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Blue-Velvet
03-07-2018, 02:38 AM
Is there a way of telling how many views a video clip has had? I just had a guy tell me that one of mine has had 802 views, yet I can count on one hand the amount of times I've been paid for it. He's a bit thick (putting it nicely) so I'm not sure if he's right or what. If it's getting that many views, it makes me consider pulling all of my clips from the site and putting them where people actually have to pay to view them. I'm aware of freeviews, and don't really mind the odd freeview here and there, but 802 views is a bit much for me to tolerate! I know I can put the price up, but then I think I'm pricing it out of the market for what it is.
winnipeg
03-07-2018, 02:40 AM
Is there a way of telling how many views a video clip has had? I just had a guy tell me that one of mine has had 802 views, yet I can count on one hand the amount of times I've been paid for it. He's a bit thick (putting it nicely) so I'm not sure if he's right or what. If it's getting that many views, it makes me consider pulling all of my clips from the site and putting them where people actually have to pay to view them. I'm aware of freeviews, and don't really mind the odd freeview here and there, but 802 views is a bit much for me to tolerate! I know I can put the price up, but then I think I'm pricing it out of the market for what it is.
Can they be watched multiple times over a 24h period?
Blue-Velvet
03-07-2018, 02:49 AM
Can they be watched multiple times over a 24h period?
I thought they only had 15 or so minutes to watch it, but it's been so long since I really looked it up. Video clips are not my thing and I don't have many, but I'd rather make 0 money out of it than make £25 off of hundreds of people watching for free. Nah, fuck that.
Classy_Katy
03-07-2018, 02:56 AM
They should only have 15 minutes to watch but they are easy to download and can then be played for varying amounts of time...some will stop playing.
I don't see any viewed counter, I think only they see that. The counter must be in relation to movies viewed on the site...so they must be watching them using their free views. They can do this with any movie or photo gallery that costs 10 credits or less, which is my gallery is 11 credits. They are only meant to be able to see one of our movies using freeview, once ever but who knows what is really going on!
Blue-Velvet
03-07-2018, 02:58 AM
Ok so I just looked it up, and movie clips can be viewed multiple times for 15 minutes. Movie rentals are for however long you specifify a price for. Anyway, I also saw this in the help section:
"I haven't received credits for my movies
As set out in the Shared Revenue Programme:
"Credits will be awarded after each movie has been viewed twice in any one day. This is to help us cover our bandwidth charges."
This does not apply to Movie Rentals or Verified Members.
Please click here for more information.
It may also be possible that other members have used their Freeviews to watch your movie."
Does this mean I have to sell a movie clip twice before they actually pay me for it??
Classy_Katy
03-07-2018, 03:03 AM
You're ok if you're a verified member.
They'll be using freeviews to make that counter go up so high.
Blue-Velvet
03-07-2018, 03:14 AM
Well, I've just bumped it up to 10.50, which made it 12.60 with VAT. It probably won't sell at that price, but if I'm only getting paid for .01% of the amount of times guys fap to it, so be it.
LolaLu
03-07-2018, 03:58 AM
Well that's confusing! they don't make these things easy to understand do they? Try their live help and ask the question.
fetishqueen
03-07-2018, 05:34 AM
I thought they only had 15 or so minutes to watch it, but it's been so long since I really looked it up. Video clips are not my thing and I don't have many, but I'd rather make 0 money out of it than make £25 off of hundreds of people watching for free. Nah, fuck that.
I'm not sure I agree that it's better to make nothing than something. No offence but once a clip is up for sale, it's up. Anything made from it is a bonus however little it is, you may as well make something. :)
I have quite a lot of clips and I'd dearly love to see a breakdown of how many each one has sold. I can see on my credits when they sell but it would be nice to actually see figures. The system does seem confusing. I think AW can improve a lot in many ways but we still use it as the market is huge. As far as I'm concerned I use most of the earning streams they offer and to have it all in one place is great, if a little 'eggs in one basket'. I do use other sites too for similar things, clips etc which are better but they only do clips. AW do a lot all in one place and while it's not perfect, we all earn from it.
