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LolaLu
10-12-2016, 03:10 PM
Personally I love it when they come into paid and start abusing me! I looooove it. I watch those numbers go up while the idiot rants at me and then fucks off. I laugh. Totally cheers me up when I get trolled/abused and they are paying ME for this. LMAO.

With you on that! They can call me what they like if they are paying for it!! Lol

LolaLu
10-12-2016, 03:12 PM
Yesterday I was actually busier on TTM than AW for a change - Sometimes I think my English accent goes against me a little on TTM but, I like it on there its not a bad little side site at all x

Really??? For some reason I thought it wold be way busier. I can go all day without a call on AW occasionally. It can't be quieter than that surely?!

CatBBW
10-12-2016, 03:42 PM
Really??? For some reason I thought it wold be way busier. I can go all day without a call on AW occasionally. It can't be quieter than that surely?!

LOL - ditto!

Kristen_Krystal
10-12-2016, 04:06 PM
Really??? For some reason I thought it wold be way busier. I can go all day without a call on AW occasionally. It can't be quieter than that surely?!

Last night on AW I had a crap night. I sold one pvt gallery and just one phone call! But I was busier on TTM.

Tonight I've been busy on AW and not had one call yet on TTM.

I've been on TTM for a year compared to few years now on AW & the longer you're on a site the busier you get I tend to find.

For me though TTM is not as busy as AW but its still well worth logging on for - Saying that I probably don't give as much attention to TTM as AW but I'm trying to improve on that now x

Kristen_Krystal
10-12-2016, 04:13 PM
I also think the problem with TTM for us in the UK is the time difference. I tend to work only nights on AW so in the states its like the afternoon so it won't be as busy at the times I'm logged on. If you do days on AW then you'll get the early morning guys on TTM so you may well be much busier x

sexysusie
10-12-2016, 05:20 PM
Last night on AW I had a crap night. I sold one pvt gallery and just one phone call! But I was busier on TTM.

Tonight I've been busy on AW and not had one call yet on TTM.

I've been on TTM for a year compared to few years now on AW & the longer you're on a site the busier you get I tend to find.

For me though TTM is not as busy as AW but its still well worth logging on for - Saying that I probably don't give as much attention to TTM as AW but I'm trying to improve on that now x

I thought max prices on TTM were $2.99 and it's only a 50% cut? I won't accept making less than $50 a day for side sites and there's no way I'd work seriously hard for that or for more than a couple of hours. Is it really worth a look?

Kristen_Krystal
10-12-2016, 05:39 PM
I thought max prices on TTM were $2.99 and it's only a 50% cut? I won't accept making less than $50 a day for side sites and there's no way I'd work seriously hard for that or for more than a couple of hours. Is it really worth a look?

Personally I don't make $50 a day on TTM every day but you might, I can't say. The max is $2.99 but you can ask them to raise your rate but I doubt they'll do that until you've got some decent fb.

I doubt many people would make $50 in 2 hours every day guaranteed on any phone chat site though - Would be nice though :)

For me I like the site & although it doesn't pay AW money, it does pay a few extra bills each month so its worth doing and they pay me via Paxum rather than a check which is good for me.

Its like anything in life - you get out what you put into it.

The guys on TTM are more likely to tip than on AW I find & galleries sell quite well.

I think the percentage cut works out very similar to night flirt I get more of a split than 50% I'm sure I do but maybe they changed it recently - I'm not sure.

Before I joined TTM I looked a NF & for me I decided TTM was the better of the two as a little side site x

Kristen_Krystal
10-12-2016, 06:01 PM
@SexySusie I forgot to mention you can Cam on there as well & I have a cam profile although I've never used it as yet but, I did ask them to raise my rate & they raised to $4.99 and I'd asked for $6.99 but they said that was the most they would raise it too at that time.

