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anonamiss
11-14-2022, 11:36 AM
https://twitter.com/YNOTAlyssaC/status/1591103833824202752?s=20&t=KV_zD74QOy0gcKI-XRu4hw

Over 4000 sites sending us traffic?
Not to my cam room.
Hmmm:thinking:

"We’re obsessed with continuously improving our streaming technology, delivering the highest quality product to users, and finding the most valuable traffic. I think what sets us apart is our commitment to this goal; we focus on data-driven decisions and act quickly to adjust to any changes.

[...]

"As for requests – we follow feedback very closely, and it definitely guides priorities on improvements and changes (within reason of course). User and broadcaster feedback is definitely heard! We have a number of channels for feedback from everyone willing to offer it."

LOL... nah. If they were so "committed" and "obsessed" with improving their technology they wouldn't flat out ignore model feedback or blame glitches on us/our tech. They'll never own up to the fact that their constant reworking of the site/adding features no one asked for has turned a once-awesome platform into a glitchy sometimes-completely-unworkable shit show.

I still love Streamate and will keep working through all the BS, but to see them say "at our core, we're a tech company driven by data and results" is just laughable.

Hileooo3
11-14-2022, 12:26 PM
Hows day time weekday traffic EST for you ladies? Is it contest week or just dead

Jayleashaxo
11-14-2022, 01:33 PM
Hows day time weekday traffic EST for you ladies? Is it contest week or just dead

Contest/bonus week traffic = dead 💀 but more girls log on more frequently so suppose more girls to choose from as a customer I am GMT though so might be diff for EST

DivineMissDeviant
11-14-2022, 02:29 PM
I was all set for camming on bonus week. I did yesterday. Then last night, the shock left and the grief hit big style. Spent most of last night crying. Eyes like piss holes in the snow. Another 90 min crying session this afternoon. Look like something the dog sicked up. But I will be back on cam on Thursday. Sometimes, we need a mental health day.

Susperia
11-14-2022, 03:41 PM
I was all set for camming on bonus week. I did yesterday. Then last night, the shock left and the grief hit big style. Spent most of last night crying. Eyes like piss holes in the snow. Another 90 min crying session this afternoon. Look like something the dog sicked up. But I will be back on cam on Thursday. Sometimes, we need a mental health day.

I'm sorry for your loss, give yourself some time. Death is so difficult to process, I wish I could say something to ease your pain, I had a really hard time when I lost my grandmother years ago. Cam will always be there when you are ready. Don't beat yourself up if you can't get on this week. As for me I can't get on this week because I had some skin tags removed and now I have these horrible sore and red marks where they were and its not pretty, I have to wait for my skin to heal before I can get back on...ugh. So don't feel bad about not camming for bonus week because I can't do it either.

bigbum
11-14-2022, 04:37 PM
i’ve been away sick for 3 weeks and al of my traffic , followers and money had disappeared with my sickness.
i don’t know if it is slow for you ladies ?
perhaps i deserve to rank lower after being away.
also i wanted to comment that the c2c glitch is real
a few cans went through . luckily they stayed for the most part and tipped but i am not thrilled to close the control to reject and accept as i see fit.
i was planning on logging on tonight. but i’ve been vomiting and have a fever and i’m on another round of antibiotics today.
i can’t can’t do it… uggg
the only thing about camming is if you are sick or having a mentally off day, you just simply don’t want money. which sucks.

bigbum
11-14-2022, 04:38 PM
I was all set for camming on bonus week. I did yesterday. Then last night, the shock left and the grief hit big style. Spent most of last night crying. Eyes like piss holes in the snow. Another 90 min crying session this afternoon. Look like something the dog sicked up. But I will be back on cam on Thursday. Sometimes, we need a mental health day.
you need to set realistic expectations for yourself.
you are going through a lot right now. sending you good energy and wishes

giuseppezanottis
11-14-2022, 06:19 PM
I've always played music on my live streams. I get too anxious in total silence. Never had an issue like what you mentioned though. I play music on a big speaker in the background (usually medium volume level, loud enough to distinguish but not so loud I can't talk over it), and use a Blue Snowball microphone on my desk. It seems to nicely balance the music and my voice without either being overpowering or getting distorted.

Do you use an external microphone? Maybe try that and see if it helps your issue (or switch to your built in/webcam mic to compare/see if the issue still happens.)


thank you for your response! i use an external yeti mic but i usually just play music straight off my laptop. i've been meaning to buy an external speaker so that's something i'll have to try out and see if it makes a difference.

