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beauvoir
09-26-2016, 01:03 AM
I was tempted by payoneer but I'm leery about the fact they offer no direct deposits to the UK.
Could pull the money out as cash and manually deposit into your bank account?

Classy_Katy
09-26-2016, 01:34 AM
I was tempted by payoneer but I'm leery about the fact they offer no direct deposits to the UK.

When I used Payoneer, they paid directly into my bank account.

https://www.payoneer.com/products/local-bank-withdrawal/

Anna_X
09-26-2016, 01:41 AM
They aren't doing direct deposits now, only deposits to the US.

Just sitting weighing up the pros and cons of either before I complete a registration.

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 01:52 AM
They are. Susie has hers direct deposit. They have a live chat feature. I appear to have a card and a bank account associated to mine so will have to speak to them to find out what's what as I don't have a physical card and would like to associate the aw account with the bank account if I can

Anna_X
09-26-2016, 02:04 AM
This is what i'm getting at the registration page. The country dropdown only states United States or Other, click other and this happens.

46056

GeezLouise
09-26-2016, 02:14 AM
I'm so happy I'm with clubdailypay right now. I would be shitting myself if I couldn't withdraw money I earned.

Is it AW or their Payment service that is in trouble though?

GeezLouise
09-26-2016, 02:17 AM
Wait, does the same company also take care of guys buying] credits? I sure hope they are not effected by it. It was just getting busy again.

sexysusie
09-26-2016, 02:20 AM
It is the parent company of chexx, AW's payment processor. No one will be getting paid into a bank account from AW soon, including groups, unless they can source a new processor willing to take them on (judging by the difficulty other smaller camsites have had this may not be an easy or quick process). So all models need a backup x

MistressLucyXX
09-26-2016, 02:33 AM
I've already asked on the Niteflirt thread and Twitter, but figured I'd ask here as well as I haven't had anybody reply yet. Has anyone in the UK received their Niteflirt cheque for this month yet? I generally get it between the 12th and the 18th or so, but no sign of it yet. I think I got it late once around the 27th, but that was ages ago. I just don't want to start the process of having it replaced if everyone else in the UK hasn't received theirs yet either.

I got mine last Wednesday. I'd just give it another couple of days, then chase it.

MistressLucyXX
09-26-2016, 02:35 AM
This is what i'm getting at the registration page. The country dropdown only states United States or Other, click other and this happens.

46056

Ah that's exactly what I'm getting right now, only the card option is available in the UK. I popped over to Paxum to have a look at that setup instead.

GeezLouise
09-26-2016, 02:41 AM
Payments already requested will still continue it says. Also there are other payment methods available, so that also counts for groups.
I'm just glad I'm in a group and don't have to worry about this sort of shit.

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 02:55 AM
Ana and Mistress Lucy try messaging them on their live chat and asking. I don't think aw are set up with their global payment service but if you get a card then I think you can add direct deposit. I may be wrong but it's worth asking them. Their live chat is online from 11am UK time x

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 02:58 AM
It is the parent company of chexx, AW's payment processor. No one will be getting paid into a bank account from AW soon, including groups, unless they can source a new processor willing to take them on (judging by the difficulty other smaller camsites have had this may not be an easy or quick process). So all models need a backup x

Not all groups are still getting paid to their bank. I expect the daily pay groups are purely because of their set up. Ie. They have to have a bank account purely to pay girls from before they receive their payments from AW. So it makes no difference how they themselves receive their money, they will probably just transfer from their payoneer card that they already hold

Vlodina
09-26-2016, 03:00 AM
I have Payoneer, and wherever possible I have it set up for Global Bank Transfer, as there's nothing more annoying than having to withdraw money from an ATM then pay it into my bank. Who has time for that?! As far as I'm aware, AW can only pay onto the card, that's what I do on those weeks that I haven't made enough for bank transfer.
Has anyone received today's bank transfer by the way? It would normally be in...

MistressLucyXX
09-26-2016, 03:01 AM
Ana and Mistress Lucy try messaging them on their live chat and asking. I don't think aw are set up with their global payment service but if you get a card then I think you can add direct deposit. I may be wrong but it's worth asking them. Their live chat is online from 11am UK time x

Ahhh i thought i'd read somewhere AW aren't set up for Global Payments. Thanks Lola, I think i'll just give them a little call later.

MistressLucyXX
09-26-2016, 03:05 AM
No, i cant be withdrawing at the cash point then going into the bank to put it in either, what a faff.

Just checked my bank and no payment either. Seen a few others not been paid yet also, hope its just a slight delay.

GeezLouise
09-26-2016, 03:08 AM
How are the DP groups getting around this problem? Do they collect money via Paxum etc anyway/as standard? And then send money direct to your bank?

