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GeezLouise
10-02-2016, 03:00 AM
They will solve it. All you can do is trust that they will fix it.
For now, use Payoneer and you can still get your money and cash out.
I eat lots of fresh fruit and veg so I go to the shops everyday to pick up fresh food, rather than doing weekly shopping. It's also the perfect way to get chunks of cash back everytime I go. Especially because that means there is no ATM fee.
MistressLucyXX
10-02-2016, 03:20 AM
Hmmm just seen a post on AWF saying C4S are no longer paying out to UK banks now too.
justme23
10-02-2016, 03:23 AM
Just got this message, seems to be a general problem with Uk payments and not only AW. Seems that Paxum and Payoneer payments are the only accepted.
The following is an email sent to you by an administrator of "DailyPay".
Hi all, if you havent seen a post about it, AW
forums are the only forum to have info on it at the moment)
C4S (clips4sale.com) will no longer payout to UK bank accounts, for all C4S
members using us, DP, we dont see any changes currently to our service, you
will still be paid as normal, nearly all sites are now in a state of
crisis, AW, MFC, Streamate, C4S, Chaturbate etc from the top of my head I
cant name one site that hasnt dropped the UK from their pay roll systems
(due to forces outside their control).
We are the only ones paying out beyond the start date of the crisis (so if
possible, no negative comments towards us/our staff taking slightly longer
to pay out please, we are trying our best here when all other sites and
services have stopped payouts and "deserted" you, we understand all payouts
are urgent, this is a once in a lifetime crisis on an apocalyptic scale).
Our staff members are working 24/7 during this time.
To try and help our funding ability the staff members have given up their
own wages since the start of the crisis and put the money towards funding
the service so you may be paid, we got alot of supportive messages but we
also unfortunately get alot of negative comments which to be honest are
heart breaking to read.
Just before the crisis we had sent an email out about our new Customer
Service Centre being built in Belfast (UK), this is still ongoing so there
is no office landline number during this time.
Our head of Customer Service, Annabelle has offered her own personal mobile
number to be given out during this time (will be released in a follow up
message later today).
As far as I know from this moment, C4S dont plan on doing UK payouts for
the foreseeable future.
For today, all auto daily payouts, weeklys and payout on requests are being
processed as normal.
There is no need to panic at this time, everyone is working hard to resolve
the problems, currently the fix = time only.
AW and DP will continue to operate well into the future.
Thanks all.
Best Regards from all here at, The Dailypay Service.
--
Thanks, DailyPay
LolaLu
10-02-2016, 03:33 AM
I can't believe there was only the one payment processor willing to work with payments in the adult industry. In todays age!
GeezLouise
10-02-2016, 03:34 AM
Payoneer still pays, but you must use the debit card. They no longer send it from Payoneer to UK banks.
MistressLucyXX
10-02-2016, 03:35 AM
I thought Colin & DP were assuring people they could cope with paying everyone etc etc and to join them....but now they're saying some staff members have gone without pay to help fund payouts?
The two don't tally.
Blonde-Ambition
10-02-2016, 03:44 AM
On the AW forum, there is something about NEW payoneer prepaid cards tho?
xx
sexysusie
10-02-2016, 04:01 AM
Payoneer still pays, but you must use the debit card. They no longer send it from Payoneer to UK banks.
Exactly. As far as I am aware we can still get paid onto the payoneer card for all sites? Pain in the bum like, but it IS an option. I don't know why DP is saying that, unless he knows something we don't?
MistressLucyXX
10-02-2016, 04:08 AM
I think the email he posted ups been a bit confused, i think its just saying the Uk transfers were no longer working, but the cards still ok. That's the way i read it anyway.
Vlodina
10-02-2016, 04:16 AM
Not for AW of course, but I received a Payoneer global bank transfer on Thursday.
sexysusie
10-02-2016, 04:17 AM
Awesome news Vlodina. What site?
Caseycurvaceous
10-02-2016, 04:20 AM
From what it sounds girls, get the payoneer card.
look into a alternative site too , start to build there is something happening on the wide web that we workers are unaware of .
colins mail and the words from other girls don't add up
colin insists that he has the cash to pay everyone , but then workers are without wages during this crisis.For me that is alarm bells because if he can't pay the workers how are they surviving because sooner or later they will leave... and then he will have no one to help run DP , therefore it turns to dust
this all just what im thinking, so think ahead ladies is all im saying.