I do see no reason though why we couldn't access a breakdown of our clips sales, they do have that info after all.
Blonde-Ambition
03-07-2018, 05:35 AM
AND the same again today!? where is everyone!?
Blue-Velvet
03-07-2018, 07:15 AM
I would like a breakdown of how many movie clips have sold and how many movie clips have been viewed as freeviews. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been my understanding that if you sell a certain movie clip on AW, they forbid you to sell it on other sites. If I go to the trouble to make a clip, I'd rather sell it on the other sites I work on (who don't have exclusivity rules and don't have freeviews), than put it up on AW for £25 profit after over 800 views. I know people put the same clips on various websites regardless of the rules, but it was always my understanding that, along with profile photos, AW insist that the content you sell is exclusive to AW. I need to prioritise where a video clip is going to give me the highest profit margin.
I live in a small rural community. I'm a mother. There's a limit to how much I want to put myself out there for free, so to me, it's not worth having a video on AW for such a small profit in exchange for loads of exposure. If I'm going to get outed, at least let it be for a decent profit. I mostly work phone lines and IM. If I were single and didn't have other people in my life to consider, I wouldn't give a flying fuck how many people saw me. I would work the hell out of social media and self-promotion. I wouldn't care so much if a video had loads of freeviews. As it stands, I can't market myself in the same way that a lot of people in this industry do. I have to find a decent balance between marketing myself and retaining a bit of anonymity for the sake of my personal life and family. Maybe this makes no sense to a lot of people, but it's just my own personal circumstances.
LolaLu
03-07-2018, 07:22 AM
None of my clips are exclusive to adultwork. If that's the case I'll pull them all to put them elsewhere. It's my content and I'll sell it where I like. I always thought it was only the 3 profile pics that had to be exclusive.
CatBBW
03-07-2018, 07:57 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been my understanding that if you sell a certain movie clip on AW, they forbid you to sell it on other sites.
No. It's only the 3 main profile pics that have to be exclusive.
Blue-Velvet
03-07-2018, 08:00 AM
None of my clips are exclusive to adultwork. If that's the case I'll pull them all to put them elsewhere. It's my content and I'll sell it where I like. I always thought it was only the 3 profile pics that had to be exclusive.
Yeah, I've just gone through the terms and can't find anything saying you can't put the same videos on other sites. I don't know where I got that from, but maybe it was one of those posts about Sweetkick who seem to make up their own rules for non-British providers. I know your 3 profile photos have to be exclusive, but I thought Sweetkick was insisting that even gallery photos have to be exclusive. I'm not with Sweetkick, but I'm not a British citizen either, so I feel like I'm under extra scrutiny and perhaps a bit paranoid.
fetishqueen
03-07-2018, 08:06 AM
I would like a breakdown of how many movie clips have sold and how many movie clips have been viewed as freeviews. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been my understanding that if you sell a certain movie clip on AW, they forbid you to sell it on other sites. If I go to the trouble to make a clip, I'd rather sell it on the other sites I work on (who don't have exclusivity rules and don't have freeviews), than put it up on AW for £25 profit after over 800 views. I know people put the same clips on various websites regardless of the rules, but it was always my understanding that, along with profile photos, AW insist that the content you sell is exclusive to AW. I need to prioritise where a video clip is going to give me the highest profit margin.
I live in a small rural community. I'm a mother. There's a limit to how much I want to put myself out there for free, so to me, it's not worth having a video on AW for such a small profit in exchange for loads of exposure. If I'm going to get outed, at least let it be for a decent profit. I mostly work phone lines and IM. If I were single and didn't have other people in my life to consider, I wouldn't give a flying fuck how many people saw me. I would work the hell out of social media and self-promotion. I wouldn't care so much if a video had loads of freeviews. As it stands, I can't market myself in the same way that a lot of people in this industry do. I have to find a decent balance between marketing myself and retaining a bit of anonymity for the sake of my personal life and family. Maybe this makes no sense to a lot of people, but it's just my own personal circumstances.