Erika_Xstacy
11-14-2022, 09:59 PM
The reason why it sucks so much for me is because I never compete. I usually just do whatever hours and end up getting a $100-$300 bonus unintentionally for my placement, now I'll get no bonus. :'( It sucks too that with the prizes the earnings brackets go from $1000-$2500 because every time I have done 25 hours I end up making $2200ish, probably most chicks make between 1k and $2400 which is why they divvied it up that way.

I have a feeling that this contest might be extra slow traffic for whatever reasons since they've made it to where the 25 hours is mandatory. So yeah I don't think I'm going to bother.


You're right, I do refer to bonuses and contests as "contests," I guess what I should have said that I'm bummed that this is a bonus and not a contest, because it means I get no prize (because I'm not doing the 25).

I was lost for sec.
this week is bonus only.
I usually dont go for the hours/bonus but the past month has been awesome and if i can get on top of that with some extra money, im going for it.

today is my first day and i'm knocking out 10 hours.
I don't work monday but today has been profitable and im coming up on the 10 hours. it's almost impossible to keep a high hourly bc after the 3rd hour im not feeling all bubbly the 10 hours today will give me enough hours added to comfortably make the bonus and cam regular

we are having a cold spell and rain roll in so i might do more then the 25 just bc it's cold outside.
its money season

eta: I have abused the fuck out my break button today lol i'd hit break button let the dog out, come back, restart the timer... go dick around and decide to start again but hold up i forgot to do something... .... hits break again lol
i HATE THE BREAK BUTTON, I NEVER USE IT lol

eta:finished the hard part :) can do the week normal without worry about the 25
A cpl yrs ago i as 3 hours from the bonus... i was so mad at myself

Candyland69
11-15-2022, 01:42 AM
Hello. Do u happen to have very strange traffic where members dont answer to a simple hi? It happend to me since like days now.. its been days since i have over 90%less potentials and traffic. When they finally say a hi i cant have a conversation it sems we cant communucate since they answer soo slow or thet just leave . There must be somthing there must be ... my earnings drop to 70% and this streange unnatural traffic its driving me crazy. Cheers!

Luna66
11-15-2022, 03:44 AM
Sorry for asking a question without sharing anything helpful myself, but can anyone tell me what the private peepers situation is like nowadays? I haven't been on SM in 3 years, been focusing on content! The private peepers thing is the worst part of SM for me, if it's still as bad as it used to be, I won't offer privates at all, exclusives only. Is it rare now, or does it still happen multiple times in every single private like it used to?

xStellaBlue
11-15-2022, 03:46 AM
Sorry for asking a question without sharing anything helpful myself, but can anyone tell me what the private peepers situation is like nowadays? I haven't been on SM in 3 years, been focusing on content! The private peepers thing is the worst part of SM for me, if it's still as bad as it used to be, I won't offer privates at all, exclusives only. Is it rare now, or does it still happen multiple times in every single private like it used to?
It still happens frequently. I put my private prices higher than my exclusive prices to encourage more exclusives and avoid the peepers.

Luna66
11-15-2022, 03:50 AM
Thank you so much! That's exactly what I used to do ($8.99 excl, $9.99 prvt), so I'll keep that strategy going!

matchafox
11-15-2022, 09:16 AM
I took some time off (like the past two months) and I'm placing lower than when I was new (even after my new model placement). I'm typically in the top few rows, and I'm at the bottom of page 2 on desktop, and 5 on mobile. I'm not sure what happened. I still have 5 stars, I've never dropped this low when I've taken time off in the past.

Has anyone had this happen? Did anything fix it?

Erika_Xstacy
11-15-2022, 10:01 AM
I took some time off (like the past two months) and I'm placing lower than when I was new (even after my new model placement). I'm typically in the top few rows, and I'm at the bottom of page 2 on desktop, and 5 on mobile. I'm not sure what happened. I still have 5 stars, I've never dropped this low when I've taken time off in the past.

Has anyone had this happen? Did anything fix it?