Payoneer is accepted by so many sites as far as im aware. Like i said boleyn models does dailypay to payoneer with minimal fees, ran by one of the ladies off of the forum here on stripper web and i have never had any issues , compared to when i was on DP.
Im from the uk , now based in denmark and im wondering if they will payout into eu bank accounts then if its only the uk ones affected.
Indie pay is a great sex worker friendly processor but i have no idea why they haven't looked at that but hey what ever!
Im in denmark as i mentioned and the laws here regarding sex in general is insane. All our cam sites etc we can show EVERYTHING including scat/pee etc etc ... only thing we cant do is animal and children for obvs reasons. Im on a danish site at the moment and im glad i started with them back in january as that will be my main backup until this blows.
hugs girls times are gonna be tough xo
Caseycurvaceous
10-02-2016, 04:26 AM
Yeah , hopefully he will do another to clear it all up. But i think with cutiebootie mentioning the above and then this mail it doesn't look good!
sigh. why can't we all be treated like normal working people i mean for gods sake its just sex!!!
half the shit we do isn't even sexual based!!! xo
sexysusie
10-02-2016, 04:35 AM
Adult work is classed the same as other high risk business because traditionally they are more highly correlated with money laundering, fraud, and high risk of chargebacks. It's not to do with the adult content per se, simply the risk factor. This is why it is so hard to secure reliable and affordable payment processing. The mega sites can afford it and usually have backups they can go to, but the smaller sites can't operate on that level.
Re daily pay afaik they aren't going anywhere and they have reserves to pay everyone. I'm in the group and have no plans to leave. I do have payoneer AND paxum as a back up though. It really is a pain to use the payoneer card, but honestly I'm glad we have options. Despite what people are saying to sit back and wait for AW, I would advise all of you apply for payoneer and paxum NOW. Both will take at least a couple of weeks to set up. Even if you end up not needing them they are useful to have for other sites and may be useful for AW in future x
Vlodina
10-02-2016, 04:41 AM
Awesome news Vlodina. What site?
I had to double check. Last global transfer was Model Centro on the 27th.
PixiieGirl
10-02-2016, 04:50 AM
Hmmm just seen a post on AWF saying C4S are no longer paying out to UK banks now too.
at all? bank transfer and cheque?
guess I can put off opening a store there aha
Blue-Velvet
10-02-2016, 04:58 AM
Adult work is classed the same as other high risk business because traditionally they are more highly correlated with money laundering, fraud, and high risk of chargebacks. It's not to do with the adult content per se, simply the risk factor. This is why it is so hard to secure reliable and affordable payment processing. The mega sites can afford it and usually have backups they can go to, but the smaller sites can't operate on that level.
Re daily pay afaik they aren't going anywhere and they have reserves to pay everyone. I'm in the group and have no plans to leave. I do have payoneer AND paxum as a back up though. It really is a pain to use the payoneer card, but honestly I'm glad we have options. Despite what people are saying to sit back and wait for AW, I would advise all of you apply for payoneer and paxum NOW. Both will take at least a couple of weeks to set up. Even if you end up not needing them they are useful to have for other sites and may be useful for AW in future x
ABSOLUTELY THISSSS. Adultwork as a site is going nowhere. Unless there were some magical means of banning adult phone and cam sites overnight, Adultwork is staying put. The problem isn't with Adultwork per se, but finding a means of paying people into UK banks. From what I understand, in the beginning, Payoneer card was the ONLY way you could get paid working on AW. When I started, they couldn't do UK bank transfers and I had to have an international bank account number (IBAN) to get paid via EU bank account. Yes, this has all been a huge stress and pain in the arse, but AW is not going to vanish overnight.
Given the high percentage of UK-based service providers on their website (as opposed to MFC or SM who *I think* have a higher percentage of American workers) I would venture to guess that if ANYONE can sort a UK payment processor, they will be the first to do it. Other websites who have a lower percentage of UK workers won't be working round the clock breaking their backs to sort this.
Dailypay - who knows what's going on there, or why he says his workers have gone without pay. I'm not with DP, but that's not because I have a trust issue. I'm already in group KDB, and since I have savings, etc. I can live off in the short-term, I haven't added to DP's workload by jumping on that ship. I have no doubt that DP is legit and working very hard to help a lot of people out. Not sure if he appreciated the panic he would create by suggesting his workers haven't been paid.
