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Halestorm
10-07-2022, 11:11 AM
Hi Angela yes the comission on Flirt4Free sucks but as I said it's like Cams.com in some ways. The more you make the higher your comission gets. And I dont know why they told you they dont allow splitcam when literally EVERYONE is doing splitcam there. Like literally everyone lol

It's not a perfect site - neither is ImLive or any other but they are still premium and just like Streamate so gotta deal with it.

JustMilfnAround
10-07-2022, 11:13 AM
yes flirt4free accepts pretty quickly. Like 1 hour or so. I love the no free chat of ImLive. I focus 100% on Streamate and when I hear the "ding dong" I jump to imlive and accept the private request. Ahhh unfortunately neither have a referral link for models which sucks but definitely give them a try.

There is also LiveJasmin but I have no idea about there :-(

LiveJasmin turned me down because I am "too old". Dumbasses. They are missing out on the MILF market LOL

Reopening my Skyprivate account. SM has just burnt me out on free chat the last few weeks.

Angela888
10-07-2022, 11:13 AM
thanks hun I will give I’m live a go then! Have u tried live Jasmine? Yeah I did think it was a bit strange …. But I’m out cos of the camera issues, unless they are now compatible x



Hi Angela yes the comission on Flirt4Free sucks but as I said it's like Cams.com in some ways. The more you make the higher your comission gets. And I dont know why they told you they dont allow splitcam when literally EVERYONE is doing splitcam there. Like literally everyone lol

It's not a perfect site - neither is ImLive or any other but they are still premium and just like Streamate so gotta deal with it.

Halestorm
10-07-2022, 11:15 AM
LiveJasmin turned me down because I am "too old". Dumbasses. They are missing out on the MILF market LOL

Reopening my Skyprivate account. SM has just burnt me out on free chat the last few weeks.

i can't believe they did this. i'm speechless

I hear good things about skyprivate I should open a account there myself.

Streamate is a good site with nice features and so easy to use. I wish they would go back to normal soon because their traffic there is hella weird

Angela888
10-07-2022, 11:32 AM
What a bunch of twats, not to mention idiots, the MILF market is huge! I’m in my forties myself and I signed up, didn’t know they had age limits like that . Was it a while ago, maybe they changed? I am trying cam lust , cam directory and gonna do sky private sign up when I get time . Not sure about cam lust, but hey I’ll give it a go x


QUOTE=Halestorm;3303243]i can't believe they did this. i'm speechless

I hear good things about skyprivate I should open a account there myself.

Streamate is a good site with nice features and so easy to use. I wish they would go back to normal soon because their traffic there is hella weird[/QUOTE]

DivineMissDeviant
10-07-2022, 11:42 AM
What the hell is going on with Streamate's bandwidth lately? Today, it's been terrible! It never used to be like this. In fact, it used to be brilliant. But lately, the slightest change in light and it fluctuates like crazy. Today was the worst it's been so far.

SuperPookie
10-07-2022, 12:06 PM
What a bunch of twats, not to mention idiots, the MILF market is huge! I’m in my forties myself and I signed up, didn’t know they had age limits like that . Was it a while ago, maybe they changed? I am trying cam lust , cam directory and gonna do sky private sign up when I get time . Not sure about cam lust, but hey I’ll give it a go x


QUOTE=Halestorm;3303243]i can't believe they did this. i'm speechless

I hear good things about skyprivate I should open a account there myself.

Streamate is a good site with nice features and so easy to use. I wish they would go back to normal soon because their traffic there is hella weird[/QUOTE]

I have CamLust with Bolyen to avoid their high payout minimum. There is also LiveCamModelShows & MondoCamGirls for Skype and CamContacts for no free chat.

Halestorm
10-07-2022, 12:12 PM
thanks hun I will give I’m live a go then! Have u tried live Jasmine? Yeah I did think it was a bit strange …. But I’m out cos of the camera issues, unless they are now compatible x

never tried LJ . Streamate is so much better than all of these in all aspects. I miss 2020 Streamate it was so damn good

Angela888
10-07-2022, 12:16 PM
never tried LJ . Streamate is so much better than all of these in all aspects. I miss 2020 Streamate it was so damn good

I don’t think it’s them, I think it is simply world events playing out. You just got to diversify and try your best. SM is still an amazing site and I’ve had bad weeks, I’ve had amazing weeks but right now you can’t just rely on one, unfortunately, we got to adapt to world economic climate and that means spreading net wider and catching more fish:) sending everyone big money vibes and huge patience for trying new sites and staying on even though it’s rough x

Esixxx
10-07-2022, 01:41 PM
Did anyone get FaustA77 (the lastest spammer) ID #?

