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sexysusie
10-08-2015, 01:58 PM
UTR is your unique tax reference code given by HMRC when you registred as a business in the UK. you can find it on any correspondence you have from them and the online portal where you usually file your returns https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/information/help?helpcategory=security&helpid=UniqueTaxpayReference

Put this number into the new box on AW at http://www.adultwork.com/VATDetails.asp (or use the VAT number box if you have a vat number)

The VAT on the admin fee is then waived as you are classed as a business customer (B2B) and NOT a consumer (B2C).

If you are NOT VAT registered - Just fill in your UTR and upload ID and you continue paying taxes in the normal way through self assessment. you will still pay VAT on the things you BUY from AW (featuring, positioning etc) and cannot claim this back, but you will not pay the extra 6% vat on the admin charge.

If you ARE VAT registered - You will still be liable to account for VAT in other EU member states and elsewhere but as our only 'customers' are the camsites and we do not raise invoices or charge them, there is no tax to pay on this, it's just a box ticking exercise. Ask your accountant for further information on input and output tax and the reverse charge provision in this case. You will not pay the 6% VAT on the admin fee. you will still pay VAT on everything you buy from AW, but can claim this back as it will be an input tax.

You might want to contact AW about any refund that may be due to you for charges since october 1st.

Call HMRC on 0300 200 3700 if you want to go over any of this.

TawnyAsstronut
10-08-2015, 09:09 PM
That would depend on where the customer is located. I'm in Asia, and the rate is showing as my actual rate, not a VAT adjusted one. I wonder if they will take out the VAT when I cash out my credits. I haven't been working, so I'll have to wait to see about that.

That is because you are already verified as non EU. When an EU customer clicks to take you into shows they will see the higher rate reflecting the incorporated VAT. It is a function of your account, and not your IP address. That's why the customers have to jump through all the hoops proving their location.

Classy_Katy
10-09-2015, 02:09 AM
Am I being charged VAT twice on Skype bookings? wtf.

Email AW if this is happening, we should not be charged VAT on our own shows at all, only on the services AW provide to us. Because of the booking system though, it can get complicated. AW confirmed that we are not charged VAT on our skype shows and also said "It really is quite complicated because with webcam bookings the customer and provider can negotiate. So he enters 10 credits and we remove VAT from that = 8.33 to the provider. She accepts but ups the price to 10 credits, he now has to confirm at 12 credits."

MessyChick
10-09-2015, 03:13 AM
So i filed in my UTR but it also says this...

Proof of Commercial Activity

Trading entities in the UK, Germany and Ireland that are not registered for VAT must provide evidence of commercial activity for that entity at its registered address.
Examples of this include: contracts, business letterheads, publicity material, certificates from fiscal authorities and tax statements

Um, well i dont use my address on anything business wise and I lived somewhere else when i did the last tax return :/

eta: ive tried with a screenshot of my online tax account, lets see if that works

PS susie, ive professed my love for you previously but i just have to again! THANK YOU YOU UTTER UTTER BABE

miss cleo
10-09-2015, 04:00 AM
^^Yes i second that, you have made my day Sexysusie, many thanks for the info. I have put in my tax ref, uploaded mt passport and a pic of a tax return with my address and tax number visible so fingers crossed...

CatBBW
10-09-2015, 04:24 AM
UTR is your unique tax reference code given by HMRC when you registred as a business in the UK. you can find it on any correspondence you have from them and the online portal where you usually file your returns https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/information/help?helpcategory=security&helpid=UniqueTaxpayReference

Put this number into the new box on AW at http://www.adultwork.com/VATDetails.asp (or use the VAT number box if you have a vat number)

The VAT on the admin fee is then waived as you are classed as a business customer (B2B) and NOT a consumer (B2C).

If you are NOT VAT registered - Just fill in your UTR and upload ID and you continue paying taxes in the normal way through self assessment. you will still pay VAT on the things you BUY from AW (featuring, positioning etc) and cannot claim this back, but you will not pay the extra 6% vat on the admin charge.

If you ARE VAT registered - You will still be liable to account for VAT in other EU member states and elsewhere but as our only 'customers' are the camsites and we do not raise invoices or charge them, there is no tax to pay on this, it's just a box ticking exercise. Ask your accountant for further information on input and output tax and the reverse charge provision in this case. You will not pay the 6% VAT on the admin fee. you will still pay VAT on everything you buy from AW, but can claim this back as it will be an input tax.