Again, as has been suggested over and over here, GET A PAYONEER CARD and a Paxum account. Get the ball rolling. I finally got approved for a Payoneer card this morning, so if AW haven't sorted bank transfers by the time my card arrives, I'll throw everything onto the Payoneer card and do it that way. Massive pain in the arse, and I don't like losing more than I already do in fees and expenses, but sometimes shit happens as they say.
MistressLucyXX
10-02-2016, 05:03 AM
at all? bank transfer and cheque?
guess I can put off opening a store there aha
Yep, both are affected.
PixiieGirl
10-02-2016, 05:05 AM
Yep, both are affected.
welp there go my plans for setting that up then ¬.¬
sexysusie
10-02-2016, 05:20 AM
You can get daily pay for c4s and their payout is unaffected. It really is up to you though if you want to join a group as obviously you will pay a higher % out of your earnings. Join c4s first then add your account to DP here http://www.dailypayservice.com/main/index.php/mem-forms/ff_form/18/ff_page/1?ff_form=18&ff_page=1
PixiieGirl
10-02-2016, 05:25 AM
You can get daily pay for c4s and their payout is unaffected. It really is up to you though if you want to join a group as obviously you will pay a higher % out of your earnings. Join c4s first then add your account to DP here http://www.dailypayservice.com/main/index.php/mem-forms/ff_form/18/ff_page/1?ff_form=18&ff_page=1
ohhh I didn't know there was DP for C4S! I'd totally do that I think seen as the pay out options to the UK are so rubbish anyway, and I'm with DP on AW to (as this isn't my only source of income I can afford to pay the % for the convenience, which I know is a luxury not everyone has) - thanks susie :)
beauvoir
10-02-2016, 05:34 AM
Not for AW of course, but I received a Payoneer global bank transfer on Thursday.
May I ask how? Every time I try to sync my bank with Payoneer they said it's not possible.
Caseycurvaceous
10-02-2016, 05:40 AM
ohhh I didn't know there was DP for C4S! I'd totally do that I think seen as the pay out options to the UK are so rubbish anyway, and I'm with DP on AW to (as this isn't my only source of income I can afford to pay the % for the convenience, which I know is a luxury not everyone has) - thanks susie :)
yeah boleyn models do dp for c4s and a few other sites too. from what i found there rates are the better of the two ... compared to dp.But thats just me... maybe xo
PixiieGirl
10-02-2016, 05:41 AM
You can get daily pay for c4s and their payout is unaffected. It really is up to you though if you want to join a group as obviously you will pay a higher % out of your earnings. Join c4s first then add your account to DP here http://www.dailypayservice.com/main/index.php/mem-forms/ff_form/18/ff_page/1?ff_form=18&ff_page=1
I feel like I'm probably missing something really obvious but I can't find what % they take on C4S, do you know?
Teddy_Bear
10-02-2016, 05:43 AM
I guess this thread and the other one about this subject is the answer to that question everyone always asks 'what would it take to bring the giant cam sites down?' since the DDOS attacks didn't manage it they are now being hit where it really hurts, in their pocket. It would appear that ladies are still logging on but if they don't sort it pronto they know those same ladies will happily desert them and chase the money on a different site. It is in their best interests to sort this ASAP rather than it always being us who gets the shitty end of the stick while they are sitting pretty taking their sweet time. Makes a nice change.
As for DP surely the groups can be paid out the same way we have been forced to, through the Payoneer card? There is no reason why funds should dry up for them. I'm with BM for almost all of my sites and have heard no issues with them bankrolling their group, DP should be the same. I'm with DP for C4S (as BM does not offer it's service for this site) but rarely update so this issue hitting them doesn't really affect me, however what about all the UK people who rely solely on clip-making for their income? They can't ALL join DP that is insane!
It would appear that all the adult sites were relying on this one fraudulent company and now it has all gone arse upwards for them, all at once. Chaos.
Vlodina
10-02-2016, 05:46 AM
May I ask how? Every time I try to sync my bank with Payoneer they said it's not possible.
With Adultwork you can only use the card (I don't just mean just now with the crisis). But I use Global Bank Transfer for Streamate, Manyvids and ModelCentro. When they first started doing GBT I had to send many emails back and forth with Payoneer to change my payments from card to GBT which was a pain at the time but then it's been no bother since.
