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CamgirlScotland
10-01-2015, 08:04 AM
Do people claim the Admin Charge as expenses on their self assessment?
The VAT on the admin charge is deducted at transfer along with the admin charge so it's all part of our expenses as it was before.
RebeccaT
10-01-2015, 08:19 AM
Do people claim the Admin Charge as expenses on their self assessment?
You can only do that if you use the pre-admin income figure in your accounts.
CatBBW
10-01-2015, 08:23 AM
Yeah that same thing happened to me. 10 mins usually costs the customer15 credits. But for a 10 minute booking on Skype I was only given 12. It looks like they're taking VAT from the rates we charge, but haven't increased the rate the customer pays to account for the VAT. Even though the price is increased on the profile. Really annoyed about this
Mine has been adjusted to show VAT though - did the customer change the price when booking? Or did it say 15 credits and you only received 12?
CatBBW
10-01-2015, 12:49 PM
The skype issue needs to be pointed out to them...we should be paid the amount that we set. Unless they think that skype is a service they provide to us! The booking system is a service but there hasn't been a charge for that before.
That's a point! Why are they charging VAT on Skype? Has anyone asked/received a reply?
MessyChick
10-01-2015, 12:53 PM
dont forget, if the customer isnt in the UK then it may have been a different rate than 20%
Classy_Katy
10-01-2015, 12:54 PM
An idea is being circulated that customers are charged 1.20 for 1 credit...it saves messing with our prices. We can contact AW and suggest it.
MessyChick
10-01-2015, 12:56 PM
The skype issue needs to be pointed out to them...we should be paid the amount that we set. Unless they think that skype is a service they provide to us! The booking system is a service but there hasn't been a charge for that before.
I take it we're getting paid the right amount on directcam...
i dont understand, why is this any different to using JCI? The customer needs to pay VAT on both skype shows and JCI shows surey? or am i missing what you are saying
eta: read further back.... so the customer isnt being charged VAT but VAT is being taken off our rates? well im disabling skype for a bit then!
Classy_Katy
10-01-2015, 01:31 PM
The customer is being charged VAT on skype shows because our prices are showing higher on our profiles. What they are doing is charging us VAT too on the whole amount we charge for a skype show. It is different from JC1 because (presumably) we are being charged VAT on the JC1 charge. For skype bookings there has never been a charge, we are only charged to give a show through justcamit because we use a software that they provide for us (presumably they pay justcamit producers to use it on their platform). They do not provide skype to us, Microsoft does. To be charged VAT on the full cost of a skype show is a bit much when on directcam we only pay VAT on use for JC1 (haven't seen that we do but assume it)....and it's a bit much when we have never had a cost for skype bookings before. I think they may have just made a mistake and it needs clarifying.
sexysusie
10-01-2015, 01:35 PM
OMG go to the online now pages and check out the group price of a girl then click as if you're going into group. you'll see there's an EXTRA 20% on top of the rate that is shown, which is ALREADY 20% more than she's actually charging. She's then paying an extra 6% fee to AW on her earnings, giving AW a MASSIVE 40% increase in what they were getting before. in other words they're taking the VAT AND giving themselves a pay rise!
Classy_Katy
10-01-2015, 01:43 PM
Wow...you've double checked that is definitely 20% on top of the +VAT rate and not just a breakdown? Just have to ask because that is unreal! Going to have a look now too...
I must be clicking on the wrong thing because I can't make that show up.
justme23
10-01-2015, 01:46 PM
TIPS are free of VAT charge, yay!
sexysusie
10-01-2015, 02:12 PM
Wow...you've double checked that is definitely 20% on top of the +VAT rate and not just a breakdown? Just have to ask because that is unreal! Going to have a look now too...
I must be clicking on the wrong thing because I can't make that show up.
First line of girls in group http://i.imgur.com/FRP3PoJ.jpg
Now if we click on the lovely Chloe who is showing as £1.80 for group this is what we see http://i.imgur.com/sofNzmD.jpg
Classy_Katy
10-01-2015, 02:18 PM
Got you now! I went in on this page, top left corner of main page, http://www.adultwork.com/TV/Categories.asp and I entered group a couple of times and there was no message that the price would be different...whether they actually get charged more, I don't know. Wow!!! I wonder if that is a mistake, as with charging VAT on the whole of our skype income.
seicento
10-01-2015, 02:20 PM
It's a glitch.