Because surely if they rely on DD/bank transfer, they will be hit just as hard as non-DP group members?

I'm on Clubdailypay and they withdraw through Payoneer. So looks like they are not effected by this.
I expect other groups to also withdraw to Payoneer or Paxum

MistressLucyXX
09-26-2016, 03:16 AM
I see, thanks GeezLouise. I did ask how DP would navigate the problem on the AW forum, but they haven't answered as yet.

EDIT: Sorry i just thought DP & ClubDailyPay were the same! I'll still await the answer from Colin

(Thanks GeezLouise for the correction! X)

GeezLouise
09-26-2016, 03:55 AM
I thought payments were made on Tuesday (the wire ones by Adultwork)?
I can't really remember because I'm in a group, but think I never got my payments until Tuesday.

Classy_Katy
09-26-2016, 04:01 AM
I thought payments were made on Tuesday (the wire ones by Adultwork)?
I can't really remember because I'm in a group, but think I never got my payments until Tuesday.

Our payments come in on Mondays.

CatBBW
09-26-2016, 04:08 AM
Wait, does the same company also take care of guys buying credits? I sure hope they are not effected by it. It was just getting busy again.

Oh crap, that's something I didn't think of.

CatBBW
09-26-2016, 04:10 AM
Payments already requested will still continue it says.

But that doesn't include the ones that would be processed on 11th October. Those will need to be re-requested to a different processor.

Anna_X
09-26-2016, 04:13 AM
I thought payments were made on Tuesday (the wire ones by Adultwork)?
I can't really remember because I'm in a group, but think I never got my payments until Tuesday.

The weekly pay period cut off is Tuesday before Midnight, for whatever reason (I've not been complaining) I've been receiving payments on Mondays by selecting uk wire transfer.

MistressLucyXX
09-26-2016, 04:14 AM
For some reason It always shows up as 'processing' on the Tuesday but it mostly comes in the day before, Monday.

MistressLucyXX
09-26-2016, 04:21 AM
DP came back to me after i asked for some security that they'll still be ok to receive bank transfers from AW.

They mostly told me how they haven't changed there rates in 10 years and how good they are.....so no actually relevant info on why they wont be stuffed either.

EDIT: Reply from DP '"This issue with AWs processor has thinned our numbers down to nearly nothing", the numbers are thinning as we use another payout provider yes."

Blue-Velvet
09-26-2016, 04:36 AM
I already have a Paxum account (I've never used), but decided to sign up for a Payoneer account just to be safe. I did it directly through the website. When I went back to AW and followed the instructions as to how to link my AW account to the Payoneer account, I got a message from Payoneer saying the account was unable to be linked to Adultwork, that I would need to sign up for a new account with a different email address. I give up. Adultwork says Payoneer is only payable onto a prepaid card, whereas the Payoneer site (and people on the forum) say they can pay directly into your UK bank account. There's such conflicting advice on the issue, I think I'll just stick with Paxum and cross my fingers that the the various fees don't kill me. I can cope with a $7 transfer fee, but if there's issues with having to convert it from £GBP to $USD and back to £GBP, that's seriously going to suck.

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 04:40 AM
Payoneer charge $3 per card load or bank transfer so £1.89. That's whether you have £50 or £500. £50 with daily pay would cost you £3.

If you use their 'withdraw to bank' service you pay the $2 (or $5 for instant loading) then this:

"each withdrawal made in your local currency will have a currency exchange rate of 2% above mid-market rate at transfer time.
For example, if the amount you wish to transfer is converted to 100 units in your local currency, the withdrawal fee will be up to 2 units in your local currency.

Please note: Payoneer has no control over additional fees that may be charged by your local bank" (Taken from their site)

Also there is a monthly fee on the card too. I am just waiting for an email back from them. My account looks so confusing. I seem to have 2 cards and 1 bank account!

MistressLucyXX
09-26-2016, 04:40 AM
Adultwork says Payoneer is only payable onto a prepaid card, whereas the Payoneer site (and people on the forum) say they can pay directly into your UK bank account. There's such conflicting advice on the issue

That's exactly what I've found too, the Payoneer seems a little confusing, the Paxum looks more straight forward.

MistressLucyXX
09-26-2016, 04:49 AM
Not sure if anyones been on AWF or AW and saw the update regarding cancelling payments...

•Monday 26 11:45 - The facility to cancel transfer requests will be implemented on Tuesday 27th September. Please don't request this through the Help Centre.

GeezLouise
09-26-2016, 04:52 AM
Ah. For all UK girls, please keep the thread updated on the status of your payments then.
I'm sure lots of girls are worried and seeing that other girls got paid will probably take some worries away.

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 06:17 AM
Payoneer has now been affected:


Major news outlets have recently reported that the Canadian payments processor PacNet Services Ltd. is currently under investigation by law enforcement for involvement in mail fraud schemes.