2 months is a long time and the cycle is 90 days
we cant take time off and come back to placement , you just need to cam and make money

JessRyan
11-15-2022, 11:15 AM
^^ time online has nothing to do with placement. I've seen it with models who have not streamed for months or YEARS, and when they do, boom they're always on the top row front page. And even with bad cam quality.
I don't have a clue why the placement is what it is. You'll see some on the top row, no privates not busy, talking about how slow it is...
I'm lower front page, busy as hell, private after private (sure I don't put in the hours) but time online isn't a factor either. How much you make? I usually make a good hourly rate, so that's not it either.
Cam quality? I'm hard wired with upload speed over what I need for 4K streaming.
I think favoritism and luck is. That's just business.
Support says what's required "for placement" for them as a business, but I don't believe it's for good placement on the front page. This is just my thoughts on placement.

JessRyan
11-15-2022, 11:22 AM
Sorry for asking a question without sharing anything helpful myself, but can anyone tell me what the private peepers situation is like nowadays? I haven't been on SM in 3 years, been focusing on content! The private peepers thing is the worst part of SM for me, if it's still as bad as it used to be, I won't offer privates at all, exclusives only. Is it rare now, or does it still happen multiple times in every single private like it used to?

I have in my topic that I will block anyone who does a private or exclusive, less than 4 minutes. And I do. It still happens of course. And I'm just about at the point of only doing Exclusives too, so I understand that thinking.

JessRyan
11-15-2022, 11:23 AM
It still happens frequently. I put my private prices higher than my exclusive prices to encourage more exclusives and avoid the peepers.

okay, I've heard of girls doing just that and I'll try that too

Erika_Xstacy
11-15-2022, 11:43 AM
^^ time online has nothing to do with placement. I've seen it with models who have not streamed for months or YEARS, and when they do, boom they're always on the top row front page. And even with bad cam quality.
I don't have a clue why the placement is what it is. You'll see some on the top row, no privates not busy, talking about how slow it is...
I'm lower front page, busy as hell, private after private (sure I don't put in the hours) but time online isn't a factor either. How much you make? I usually make a good hourly rate, so that's not it either.
Cam quality? I'm hard wired with upload speed over what I need for 4K streaming.
I think favoritism and luck is. That's just business.
Support says what's required "for placement" for them as a business, but I don't believe it's for good placement on the front page. This is just my thoughts on placement.

ive seen models come back that had fixed placement and they dropped pages bc they were offline. They had been with sm since day 1 come back and not given their OG placement
but I’ve seen models take weeks off and not drop at all.

I’ve taken a month due to covid and I dropped to the third page.
when I took off a week for my dads death/funeral I dropped half the page.
I thought maybe 1-2 rows dropped for every week. That’s just speculation.
I was told we drop when time is taken off
years ago models said that they log on to register being online to trick the system. I’d ask lol how the fuck?
I wish I could take time off but I’d be poor lol
my first 5 years into Streamate …. to place high, I was told I had to wait for models to drop off but that was when pornstars and “contracted” models took up the first 5 rows. But then when I did porn I was told pornstars don’t automatically get high placemdbt lol go fuckn figure.

I hate giving my “experience” bc I’ve been with them since November 2008 lol 14 years almost every day sm has been graced by my presence lol

samanthachomiak
11-15-2022, 12:54 PM
It's so freaking dead this week I want to smash my head on my computer lol no wonder SM is adding an additional 25% if you stream 25 hours... I have no idea how I will even hit that kind of streaming number when it's THIS dead.

JessRyan
11-15-2022, 01:25 PM
ive seen models come back that had fixed placement and they dropped pages bc they were offline. They had been with sm since day 1 come back and not given their OG placement
but I’ve seen models take weeks off and not drop at all.

I’ve taken a month due to covid and I dropped to the third page.
when I took off a week for my dads death/funeral I dropped half the page.
I thought maybe 1-2 rows dropped for every week. That’s just speculation.
I was told we drop when time is taken off
years ago models said that they log on to register being online to trick the system. I’d ask lol how the fuck?
I wish I could take time off but I’d be poor lol
my first 5 years into Streamate …. to place high, I was told I had to wait for models to drop off but that was when pornstars and “contracted” models took up the first 5 rows. But then when I did porn I was told pornstars don’t automatically get high placemdbt lol go fuckn figure.