TIA

anonamiss
10-07-2022, 02:13 PM
this will probably get lost in the sea of all the other topics going on right now but just wanted to post a lovense tip i discovered lately in case it might help someone.

i use my phone to play music as well as connect my lovense vibe via bluetooth. in the past there are times where the vibe won't sync up to SM at all, and sometimes it randomly disconnects midstream. up until now i couldn't figure out a consistent way to get it going again; occasionally turning the phone on/off or completely restarting my stream will work, but not always, and both are disruptive/annoying.

but this week i noticed a few things: i no longer have issues connecting the tip vibe to the lovense remote or SMConnect as long as i do it first, before i connect my music/speakers to bluetooth. and if the vibe gets disconnected at any point, i just de-sync my speakers from the bluetooth temporarily and refresh the lovense connection. everything goes back to normal and i can turn my music back on.

going forward i'm going to try using a separate old phone to play music on so that the only bluetooth connection i have on my main phone is lovense. i am hoping that solves the random disconnects but we'll see.

Erika_Xstacy
10-07-2022, 02:51 PM
Did anyone get FaustA77 (the lastest spammer) ID #?

TIA

i got you boo ;) I love saying that

113667700

Erika_Xstacy
10-07-2022, 02:53 PM
never tried LJ . Streamate is so much better than all of these in all aspects. I miss 2020 Streamate it was so damn good

lol everyone was home and had free money coming in from the govt
that was bank season for sure
2020 was a whole fuckery .. I wouldn't gauge anything off that year lol

SuperPookie
10-07-2022, 03:03 PM
Just popping in to say SM has been fairly normal traffic wise today so my fingers are crossed that it was just them doing some behind the scenes BS earlier in the week.
Honestly I want to be making enough money on a wide enough variety of sites that if SM goes completely bust it will be unfortunate and irritating but not a financial killer.

Esixxx
10-07-2022, 03:19 PM
i got you boo ;) I love saying that

113667700

Thank you! You are the best!

and I like hearing/reading you say that :D

Esixxx
10-07-2022, 03:20 PM
Just popping in to say SM has been fairly normal traffic wise today so my fingers are crossed that it was just them doing some behind the scenes BS earlier in the week.
Honestly I want to be making enough money on a wide enough variety of sites that if SM goes completely bust it will be unfortunate and irritating but not a financial killer.

Traffic was better for me today too. Tuesday was absymal.

Erika_Xstacy
10-07-2022, 03:27 PM
Traffic was better for me today too. Tuesday was absymal.

Last week was terrrrrible for me.. it takes a lot for me to email support, send screen shots, fuckn room being watched, lol but last week i had no choice

I did get a email yesterday that stated


"Its fixed now"


we go through so much drama to get basic answers. lol

Esixxx
10-07-2022, 04:02 PM
wth... "it's fixed now" lol

i had the spinning wheel of doom to try to get connected. People popping in and out of chat.

I did have a couple of people that had connection issues- because they were able to come back and tell.
Recently it has felt like Streamgate all over again

Erika_Xstacy
10-07-2022, 04:20 PM
wth... "it's fixed now" lol

i had the spinning wheel of doom to try to get connected. People popping in and out of chat.