For a minimal portion of our payment routes, Payoneer relied on PacNet as third payment party payment provider. Upon learning of the allegations against them, Payoneer immediately ceased all business operations with PacNet.

This development surprised Payoneer as it did the entire payment industry. We are currently in the process of finding alternative methods and routes for those previously served by PacNet. As such, some of the payments you have recently issued may be delayed.

Your patience and understanding in this matter are greatly appreciated.

Feel free to contact us with any question you may have.

Seems Paxum is the only way to go.....until they announce the same. Not looking good for us

beauvoir
09-26-2016, 06:31 AM
Where is that info from about Payoneer?

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 06:36 AM
Where is that info from about Payoneer?

Adultworkforum colin posted an email he received from Payoneer themselves

sexysusie
09-26-2016, 06:37 AM
Holy crap! Better get signed up for paxum then. Thanks Lola for the heads up.

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 06:39 AM
46057

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 06:40 AM
Holy crap! Better get signed up for paxum then. Thanks Lola for the heads up.

Until that goes too :-( I wasn't mega worried before, it was just a ballache but now Im panicking a bit

sexysusie
09-26-2016, 06:44 AM
Just read paxum cannot exceed $10,000 per month?
Are they also associated with pacnet as well?

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 06:47 AM
That's going to be an issue then I guess. That's only £7700! They havent confirmed anything yet but are looking into whether or not it affects them

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/us-authorities-name-irish-figures-in-pacnet-fraud-investigation-1.2803663

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 06:49 AM
Im surprised nothing has filtered from AW as ppl will be relying on Payoneer to cash out tomorrow ( like me) and now wont get a Paxum verified on time so will miss a pay period (assuming they arent actually affected)

CatBBW
09-26-2016, 06:51 AM
Oh no. I hope to gods that Paxum don't use Pacnet. We are all going to be screwed.

Arwen25
09-26-2016, 06:51 AM
Shiiit.

Thank you for the update on this, Lolalu.

Am trying not to make a panic-induced decision. But at this point, it's looking like all payment methods are going to be hit. :( xx

GeezLouise
09-26-2016, 06:51 AM
Right.
So Payoneer is now affected, so that leaves Paxum, which can only handle $10k a year.

So basically Adultwork has no ways to pay their models.

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 06:55 AM
They havent confirmed that yet

CatBBW
09-26-2016, 06:56 AM
Right.
So Payoneer is now affected, so that leaves Paxum, which can only handle $10k a year.

So basically Adultwork has no ways to pay their models.

So...what do we do? Down tools until they have something in place?

AW is my main source of income, I am going to be so fucked if they can't pay me.

LolaLu
09-26-2016, 06:58 AM
Same here babe. I have a few girls on there too and it's the same for them. Im trying not to panic until AW release something. I still havent received my money inot the bank either. So starting to worry I have to admit

GeezLouise
09-26-2016, 07:00 AM
There is an update for EU bank transfers if it applies to anyone here:

As the volume of these is lower than UK bank payments, we are investigating if our existing banking relationships can be used to effect payments of this number and value, and what extra information regarding the beneficiary is required in order to comply with anti-money laundering regulations.

Monday 26 14:40 - If you have requested a European transfer (Scheduled payment date of 27th September), please respond asap to email sent from [email protected] to your (or your Group Manager's) registered email address. We require further information in order to pay your transfer.

GeezLouise
09-26-2016, 07:02 AM
I remember my AW payments would always say "aws" or something along those lines.
A few people on an other forum say it now says "pacnet etc".

Would be great if they could go back to their first way of payments.

If even group managers can't cash out, then I think we will be all fucked.

CatBBW
09-26-2016, 07:03 AM
There is an update for EU bank transfers if it applies to anyone here:

As the volume of these is lower than UK bank payments, we are investigating if our existing banking relationships can be used to effect payments of this number and value, and what extra information regarding the beneficiary is required in order to comply with anti-money laundering regulations.

Monday 26 14:40 - If you have requested a European transfer (Scheduled payment date of 27th September), please respond asap to email sent from [email protected] to your (or your Group Manager's) registered email address. We require further information in order to pay your transfer.

Interesting. I used to do EU transfers before they opened a UK bank option. I wonder if that will be open to us again?

sexysusie
09-26-2016, 07:06 AM
Omg this means my global bank transfers from mfc will be affected too presumably. I HATE the payoneer card so much and its incredibly scary only having one possible payment option.

It's a long shot but I have connections to some people working in payment processing. I'll update this thread if I find out anything.

GeezLouise
09-26-2016, 07:07 AM
Please do Susy: I only have AW covered for my payments by being in a group but also have MFC and other eggs that pay me on Payoneer. :(