It makes perfect sense :) I thought the AW clips could be used elsewhere too, obviously if it was exclusive then yes of course you put the clip where it makes the most money. If you mean you don't show your face on AW nor do I so it gets cut from all my clips. I find AW good for selling the short 30 second or 1 minute clips that I can bang out (so to speak!) quite easily. Longer clips go elsewhere.
We all work in our own ways and I didn't mean to offend you, guess I just read it as you would rather make nothing than something which confused me! Anyway perhaps now you can put those clips in other places too and make more £££! :D
Classy_Katy
03-07-2018, 10:57 AM
Our movies can be posted wherever we choose.
I have my private gallery at 11 credits so guys can't download all my photos for free. I would rather have fewer private gallery sales.
LolaLu
03-07-2018, 12:13 PM
Forget I posted lol
CatBBW
03-07-2018, 07:20 PM
Heads up: "Period Play" has been removed from the "Enjoys" list.
Kristen_Krystal
03-08-2018, 03:15 PM
The guys can only view the pvt gallery once per customer. I get a fair few telling me they're viewing it on Direct Chat so at least I get a call out of it. I'm going to start putting any new pictures in folders & that way if a customer views one folder for free he'll have to pay if he wants to see any more.
LolaLu
03-10-2018, 04:28 AM
Is that for freeview Kristen? Mine are all in folders but I get them looking at the 5 or 6 I have in my public gallery when they call! *smh*
Classy_Katy
03-10-2018, 06:31 AM
I am sure they can access our entire private gallery when they pay. The albums are for when we want to give access to a specific album with a PIN for them to use.
Kristen_Krystal
03-10-2018, 08:23 AM
I am sure they can access our entire private gallery when they pay. The albums are for when we want to give access to a specific album with a PIN for them to use.
I'm not sure now - I created a few albums a while back now & they was all different prices. I had two albums at 10 credits each I think they was that didn't sell at all so I deleted them & then I had my regular pvt gallery which is 3.60. I don't think the guys viewing the cheaper one could access the more expensive ones. What would be the point being able to set prices for them?
I did put a pin on them also but I'm sure I individually priced them at 10 credits each.
Edit - I've just checked you can put a pin price on each album - its optional so they buy the pin. If you click on the manage albums tab it gives you option to add your price. That way the guys can only view one album per profile.
Kristen_Krystal
03-10-2018, 08:40 AM
Is that for freeview Kristen? Mine are all in folders but I get them looking at the 5 or 6 I have in my public gallery when they call! *smh*
Yes - they're often using the free view because I ask them which pictures are turning them on & it'll be some in the pvt gallery & funnily enough my most popular pictures are a set where I'm wearing a frumpy 1970's vintage summer dress or my strapon pictures seem to go down quite well ;D
Kristen_Krystal
03-10-2018, 09:34 AM
I see what you mean now Katy. If the Private Gallery as a whole was priced at 3 credits and then each album is also 3 credits then they'd just but the entire gallery for the set time so you'd have to make the full gallery more expensive like say 20 credits and then each album at say 3 credits for that to work & then at least they can't see all of your pictures for free.
Classy_Katy
03-10-2018, 10:20 AM
As it's so easy to download our photos, I have set my private gallery at 11 credits so they can't view them for free. It does still sell...
CanTheCan
03-10-2018, 10:25 AM
Paxum made those changes about a months ago but I wouldn't worry about it 180 days is a long time and your bound to make several payouts on TTM in that time even id you can't work much.
They have also stopped EFT in GBP - Its Euro only now for us in the UK. So, you need to add your international banking details so they can still pay you & they recommended just double check with your UK bank about charges for receiving EURO. My bank doesn't charge. Its a pain but its still better than getting a check from TTM x
Thanks Kristen, for some reason I didn't get any email alert notifications re this thread & only just noticed your reply. I did in the end log in to Paxum and accept the terms and conditions on their site.
I am such a dummy I hadnt realized that TTM automatically generated a payment once you hit the $50 mark, I thought it was like AW in that I had to select it when I was ready.. i.e., payment processing. Anyway...I had hit that mark and TTM automatically put the money into Paxum so I had no other choice other than to select the new terms and conditions/180 day thing.