You might want to contact AW about any refund that may be due to you for incorrectly levied VAT charges since october 1st.

Call HMRC on 0300 200 3700 if you want to go over any of this.

Susie - THANK YOU!! I have copied this over to the thread on Saafe.

MessyChick
10-09-2015, 04:40 AM
i wonder if anyone will get a refund or is that going to be more hassle than its worth haha

CatBBW
10-09-2015, 05:13 AM
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tropo
10-09-2015, 05:29 AM
I am a verified model in Asia - only work on Direct Cam. I have read the VAT related articles under help, but it is still unclear if I need to provide additional information or not - and if I will pay VAT on Administration fees or not. Does anyone know?

CatBBW
10-09-2015, 07:18 AM
I've just been approved, but what does this mean on my transfer page please?

VAT on these services is to be paid by [my name] under the Reverse Charge Provisions.

sexysusie
10-09-2015, 10:45 AM
I've just been approved, but what does this mean on my transfer page please?

VAT on these services is to be paid by [my name] under the Reverse Charge Provisions.

As a UK business we are subject to what's called the reverse charge, all it means it that we don't pay the VAT through AW but we are still responsible for accounting for it ourselves. If we were VAT registered we'd do that by putting it down on our form although there'd still be nothing to pay as we do not invoice/charge anything so it would just be a box ticking exercise.

HOWEVER most of us are not VAT registered so reverse charge doesn't apply, you just carry on as before paying taxes through self assessment. All that has changed is you're not paying an extra 6% to AW x

**DAILYPAY UPDATE - Any girls on DailyPay, admin will be putting HIS details in on our behalf so no need to do anything yourself x

miss cleo
10-09-2015, 11:18 AM
They have accepted my details yay! No more vat for me :)

CatBBW
10-10-2015, 05:25 AM
As a UK business we are subject to what's called the reverse charge, all it means it that we don't pay the VAT through AW but we are still responsible for accounting for it ourselves. If we were VAT registered we'd do that by putting it down on our form although there'd still be nothing to pay as we do not invoice/charge anything so it would just be a box ticking exercise.

HOWEVER most of us are not VAT registered so reverse charge doesn't apply, you just carry on as before paying taxes through self assessment. All that has changed is you're not paying an extra 6% to AW x

**DAILYPAY UPDATE - Any girls on DailyPay, admin will be putting HIS details in on our behalf so no need to do anything yourself x

Thanks, that's what I thought, it just worried me that I had made more work for myself!

beauvoir
10-10-2015, 08:04 AM
I've sent it all off so fingers crossed.

LouSexy
10-11-2015, 12:46 PM
Hey girls,
Sorry if this has already been mentioned but has anyone else noticed weird credit amount charges?! Mine have suddenly changed to really obscure amounts like, for example, x.35 grp and x.96 pvt. Normally I have it as x.99 or x.00. It's also changed my pre-booked charges as well. This is so annoying! Why??

atarii
10-11-2015, 01:08 PM
Its because 20% VAT has been added to your prices automatically by the site.

MessyChick
10-11-2015, 11:25 PM
you dont actually have your prices that low though do you lou?

is anyone else getting random notifications from this thread? i subscribed to it when the whole VAT thing kicked off and now im getting rogue notifications about replies

tropo
10-12-2015, 12:42 AM
Its because 20% VAT has been added to your prices automatically by the site.

This will depend on the geographical location of the person logging onto the site. If the person is outside of Europe, the model's chosen prices will show without the added VAT showing.

Blonde-Ambition
10-12-2015, 06:24 AM
I am getting anxiety so bad from how dead AW has been the last week! :(
is anyone else finding it so quiet?
I'm debating wheter to drop my rates?!
xx

MessyChick
10-12-2015, 07:03 AM
of all the things you can do to make more money, dropping your rates should be waaaaay down the list not the first thing xx

seicento
10-12-2015, 08:09 AM
I am getting anxiety so bad from how dead AW has been the last week! :(
is anyone else finding it so quiet?
I'm debating wheter to drop my rates?!
xx

Quiet?Let's better say dead.I've not had a show since october 4th.Yup,8 days ,0 earnings.And no one can tell me that it's my fault as I do ok on other sites .I lowered my rates,it didn't help.I would probably get some shows if I'd set back my old rates but that would mean paying vat from my own pocket.Which I don't want.I rather quit aw than paying the stupid vat from my money.I wonder how many customers think the same .

