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CatBBW
05-02-2016, 06:24 AM
Hummmm i think even 3.99 is too high. I see girls with lots and lots of reviews who charge under 2.99. The girls who get busier are the cheaper ones. I saw it yesterday, i set my fees higher and then very low to see how it would go. When i put grp at 2 and prvt 2.99 i didnt get anyone, but when i put grp 0.99 and pvt at 2, i had guys coming in group one after the other. I didnt get any big shows, mostly 5 mins each but i ended the night with 75 credits. So, im not sure high fees are bringing u clients, unless u get thos guys which i do have also, that dont care much abt fees and just enter the girls room they like.
But try it and see how it goes.

"Busy" doesn't necessarily mean "Profitable". I make MORE money now (at 1.99 and 2.99) doing LESS shows, than when I was charging 0.99 and 1.99 and doing MORE shows. I was just more tired. Now, sometimes when I am occupied with something else but still want to be available for shows, I drop out of Free and put my prices UP to 2.99 and 3.99 (sometimes more), which again usually makes no difference to my income as I get even less shows (which is great if I am busy with real life etc), but still snag the guys who are happy to pay that price to see me.

Reviews/feedback don't pay the bills. Mine creeps up maybe 1 or 2 a month, but the amount of shows I've actually done is waaaayyy more than that. Feedback is nice (when it's positive of course, lol) but I can't pay my rent with it.

Classy_Katy
05-02-2016, 07:10 AM
You've just got to find what works for you...most of my time online is during a slow period of the day and I'm usually not on for long, so having a really high price could mean I get nothing at all because I don't have enough time to wait for someone prepared to pay it. I did experiment with a very low group price once as I just wanted to be busy and I had my best month for ages...after a month though shows slowed and I put my prices back up again. I was getting sometimes 6 at a time in group and I would be in paid for about 20-30 minutes.

GeezLouise
05-02-2016, 07:27 AM
When I still did vanilla stuff I would charge 3.99 for group and on busy nights I would just put a show description in my Directcam thingy and profile and had no problem getting multiple people in my room staying to watch. Most I ever had watching me was 9 people at 3.99 a minute.

Sally Says
05-02-2016, 08:21 AM
its a personal choice, personally i know i am worth much more than 99p a minute

sexysusie
05-02-2016, 08:34 AM
Hummmm i think even 3.99 is too high. I see girls with lots and lots of reviews who charge under 2.99. The girls who get busier are the cheaper ones. I saw it yesterday, i set my fees higher and then very low to see how it would go. When i put grp at 2 and prvt 2.99 i didnt get anyone, but when i put grp 0.99 and pvt at 2, i had guys coming in group one after the other. I didnt get any big shows, mostly 5 mins each but i ended the night with 75 credits. So, im not sure high fees are bringing u clients, unless u get thos guys which i do have also, that dont care much abt fees and just enter the girls room they like.
But try it and see how it goes.

I average about 6x this amount...

Stop thinking so small. This whole forum is filled with testimonials to charging a good rate and not underselling yourself x

hotmodel
05-02-2016, 08:59 AM
Thanks ladies for all the info! That really helps in giving me ideas on where I should be and what the other girls are charging...I'm gonna try some different prices and see where I'm happiest..ill keep u ladies updated with how it's going :) thanks again!

SylvySinclair
05-02-2016, 09:04 AM
Like i said on another thread, since i dont get naked (my case) and my bills are waiting to get paid, i rather have guys entering my room than not. I am doing well except for last week which suck almost for everyone, so i will stick with them. Back in the day when i first started to cam, i wouldnt cam for less than 2.99 and that was long time ago, coz i was too proud to accept that that are way too many girls in this business and there is too much porn for free, so now, its not about my pride taking place and saying : oh cummon ur so beautiful bla bla, its about making the money to pay everything i need to pay and still have some fun with the same money. I dont have the patience to sit infront of the cam waiting for someone to come in. But thats me, not telling anyone to follow me.

sexysusie
05-02-2016, 09:14 AM
This is a great short roundup of common psychological pricing tactics https://www.helpscout.net/blog/pricing-strategies/

It is about setting your rates smartly rather than cheaply. Work out what will bring you the most and keep experimenting to get more and more x

CatieCurve
05-02-2016, 04:53 PM
I look - I tend to look at how many lines of girls showing in group or private to see how much traffic there is on site. The more rows showing orange or red the more traffic I reckon there must be. When I look at the girls who are in group or pvt there is no theme for costs - they range from 79p to 3.99 to more. I think it's about looking at the girls that are in group or pvt and deciding that the traffic is there so what do you need to get them to come into your room and for me price lowering doesn't really make any difference though your mileage may vary. Couple of weeks ago I put my prices up and had the longest pvt I'd had at 110 credits for one session - next day I reduced them and hardly had anyone. Don't think the prices always lead the way