I hate giving my “experience” bc I’ve been with them since November 2008 lol 14 years almost every day sm has been graced by my presence lol

Wow, you've been there a long time. I just had to remind myself how long I've been there. My first day camming anywhere was on Streamate. Dec 28th 2014 A few months later I tried chaturbate, liked it okay but not anymore, and I tried MFC which I still like okay and do alright on mfc share.
SM is where my $$ is.
But yeah, placement is no rhyme or reason. It's a great mystery.
I wish it would just do a completely random auto-rotate of the first page. If you're live, you're in the rotation. It rotates every minute or so. As far as the member is concerned, he'll see "new" and different models every time he signs on! "new" at least he'll think she is. The member would benefit greatly with that. New and different keeps men interested and "charged up" Just ask a bull. And I'm talking about the animal.
I believe every model should have the chance to be on the front page. A model always stuck on page 4 or 5, She'd have a newly lit spark if she knew that was going to happen.

EllePurrs
11-15-2022, 02:30 PM
Someone didn't realize Gold is in dollars and not Tokens when paying 70 for SPH, LOL.

I'm originally from MFC and feel like the audience is expecting vanilla, token site vibes on SM this week. But a week ago it was all sissies and promiscuous tales. I had something like 10 sissies in a row. It's impossible for me to have a "brand" on here when traffic varies so wildly, haha.

Erika_Xstacy
11-15-2022, 02:30 PM
Wow, you've been there a long time. I just had to remind myself how long I've been there. My first day camming anywhere was on Streamate. Dec 28th 2014 A few months later I tried chaturbate, liked it okay but not anymore, and I tried MFC which I still like okay and do alright on mfc share.
SM is where my $$ is.
But yeah, placement is no rhyme or reason. It's a great mystery.
I wish it would just do a completely random auto-rotate of the first page. If you're live, you're in the rotation. It rotates every minute or so. As far as the member is concerned, he'll see "new" and different models every time he signs on! "new" at least he'll think she is. The member would benefit greatly with that. New and different keeps men interested and "charged up" Just ask a bull. And I'm talking about the animal.
I believe every model should have the chance to be on the front page. A model always stuck on page 4 or 5, She'd have a newly lit spark if she knew that was going to happen.

that idea has been thrown to them.. trust me. I was told to be consistent, the usual advice.

i did work for a site that did that and models figured out just to log off and log back on to stay in top rotation. it annoyed customers.

I guess my spark was to keep hiking up to the top and that obviously makes sm more money if the model shows up every day
for the first 7 years i worked 7 days a week, morning and night to get decent placement

DivineMissDeviant
11-15-2022, 02:50 PM
Thanks everyone. Yeah, I need to take it one day at a time. I think it hit me on Monday because Mum was due to have a digital autopsy. And this limbo between her death and the funeral is horrible. We might be able to start planning the funeral next week. We need to. I think we all need that closure so we can grieve properly x

anonamiss
11-15-2022, 03:01 PM
It's so freaking dead this week I want to smash my head on my computer lol no wonder SM is adding an additional 25% if you stream 25 hours... I have no idea how I will even hit that kind of streaming number when it's THIS dead.

just FYI it's only a 25% bonus if you earn at least $2500 (and do the hours.) otherwise the bonuses are 10% for $250+, 15% for $500+ and 20% for $1000+.

also in case anyone here is unaware, SM has done thanksgiving contests every year for the past six years so be prepared for that next week too. i assume they'll announce it soon. it's usually four consecutive 24-hour contests from wednesday through saturday (GMT)

Violet_Z
11-15-2022, 06:14 PM
I was all set for camming on bonus week. I did yesterday. Then last night, the shock left and the grief hit big style. Spent most of last night crying. Eyes like piss holes in the snow. Another 90 min crying session this afternoon. Look like something the dog sicked up. But I will be back on cam on Thursday. Sometimes, we need a mental health day.

I am sorry for your loss. I hope it gets easier. I know it makes it really hard to put on a happy face and cam for dudes when you are sad.

samanthachomiak
11-15-2022, 07:20 PM
just FYI it's only a 25% bonus if you earn at least $2500 (and do the hours.) otherwise the bonuses are 10% for $250+, 15% for $500+ and 20% for $1000+.

also in case anyone here is unaware, SM has done thanksgiving contests every year for the past six years so be prepared for that next week too. i assume they'll announce it soon. it's usually four consecutive 24-hour contests from wednesday through saturday (GMT)

It's just hard to hit that number and try to get the bonus when the traffic is so slow. Do you think it's because of black Friday and thanksgiving coming up in the US?