Classy_Katy
10-12-2015, 08:25 AM
Mid-month is always slower but I wonder if some guys are off looking at other sites with the price increases...as I understand it though, AW if the cheapest camsite going, other than watching girls in free on other sites, so they should come back. I haven't been able to cam since the beginning of August, so I don't know how it is now for me yet.

justme23
10-12-2015, 08:44 AM
I've contacted AW regard the VAT discounted of my webcam bookings sessions and they said, that they don't charge us VAT of our earnings, and now i am pretty sure that the guys are lowering the amount of credits, they want us to absorb the VAT on skype bookings as they can't do anything against this on DirectCam sessions, so they try on webcam sessions, and is about new members i never saw before, because my regulars seems that they do respect my rates. I made some math and they lowered the amount with 20% less and others lowered including with even more... 40%, wtf... fuck them... i leave always the booking to expire... and i make them booking until they do respect my rates or they can move their ass on DirectCam if not ... fuck them , i not want cheap arses anymore ... so after the session they can leave negative feedback... cheap arses have to be avoided... one time i have accepted a cheap guy and he left me negative feedback because he expected the moon for 10 credits, wtf!

Classy_Katy
10-12-2015, 10:29 AM
I posted this earlier...I think it is the guys reducing the price on skype - AW confirmed that we are not charged VAT on our skype shows and also said "It really is quite complicated because with webcam bookings the customer and provider can negotiate. So he enters 10 credits and we remove VAT from that = 8.33 to the provider. She accepts but ups the price to 10 credits, he now has to confirm at 12 credits."

miss cleo
10-12-2015, 10:30 AM
Last week was awful for me but Saturday Sunday and today have been amazing. I think the guys are coming back ☺

Blonde-Ambition
10-12-2015, 11:21 AM
it has been horrendous since Friday for me! I literally don't know what to do!
I have made new vids and uploaded new pics but it's dead!
never ever been this quiet :(

MessyChick
10-13-2015, 01:50 AM
im doing ok for the time that im putting in. Im not on right now because my front door is being fixed and i have a house inspection any time before lunch, im logged into IM with the sound off though.

Most of 'my guys' wouldnt like it anywhere else i dont think, english perverts are totally different to the american guys who want to speak to the popular girl who has 40k instagram fans who is perky mcperk all day long. Those girls do great with their crows, and im not knocking them, id love to be like that if i didnt hate people so much

eta: now is definitely a good time to look at a second site if you dont already have one, it gives you time to get established and get fans there before this xmas rush i keep hearing about (its my first xmas on cam so i may be totally wrong haha)

TawnyAsstronut
10-13-2015, 05:45 AM
So AW r charging us 20% of 35% admin fee 4 direct cam, which is 7%, so now we earnings 58% instead of 65% :( BUT 58% of 0 is 0 so haha on them!! anyone wants 2 get the moneu back need raise old rate by 7% for directcam and 6% for skype and sales.

They getting 7% frum us an 20% frum EU customer an they in cyprus an not EU so thy just give themselve 27% raise!! i hopes they use some of thats 2 increase traffic cuz it dead now :( i out of biznes an i dun even lives in EU :(

sexysusie
10-13-2015, 06:37 AM
They are definitely charging VAT on skypes. I got a few bookings last week and the amount that came through was the amount i charge and NOT the amount shown on my page. AW are charging 20% extra as vat ON THE 30% ADMIN CHARGE WHEN YOU CASHOUT, SO AN EXTRA 6%. But if you upload proof of eing a business (hmrc docs, screenshot of the online portal, vat number, ltd co info etc) they will waive the extra fee. you will still pay 20% vat on everything you buy on the site though.

Classy_Katy
10-13-2015, 07:43 AM
Only the customer should be paying VAT on Skype shows...not us, if it goes through as less than the price we set, it will be the customer changing it. Otherwise email AW as they confirmed that we are not being charge VAT for skype.

sexysusie
10-13-2015, 09:57 AM
No sorry i was talking about the GUYS paying vat on skypes, not us. i got the rates i set although the guys see it as 20% more.

jessajones
10-13-2015, 12:28 PM
Hey guys, first time poster here!

Can anyone help me with a bizarre issue regarding credits on AW?

