on their end, take screenshots of chat, report and file in a folder on my laptop. All of it. If they try to ban me over some dumb shit I will have my bases covered and refuse to go down without a fight. I do NOT break rules because I don't want to lose my house. SM isn't my only source but it is 85% of my income. All about covering my ass on SM.

And then I log into pussy on the front page and chicks fucking themselves in free chat - SMFH ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

NitaBaby
09-29-2022, 09:05 AM
^same. Ever since they did the updated that gave us this option, all of my shows are recorded. I actually need to delete the 67 videos that have been saved now that I think about it.

NYMami
09-29-2022, 09:15 AM
Also want to add that because I am so fucking PARANOID now (it definitely affects my shows and mood!) that I have SM Connect set up to record ALL SHOWS. If something goes down I download the show, try to note the timestamp visually as soon as the violation occurs on their end, take screenshots of chat, report and file in a folder on my laptop. All of it. If they try to ban me over some dumb shit I will have my bases covered and refuse to go down without a fight. I do NOT break rules because I don't want to lose my house. SM isn't my only source but it is 85% of my income. All about covering my ass on SM.

And then I log into pussy on the front page and chicks fucking themselves in free chat - SMFH ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That’s a good idea! I’m about to start doing that now as well. Thank you!

idgaf_luvr
09-29-2022, 11:09 AM
what do you mean encouraging fraud? I always felt that Streamate’s TOS was very vague when talking about fraud. What constitutes as fraud on our end? If a customer was trying to commit fraud, and do chargebacks, then it’s our fault? I don’t get how we would encourage fraud. Also, what are oppsies?

What I meant was just the speculation that we have to be proactive with sniffing out whether a guy is probably using a stolen credit card or do a large charge back. I think one example is large gold tips back to back. It could look like money laundering too. I remember back in the day the rumors that some camgirls worked with money launders.


I thought it was coming next week?



What is toilet play? I thought scat was not allowed which is anything bodily fluid play? Wouldnt toilet play be take place ON THE TOILET? Does this mean no more anal play ?

Okay if it's coming next week cool. I thought it would be with this week's deposit because the last big contest I placed in, the contest earning came with that same week's earnings.

Yes I had bodily fluids in the camera. Toilet play is their nice way of saying pee/poop. The bodily fluids were considered apart of that.

The specific term was "intentional toilet play." I was not purposely playing with my fluids, so that's up to interpretation.

JessRyan
09-29-2022, 11:24 AM
what do you mean encouraging fraud? I always felt that Streamate’s TOS was very vague when talking about fraud. What constitutes as fraud on our end? If a customer was trying to commit fraud, and do chargebacks, then it’s our fault? I don’t get how we would encourage fraud. Also, what are oppsies?

Fraud happens a lot. You may only hear of a small percentage, but there's a lot you don't hear about.
AND sometimes a model is in on it. The member comes to her, spends a lot, does a chargeback, but she keeps the $$
Sites know this happens. It's a scam between 2 people. Member and model. Or he uses a stolen card with this model.
SM protects against chargebacks and scammers know that. I wonder how many chargebacks they get and how many are connected to me and my guys. They don't disclose this, but I often wonder. I'm sure the site is riddled with chargebacks.
I'm sure it's a red flag for a camsite when a certain model gets more that usual chargebacks.

JessRyan
09-29-2022, 11:34 AM
[QUOTE=idgaf_luvr;3302047]What I meant was just the speculation that we have to be proactive with sniffing out whether a guy is probably using a stolen credit card or do a large charge back. I think one example is large gold tips back to back. It could look like money laundering too. I remember back in the day the rumors that some camgirls worked with money launders.


This happens a lot. Case in point. When I cammed on Bonga years ago. The same girl would win every week (weekly contest) for months! I'd peek in her room, she sat there no talking, fully dressed, never a private and ONE guy tipped unbelievably. All the time she was there. ONE guy kept her winning every week.
I always thought it was fishy.
Then one day she's GONE. Poof, no profile, nothing. Like she was never there. When you'd click on her banned profile it would say something like "model banned due to fraud" or something like that.
Sometimes models are in on it. I'd think a camsite is well educated with the signs. Bonga lost a lot of $$ to this model and member if that's the case with her.

laurielegs
09-29-2022, 11:44 AM
Also want to add that because I am so fucking PARANOID now (it definitely affects my shows and mood!) that I have SM Connect set up to record ALL SHOWS. If something goes down I download the show, try to note the timestamp visually as soon as the violation occurs on their end, take screenshots of chat, report and file in a folder on my laptop. All of it. If they try to ban me over some dumb shit I will have my bases covered and refuse to go down without a fight. I do NOT break rules because I don't want to lose my house. SM isn't my only source but it is 85% of my income. All about covering my ass on SM.