CatieCurve
05-02-2016, 04:55 PM
Just to add though - that the more people reduce their rates the more it will become expected and the more you will need to reduce them to stay cost competitive if that is your strategy. If you put them at 1.49 per minute and others following same strategy reduce to 0.99 what you gonna do? reduce to 0.79? Then they will reduce to 0.49. Then 2.00 per minute will seem expensive as customers will expect the cheaper rates. I think it's a dangerous strategy but a girl's got to do what a girl's got to do so not one to criticise.

sexysusie
05-02-2016, 06:58 PM
It seems that most of the time those who charge low rates do so because they actually lack the confidence to charge more. They feel like perhaps their expertise or equipment isn't up to scratch, maybe they're not as pretty, as slim, or as 'glam' as others, or maybe they're non nude when most others are nude. There is a nagging voice inside that says "I'm not worth more, no one will pay me". Even though they can see for themselves that this doesn't apply to others, that some are making money at 3.99 and beyond, they still hold back in fear and a kind of familiar, comforting Denial.

Do you know what really helps with overcoming fear? Knowledge! Arm yourself with all the information you can about marketing, sales, and the psychology of these. Work out exactly who you target market is and aim yourself (the 'product') at THEM. If you did your homework and you've put in the effort to market yourself, you WILL get business, it's as simple as that.

You might only want to earn a little each day. £50 might seem a decent amount (compared to some jobs it IS a very very decent side income). But you can make MORE. Everybody can. It doesn't matter you only need £50, wouldn't you prefer £100? £300? What about £1000? You CAN make that. The only limit is your confidence and knowledge of the market.

This is a page about a marketing book but I thought it had some useful info that explains what I'm trying to say better than I ever could http://createhype.com/charge-what-youre-worth-how-to-balance-confidence-fear-and-competition-in-the-pricing-process/

Be confident ladies, educate yourself and reach for the stars!! :) x

hotmodel
05-02-2016, 06:59 PM
I look - I tend to look at how many lines of girls showing in group or private to see how much traffic there is on site. The more rows showing orange or red the more traffic I reckon there must be. When I look at the girls who are in group or pvt there is no theme for costs - they range from 79p to 3.99 to more. I think it's about looking at the girls that are in group or pvt and deciding that the traffic is there so what do you need to get them to come into your room and for me price lowering doesn't really make any difference though your mileage may vary. Couple of weeks ago I put my prices up and had the longest pvt I'd had at 110 credits for one session - next day I reduced them and hardly had anyone. Don't think the prices always lead the way

Yes! I had the exact same thing happen to me! For me..adultwork is very hit or miss and to be honest..it's not a big deal because it's not my main site..I want to charge the highest I can go and just leave it running in the background. I was 3.99 and 4.99 and 5.99 for yearssss on my main cam site..been doing this for along time lol! I got 10+ years into this but I wasn't cutting it at those prices..it was livable wages but wasn't living (if you know what I mean). So I upped my prices to 9.99 and it was slow at first and I was nervous I was gonna lose customers but it ended up going great and I've made more money then I ever have and I will not look back! Now I'm very happy with my job! But I just don't know with Adultwotk because it is a UK site and the monies are different compared to the United States etc..my main goal is to run multiple sites at the highest it can go..there are days when it's totally dead but there are days which are amazing! I'll sit and wait for the big spenders because in the end..I'm making way more and get way better clientele..u gotta just stick it out and do not go down..I'm just so unsure with adultwork cause it's in the UK but it sounds like the top price is 4.99 and maybe pushing it at 5.99..I think I'm gonna try 5.99 and stick with it..everyone's journey is different but this is what I'm choosing to do..I'm not downing girls that are less in price..hey, I've been there! And if that works for those girls then cool! But I know what has worked for me and what doesn't..so just trying to apply it to this unknown site for me :) hopefully I didn't ruffle any feathers ladies! I appreciate all the ladies chimming in on this! And Susie, thank you for that advice! I've been in glamour magazines so that helped me kinda figure out where I should be but thank u all so much!

SylvySinclair
05-02-2016, 07:00 PM
I got u when u write like that, coz i was the same years ago. But now im ot sure, things have changed a lot since i cammed for the first time. Im not sure if any of u girls had the chance to sell shows through pay2play groups we made on yahoo and were so fun to be at. Glory days, then the 2257 law took them all off and we lost a powerful weapon to sell shows. O well, im getting old i guess, lol, i miss those days.