Firstly, whenever i went to transfer credits, AW would tell me that transferring the full balance on my account was not possible, as i was requesting more credits than were in it - i wasn't. I looked this up on the site and it told me that this would be because i've purchased things using credits - i haven't.

I ran the automatic check AW offers in regards to this issue, and now, for some reason, all the credits i earned on one day last week aren't available to transfer anymore, despite me having not processed them! Two payments from clients from that evening are still marked as 'available for transfer', randomly. On my statement, my balance also suddenly goes down by about £130!
I requested a bank transfer that day, but about 6 hours before commencing any work. It's as if all the credits i earned later that day have vanished in to thin air, which is obviously pretty distressing, considering there's not a lot i can do on the actual site to get help. The credits i earned today, however, are marked as ready to be transferred at the appropriate time tomorrow.

Going a bit crazy over this, when i went to the transfer request form just a couple hours ago i had a huge chunk more money in my account. It has literally just vanished. Please, please help!

Any thoughts?


*Edit*
It seems, looking at the statement, that after i left a group chat with 2 people, my credits statement acknowledges both the payments from these two people and reads as follows:

Starts at 66.70
Goes up to 222.31 after one of these people in group chat paid 163.80 (facility fee -8.19)
Then, it goes back down to 90.37 after the other person in group chat paid 24.92 (facility fee -1.25)
So, the statement accepts both the clients payments, but then continues as though the transaction of 163.80 never happened.

The weirdest part, though, is that these two transactions are the only ones available for transfer for that day. All the preceding ones are just... not available for transfer.



Thanks in advance!
J

Heather7679
10-13-2015, 09:45 PM
I'm confused about this whole VAT thing , I'm a model from the US are they taking the 20 percent from me too?

Horny
10-13-2015, 11:42 PM
Hey guys, first time poster here!

Can anyone help me with a bizarre issue regarding credits on AW?

Firstly, whenever i went to transfer credits, AW would tell me that transferring the full balance on my account was not possible, as i was requesting more credits than were in it - i wasn't. I looked this up on the site and it told me that this would be because i've purchased things using credits - i haven't.

I ran the automatic check AW offers in regards to this issue, and now, for some reason, all the credits i earned on one day last week aren't available to transfer anymore, despite me having not processed them! Two payments from clients from that evening are still marked as 'available for transfer', randomly. On my statement, my balance also suddenly goes down by about £130!
I requested a bank transfer that day, but about 6 hours before commencing any work. It's as if all the credits i earned later that day have vanished in to thin air, which is obviously pretty distressing, considering there's not a lot i can do on the actual site to get help. The credits i earned today, however, are marked as ready to be transferred at the appropriate time tomorrow.

Going a bit crazy over this, when i went to the transfer request form just a couple hours ago i had a huge chunk more money in my account. It has literally just vanished. Please, please help!

Any thoughts?


*Edit*
It seems, looking at the statement, that after i left a group chat with 2 people, my credits statement acknowledges both the payments from these two people and reads as follows:

Starts at 66.70
Goes up to 222.31 after one of these people in group chat paid 163.80 (facility fee -8.19)
Then, it goes back down to 90.37 after the other person in group chat paid 24.92 (facility fee -1.25)
So, the statement accepts both the clients payments, but then continues as though the transaction of 163.80 never happened.

The weirdest part, though, is that these two transactions are the only ones available for transfer for that day. All the preceding ones are just... not available for transfer.



Thanks in advance!
J

I may be way off the mark here but I made this mistake too. The balance isn't your balance it is gross before removing the admin fee. This is only deducted when you go to transfer the money and I believe that is 38% ish so that might explain the discrepancy? So if you are wanting to withdraw more than 62% of the balance it won't let you?

Sorry if i'm rambling but I was confused by this when I started I didn't realize that figure was only net of direct cam fees not AW fee's too.

jessajones
10-14-2015, 04:42 AM
I may be way off the mark here but I made this mistake too. The balance isn't your balance it is gross before removing the admin fee. This is only deducted when you go to transfer the money and I believe that is 38% ish so that might explain the discrepancy? So if you are wanting to withdraw more than 62% of the balance it won't let you?

Sorry if i'm rambling but I was confused by this when I started I didn't realize that figure was only net of direct cam fees not AW fee's too.


Hey! Thanks for the help! But, nope! The total amount of credits will not move from my statement to the transfer request. This is before the admin fees - which of course get deducted in the transfer request.