I did have a couple of people that had connection issues- because they were able to come back and tell.
Recently it has felt like Streamgate all over again

listed my exact complaints
asked me to record the wheel of doom as if they are oblivious to what Im talking about lololol

JessRyan
10-07-2022, 04:35 PM
so I'm still getting messages from members named "annan" asking for the 15-20 min gold show with a 300+ or so gold tip. I just had one today and immediately blocked him in my chat. They ALL have a different ID #
I've been writing them down.
I've added it up, it comes to 7 of them now. All named "annan" all different ID# asking for the same bizarre thing. A gold show for 15-20 minutes with a 300 to 350 gold buy in.
Block!

arielloves
10-08-2022, 01:09 AM
Hi does anyone use an m2 macbook air for streaming on streamate? Does it work well with sm? Looking for a new laptop and haven't used a mac for streaming on there before. (Currently using a 11th gen i5 16gb Lenovo) Would love any feedback! Thanks!

gembabex
10-08-2022, 09:18 AM
ALOT of show drops/disconnections lately, my end and the guys, even with great internet connection :\ site seems way more janky than usual recently

hotmodel
10-08-2022, 01:14 PM
This is the second fraud guy I've gotten in my room. The first one (which I have a feeling this is the same guy just creating different accounts). The first time, it got my account banned from streamate because streamate thought I knew the fraud idiot! Streamate did the investigation and realized I didn't know him so they unbanned my account. Now, I get the second fraud guy in my room. Mind you, I don't know what to look for. This is a new account, different name, different account number. So, I let him take me exclusive and he hit his limit. And since we could see when they hit the limit. I knew it was his limit. He comes back into the free chat saying his hotel wifi is spotty and wants to take me exclusive again. I ended up logging out and reporting the guy as a possible fraud guy. And sure enough he was. I ask streamate how I could stay alert to these fraud guys cause I don't know what to look for and I'm frustrated! I thought it was the members account number but this is the reply I got back from the streamate fraud department:

The customers account numbers that start with 1 and 2 that she is talking about refer to a ranking system related to how much the user has spent on the model. This system can’t really help a model decide whether a customer is legitimately “good” or not, as fraudsters may spend a lot on one model just like any other “good” users presenting a higher rating.

To avoid this type of repeated scenario, we currently send an email warning to models heavily targeted by fraud, and encourage them to do the following:

“Going forward, for your safety and to prevent any eventual repercussions, any activity you find to be suspicious should be reported right away..

Things to look for:

• Large amounts of gold for little or no chatting.

• Non-sexual chat sessions that carry on for an extended amount of time.

• Continuing or ongoing conversations from the same user over multiple accounts.

Can any of you ladies help me to know what to look for? This response doesn't really help. My highest paying customers have been guys who chat it up so that means nothing either.
This is super frustrating!

DivineMissDeviant
10-08-2022, 01:23 PM
ALOT of show drops/disconnections lately, my end and the guys, even with great internet connection :\ site seems way more janky than usual recently

Yup, was terrible yesterday. Bandwith was pants. I've ordered a new laptop with an i5 processor so hopefully that will make some improvement. But it's definitely very sensitive to light settings.

whirlerz
10-08-2022, 01:28 PM
OK, just now had a reg stop by, Idk some disconnect, he went back & tried again, he said my screen was black, his screen kinda dark but I could make him out, he said was gonna refresh, I did as well, but he hasn't come back..>:(

DivineMissDeviant
10-08-2022, 01:48 PM
OK, just now had a reg stop by, Idk some disconnect, he went back & tried again, he said my screen was black, his screen kinda dark but I could make him out, he said was gonna refresh, I did as well, but he hasn't come back..>:(

It's ever since the broadcaster was updated. I have no idea what they've done to it, but it isn't good.

whirlerz
10-08-2022, 02:20 PM
It's ever since the broadcaster was updated. I have no idea what they've done to it, but it isn't good.

Oh, ok thank you.. ^
Ugh tho. Been dead all day, mostly, I should have stayed on longer last night, (early am really. )

whirlerz
10-08-2022, 02:57 PM
OK, I just now had a guy take me private, then leave in under a minute, happened a couple of times today, wondering if it's some F up like described above. Ugh.

daisylive
10-08-2022, 04:06 PM
Just here to vent. I have an annoying guy that i can't get rid of from this site. He's 70, with a scat / pay pig fetish and will get in xcl to ask for you to do a scat roleplay. We know this is against the TOS, but im telling you guys, men have figured out how to get away with SM rules, by only speaking verbally on camera instead of typing so the chat won't get flagged by SM. Once you do one show with him, he wont go away. He joined a pvt session and just sat there watching even though he's not into vanilla but he wanted to stalk. He has multiple accounts and also will follow you on any other cam site you work on + social media and continue to pester you there. I've blocked him last year but every few months he comes back and somehow has bypassed SM blocking system for messages after they did the update. I thought blocking his state would do the trick but it didnt work. He's now retailiating by going into models rooms and creating drama, gossiping saying im talking about them so then they'llfeel compelled to bash me. Be careful if you guys encounter and do a show this man, he tips well and offers to pay but he's obessive and will never leave you alone. I've deleted all my twitter because he began coming for my regs.