Also when I logged in I noticed it said my 2 UK bank accounts now only accept WIRE! and the EFT method shows as 'Not Available' -- I see you say this below but I'm not sure what you mean. The 2 UK Banks I have verified on there are Santander and Nationwide, are you saying I need to ring them to check they dont charge if funds are paid in in Euro? and also I need to get additional (international) codes. God this is all so confusing! Any advice would be appreciated.
"They have also stopped EFT in GBP - Its Euro only now for us in the UK. So, you need to add your international banking details so they can still pay you & they recommended just double check with your UK bank about charges for receiving EURO. My bank doesn't charge. Its a pain but its still better than getting a check from TTM x".
Does this mean, SWIFT and IBAN codes? If so these are already provided on my Paxum. I notice the SWIFT box is ticked, (I can't remember if I selected at that when I opened it or if Paxum put it to that since the new changes) --- anyway..... do you mean I need to ring my Banks and find out from them if I have Euro currency paid in to that account do I need to pay a currency conversion fee and if I don't need to pay then on Paxm I then select the EFT box (as the moment it is showing as SWIFT.. if that makes sense).
CanTheCan
03-10-2018, 10:43 AM
Kristen, I seem to have been able to change my 2 UK bank accounts Santander and Nationwide to accept EFT via Paxum! (i.e., I fiddled a bit and its now showing as 'Available' for EFT)..... However should I also phone those banks to find out if they charge a currency conversion rate before transferring any funds into them?
Also just in case those banks DO charge currency conv rates do you mind me enquiring what Bank you are with that DOESN'T charge Euro conversion rates. You can PM if you prefer not to say on the board, its just that I do have other bank accounts with different UK High Street Banks but I just haven't linked them to my Paxum, however if they don't charge the Euro con rates then it might be worth me linking them to my Paxum if you follow.
Blue-Velvet
03-11-2018, 11:05 AM
Also just in case those banks DO charge currency conv rates do you mind me enquiring what Bank you are with that DOESN'T charge Euro conversion rates.
I'm with HSBC and they don't charge me anything to convert Euro to GBP when I withdraw from Paxum. It just arrives in my account already converted. They do, however, charge me £12 to pay in Niteflirt cheques in USD.
Classy_Katy
03-11-2018, 11:22 AM
Age verification is being delayed - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/25m-for-5g-projects-on-the-anniversary-of-the-uks-digital-strategy
Our priority is to make the internet safer for children and we believe this is best achieved by taking time to get the implementation of the policy right. We will therefore allow time for the BBFC as regulator to undertake a public consultation on its draft guidance which will be launched later this month.
For the public and the industry to prepare for and comply with age verification, the Government will also ensure a period of up to three months after the BBFC guidance has been cleared by Parliament before the law comes into force. It is anticipated age verification will be enforceable by the end of the year.
graciejames
03-11-2018, 12:08 PM
Age verification is being delayed - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/25m-for-5g-projects-on-the-anniversary-of-the-uks-digital-strategy
It is anticipated age verification will be enforceable by the end of the year.
Even though there's a lot of me that's anxious about this coming in, worried it'll reduce traffic blah blah.. I am SO relieved it's being rolled out later rather than next month! Phew!
CatBBW
03-11-2018, 07:34 PM
FACE PICS IN PRIVATE GALLERY...Heads-up...
Just noticed that any RECENT (I don't know exactly when this started) Private Gallery pics where someone is showing their face, is now marked "FP". So if you are clothed (Non-nude/NN) but showing face, it would be marked (hopefully, if you get an AW moderator who can see properly): NN FP
winnipeg
03-12-2018, 03:07 AM
FACE PICS IN PRIVATE GALLERY...Heads-up...
Just noticed that any RECENT (I don't know exactly when this started) Private Gallery pics where someone is showing their face, is now marked "FP". So if you are clothed (Non-nude/NN) but showing face, it would be marked (hopefully, if you get an AW moderator who can see properly): NN FP
Have they updated these manually? :O
CatBBW
03-12-2018, 03:15 AM
Have they updated these manually? :O
I *think* it's the same as "Non-Nude" - as you upload, they review and assign "NN" and/or "FP" to the pics.