01/10/2015 22:24 Debit DirectCam Start: 1 min(s) at 0.93/min with(modelname) -0.93
DirectCam Continue: 1.5 min(s) at 0.93/min with(modelname)-1.40
Model rate for group on the dc page was showing 0.93 ,as I clicked to go group was showing I`ll be charged 1.15 but I was charged 0.93.So it`s a glitch,chill.
justme23
10-01-2015, 02:35 PM
42761
I can confirm, i made a test with the "Katie_Baby" so she's having 2.96 rate for a group session and the site will charge me 3.96 instead, so they charge me as customer another 20% over the other 20% percent added to our rates already, that's crazy, why they would charge customers with 40%? Really something is tricky on here, and can't see yet what... and why.... and i still checked my rates before i click post on here to be sure that they still our rates with the 20% already added over our prices we set manually... wow...
I bet that the customers don't know that our rates been increased automatically by the site with 20%, they believe that we modified manually the rates, because we want to... maybe because we want to recover our 20%, something is really tricky... wtf... where the other 20% goes?
Why they didn t left our rates as they was already, yesterday? and they could add the VAT fee like this, and everyone was happy, we was still showing our rates as we wanted and they would know that they have to pay the VAT, because they have to....
seicento
10-01-2015, 02:52 PM
42761
I can confirm, i made a test with the "Katie_Baby" so she's having 2.96 rate for a group session and the site will charge me 3.96 instead, so they charge me as customer another 20% over the other 20% percent added to our rates already, that's crazy, why they would charge customers with 40%? Really something is tricky on here, and can't see yet what... and why.... and i still checked my rates before i click post on here to be sure that they still our rates with the 20% already added over our prices we set manually... wow...
U can confirm WHAT?Did you go grp/pvt and was charged more than her price states?I guess NOT.I just posted above that it'a glitch ffs.I went in a group and was charged the CORRECT amount,no need for more drama and suppositions.
justme23
10-01-2015, 03:15 PM
Chill down sugar, i didn t saw your post when i post mine, thanks ;)
MessyChick
10-01-2015, 04:26 PM
customers wont know its a glitch though. Hopefully it will be gone and forgotten about by the weekend <3
Classy_Katy
10-01-2015, 11:22 PM
Nothing more off putting than suddenly seeing you're going to be charged even more...they need to fix it asap.
What we need is for them to charge 1 credit at £1.20.
CatBBW
10-02-2015, 01:04 AM
Adultwork appears to be down now.
EDITED - it's back now, but lagging.
Vlodina
10-02-2015, 02:55 AM
Been off for two days, this isn't great is it? Despite the low traffic we made a high percentage that made it worth it for me. Just done some sums and on the cash out page I am getting 63.99% now after admin fee + VAT.
However, when you take into consideration the extra money that customers are paying which we are not receiving, we are only making 53.29% of what is spent on us.
Sigh.
MessyChick
10-02-2015, 02:59 AM
im going to stick with it, but so far my room has been like a ghost town since the changes :(
seicento
10-02-2015, 07:22 AM
It`s pissing me off .All I got today was "taboo bb ?"I dont do any taboo because of rules,I was already suspended for another shit,I don`t need another suspension.Those of you offering taboo,is there any ok with aw rules(which I doubt but asking anyway )?I see a lot models are getting away with offering such things but considering my nationality I`d be banned next minute :)) plus I`m not willing to encourage sick stuff for some £££.
It depends on the person what they consider taboo.
Most guys that ask me for taboo chat enjoy stealing their wives/gf panties and wearing them or wearing their clothes etc.
Then there is also the sick taboo guys who want to fantasise about minors, I block them.
seicento
10-02-2015, 08:09 AM
It depends on the person what they consider taboo.
Most guys that ask me for taboo chat enjoy stealing their wives/gf panties and wearing them or wearing their clothes etc.
Then there is also the sick taboo guys who want to fantasise about minors, I block them.
Thankyou.
Yes,I tend to only get the sick ones so I don`t even ask anymore what they are into.Guess I`ll start asking again ,you never know what can cross their minds.
sexysusie
10-02-2015, 10:48 AM
What did you get suspended for. i am fine with taboo and had no issues so far.
seicento
10-02-2015, 11:19 AM
What did you get suspended for. i am fine with taboo and had no issues so far.
Suspended recently because my VPN turned on itself and I didn't noticed and in the past for having my cat in free chat for short,she jumped on my bed and someone reported me.I guess next I'll be banned so I'm carefull what I do or say on cam that's why I avoid anything taboo.I mean..I don't know exactly what is it OK to discuss/roleplay without getting myself banned this time,I know for sure bestiality,pedophilia,rape,incest are not allowed and I would not encourage such things anyway but I think it is not limited to that.