I suppose if I actually got on my cam and got some fb I'd be in a better position when I asked them to raise it higher.

sexysusie
10-12-2016, 06:55 PM
I set up a profile and put my phone rate at 2.99 it said I would get $1.05 of that which is 35%, not 50. NF is 70%! Just worked it out and that's a max of 84 pence per min phone and £1.39 cam. Yikes!!

Kristen_Krystal
10-12-2016, 07:27 PM
I set up a profile and put my phone rate at 2.99 it said I would get $1.05 of that which is 35%, not 50. NF is 70%! Just worked it out and that's a max of 84 pence per min phone and £1.39 cam. Yikes!!

I'm off to bed now Susie but tomorrow when I log on ttm I'll change my rate to the same to compare because I'm sure that when I signed up it was around 60%

I remember thinking to myself it seemed similar to the cut on NF because although they say they pay 70% there was like extra connection charges for us in the UK & that's what made me think they're about the same.

Anyway - I'll let you know tomorrow if my % is the same because I seem to remember reading a comment on the ttm thread about ttm changing the percentage for new talkers but I could be wrong on that but I'm sure I wouldn't of signed up if I though I was only getting 35% really x

Kristen_Krystal
10-12-2016, 07:35 PM
I've just checked Susie now :) I get $1.20 if I charged $2.99 so its slightly more but not much!

There's also a small processing fee if you are paid out by Paxum or cheque - I think its just a few dollars though.

Its not putting me off because I like the site despite the poor cut & I view it as just a little egg site.

When DP Colin starts his NF group I'm going to sign up with them x

Anyway Night night xxxx

sexysusie
10-12-2016, 08:23 PM
I remember thinking to myself it seemed similar to the cut on NF because although they say they pay 70% there was like extra connection charges for us in the UK & that's what made me think they're about the same.

We get about 65% total after connection fee. Are your calls on TTM constant? I guess I could offer ignore at 2.99 per min x

Kristen_Krystal
10-12-2016, 10:22 PM
We get about 65% total after connection fee. Are your calls on TTM constant? I guess I could offer ignore at 2.99 per min x

No, they're not constant but, like I've already said - I feel its worth it as long as you have realistic expectations for a phone chat site.

You could try offering a $2.99 ignore fetish chat line but I don't think you'll get many takers but I could be wrong - You can have up to 3 live profiles at a time so maybe make one of them an ignore line?

You're probably better off sticking with NF if you're getting constant calls on there - I'll be joining myself now because I didn't realise it was so busy on there - If I'm going to be constantly busy then it sounds like its going to be well worth messing around having to cash out their checks. That was what was putting me off NF.

Is NiteFlirt truly that busy Susie? If it is I'll be able to be Mortgage free in no time if put in a full 8 hours a day :)

MistressCristal
10-13-2016, 01:15 AM
My NF isn't as busy as it used to be but I don't market it effectively. I get more calls on AW, except until we get paid, I'm not logging on. Will be using the down time to market my NF profile. As for cheques; I don't have a problem. In fact, I paid one it yesterday. Charges are minimal at my bank and normally clears within 3 working days. I guess it depends where your bank is.

Blonde-Ambition
10-13-2016, 01:16 AM
Where is our money!??????

MistressCristal
10-13-2016, 01:20 AM
That's what I'd like to know. But in all fairness, they did say by close of play today. I'm giving them until 12pm then I'll see if they can update us. I'm trying to be patient but with constant "oh you'll get paid on x date", my patience is starting to wear a little thin...