(Depending on how blind the AW person is, of course, cos I have bare pussy tagged "NN" and belly pics in jeans not tagged at all! Not tested the face pics tag myself yet...)
PixiieGirl
03-12-2018, 10:15 AM
Heads up to uk girls - digital economy bill has been delayed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43370999
Kristen_Krystal
03-12-2018, 10:35 AM
Kristen, I seem to have been able to change my 2 UK bank accounts Santander and Nationwide to accept EFT via Paxum! (i.e., I fiddled a bit and its now showing as 'Available' for EFT)..... However should I also phone those banks to find out if they charge a currency conversion rate before transferring any funds into them?
Also just in case those banks DO charge currency conv rates do you mind me enquiring what Bank you are with that DOESN'T charge Euro conversion rates. You can PM if you prefer not to say on the board, its just that I do have other bank accounts with different UK High Street Banks but I just haven't linked them to my Paxum, however if they don't charge the Euro con rates then it might be worth me linking them to my Paxum if you follow.
I use Santander & they don't currently add any charges to receive Euro just their exchange rate. I messaged them at the time Paxum changed it to Euro only and Santander said they don't charge but they could in the future but yes, all banks will have their own conversion rates but I think Santander's is the most competitive at the moment
Its crazy because we now have to pay to have it converted twice. I think Paxum will still Wire in £ its just expensive at $50 a time.
They've also reduced some of their card fee's if you pay for stuff with it in shops so that might be worth you looking into. I don't have a card myself but there is a Paxum thread in industry insight which someone mentioned about the card.
Kristen_Krystal
03-12-2018, 10:47 AM
Yes - I've noticed if I don't describe my picture a topless then it gets a NN so it might be the same with face. You have to describe as a face picture to get the FP.
It must apply to new pictures I've got a lot of face pictures and I've described them as face pictures but I've not got the FP on them.
Kristen_Krystal
03-12-2018, 10:56 AM
I think I did once put my gallery up to about 11 credits but it didn't sell. It sells quite well at the rate its at now and even better when I update it regular. I never show anything more than boobs in mine though so its not to big a deal when they down load them but yes I know they do because I have one guy tell me he does.
Years ago I also had one strange guy that told me he had mine another ladies pictures all over his bedroom wall & another time I turned on an escort job to find one of my pictures he'd took as his screen saver! It was a terrible picture too - I don't what was worse that he'd used a picture that I hated or he'd used it as screen saver. So, I'm careful of what I put out there now :)
fetishqueen
03-12-2018, 11:04 AM
I think I did once put my gallery up to about 11 credits but it didn't sell. It sells quite well at the rate its at now and even better when I update it regular. I never show anything more than boobs in mine though so its not to big a deal when they down load them but yes I know they do because I have one guy tell me he does.
Years ago I also had one strange guy that told me he had mine another ladies pictures all over his bedroom wall & another time I turned on an escort job to find one of my pictures he'd took as his screen saver! It was a terrible picture too - I don't what was worse that he'd used a picture that I hated or he'd used it as screen saver. So, I'm careful of what I put out there now :)
Lol I have been on cam with guys that have connected me up to their 60 inch TV screens...no amount of makeup is enough for that!!!
Kristen_Krystal
03-12-2018, 03:08 PM
I always assumed that every customer was already age verified on AdultWork otherwise they wouldn't be able to buy credits? It might reduce some of the free chat lurkers that never buy any credits anyway. Proper regulation might stomp out some of these extreme taboo people that seem to think they're on the dark web.
I'm not worrying about it - I can't see it reducing paying customers at all.
fetishqueen
03-12-2018, 03:29 PM
I always assumed that every customer was already age verified on AdultWork otherwise they wouldn't be able to buy credits? It might reduce some of the free chat lurkers that never buy any credits anyway. Proper regulation might stomp out some of these extreme taboo people that seem to think they're on the dark web.
I'm not worrying about it - I can't see it reducing paying customers at all.