Holly_xoxo
05-02-2016, 07:05 PM
It seems that most of the time those who charge low rates do so because they actually lack the confidence to charge more. They feel like perhaps their expertise or equipment isn't up to scratch, maybe they're not as pretty, as slim, or as 'glam' as others, or maybe they're non nude when most others are nude. There is a nagging voice inside that says "I'm not worth more, no one will pay me". Even though they can see for themselves that this doesn't apply to others, that some are making money at 3.99 and beyond, they still hold back in fear and a kind of familiar, comforting Denial.

Do you know what really helps with overcoming fear? Knowledge! Arm yourself with all the information you can about marketing, sales, and the psychology of these. Work out exactly who you target market is and aim yourself (the 'product') at THEM. If you did your homework and you've put in the effort to market yourself, you WILL get business, it's as simple as that.

You might only want to earn a little each day. £50 might seem a decent amount (compared to some jobs it IS a very very decent side income). But you can make MORE. Everybody can. It doesn't matter you only need £50, wouldn't you prefer £100? £300? What about £1000? You CAN make that. The only limit is your confidence and knowledge of the market.

This is a page about a marketing book but I thought it had some useful info that explains what I'm trying to say better than I ever could http://createhype.com/charge-what-youre-worth-how-to-balance-confidence-fear-and-competition-in-the-pricing-process/

Be confident ladies, educate yourself and reach for the stars!! :) x

I'm one of those that lack the confidence to charge more. I have problems with anxiety to begin with, so when I consider upping my fee, I start thinking "what if nobody buys a show" "how am I going to pay my bills" " I'll be in a worse situation than I am now".....the list goes on and on in my catastrophic mind. Definitely need to work on having the right mindset.

Thanks for posting that link :)

hotmodel
05-02-2016, 07:13 PM
Another thing though..even if I wasn't in the magazines..I would still up the rates..Susie's right..it's just about having that confidence! I see girls with no professional work behind them charging 9.99 and there killing it! But I would do it anyways without the mags! Cause I'm fab lol! We all are and u girls can do it too! Don't be afraid! The one thing I noticed is that I lost a lot of those 3.99, 4.99 and 5.99 regs but I gained the 9.99 ones! They will come slowly but surely..they will come! And start to add up! Mannnnn if I could do it all over it again..I would charge 9.99 as a brand new camgirl! Mannnn I think of all the money I lost over the years :( but hey, live and learn! It's easier to start high because u don't have the cheapo guys nagging at u because u went up in price and there gonna leave (trying to scare u to go back down). Don't give up or don't give in..just say byeeeee to the cheapos and don't look back! The 9.99 ones will come! And the 3.99,4.99,5.99 old regs will miss u and see your not going down and will eventually pay that 9.99 a min! I've seen it lol! I have a cam gf that was sitting at 5.99 still while I was at 9.99 and one of her clients came to me and paid 9.99! She was like fuck 5.99! She went to 9.99 and is now starting to gain. It really is about just having that inner confidence! Raise them rates ladies!

SylvySinclair
05-02-2016, 07:38 PM
well, these fees to me sound surreal, unless u are on SM where u get only 30%. On AW i didnt see girls charging that at all. Are we talking about AW really?

sexysusie
05-02-2016, 07:42 PM
I think she is talking about dollars, and her other sites. On SM it is very normal to see these rates and above as the payout is so low - 35% btw not 30. 9.99 pounds on AW would be very unusual, but why not try? Who knows. The sky is the limit :)

hotmodel
05-02-2016, 08:59 PM
Yea no I'm talking about Streamate, Ifriends and niteflirt I charge 9.99. I wasn't sure about adultwork and charging 9.99 so that was my question as in how high is too high. I want to find other private based sites that I could charge 9.99 and just split them all in the background. I'm looking at MGF and some others to add.

hotmodel
05-02-2016, 09:07 PM
It's interesting cause there was a cammodel on here about a year to 2 years ago that told me to try this and that it worked for her..I'm like no way?!?! But it works! Her name was hottie..really nice girl! Not sure where she went :( she doesn't log in anymore? I tried DMing her but her message box is full and she hasnt logged in forever :( I just got to my breaking point and dealing with these rude guys and not being able to really thrive on my monies made..I was really miserable and ready to leave this whole Camming world and just go get a normal job cause im like ok, im getting naked for how much a week? Yea, fuck this! So I was kinda in the mind set of where I was like its 9.99 or I go look for another job..I'm happy though it got to that point cause I'm very happy now :)

Classy_Katy
05-02-2016, 09:59 PM
If you're only online for 2-3 hours at a very slow time of day and when most girls in paid are charging peanuts, you don't have the luxury of time to wait for a guy who's prepared the much higher rates. You have to find what works best for you.