Blue-Velvet
10-13-2016, 01:21 AM
The bottom has dropped out of NF for me in the past few months and I'm making about 1/5 of what I used to normally make on there. TTM takes a higher cut, but when I considered how much I lose on NF on a daily basis for paid positioning, I don't think it will make that much of a difference. It's a pay-per-click system on NF, so most days I lose a few dollars for advertising. I still haven't worked out what crazy algorithm NF uses for your "listing value score, ie. how much it costs to bump your profile". I still have plenty of regulars and 5-star reviews, but it's costing me more to bump my profile. Because of my living circumstances, I prefer phone to cam for work.

fetishbootslut
10-13-2016, 01:21 AM
My NF isn't as busy as it used to be but I don't market it effectively. I get more calls on AW, except until we get paid, I'm not logging on. Will be using the down time to market my NF profile. As for cheques; I don't have a problem. In fact, I paid one it yesterday. Charges are minimal at my bank and normally clears within 3 working days. I guess it depends where your bank is.

Hello & welcome Cristal x

MistressCristal
10-13-2016, 01:26 AM
Thank you!!! Decided to come here because it's still handbags at 50 paces in the AW forum! lol

PixiieGirl
10-13-2016, 01:34 AM
I actually got my first tip on AW yesterday! I've started telling guys who ask me to do something in free they have to tip (like stand up or show tongue or something, not nudity of course) cause it usually makes them fuck off but this one guy was like "ok how much?" and then he tipped double what I asked, left right after to, was really shocked tbh hahahah

also the always being logged into free chat on IM is really driving up my profile views! not had many more videos or gallery sales but I dont actually have that much for sale, gonna put some time into making more content :)

gina123
10-13-2016, 01:36 AM
I've been using adultwork as my main cam site for a while now but have been worried about pay so have been camming on xxXpanded for a while now and have been getting lots of paid clients and my money comes every Friday. It's good to have other options with the uncertainty about everything now.

Gina xx

Blue-Velvet
10-13-2016, 01:38 AM
Thank you!!! Decided to come here because it's still handbags at 50 paces in the AW forum! lol

I honestly cannot abide that forum. All the shoulda/coulda/woulda stuff is not helpful or supportive. For the record, I was "good" and had 3 methods of transfer set up, per Adultwork's advice: UK bank, EU bank, and Paxum, all of which were fucked by PacNet. I applied for a Payoneer card and it's still not here. I'm VERY LUCKY right now in that I can fall back on my savings and credit cards, but all it would take is a disaster to happen and I wouldn't have that to rely on. My mother back in America nearly died last month, so had I had to make an emergency trip to America at a moment's notice, all of those savings would have been gone and then some. It amazes me how people can preach to others about what they SHOULD HAVE DONE before all this kicked off, when I for one, know that sometimes shit happens and it's unavoidable and nothing to do with how well we plan for the future. We're all doing the best that we can in a stressful situation, so all the "pull your finger out of your ass" advice elsewhere is borderline cruel right now.

PixiieGirl
10-13-2016, 01:41 AM
I honestly cannot abide that forum. All the shoulda/coulda/woulda stuff is not helpful or supportive. For the record, I was "good" and had 3 methods of transfer set up, per Adultwork's advice: UK bank, EU bank, and Paxum, all of which were fucked by PacNet. I applied for a Payoneer card and it's still not here. I'm VERY LUCKY right now in that I can fall back on my savings and credit cards, but all it would take is a disaster to happen and I wouldn't have that to rely on. My mother back in America nearly died last month, so had I had to make an emergency trip to America at a moment's notice, all of those savings would have been gone and then some. It amazes me how people can preach to others about what they SHOULD HAVE DONE before all this kicked off, when I for one, know that sometimes shit happens and it's unavoidable and nothing to do with how well we plan for the future. We're all doing the best that we can in a stressful situation, so all the "pull your finger out of your ass" advice elsewhere is borderline cruel right now.
I've never seen this forum but yeah that attitude sounds super unhelpful and just not nice, especially at a time when people are very stressed :/