CatBBW
10-02-2015, 11:29 AM
Suspended recently because my VPN turned on itself and I didn't noticed and in the past for having my cat in free chat for short,she jumped on my bed and someone reported me.I guess next I'll be banned so I'm carefull what I do or say on cam that's why I avoid anything taboo.I mean..I don't know exactly what is it OK to discuss/roleplay without getting myself banned this time,I know for sure bestiality,pedophilia,rape,incest are not allowed and I would not encourage such things anyway but I think it is not limited to that.
You're sort of 'allowed' to TALK about FANTASY with those (as they don't watch or monitor actively), you wouldn't be allowed to act it out (with a child, animal etc) or give out links to child porn etc. It's a grey area that isn't policed (on cam) but you'll get told off/suspended if included in the profile.
belleoftheball2
10-02-2015, 11:31 AM
This is the only thing they have specified in their help pages for what isn't allowed:
Any activity that goes against the AdultWork.com "Open and Honest" club-philosophy is likely to result in membership termination this includes any deceitful act, against the Site or it's members any falsified information provision and any activity involving minors or non-consensual, be it roleplay or otherwise.
Then under the TOS you cannot:
Then under distribute illegal, copyright infringing, indecent or offensive material or any messages or content that may incite disorder or encourage illegal activities or that causes or may cause harm to minors or animals;
I think it isn't policed beyond explicitly offering these things in your profile, though? Not trying to encourage any ladies to break the rules of course but I see chicas offering "extreme taboo depravity" etc. so I assume they are no limits.
seicento
10-02-2015, 11:48 AM
You're sort of 'allowed' to TALK about FANTASY with those (as they don't watch or monitor actively), you wouldn't be allowed to act it out (with a child, animal etc) or give out links to child porn etc. It's a grey area that isn't policed (on cam) but you'll get told off/suspended if included in the profile.
Honestly I don't even want to talk about about what I mentioned above,they make me uncomfortable.As for what they are monitoring,if and when...I'm under european advisor and I have a guess that we are monitored while indep from other countries nope.
TawnyAsstronut
10-02-2015, 08:50 PM
It`s pissing me off .All I got today was "taboo bb ?"I dont do any taboo because of rules,I was already suspended for another shit,I don`t need another suspension.Those of you offering taboo,is there any ok with aw rules(which I doubt but asking anyway )?I see a lot models are getting away with offering such things but considering my nationality I`d be banned next minute :)) plus I`m not willing to encourage sick stuff for some £££.
I always wondering about what taboo mean. I see many performers with taboo written into their usernames, and offering 'taboo' in their special offers and i wonder what specifically it mean. If it mean something specific against AW rules I think that AW would start by banning anyone who has taboo attached to their name or profile, so whatever taboo is, it must be okay. Maybe i change my name to taboo something becuz i only earn 3 credit for last 5 hour >:(
MessyChick
10-03-2015, 03:51 AM
If someone asks me for taboo it always, always means underage.
So because the rules are not clear is that why girls get away with offering things like scat, which isn't allowed in uploaded clips?
MissLouiseKay
10-03-2015, 03:51 AM
Sorry if this has already been said, but keep all the VAT invoices on adultwork which will be available after 20th october and submit them with you expenses to your accountant at year end, as the amount you have paid in vat comes off your tax bill.
It appears people on here stress way too much about adultwork, I've been keeping an eye on it and its still been busy and ticking over nicely.
pinklemonade0
10-03-2015, 04:18 AM
This is what has happened to me on adultwork recently:
my best customer can't top up and buy credits, he's been trying for days and wants to cam/chat and can't.
when i go on cam, people's writing appears in the room but they don't appear in the user list and it doesn't tell me when they come in or out
it disconnects every 30 min to one hour with no warning
on phone, it disconnects in the middle of calls and the call quality is very bad
people have been in the room unable to see what i'm typing then emailing me about it, or saying the screen is white or black with no picture
the audio was totally fucked yesterday and is fine today.
in one private it kept saying the balance/time was 0.00 and i thought i wasn't getting paid for it which stressed me out to be honest (i was paid for it).
i don't know whether to give up on it completely, it just is a load of stress right now. I don't have any of these issues on other sites, just a few clicks and i'm broadcasting with no problems.
seicento
10-03-2015, 04:30 AM
^ Have you tried both versions of jci ?the installed software and the online one ?