AW have been responding to me but it's a laborious process of having to jump through hoops each time and they keep just sending me random links to help pages that aren't relevant. They have fixed the incorrect balance in my credit statement which is great - BUT all of the credits i earned on the 9th still won't show up in the credit transfer request. Only the last 2 transactions of the day show up, leaving me with a shortfall of about 60 credits i earned that day! Really really tedious and concerned these credits have somehow vanished, even though they appear on my credit statement - i just can't transfer them.

Blonde-Ambition
10-14-2015, 05:35 AM
yeh I've just gone to cash out and all the only credits showing are from 1st oct to yesterday, the 13th oct?

any idea where they have all gone to!?
xx

Blonde-Ambition
10-14-2015, 05:53 AM
SUCCESS!! :D

Quote:



Input your UTR in on the new box ladies http://www.adultwork.com/VATDetails.asp

Katie, just a quick one, with the uploading the commercial activity document, what can be used? my tax statements are all from my previous address and have moved since then so don't have a recent one with new address on
what else could I use please?
Thank You hun
xx

justme23
10-14-2015, 06:56 AM
yeh I've just gone to cash out and all the only credits showing are from 1st oct to yesterday, the 13th oct?

any idea where they have all gone to!?
xx

That happened to me long time ago many times too, no worries, they will show up tomorrow, i guess. At the moment i don't see either the money i made on yesterday though.

Vlodina
10-14-2015, 06:57 AM
From Directcam the money won't show in your transfer list until 24 hours have passed from each transaction.

Vlodina
10-14-2015, 06:58 AM
Katie, just a quick one, with the uploading the commercial activity document, what can be used? my tax statements are all from my previous address and have moved since then so don't have a recent one with new address on
what else could I use please?
Thank You hun
xx

I had the same problem and I just logged into my HMRC admin panel and I took a screen shot of a page that had my name, new address and my UTR. They accepted it.

ROSIECAM
10-14-2015, 07:24 AM
Is anyone else having this problem i am up-dating and making sure the box is ticked for Availability for cam and when i go to look for myself in search i am no were to be found,but on my page its says i am available,but not in the search engine.

Blonde-Ambition
10-14-2015, 08:06 AM
I had the same problem and I just logged into my HMRC admin panel and I took a screen shot of a page that had my name, new address and my UTR. They accepted it.

aw perfect! thank you Vlodina
I will try that!
x

Blonde-Ambition
10-14-2015, 08:41 AM
just submitted form! how long does it take for them to approve it?
x

sexysusie
10-14-2015, 09:19 AM
Anything up to 24 hours.

@Rosiecam Sometimes it can take up to 20 mins to appear on the online now pages.

ROSIECAM
10-14-2015, 09:41 AM
@Rosiecam Sometimes it can take up to 20 mins to appear on the online now pages.

Thank you for your reply but its been all day not showing up,just thort some other girls might of had this problem

thank you sexysusie

sexysusie
10-14-2015, 09:47 AM
What's your profile or name? i can search for you if you like

ROSIECAM
10-14-2015, 10:04 AM
What's your profile or name? i can search for you if you like

All ready done that,i think i will reboot my computer Thank you for helping

Ps Its ok now

Princess_ki
10-14-2015, 11:12 AM
Hiya

I thanks for posting the link for AW form for the VAT and tax details.
Iv filled it all in and AW States it's usually done within 24hours.
Mine is still yellow and says it's been pending for 29hours?!?!? Has anyone else had this problem or taken this long??!?! Do you think I should re submit my details again or just wait?!?! And how do they let you know its been accepted do they email you or let u know when you log in ?
Thanks in advance xxxxxxxx

Blonde-Ambition
10-15-2015, 09:01 AM
mine is over 24 hours too!
did yours get verified yet princess_ki?

and yeh, how do you know when it's been accepted?
xx


Hiya

I thanks for posting the link for AW form for the VAT and tax details.
Iv filled it all in and AW States it's usually done within 24hours.
Mine is still yellow and says it's been pending for 29hours?!?!? Has anyone else had this problem or taken this long??!?! Do you think I should re submit my details again or just wait?!?! And how do they let you know its been accepted do they email you or let u know when you log in ?
Thanks in advance xxxxxxxx

Classy_Katy
10-15-2015, 09:17 AM
Mine was done quite quickly...they emailed me to say it had been accepted, and on the transfer page there is a notice about it.