And then I log into pussy on the front page and chicks fucking themselves in free chat - SMFH ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Wow, I somehow missed that you can record all shows. Going to set my SM account to do this now!

NYMami
09-29-2022, 11:45 AM
Fraud happens a lot. You may only hear of a small percentage, but there's a lot you don't hear about.
AND sometimes a model is in on it. The member comes to her, spends a lot, does a chargeback, but she keeps the $$
Sites know this happens. It's a scam between 2 people. Member and model. Or he uses a stolen card with this model.
SM protects against chargebacks and scammers know that. I wonder how many chargebacks they get and how many are connected to me and my guys. They don't disclose this, but I often wonder. I'm sure the site is riddled with chargebacks.
I'm sure it's a red flag for a camsite when a certain model gets more that usual chargebacks.


What I meant was just the speculation that we have to be proactive with sniffing out whether a guy is probably using a stolen credit card or do a large charge back. I think one example is large gold tips back to back. It could look like money laundering too. I remember back in the day the rumors that some camgirls worked with money launders.

Ahh I see. Now I’m just wondering how we can be proactive then? There’s guys that make it obvious for sure, but I’ve had guys tip big in free chat and during shows plenty of times before. Or they stood in exclusive with me for a long time. If they attempted a chargeback how would I know they were planning to do that from the start you know? Same if I kicked a guy out or blocked him in the middle of a show. If I do that it’s because they said or did something against TOS or were disrespectful to me and I also reported them.

bigsnapper36
09-29-2022, 12:01 PM
hi, I try to copy paste the link you gave on the members account at the top and it dont let me change anything .

MelanieJ
09-29-2022, 01:42 PM
Thank the UNIVERSE for spilt camming and other sources of income, because there's no way in hell I could rely on Streamate. The traffic this week has been horrendous. I even peaked in one of the top girls' rooms last night, and she was going minutes without shows or tips, complaining openly about the guys being losers and everything. So that's how I KNOW it's bad.

Best tip going forward is to never rely on any one of anything, no matter how good the money is. It can all change in a days time. Multiple. Streams. Of. Income. ALWAYS.

I will say, SextPanther has been amazing for days I don't feel like camming or need to make my daily goal. Also, venturing into getting clips up is going to be a challenge for me, and it's not immediate money, but at least it's passive!

Busy weekend of starting up these other income streams is incoming...

Lintilla
09-29-2022, 01:50 PM
hi, I try to copy paste the link you gave on the members account at the top and it dont let me change anything .

I'm not 100% this is what you mean, but if you open a user details popup, you're right, you won't be able to type in the address box. Open a new tab in your main browser window instead, paste the blocking URL, then copy and paste just the ID number from the user details popup to the end.

bigsnapper36
09-29-2022, 02:02 PM
the notes on the member that id number It wont let me copy and paste the link into the member notes at top.

KatyBoleyn
09-29-2022, 02:09 PM
Wow, I somehow missed that you can record all shows. Going to set my SM account to do this now!

Back when I cammed it was an option with the encoder. It was a very fast way to completely fill your hard drive. Then I got hubby, as his job, to edit them down for clips sites and make little montages. Much of it is personal and unusable, but for Gold shows and such, especially for fetishes it works well.

BuffyFlame
09-30-2022, 01:37 AM
Where is everyone split ncamming these days. For the first time in a decade, sm isn't doing it for me and I feel like just to make ends meet i need to slip cam.
Totally sucks because %90 of my clients are on streamate whether i brought them there or not. but im making less than %50 of what I made a year ago.
I lov e SM. Im hoping this is just some stinky funk but I went from 80+ potentials to 1-2 in the matter of months and it is sooooo discouraging.

NitaBaby
09-30-2022, 02:26 AM
I split on SM, MFC, and StripChat.

Most of my money comes from sm, also. But I’ve learned that if I ignore sm while I’m splitcamming and concentrate on my hustle for the token sites, I get more shows on sm as a result.

I guess because they aren’t used to that level of flirtiness. I’m not really sure. But Streamate responds very well to the token site hustle.

idgaf_luvr
09-30-2022, 03:08 AM
[QUOTE=idgaf_luvr;3302047]What I meant was just the speculation that we have to be proactive with sniffing out whether a guy is probably using a stolen credit card or do a large charge back. I think one example is large gold tips back to back. It could look like money laundering too. I remember back in the day the rumors that some camgirls worked with money launders.