This had never happened to me,I use the installed jci.
pinklemonade0
10-03-2015, 04:36 AM
hi seicento, yes, thank you, i tried both! justcamit and justcamit lite... checked for updates on both... and also on two laptops now... (because I wasn't sure if it was windows 10 issues). i'll give it one more day, today... and maybe tomorrow. if it carries on, i think i may take a break off it and then see if it settles down, because it's putting me in a bad mood to be honest, lol. i just don't want to lose my best customer though.
Essie
10-03-2015, 05:20 AM
AW has been fine for me this morning until something bizarre just happened. Mid session with a regular he disappeared, he sent me a message on twitter saying he had been booted out by AW - when he logged back it in said he was unverified and his email address is not valid. This looks terrible and he has credits on there that he now can't get access to. Luckily he doesn't seem to mind too much but suggested we go to another site.
Does anyone have any idea why this happened or what to do about it? I imagine probably not but this may well be happening to others as well so I shall report it to AW.
Keep ploughing on though, as up until that point I had no problems and was making as much as I normally do on a Saturday xx
pinklemonade0
10-03-2015, 05:48 AM
That's what happened to my best customer before the problem with not being able to buy credits/top up. He lost his profile twice and couldn't get on. We have no idea why. Good luck with sorting it out.
TawnyAsstronut
10-03-2015, 05:49 AM
If someone asks me for taboo it always, always means underage.
So because the rules are not clear is that why girls get away with offering things like scat, which isn't allowed in uploaded clips?
I thinks it mean underage i alway thought it a codeword for it but i dun know for sure because i dun play that way. i dun do scat or vomit or pain or underage so i nots too smart about this. i know it bad for my earning though :(
Essie
10-03-2015, 05:54 AM
I sent AW a message so if I get a response I will let you know. Its very odd as like your customer he was one of the ones that spends alot so he would be verified by his credit purchases surely?! Who knows at this point! xx
MissLouiseKay
10-03-2015, 06:00 AM
I thinks it mean underage i alway thought it a codeword for it but i dun know for sure because i dun play that way. i dun do scat or vomit or pain or underage so i nots too smart about this. i know it bad for my earning though :(
I've never done taboo as personally I find it vile, You don't need to offer taboo to make money
seicento
10-03-2015, 06:18 AM
hi seicento, yes, thank you, i tried both! justcamit and justcamit lite... checked for updates on both... and also on two laptops now... (because I wasn't sure if it was windows 10 issues). i'll give it one more day, today... and maybe tomorrow. if it carries on, i think i may take a break off it and then see if it settles down, because it's putting me in a bad mood to be honest, lol. i just don't want to lose my best customer though.
That sucks and their support as well.Sorry I can`t help more .I`m using win7 and never had issues and I guess I`ll never upgrade to another windows lol,fearing I might have problems with all the softwares I use.
Blonde-Ambition
10-03-2015, 06:24 AM
Sorry if this has already been said, but keep all the VAT invoices on adultwork which will be available after 20th october and submit them with you expenses to your accountant at year end, as the amount you have paid in vat comes off your tax bill.
It appears people on here stress way too much about adultwork, I've been keeping an eye on it and its still been busy and ticking over nicely.
Thank you for this Louise, is this only if ur VAT registered tho?
CatBBW
10-03-2015, 07:20 AM
Thank you for this Louise, is this only if ur VAT registered tho?
No, she's right. You offset it against your expenses. You can even claim it back *IF* you are VAT registered.
But think about it. You pay VAT on EVERYTHING. You don't separate VAT from the other stuff, so why should you for AW? You paid it, it was an expense.
MissNaughty
10-03-2015, 08:30 AM
hows everyone finding AW today been logged on for hrs for a poxy 28 creds thought id jump on before the england rugby game started 3 hrs later and still logged on but dead as ... zzzzzzz how you ladies finding today ? x
ROSIECAM
10-03-2015, 09:31 AM
Had one phone chat for 5 mins and a short DirectCam all adding up to 13 credits boo
miss cleo
10-03-2015, 10:43 AM
I've made a quarter of what I usually make:(
Classy_Katy
10-03-2015, 11:12 AM
I was online for DirectIM for a couple of hours this morning...I didn't even get anyone in free chat!
Kinkybitch
10-03-2015, 11:15 AM
Is adultwork down for anyone? The main page for directcam isn't loading for me.
ETA: Scrap that it's working now
seicento
10-03-2015, 11:17 AM
Is adultwork down for anyone? The main page for directcam isn't loading for me.
That happened daytime too a few times.Right now it's loading for me.