MistressCristal
10-13-2016, 02:22 AM
I honestly cannot abide that forum. All the shoulda/coulda/woulda stuff is not helpful or supportive. For the record, I was "good" and had 3 methods of transfer set up, per Adultwork's advice: UK bank, EU bank, and Paxum, all of which were fucked by PacNet. I applied for a Payoneer card and it's still not here. I'm VERY LUCKY right now in that I can fall back on my savings and credit cards, but all it would take is a disaster to happen and I wouldn't have that to rely on. My mother back in America nearly died last month, so had I had to make an emergency trip to America at a moment's notice, all of those savings would have been gone and then some. It amazes me how people can preach to others about what they SHOULD HAVE DONE before all this kicked off, when I for one, know that sometimes shit happens and it's unavoidable and nothing to do with how well we plan for the future. We're all doing the best that we can in a stressful situation, so all the "pull your finger out of your ass" advice elsewhere is borderline cruel right now.


Oh I had a belly full of that yesterday. The "oh I'm better than you because I sorted out alternatives." In actual fact; and as DP explained, Paxum/Payoneer really is a last resort because of their huge fees. I would only use it if all other avenues had been exhausted. As it is; they haven't - I'm smart enough not to put all my eggs in one basket; so I have other ways to earn. Plus, I'd rather sit it out rather than have my earnings swallowed up by greedy fees.

But some of them on there just like to be antagonistic because they don't get enough attention. I can't be bothered with that. I much prefer mature conversation.

CatBBW
10-13-2016, 02:26 AM
deleted cos commenting on spam isn't worth a bean.

Arwen25
10-13-2016, 02:44 AM
I honestly cannot abide that forum. All the shoulda/coulda/woulda stuff is not helpful or supportive. For the record, I was "good" and had 3 methods of transfer set up, per Adultwork's advice: UK bank, EU bank, and Paxum, all of which were fucked by PacNet. I applied for a Payoneer card and it's still not here. I'm VERY LUCKY right now in that I can fall back on my savings and credit cards, but all it would take is a disaster to happen and I wouldn't have that to rely on. My mother back in America nearly died last month, so had I had to make an emergency trip to America at a moment's notice, all of those savings would have been gone and then some. It amazes me how people can preach to others about what they SHOULD HAVE DONE before all this kicked off, when I for one, know that sometimes shit happens and it's unavoidable and nothing to do with how well we plan for the future. We're all doing the best that we can in a stressful situation, so all the "pull your finger out of your ass" advice elsewhere is borderline cruel right now.

Yeah, fuck that.

I am staying well away from that place in that case.

I hope your mum is doing better now.

It's nasty to revel in people struggling financially..we all have a plethora or reasons for needing money. Who, let's say with a Vanilla job, wouldn't complain if their pay was over three weeks late? My mates and boyfriend would have a friggin melt down and he earns just fine ffs.

So will we get our pay today do you reckon? I had a dream last night where I was helping a homeless lady find a shelter..hmm.
I swear, I wish Payoneer had worked, would have transferred it there when I had the chance! x

fetishbootslut
10-13-2016, 02:51 AM
You can still use paxum Blue for wire transfer I know still a fee but as last resort x

Arwen25
10-13-2016, 02:55 AM
Thank you! I am still trying to get approved. That would go in to my bank for a £50 fee, wouldn't it?

If they drag this out any longer they better well give us the option of changing payment processor..grr.

Am going to sign up to MFC if pay isn't in today. It's so bloody frustrating as I do so consistently well on AW..:( x

fetishbootslut
10-13-2016, 02:57 AM
I think with the exchange rate it is about £40 ish it is $50 if you ask Lola on here she has done some transcations so knows the cost best also she put some handy info on how to do it, few pages back now think round 312 x I will be using on monday or if today doesnt materialise and they should give us the pending back too to move out x

Blue-Velvet
10-13-2016, 03:13 AM
You can still use paxum Blue for wire transfer I know still a fee but as last resort x

Yeah, I know. I'm just loathe to pay $50 unless I absolutely have to. I lose enough in AW's 30% cut, not to mention paying to be featured, paying HMRC, etc. For my UK earnings, I'm fundamentally opposed to paying other people for access to my earnings. Fair enough for USD earnings, and obviously I'd have to use Paxum/Payoneer if it came down to it, but for now I'm crossing every available part of my body in the hope that today is the day the clouds part and I see money in my bank account. x