JustMilfnAround
10-08-2022, 04:59 PM
Just here to vent. I have an annoying guy that i can't get rid of from this site. He's 70, with a scat / pay pig fetish and will get in xcl to ask for you to do a scat roleplay. We know this is against the TOS, but im telling you guys, men have figured out how to get away with SM rules, by only speaking verbally on camera instead of typing so the chat won't get flagged by SM. Once you do one show with him, he wont go away. He joined a pvt session and just sat there watching even though he's not into vanilla but he wanted to stalk. He has multiple accounts and also will follow you on any other cam site you work on + social media and continue to pester you there. I've blocked him last year but every few months he comes back and somehow has bypassed SM blocking system for messages after they did the update. I thought blocking his state would do the trick but it didnt work. He's now retailiating by going into models rooms and creating drama, gossiping saying im talking about them so then they'llfeel compelled to bash me. Be careful if you guys encounter and do a show this man, he tips well and offers to pay but he's obessive and will never leave you alone. I've deleted all my twitter because he began coming for my regs.

OMFG! Do you have ID#'s for his accounts?

I have had people like this and it is absolutely terrifying. I'm so sorry.

Have you reported him? I would definitely report his ass.

Why the fuck are people like this? *hugs*

daisylive
10-08-2022, 06:07 PM
I know! It's ruins my spirit sometimes kills my mood logging in, im sorry you've been through experience too, *hugs back* it fucking sucks and It just blows my mind how people can be this way.

Yes. Here they are, copied and pasted his profiles just incase he changes the usernames, the ID # should remain the same.

https://streamatemodels.com/smm/userdetails.php?userid=31308081&fromsite=1

https://streamatemodels.com/smm/userdetails.php?userid=69008929&fromsite=1

https://streamatemodels.com/smm/userdetails.php?userid=46179458&fromsite=1

I messaged him giving him a warning since he couldn't take a hint when i blocked him. He's blocked from my room, messages and location geoblocked. SM support said that contacting the police is all that could be done if he comes back. He will try and make you feel sorry for him and said that i owe him since he spent money on me. He's just a creep. After my warning message, I hope this finally comes to an end.




OMFG! Do you have ID#'s for his accounts?

I have had people like this and it is absolutely terrifying. I'm so sorry.

Have you reported him? I would definitely report his ass.

Why the fuck are people like this? *hugs*

moneybags
10-08-2022, 10:06 PM
This is the second fraud guy I've gotten in my room. The first one (which I have a feeling this is the same guy just creating different accounts). The first time, it got my account banned from streamate because streamate thought I knew the fraud idiot! Streamate did the investigation and realized I didn't know him so they unbanned my account. Now, I get the second fraud guy in my room. Mind you, I don't know what to look for. This is a new account, different name, different account number. So, I let him take me exclusive and he hit his limit. And since we could see when they hit the limit. I knew it was his limit. He comes back into the free chat saying his hotel wifi is spotty and wants to take me exclusive again. I ended up logging out and reporting the guy as a possible fraud guy. And sure enough he was. I ask streamate how I could stay alert to these fraud guys cause I don't know what to look for and I'm frustrated! I thought it was the members account number but this is the reply I got back from the streamate fraud department:

The customers account numbers that start with 1 and 2 that she is talking about refer to a ranking system related to how much the user has spent on the model. This system can’t really help a model decide whether a customer is legitimately “good” or not, as fraudsters may spend a lot on one model just like any other “good” users presenting a higher rating.

To avoid this type of repeated scenario, we currently send an email warning to models heavily targeted by fraud, and encourage them to do the following:

“Going forward, for your safety and to prevent any eventual repercussions, any activity you find to be suspicious should be reported right away..