Erika_Xstacy
11-15-2022, 07:59 PM
itis slooooww today.
staying online with patience but damn

yesterday afternoon customers could not send their cam. a custi actually told me and
today custis are dead air and i showed offline when i was online. makes sense everyone went ghost
and the circle of doom started today logging off and on.

zeusydoo
11-15-2022, 08:14 PM
itis slooooww today.
staying online with patience but damn

yesterday afternoon customers could not send their cam. a custi actually told me and
today custis are dead air and i showed offline when i was online. makes sense everyone went ghost
and the circle of doom started today logging off and on.

OMG i am with you Erika today is like pulling bloody teeth

anonamiss
11-15-2022, 08:46 PM
It's just hard to hit that number and try to get the bonus when the traffic is so slow. Do you think it's because of black Friday and thanksgiving coming up in the US?

we could speculate endlessly why some people experience low traffic while others are doing fine. inflation, recession, holidays, glitches, etc... who knows. personally my hourly average this week has been higher than usual but I also took some time off the last few weeks so my regs were happy to see me back online. it's hard for me to gauge my true traffic since I've been busy with regs/favorites and therefore don't have a good read on how much "new" traffic is coming in.

regardless, it seems fairly clear that SM does bonuses and contests when they are expecting traffic to be lower (for a medley of potential reasons) to try to incentivize more models to stay on. and sometimes it's just really not worth it. the last bonus week we had, my hourly average dipped crazy low and I made the mistake of pushing for the bonus hours to try to make up for it. it hardly ended up being worth the time and effort. I was exhausted and discouraged by the end which made me less motivated to put in regular hours on the following normal week and it just threw me off my game. I should've just bailed and conserved energy to come back and smash it after the bonus was over.

my (future) advice is to work as often as possible on non contest/bonus times (or anytime you are generally thriving, just stay on) and hustle/save up so you can afford to take bad nights off without much worry. ive been on SM over 8 years - there will be terrible unworkable nights and sometimes they stretch over multiple consecutive shifts, but it always bounces back.

bigbum
11-16-2022, 12:54 AM
we could speculate endlessly why some people experience low traffic while others are doing fine. inflation, recession, holidays, glitches, etc... who knows. personally my hourly average this week has been higher than usual but I also took some time off the last few weeks so my regs were happy to see me back online. it's hard for me to gauge my true traffic since I've been busy with regs/favorites and therefore don't have a good read on how much "new" traffic is coming in.

regardless, it seems fairly clear that SM does bonuses and contests when they are expecting traffic to be lower (for a medley of potential reasons) to try to incentivize more models to stay on. and sometimes it's just really not worth it. the last bonus week we had, my hourly average dipped crazy low and I made the mistake of pushing for the bonus hours to try to make up for it. it hardly ended up being worth the time and effort. I was exhausted and discouraged by the end which made me less motivated to put in regular hours on the following normal week and it just threw me off my game. I should've just bailed and conserved energy to come back and smash it after the bonus was over.

my (future) advice is to work as often as possible on non contest/bonus times (or anytime you are generally thriving, just stay on) and hustle/save up so you can afford to take bad nights off without much worry. ive been on SM over 8 years - there will be terrible unworkable nights and sometimes they stretch over multiple consecutive shifts, but it always bounces back.

id say this summarizes exactly how I feel. I've been gone 3 weeks due to being sick and things have been VERY slow for me. no regs no customers just a few new lurkers and trolls asking if I have my period or for free flashes.
I'm still sick but now I feel pressured to get the bonus to make up for my MUCH lower (half my usual) hourly wage.

Nymphette99
11-16-2022, 12:58 AM
Dead yesterdsy. $18 in 2 and a half hours!

Ladybuggie
11-16-2022, 06:01 AM
Yesterday was probably the worst shift I've ever had on SM since I started in 2016. $1.5 and zero shows in 3 hours. Kind of impressive tbh lol. I'm really trying to do my hours for the bonus this week but damn they're making it difficult! I know traffic comes and goes and I've had some good days because of regs doing long shows and splitcamming/indie, but I don't remember a November as slow as this one traffic wise. Wild.

euro_princess
11-16-2022, 06:28 AM
Did anyone find it worth scheduling PPV messages for weeks in advance? I’m more worried of my content being rejected by SM, which I had issues in the past. But at the same time, I kinda abandoned the platform and always forget to send things.