Teddy_Bear
10-02-2016, 05:46 AM
yeah boleyn models do dp for c4s and a few other sites too. from what i found there rates are the better of the two ... compared to dp.But thats just me... maybe xo
Casey where did you get this info from please? When I enquired about C4S Boleyn told me they do not do business with that site and it's not listed on their site as a partner either. If they do in fact offer daily pay on C4S I would happily convert from the other DP group as the only reason I am currently with them is because BM don't offer their service on that site.
PixiieGirl
10-02-2016, 05:49 AM
Casey where did you get this info from please? When I enquired about C4S Boleyn told me they do not do business with that site and it's not listed on their site as a partner either. If they do in fact offer daily pay on C4S I would happily convert from the other DP group as the only reason I am currently with them is because BM don't offer their service on that site.
do you mind me asking what % the other DP group take?
Teddy_Bear
10-02-2016, 05:52 AM
I feel like I'm probably missing something really obvious but I can't find what % they take on C4S, do you know?
It's 3% Pixiie so quite reasonable.
Caseycurvaceous
10-02-2016, 06:10 AM
Pixiie, im pretty sure they do , unless im getting confused as all my accounts
cam4
c4s
manyvids
cb
aw
and few others which i cant remember are all linked up to them and ive always had payouts.
But ask them for sure! - because they are super reasonable and alot more quick to the mark than dp (was with dp and never did get the vat crap sorted with them) and 6 outta 10 times was paid late! - apologies if its wrong but yeah im on ALOT of sites as backups because when one place goes tits up, its good to be on a backup! xo
sexysusie
10-02-2016, 06:12 AM
With Adultwork you can only use the card (I don't just mean just now with the crisis). But I use Global Bank Transfer for Streamate, Manyvids and ModelCentro. When they first started doing GBT I had to send many emails back and forth with Payoneer to change my payments from card to GBT which was a pain at the time but then it's been no bother since.
Same here for me with mfc and mgf. One hand doesn't know what the other is doing apparently, but they will change the pay method over if you're persistent.
RE Dp on c4s it does actually work out cheaper to go through dp than to get paid via cheque x
Classy_Katy
10-02-2016, 06:21 AM
Something else to consider, AW is the only site in the process of complying with the clamp down on access to pornography...and there is the whole video on demand issue to be concerned with too (which covers explicit still images as well as video). These things may catch up with us on other sites before long. Think I'll be looking to get back into regular employment again once I'm fully recovered from my surgery.
Caseycurvaceous
10-02-2016, 06:22 AM
very very true!
im in the process of becoming a language teacher and teach kids in china english online atm for a backup option!
but yes .. i totally get this
hope you have a speedy recovery xo
PixiieGirl
10-02-2016, 06:29 AM
Pixiie, im pretty sure they do , unless im getting confused as all my accounts
cam4
c4s
manyvids
cb
aw
and few others which i cant remember are all linked up to them and ive always had payouts.
But ask them for sure! - because they are super reasonable and alot more quick to the mark than dp (was with dp and never did get the vat crap sorted with them) and 6 outta 10 times was paid late! - apologies if its wrong but yeah im on ALOT of sites as backups because when one place goes tits up, its good to be on a backup! xo
the website doesn't list C4S and tbh 3% is so low anyway I'll probably go with the other group,
thanks though!
Princess_ki
10-02-2016, 06:29 AM
Is that not a good thing that they are complying with it ?
Blue-Velvet
10-02-2016, 06:34 AM
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much you cash you can withdraw from a Payoneer card in one go? If it comes to it and I have it all put on my Payoneer card, can I walk up to a cash machine at HSBC and withdraw £1,000 at once? With my regular debit card, I think there's a £200-300 maximum per day.
Princess_ki
10-02-2016, 06:36 AM
The most Iv drawed out in one go was £700 x that was at a NatWest ATM x
Classy_Katy
10-02-2016, 06:38 AM
Is that not a good thing that they are complying with it ?
Yes, my point was I don't know of any other sites that are and overseas sites won't need to...this will affect access to the sites and possibly purchasing from the UK.
Caseycurvaceous
10-02-2016, 06:39 AM
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much you cash you can withdraw from a Payoneer card in one go? If it comes to it and I have it all put on my Payoneer card, can I walk up to a cash machine at HSBC and withdraw £1,000 at once? With my regular debit card, I think there's a £200-300 maximum per day.
when i lived in the uk most i could take out was 700 from any machine with the card in a day! xo
sexysusie
10-02-2016, 06:39 AM
Not a chance I'm going back to 'regular' work. Upping my indie camming and slave collection efforts!