Things to look for:

• Large amounts of gold for little or no chatting.

• Non-sexual chat sessions that carry on for an extended amount of time.

• Continuing or ongoing conversations from the same user over multiple accounts.

Can any of you ladies help me to know what to look for? This response doesn't really help. My highest paying customers have been guys who chat it up so that means nothing either.
This is super frustrating!

How is this our problem? The only way a model would know is if the customer said, “I stole this credit card.” These are some of my best regulars.

The only thing I can say is if it seems to good to be true it probably is.

Strawberryblonde
10-09-2022, 12:42 AM
Does anyone know what the number 4 means next to a member's name? It's popped up on a regular's name, never seen a 4 before (or not that I can remember).

hotmodel
10-09-2022, 12:58 AM
How is this our problem? The only way a model would know is if the customer said, “I stole this credit card.” These are some of my best regulars.

The only thing I can say is if it seems to good to be true it probably is.

Exactly! I don't understand how these are the models issues. This is why we only get such a small percentage from streamate. It is to cover charge backs/frauds. Its unreal!

freya_jade_
10-09-2022, 01:28 AM
Have I just been off my game lately, or have guys been a lot more ruthless with their ratings lately? In the past 30 days I've gotten two 1-star ratings, and one 3-star. In all of my years doing this, anything below a 5 has been extremely rare. I'm a little afraid of how this is going to affect my placement for the next 90 days or so.

NitaBaby
10-09-2022, 02:08 AM
Exactly! I don't understand how these are the models issues. This is why we only get such a small percentage from streamate. It is to cover charge backs/frauds. Its unreal!

Which is exactly why I refuse to concern myself with it. They take the lions share of our earnings to worry about these things.

hotmodel
10-09-2022, 02:36 AM
Which is exactly why I refuse to concern myself with it. They take the lions share of our earnings to worry about these things.

I agree 100%! But they banned my model account because they thought I knew this hacker. Thank god they investigated it and realized I did not know this hacker and unbanned it. But now i get this second hacker and im freaking out. I really think this second hacker was the same hacker. One thing he said in his story line was kind of similar to the first hacker. But now I'm on guard, freaked out and nervous of any future mistakes...things I might overlook. Honestly, any client that is new...I'm looking at them like...are you fraud? Should I report this guy for talking to me and hitting his limit? Then I'm thinking...if a guy tips me 100.00 or more...is that fraud? Cause it's too much money...just for being a goddess these guys worship (cause that happens to). Ugh this is exhausting...wondering if I should just walk away from streamate all together. Ive been with streamate for yearsssss. But it's hard to work in this type of situation/environment. It's almost like there's no way to combat this situation and it's going to be a losing battle especially if this hacker keeps making new names, new account numbers and keeps coming back to my room.

NitaBaby
10-09-2022, 03:50 AM
^^ Yeah that’s really fucked up. Sm being suspicious of large tips indicates that there’s a scarcity of that type of generosity on the site - and I don’t like that lol. Token site girls don’t have to worry that a $1000 tip being fraud and I want that same type of comfort on sm.

Just another thing to add to the cons list.

hotmodel
10-09-2022, 04:25 AM
^^ Yeah that’s really fucked up. Sm being suspicious of large tips indicates that there’s a scarcity of that type of generosity on the site - and I don’t like that lol. Token site girls don’t have to worry that a $1000 tip being fraud and I want that same type of comfort on sm.

Just another thing to add to the cons list.

Yep exactly what I was thinking as i'm over here trying to figure out if I should start camming on MFC lol!

wonderland1
10-09-2022, 09:54 AM
Does anyone know what the number 4 means next to a member's name? It's popped up on a regular's name, never seen a 4 before (or not that I can remember).

The number next to their names represents how much they have spent on you. The numbers have always been there.
in USD-
1=5.-100.
2=100.-500.
3=500.-2500.
4=2500-10,000
5=Over 10,000

Strawberryblonde
10-09-2022, 12:42 PM
The number next to their names represents how much they have spent on you. The numbers have always been there.
in USD-
1=5.-100.
2=100.-500.
3=500.-2500.
4=2500-10,000
5=Over 10,000

Thank you he has been a regular from very soon after I started, guess it all adds up.