samanthachomiak
11-16-2022, 09:39 AM
we could speculate endlessly why some people experience low traffic while others are doing fine. inflation, recession, holidays, glitches, etc... who knows. personally my hourly average this week has been higher than usual but I also took some time off the last few weeks so my regs were happy to see me back online. it's hard for me to gauge my true traffic since I've been busy with regs/favorites and therefore don't have a good read on how much "new" traffic is coming in.

regardless, it seems fairly clear that SM does bonuses and contests when they are expecting traffic to be lower (for a medley of potential reasons) to try to incentivize more models to stay on. and sometimes it's just really not worth it. the last bonus week we had, my hourly average dipped crazy low and I made the mistake of pushing for the bonus hours to try to make up for it. it hardly ended up being worth the time and effort. I was exhausted and discouraged by the end which made me less motivated to put in regular hours on the following normal week and it just threw me off my game. I should've just bailed and conserved energy to come back and smash it after the bonus was over.

my (future) advice is to work as often as possible on non contest/bonus times (or anytime you are generally thriving, just stay on) and hustle/save up so you can afford to take bad nights off without much worry. ive been on SM over 8 years - there will be terrible unworkable nights and sometimes they stretch over multiple consecutive shifts, but it always bounces back.


That's exactly what I was saying to myself last night. I appreciate your response my dude!

samanthachomiak
11-16-2022, 09:40 AM
Yesterday was probably the worst shift I've ever had on SM since I started in 2016. $1.5 and zero shows in 3 hours. Kind of impressive tbh lol. I'm really trying to do my hours for the bonus this week but damn they're making it difficult! I know traffic comes and goes and I've had some good days because of regs doing long shows and splitcamming/indie, but I don't remember a November as slow as this one traffic wise. Wild.

Girl, I feel you! Yesterday was my slowest day ever recorded lmao

xStellaBlue
11-16-2022, 11:05 AM
I've made 6.30 in 2 hours, and 3 of it was from an offline tip. I've never seen it so bad on here.

Hileooo3
11-16-2022, 11:19 AM
Does anyone kind of laugh at the idea of a bonus. Like I made $240 my cut but before their cut of 65% I made $685. So them “giving me back” $25 out of $685 that I actually earned… ha… but I get thats how their site works but man if we all boycot SM for a higher percentage of our earnings. That’d be nice…

littleprincessbella
11-16-2022, 02:30 PM
Does anyone kind of laugh at the idea of a bonus. Like I made $240 my cut but before their cut of 65% I made $685. So them “giving me back” $25 out of $685 that I actually earned… ha… but I get thats how their site works but man if we all boycot SM for a higher percentage of our earnings. That’d be nice… Literally yesterday, I got a 173 dollar tip, and cried because I got 60 dollars of it. I feel like we do need to boycott 35 percent is way below industry standard, and then they handicap us at the knees so we can't leave without starting over.
If we aren't going to boycott then we should all go to leadership together, and ask that something be done.

Erika_Xstacy
11-16-2022, 03:39 PM
Does anyone kind of laugh at the idea of a bonus. Like I made $240 my cut but before their cut of 65% I made $685. So them “giving me back” $25 out of $685 that I actually earned… ha… but I get thats how their site works but man if we all boycot SM for a higher percentage of our earnings. That’d be nice…


Literally yesterday, I got a 173 dollar tip, and cried because I got 60 dollars of it. I feel like we do need to boycott 35 percent is way below industry standard, and then they handicap us at the knees so we can't leave without starting over.
If we aren't going to boycott then we should all go to leadership together, and ask that something be done.

it sounds good
think about it like this....

that would require removing or cutting down affiliates % and implementing chargebacks bc we know they will do that. currently affiliates do eat the chargebacks but models do not.
models do like sm bc the traffic is already there

if sm let models opt in to something like this, what would you do?
models get 50-70% but you bring your own traffic to the site and be removed from all affiliates traffic. we have some big name promoters
OR
models get 35% and no need to bring traffic, only job is to convert be friendly, sexy, interact and convert that traffic

affiliates are important and models that have cammed cams, imlive, ifriends (closed down) can agree theses sites promoted hard at first but now I don't see squat and models get the piddly traffic left over.
cams.com doesnt even make it easy to cam, damn obs, all that drama just to cam a dead site. and none of those cover chargebacks.
I hate the 35% but I learned how to make the most of the site by promoting it.

littleprincessbella
11-16-2022, 03:50 PM
Would it though? Honestly it seems like they are being greedy for a site that doesn't function? I get that they need to take a percentage, but plenty of sites bring traffic, and give models a higher percentage. I'm honestly working on leaving the site.