Caseycurvaceous
10-02-2016, 06:40 AM
Yes, my point was I don't know of any other sites that are and overseas sites won't need to...this will affect access to the sites and possibly purchasing from the UK.
exactly my thinking! - if they dont comply then what will happen. Times are hard :( xo
Caseycurvaceous
10-02-2016, 06:41 AM
Not a chance I'm going back to 'regular' work. Upping my indie camming and slave collection efforts!
ahaha! i feel you there ,however even when people ask me what i do i say im a personal sex therapist...
and vertical gymnast ... it works
but yeah indie camming will be the common thing soon and as for slaves i am sick to death of the POPUP dommes... PASS ME A GUN! xo
sexysusie
10-02-2016, 06:42 AM
I am a popup domme. No shame :D
Caseycurvaceous
10-02-2016, 06:45 AM
I am a popup domme. No shame :D
bahaha - by POPUP domme i mean the ones who have no knowledge at all , then dm you saying teach me!
SIGH ...
but less mass pray to the pussy gods that this shit blows over fast! xo
sexysusie
10-02-2016, 06:50 AM
Ahh right. No I have def done my research and a fair bit of experience. I'm just not necessarily 'into' it like (i believe) you should be to give a really good service. Don't care though, times are tough and these guys are willing to pay me for practically fuck all effort so i will take it and laugh all the way to the bank :D
Yep, definitely praying to the cam Gods right now. I will make do without AW if necessary but omg scary thought!
PixiieGirl
10-02-2016, 07:10 AM
bahaha - by POPUP domme i mean the ones who have no knowledge at all , then dm you saying teach me!
SIGH ...
but less mass pray to the pussy gods that this shit blows over fast! xo
haha that must be annoying, I'm a submissive by nature, no domme bones in my body - but I'm considering doing research and trying to learn cause I can't seem to find any guys who want sub camgirls ):
Caseycurvaceous
10-02-2016, 07:15 AM
haha that must be annoying, I'm a submissive by nature, no domme bones in my body - but I'm considering doing research and trying to learn cause I can't seem to find any guys who want sub camgirls ):
annoying beyond hell! i run my own dungeon in copenhagen
www.casey-curvaceous.com
and the amount of new girls who message me asking for help , i dont mind but then they use the whole fuck you pay me line ... and im done!
its sad but true theres a heck of alot more to being a domme than flipping the bird , showing your feet and saying paypig.But again people see it as easy money, its damn hard work to keep them going and the ones i do RL with thats where the major domme money is!.
Sub girls have a huge place online, in videos and things , play up to the submissive traits if you can find someone to video with even better , like just even a girl friend to tie you up and spank you that shit sells!!! just be creative with it xo
Blonde-Ambition
10-02-2016, 07:23 AM
Payoneer question- how do i know if my account is linked to AW?
xx
PixiieGirl
10-02-2016, 07:24 AM
annoying beyond hell! i run my own dungeon in copenhagen
www.casey-curvaceous.com
and the amount of new girls who message me asking for help , i dont mind but then they use the whole fuck you pay me line ... and im done!
its sad but true theres a heck of alot more to being a domme than flipping the bird , showing your feet and saying paypig.But again people see it as easy money, its damn hard work to keep them going and the ones i do RL with thats where the major domme money is!.
Sub girls have a huge place online, in videos and things , play up to the submissive traits if you can find someone to video with even better , like just even a girl friend to tie you up and spank you that shit sells!!! just be creative with it xo
yeah I'm gonna continue with my sub stuff in videos, I have a boyfriend/dom who's willing to film with me so once he's all settled into his new university course thats our plan! I just dont seem to ever get sub requests on cam haha
LolaLu
10-02-2016, 07:36 AM
annoying beyond hell! i run my own dungeon in copenhagen
www.casey-curvaceous.com
and the amount of new girls who message me asking for help , i dont mind but then they use the whole fuck you pay me line ... and im done!
its sad but true theres a heck of alot more to being a domme than flipping the bird , showing your feet and saying paypig.But again people see it as easy money, its damn hard work to keep them going and the ones i do RL with thats where the major domme money is!.
Sub girls have a huge place online, in videos and things , play up to the submissive traits if you can find someone to video with even better , like just even a girl friend to tie you up and spank you that shit sells!!! just be creative with it xo
I want to go to a proper dungeon in London/Essex for proper training when I get the ££ for it. I get overwhelmed easily and as much as I have read on the subject I still feel as though I need to physically see it in action to be able to do it justice x