Melyssax
05-02-2016, 10:33 PM
Ok how in the world do you broadcast on this site?! I'm trying for the first time tonight.

Classy_Katy
05-02-2016, 11:36 PM
How far did you get? Go to my details - hover on the my details tab at the top so you get the drop down list - click on edit profile - profile details - webcam - edit directcam - fill out the info - click on justcamit settings

Melyssax
05-02-2016, 11:49 PM
How far did you get? Go to my details - hover on the my details tab at the top so you get the drop down list - click on edit profile - profile details - webcam - edit directcam - fill out the info - click on justcamit settings

Thnk you, I will try that.. This site just seems unorganized & all over the place to me as far as the layout, at least until I get used to it.

Classy_Katy
05-02-2016, 11:55 PM
It's because it started out as a directory for escorts and camming is just one of the services on offer.

DancesWithSloths
05-03-2016, 02:45 AM
If you're only online for 2-3 hours at a very slow time of day and when most girls in paid are charging peanuts, you don't have the luxury of time to wait for a guy who's prepared the much higher rates. You have to find what works best for you.

Completely agree.

I actually vary my rates according to the time of day on AW. When I've got class, or family commitments, or whatever, and can only be on 11am-2pm, down go the rates, to 1.50/2.50. On the stroke of 5pm, back up to 2/3.

The only times I don't do that, is like in the last few weeks, when I have to concentrate on coursework deadlines. I'll be welded to my desk working for the next 10 hours anyway, so I've got time to wait for weekday spenders, plus, as CatBBW says above, I'd rather get paid higher for interruptions.

PixiieGirl
05-03-2016, 03:06 AM
Thnk you, I will try that.. This site just seems unorganized & all over the place to me as far as the layout, at least until I get used to it.
yeah its really hard to navigate at first but you get used to it I think
good luck :)

sexysusie
05-03-2016, 05:23 AM
It's interesting cause there was a cammodel on here about a year to 2 years ago that told me to try this and that it worked for her..I'm like no way?!?! But it works! Her name was hottie..really nice girl! Not sure where she went :( she doesn't log in anymore? I tried DMing her but her message box is full and she hasnt logged in forever :( I just got to my breaking point and dealing with these rude guys and not being able to really thrive on my monies made..I was really miserable and ready to leave this whole Camming world and just go get a normal job cause im like ok, im getting naked for how much a week? Yea, fuck this! So I was kinda in the mind set of where I was like its 9.99 or I go look for another job..I'm happy though it got to that point cause I'm very happy now :)

Yup Hottie was awesome and one of my inspirations here along with Sarahtime. High earning, positive thinking, forward acting individuals :) People make or limit their own success!

SylvySinclair
05-03-2016, 08:27 AM
So Susi, i tried what told me and it worked, i raised my fees but i added myself to the first page of directcam and indeed i got more shows when i was at a lower fee but also away from the first page. I lost few shows due to not providing audio during the day, but ok, got other who didnt care. Yet, my highest fee is 2.99 and the lower is 1.99 for group.

sexysusie
05-03-2016, 09:46 AM
That's great sylvy! If you read the link I posted on pricing psychology you'll see the bit about too many similar options causing buyer inertia. There are so many models at 1.99/2.99 it can help to differentiate yourself by going higher or changing up the numbers a bit so 1.89/3.25 or 2.25/2.89 for eg x

SylvySinclair
05-03-2016, 10:09 AM
That's great sylvy! If you read the link I posted on pricing psychology you'll see the bit about too many similar options causing buyer inertia. There are so many models at 1.99/2.99 it can help to differentiate yourself by going higher or changing up the numbers a bit so 1.89/3.25 or 2.25/2.89 for eg x

Ok i will try that tonight, i read the link u gave me, thats why i tried it. I deffinetely made more today than in the last 2 months being online 12hs. In 3 hs i made $167, which i struggled to make in one day. But also i deffinetely understood that to make that, i had to be on the first page of directcam, which i did by bidding. Its unlikely that guys will go pass the first or second page, mainfully the first one, so being on top of the first page, deffinetely made a huge difference. Forget about the featuring thing, which are the slots u pay to be afeatured for booked shows. Its the bidding that makes the difference.

sexysusie
05-03-2016, 11:17 AM
It's getting more and more expensive to position now. I alternate between one jour positioned, one in free chat. But in all honesty the best way to get more traffic is to advertise OFF site. Bring your own customers in x

SylvySinclair
05-03-2016, 01:18 PM
Yes, its very expensive, i spent like 12 credits already. augh...