IrishCamGirl
10-13-2016, 03:19 AM
Hopefully we'll get an update or our money soon. Is anyone else constantly disconnecting from DirectCam?

fetishbootslut
10-13-2016, 03:33 AM
Yeah, I know. I'm just loathe to pay $50 unless I absolutely have to. I lose enough in AW's 30% cut, not to mention paying to be featured, paying HMRC, etc. For my UK earnings, I'm fundamentally opposed to paying other people for access to my earnings. Fair enough for USD earnings, and obviously I'd have to use Paxum/Payoneer if it came down to it, but for now I'm crossing every available part of my body in the hope that today is the day the clouds part and I see money in my bank account. x

Yes I see what you saying about everything but I will be using if nothing by monday to get my money moving some of what is on account anyway as a cost for now I will pay to get some money in as they say. Yes it also that time of year I do my books for accountant so more expense ! x

Blue-Velvet
10-13-2016, 04:09 AM
Yes I see what you saying about everything but I will be using if nothing by monday to get my money moving some of what is on account anyway as a cost for now I will pay to get some money in as they say. Yes it also that time of year I do my books for accountant so more expense ! x

Yep, if this isn't sorted by the next credits cutoff, I'll decide whether I'll use Payoneer or Paxum by that point as it will be 4 weeks of credits built up!

MistressCristal
10-13-2016, 04:11 AM
Just to let you guys know; the daily pay service has received their funds - this is VERY good news. This means AW have started paying out again - fingers crossed - big smiley positive faces!

CatBBW
10-13-2016, 04:14 AM
Just to let you guys know; the daily pay service has received their funds - this is VERY good news. This means AW have started paying out again - fingers crossed - big smiley positive faces!

Yes, it's good news that (one of) the new processor(s) are actually doing their job :)

Finally we might start seeing ladies posting that their money has arrived... *goes to check bank AGAIN*

MistressCristal
10-13-2016, 04:20 AM
No. False alarm - Colin has said it was from "other sources". AW haven't paid out yet. I have asked for an update...still waiting...

CatBBW
10-13-2016, 04:22 AM
No. False alarm - Colin has said it was from "other sources". AW haven't paid out yet. I have asked for an update...still waiting...

:(


5 hours until Thursday's close of business, yet so far not one person or group has declared they've received funds.

sexysusie
10-13-2016, 04:23 AM
No, they're not constant but, like I've already said - I feel its worth it as long as you have realistic expectations for a phone chat site.

You could try offering a $2.99 ignore fetish chat line but I don't think you'll get many takers but I could be wrong - You can have up to 3 live profiles at a time so maybe make one of them an ignore line?

You're probably better off sticking with NF if you're getting constant calls on there - I'll be joining myself now because I didn't realise it was so busy on there - If I'm going to be constantly busy then it sounds like its going to be well worth messing around having to cash out their checks. That was what was putting me off NF.

Is NiteFlirt truly that busy Susie? If it is I'll be able to be Mortgage free in no time if put in a full 8 hours a day :)

I was asking if ttm calls were constant as you'd need a LOT of them at those low rates to make decent money. I guess I am surprised at why girls are using it when you can make far more elsewhere for less effort and a higher %. No NF isnt particulaely busy but at 3.99 phone and 5.99 cam with phone I need only a couple of calls or one Skype per hour I'm logged on to make what I deem acceptable income for a side site. I've been a pso and cam model a long time now and have learned to work smarter not harder. I choose sites based on their potential to meet my expectations, not by simply 'putting more effort in' x

DancesWithSloths
10-13-2016, 04:24 AM
Have to tell you girls, I've been using Paxum throughout (via Boleyn), and without the EFT payout option the fees are not pretty.