DivineMissDeviant
10-09-2022, 01:04 PM
Is he from Germany? Something like Sklave. If so, he's known for this. Definitely block him.

DivineMissDeviant
10-09-2022, 01:08 PM
This guy? Extremestsklave. Well known throughout the Femdom community for this behaviour. I've blocked him from everything. He pops up with a new name every now and then, and that gets blocked too. It sure sounds like him.

DivineMissDeviant
10-09-2022, 01:13 PM
I didn't do too badly today. Because it's the first day of shark week and my pants look like Michael Myers had paid them a visit, I decided to do foot shows only. Did very well! Lots of traffic. Best advice I can give with regard to traffic, if you get good traffic, stay logged on, otherwise you'll lose it.

SuperPookie
10-09-2022, 01:49 PM
How do I turn off potential members? I hate people staring when they are not in my room.

SoloDesire
10-09-2022, 02:14 PM
How do I turn off potential members? I hate people staring when they are not in my room.

"Settings" and click on "Chat Settings" then scroll to the bottom and turn off Potential Members.

SuperPookie
10-09-2022, 02:18 PM
"Settings" and click on "Chat Settings" then scroll to the bottom and turn off Potential Members.

Oh I thought that just turned off our ability to count them not their ability to perv lol. Thank you!

SoloDesire
10-09-2022, 02:57 PM
Oh I thought that just turned off our ability to count them not their ability to perv lol. Thank you!

Yeah, they can still watch you...you just won't see the number. If you don't want logged out people watching you then you'd have to turn on geo restrictions, but I don't recommend that as it will effect your traffic.

izshadow
10-09-2022, 08:52 PM
I swear. I got all nice and pretty and my room is deader then a graveyard. Tonight, I decide to jump on real quick in my pajamas to try and get my stars back up since I was gone for so long moving. No jewelry, hair a mess... nothing and here my room is steadily busy for a moment and I already had a short exclusive.

KatyBoleyn
10-09-2022, 10:09 PM
I know! It's ruins my spirit sometimes kills my mood logging in, im sorry you've been through experience too, *hugs back* it fucking sucks and It just blows my mind how people can be this way.

Yes. Here they are, copied and pasted his profiles just incase he changes the usernames, the ID # should remain the same.

https://streamatemodels.com/smm/userdetails.php?userid=31308081&fromsite=1

https://streamatemodels.com/smm/userdetails.php?userid=69008929&fromsite=1

https://streamatemodels.com/smm/userdetails.php?userid=46179458&fromsite=1

I messaged him giving him a warning since he couldn't take a hint when i blocked him. He's blocked from my room, messages and location geoblocked. SM support said that contacting the police is all that could be done if he comes back. He will try and make you feel sorry for him and said that i owe him since he spent money on me. He's just a creep. After my warning message, I hope this finally comes to an end.


The biggest red flag is that their ID numbers change.

The pattern to watch for are clients that do long exclusives, often maxing out their limit, and leaving a big tip at the end. Then they'll return, same day or next day, and do it again. They may have the same name, but you'll be able to see they have different account numbers. If they change their name and keep the same account, they still may be pulling something (or could just be a stalker), but its harder to determine.

During these exclusives, they may be chatty or ask for some token show, but generally act like they don't care what you do.

There's also the pattern where you'll be sitting there and suddenly guys will drop in your room, drop huge tips, and just leave...and then it may happen again and again.

These guys are burning stolen credit cards for whatever reason. Nobody sits there for weeks maxing out their credit cards for you - even legit addicts have reasonable limits.

Report it immediately to the site. There's no downside if you obviously didn't collude with the client AND you report immediately when the red flags are set off. Always report if the same guy (or type of quiet guy) shows up with a different name or account.

If the guy is a legit whale, the sites will already know and clear him. You'll then know he's safe going forward. Legit whales have no issues confirming their info. If they're a fraudster, you saved yourself a lot of future trouble.

No matter how tempting, never collude with them. How it works is that you're the one left holding the bag. The site knows who YOU are, but they don't know who he is. Guess which one is easier to make the case against legally?

About 2-3 years ago, this was really common and we got burned once pretty hard. After that, the patterns were fairly easy to spot.