Erika_Xstacy
11-16-2022, 04:03 PM
Would it though? Honestly it seems like they are being greedy for a site that doesn't function? I get that they need to take a percentage, but plenty of sites bring traffic, and give models a higher percentage. I'm honestly working on leaving the site.

what do you mean by not function?
i cam everyday and its rare I have streaming issues.
if i do have issues, i hit up support, they say they dont know whats going on even though models are bitching everywhere and then its magically fixed lol

im not being a smartass, i feel like this is a smartass question but its not and it only is if you are leaving sm for another site..... i just assume you are.
why do you have to work to leave sm if you are going to another cam site that has built in traffic?

littleprincessbella
11-16-2022, 04:09 PM
Hey it's really awesome that you aren't having issues. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic or a smartass, and I've been on SM for years, and would rather build up a following on another site before completely leaving to make sure that I know how the new site functions.

anonamiss
11-16-2022, 04:12 PM
35 percent is way below industry standard

what "industry standard"? SM is a private-based/pay to play site so you have to compare apples to apples here. SM is clearly the leader in that regard; the other ones erika mentioned either have garbage traffic, pay an even lower percentage, or do not cover chargebacks. (edit: and if there are other/newer ones i'm unaware of that are actually worth checking out, i am all ears!)

sure, token sites technically pay out 50% but the level of shitty freeloader traffic is insane. to me it seems way harder to convert a good paying customer on a token site than it is on SM. and fansites/indie directories might pay 75-80% but you're on your own for driving and sustaining your traffic.

anonamiss
11-16-2022, 04:19 PM
Hey it's really awesome that you aren't having issues. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic or a smartass, and I've been on SM for years, and would rather build up a following on another site before completely leaving to make sure that I know how the new site functions.

i'm curious what other site(s) are you considering switching to?

Erika_Xstacy
11-16-2022, 04:21 PM
Hey it's really awesome that you aren't having issues. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic or a smartass, and I've been on SM for years, and would rather build up a following on another site before completely leaving to make sure that I know how the new site functions.

noooooo I didnt want to seem like i was being a smartass by asking why leave
i wasnt saying you were being a smartass

littleprincessbella
11-16-2022, 04:21 PM
I'm still trying to figure that out. I am thinking about doing a token site like chaturbate. Honestly somewhere that doesn't do contests.

littleprincessbella
11-16-2022, 04:22 PM
Oh that makes sense!

BigBerkinBagxxx
11-16-2022, 05:06 PM
it sounds good
think about it like this....

that would require removing or cutting down affiliates % and implementing chargebacks bc we know they will do that. currently affiliates do eat the chargebacks but models do not.
models do like sm bc the traffic is already there

if sm let models opt in to something like this, what would you do?
models get 50-70% but you bring your own traffic to the site and be removed from all affiliates traffic. we have some big name promoters
OR
models get 35% and no need to bring traffic, only job is to convert be friendly, sexy, interact and convert that traffic

affiliates are important and models that have cammed cams, imlive, ifriends (closed down) can agree theses sites promoted hard at first but now I don't see squat and models get the piddly traffic left over.
cams.com doesnt even make it easy to cam, damn obs, all that drama just to cam a dead site. and none of those cover chargebacks.
I hate the 35% but I learned how to make the most of the site by promoting it.


I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say they need to take 65% of EVERY models earnings to cover chargebacks. There are plenty of sites that don’t take 65% and still cover chargebacks. It’s a bit of a reach. I get girls like the site because of the traffic but let’s be honest, Streamate is taking advantage of us with that high of a cut into money we worked for. No models, no cut for them.

BigBerkinBagxxx
11-16-2022, 05:08 PM
I'm still trying to figure that out. I am thinking about doing a token site like chaturbate. Honestly somewhere that doesn't do contests.


once you build up a fanbase on cb you can do well. I’ve made more on CB (well, with my cut that I get from them) on any given shift than I have on SM. It can just be inconsistent at times if you dont have a big enough following yet but you can cross promote to drive more traffic to CB, and also promote your other sites on there (if you have any, like OF. I’ve gotten a lot of subscribers on my OF from streaminng on CB)