This happens a lot. Case in point. When I cammed on Bonga years ago. The same girl would win every week (weekly contest) for months! I'd peek in her room, she sat there no talking, fully dressed, never a private and ONE guy tipped unbelievably. All the time she was there. ONE guy kept her winning every week.
I always thought it was fishy.
Then one day she's GONE. Poof, no profile, nothing. Like she was never there. When you'd click on her banned profile it would say something like "model banned due to fraud" or something like that.
Sometimes models are in on it. I'd think a camsite is well educated with the signs. Bonga lost a lot of $$ to this model and member if that's the case with her.


Yep, I remember when I first started camming I heard of the prepaid card hustle as well. An over $300 ($90 my cut) charge back coming from my show would probably raise a big red flag and it went downhill from there. I think what happened to me were compounded misfortunes :D.

VVV
09-30-2022, 06:58 AM
Thank the UNIVERSE for spilt camming and other sources of income, because there's no way in hell I could rely on Streamate. The traffic this week has been horrendous. I even peaked in one of the top girls' rooms last night, and she was going minutes without shows or tips, complaining openly about the guys being losers and everything. So that's how I KNOW it's bad.

Best tip going forward is to never rely on any one of anything, no matter how good the money is. It can all change in a days time. Multiple. Streams. Of. Income. ALWAYS.

I will say, SextPanther has been amazing for days I don't feel like camming or need to make my daily goal. Also, venturing into getting clips up is going to be a challenge for me, and it's not immediate money, but at least it's passive!

Busy weekend of starting up these other income streams is incoming...

damn today how many timewasters around
drive me totally crazy SM
i made only 80$ 6hrs yes i split so hopefully i made up more in totally but the mental struggle to support guysss saying hello, ask for show and then gone OMG i could cryyyyyyyyyy

NYMami
09-30-2022, 08:23 AM
I split on SM, MFC, and StripChat.

Most of my money comes from sm, also. But I’ve learned that if I ignore sm while I’m splitcamming and concentrate on my hustle for the token sites, I get more shows on sm as a result.

I guess because they aren’t used to that level of flirtiness. I’m not really sure. But Streamate responds very well to the token site hustle.

I’ve never done split camming before. How do you do this with Streamate? Are the other guys on the token sites just vouyers when you do a private show on Streamate? I can PM you if that’s ok.

NitaBaby
09-30-2022, 08:36 AM
I’ve never done split camming before. How do you do this with Streamate? Are the other guys on the token sites just vouyers when you do a private show on Streamate? I can PM you if that’s ok.


Short answer: pretty much.

If my token sites are bone dry and completely dead then I'll close out of them for my SM shows; no point in rewarding them with free kewchie. But beyond that I definitely treat them like voyeurs.

SuperPookie
09-30-2022, 09:11 AM
When I had better internet I split it with Cams. com as they are so similar.

NYMami
09-30-2022, 11:20 AM
Short answer: pretty much.

If my token sites are bone dry and completely dead then I'll close out of them for my SM shows; no point in rewarding them with free kewchie. But beyond that I definitely treat them like voyeurs.

I figured. I definitely want to start split camming and get software. Thank you!

NYMami
09-30-2022, 11:21 AM
When I had better internet I split it with Cams. com as they are so similar.

Were you able to do more things in free chat on cams . com?

I’m trying to see what other sites I want to sign up on and split cam with.

JessRyan
09-30-2022, 12:35 PM
I figured. I definitely want to start split camming and get software. Thank you!

Hyori had a really good "how to split cam" step by step video on youtube. I followed it when I used to do that and it worked really well. I'll try to find it.

JessRyan
09-30-2022, 12:38 PM
I’ve never done split camming before. How do you do this with Streamate? Are the other guys on the token sites just vouyers when you do a private show on Streamate? I can PM you if that’s ok.

Here's the thread on it that she started. It's a great how to info for split camming. Her video may be in there too

https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?208261-How-to-splitcam-with-Verysoft-Webcamsplitter-2016

NYMami
09-30-2022, 01:05 PM
Here's the thread on it that she started. It's a great how to info for split camming. Her video may be in there too

https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?208261-How-to-splitcam-with-Verysoft-Webcamsplitter-2016

thank you so much!

JustMilfnAround
09-30-2022, 03:03 PM
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