Sally Says
05-03-2016, 01:45 PM
dropping.50 used to work now anything under £1 makes me third page!

SylvySinclair
05-03-2016, 02:30 PM
i believe you, its shitty expensive.

CatieCurve
05-03-2016, 05:34 PM
im so pissed. AW was busy as f today and everytime someone went into pvt or group with me they lasted about 20 seconds to a minute because they said my cam was freezing up. My internet was fine with everything else. lots of 20 second and one minute half convos. 4 hours for 25 quid so had to give up. Tearing my hair out.

Classy_Katy
05-03-2016, 09:51 PM
dropping.50 used to work now anything under £1 makes me third page!

3rd page? All positioning should have you on the 1st page...when it's red, it's simply behind the others who have paid.

SylvySinclair
05-04-2016, 04:24 AM
3rd page? All positioning should have you on the 1st page...when it's red, it's simply behind the others who have paid.

I thought that it was like that too, i mean if u paid, and u show in red, i supposed u were going to show at the bottom of the first page. Aint that right?

Classy_Katy
05-04-2016, 05:12 AM
May not be at the bottom...just after the girls who paid more. There would have to be an awful lot of girls paying for positioning to be on the 3rd page. Even when I've paid the minimum I've still always been on the first page.

CatieCurve
05-04-2016, 05:31 AM
i paid and I wasnt :(

Classy_Katy
05-04-2016, 06:13 AM
How much did you pay Catie? It was for positioning and not daily featuring, wasn't it?

SylvySinclair
05-04-2016, 07:36 AM
i paid 2.5 to show on first page

seicento
05-04-2016, 08:08 AM
I don't know about the third but I was on second page when paying 1 credit at night when there were about 600 models online. I now pay 2.5 and keeps me on the first page.
Also, I notice sometimes the site is glitchy and I show up on the wrong page for a while or I don't show on the site at all.

seicento
05-04-2016, 08:17 AM
Can anyone tell me please how are customers charged for special offers ? Are they charged in full once they start? Are they only allowed to restart the session once ?

I had this customer using a special offer the other night and he was disconnected twice. First he was able to come back after 2 mins used of that special offer but when disconnected again he had to buy a new one. He was charged in full for the offer but he only used about 3-4 mins and I think they didn't let him come back using the same offer. He didn't mention it but I noticed right after that I was paid for two offers.

I never had an offer ending before the time was up since I started doing them but I always thought they would be allowed to restart it if anything.
Tya.

SylvySinclair
05-04-2016, 12:23 PM
anyone having a lot of guys popping in and out in group or prvt? some girls having this problem, including me, must be a glitch on aw server?

Holly_xoxo
05-04-2016, 01:23 PM
I have a lot of guys that do that. I think they're just 10 second peepers most of the time

SylvySinclair
05-04-2016, 02:23 PM
I have a lot of guys that do that. I think they're just 10 second peepers most of the time

not even a hello???? so its not a glitch? lol omg, now im sad.

SylvySinclair
05-04-2016, 02:50 PM
man, im so pissed!!!! I spent 40 credits in bidding!!!! wtf!!! i know i know, its my fault, but u think ...ok, i need to spend some to make some, but only 1min peepers coming to my room today, wtf!!!

sexysusie
05-04-2016, 03:28 PM
I would not spenx that much. If theres lots of girls in group (6 rows) free chat and lots of tweeting out your link is a better option. When there are less girls on its a great time to position as youve more chance of being seen and for less money. In a 5-6 hour shift I will spend about £10 on positioning x

Holly_xoxo
05-04-2016, 03:36 PM
not even a hello???? so its not a glitch? lol omg, now im sad.

Yeh that does happen to me quite a bit. They come in and about 10 seconds later (or less) pop out. All I get the chance to say is hello...Lol
Sometimes when it happens, no credits will show as being spent so I know those ones are glitches. The others I make a whooping .45 from

SylvySinclair
05-04-2016, 03:39 PM
I would not spenx that much. If theres lots of girls in group (6 rows) free chat and lots of tweeting out your link is a better option. When there are less girls on its a great time to position as youve more chance of being seen and for less money. In a 5-6 hour shift I will spend about £10 on positioning x

thnx for the advice hon,i feel ripped. I saw that the best hrs are from 6pm to 7pm right? I couldnt even get a green with 4 pounds. So i didnt. Since Im in brasil, im 4hs earlier than UK, so, what are the hrs that there are less girls and i should bid? And should i sped 10 in different hrs? show on first page only few times, special times of the day? thnx for the help