Still better than no money for 3 weeks, but there's still financial loss involved.

sexysusie
10-13-2016, 04:58 AM
Re payoneer and paxum, here's a breakdown from AW. While you are paying more for your money the fees are not sky high, and definitely cheaper than 5% of your earnings x

http://i.imgur.com/Oeytizy.jpg

fetishbootslut
10-13-2016, 05:03 AM
You dont have a annual payment to pay with the fees when I opened paxum or Lola when I asked her if you have a card account there is a $45 fee but for having a account with them to use for say wire payments it is the $50 plus the conversion from $ to £'s x

Blue-Velvet
10-13-2016, 05:17 AM
Well, I just received my Payoneer card in the post, so if things aren't sorted by Tuesday midnight, I'm throwing 4 week's worth of built-up credits onto that.

fetishbootslut
10-13-2016, 05:21 AM
I will do the same with my paxum. When you applied for you payoneer card did you do from the aw link from the credits transfer page as I have a payoneer account but international one for recieving monies but AW as you know only use the card payout so when I rung payoneer the women said wehn you request a card make sure you do from the AW page to link it to the card otherwise it not linked did you do that?. x

Arwen25
10-13-2016, 05:24 AM
I didn't I signed up through Payoneer directly. I have the card and an account but am now really struggling to get them to do anything about it. Correspondence is painfully slow and I am not sure they'll even be able to do it. :( If no one has money by now I am guessing it's just not going to happen.. x

Blue-Velvet
10-13-2016, 05:38 AM
I will do the same with my paxum. When you applied for you payoneer card did you do from the aw link from the credits transfer page as I have a payoneer account but international one for recieving monies but AW as you know only use the card payout so when I rung payoneer the women said wehn you request a card make sure you do from the AW page to link it to the card otherwise it not linked did you do that?. x

Well, when I first signed up, I made the mistake of doing it straight through payoneer.com. It didn't link to my AW account, so I had to go back to the AW credits transfer page and click through that to set up a second account with a second email. That one linked and it's the one connected to the card I just got. It took several days of going back and forth with Payoneer over their apparent confusion with me being a US citizen, but a UK resident. I was literally asked to submit the same 3 documents 3 times before they finally approved my account.

fetishbootslut
10-13-2016, 06:16 AM
Least it is linked this time for you so on monday can withdraw would of used but going to ATM to pull out loads so Paxum wire it will be.

CatBBW
10-13-2016, 06:28 AM
Well, when I first signed up, I made the mistake of doing it straight through payoneer.com. It didn't link to my AW account, so I had to go back to the AW credits transfer page and click through that to set up a second account with a second email. That one linked and it's the one connected to the card I just got.

I don't understand this Payoneer thing. If you sign up through the Payoneer site you can't get payment from any site, so you have to go direct through the site you work on...but what if you have more than one site you work on? Do you end up with loads of Payoneer accounts cos you have to sign up direct through each? If not, and you only use the one, why can't you just use the directly-signed-up-for account?

fetishbootslut
10-13-2016, 06:28 AM
trying to find the post from who wrote about chatrecruit but it seems to off gone it was over last night I think how weird wanted to ask there payout options?. x

CatBBW
10-13-2016, 06:34 AM
trying to find the post from who wrote about chatrecruit but it seems to off gone it was over last night I think how weird wanted to ask there payout options?. x

It was reported due to it being a studio/whitelabel spam post from a 1 post newbie. If the site itself isn't clear about payment - or even, for that matter, where you are supposed to be camming - it's not one any of us should be signing away our rights/cash to.

LittleFlirtyJayne
10-13-2016, 06:41 AM
Is anyone else feeling a bit like an idiot for checking their bank account every 10 mins for the last 4 days when clearly they were just mugging us all off haha! Arggghh this is awful, it's my birthday this weekend aswell, the backdated pay in my account would have been a great present !!