I think it's possible to buy credits with vouchers you buy at the post office with cash? That may not be exactly accurate but I'm sure there are ways to buy credits with cash with no trail, so those people can't be age verified I guess. Also I think you can get a debit card at 16? So really only those buying with a credit card would be age verified and even some of those won't have supplied the info they will actually need.
There's no point worrying. Can't do anything about it!
Classy_Katy
03-12-2018, 03:31 PM
The issue with age verification is that at the moment anyone can see nudity before signing up to be a member, which is why AW have started to make changes. There are huge privacy and potential fraud issues to make people sign up with a credit card or their passport in order to access a site, which may even be a dummy site just to get their details.
Kristen_Krystal
03-12-2018, 05:19 PM
The issue with age verification is that at the moment anyone can see nudity before signing up to be a member, which is why AW have started to make changes. There are huge privacy and potential fraud issues to make people sign up with a credit card or their passport in order to access a site, which may even be a dummy site just to get their details.
I get what your saying & I'm all for preventing minors seeing nudity. I never really gave it much thought but I'd hate to think I'd been chatting to a minor at all in IM when I do the free chat & certainly wouldn't want one watching me in my underwear on Free chat cam but, in order to age verify they can do it by phone they don't need to show a passport do they? They're going to have to have a card on file if they want to spend any money - those paranoid about privacy & fraud are probably never going to register in any event & so they'll never spend any money on the site.
I think the peoples it's going to most effect is the freeloaders & the minors that shouldn't be there looking anyway. I wonder if these token sites in other countries will follow suit. I think if you're on a token site & you're British or live in UK its probably a good idea to block the UK to be on the safe side if not already done so.
Classy_Katy
03-12-2018, 11:55 PM
There are some threads dedicated to the changes being made with Age Verification and the Video On Demand/banning certain sexual acts. The cons have been highlighted by those who oppose the changes...I follow some on Twitter.
There are implications for us too, using sites that do not use AV...we'd have to use a VPN and may not be able to get paid into our bank accounts. Men could use a VPN to access non AV sites but find they can't use their cards. AW still have changes to make. How much it affects our business remains to be seen.
graciejames
03-13-2018, 01:34 AM
So do I have this right..
UK guys accessing AW will have to age-verify, does this only apply to 'UK' sites like AW? I know AW is technically hosted elsewhere, confusingly lol. But say you're a cam client in the UK, will you be asked to verify for AW, but still be able to access US cam sites with no issue, e.g move to chatting to girls on MFC or something instead? (V different site I know, but just for comparison sake)
If they have to age-verify regardless of which camsite they're using, then I have full faith that majority of guys will do it. But my worry lies in whether it's one rule for AW and another rule for all the other camsites. Sorry, veering a bit off topic x
Classy_Katy
03-13-2018, 02:52 AM
So do I have this right..
UK guys accessing AW will have to age-verify, does this only apply to 'UK' sites like AW? I know AW is technically hosted elsewhere, confusingly lol. But say you're a cam client in the UK, will you be asked to verify for AW, but still be able to access US cam sites with no issue, e.g move to chatting to girls on MFC or something instead? (V different site I know, but just for comparison sake)
If they have to age-verify regardless of which camsite they're using, then I have full faith that majority of guys will do it. But my worry lies in whether it's one rule for AW and another rule for all the other camsites. Sorry, veering a bit off topic x
Access to camsites that don't AV would be blocked...that means sites anywhere in the world, the UK sites would be fined, AW states in it's terms that it is subject to the Law of England and Wales.
So guys and us, would have to use a VPN to access sites that do not comply and have been blocked to UK ISPs. Guys won't be able to use their cards to purchase from blocked sites and we may have trouble receiving money into our bank accounts from them.
winnipeg
03-13-2018, 03:35 AM
The issue with age verification is that at the moment anyone can see nudity before signing up to be a member, which is why AW have started to make changes. There are huge privacy and potential fraud issues to make people sign up with a credit card or their passport in order to access a site, which may even be a dummy site just to get their details.
I think this is more about censorship than the protection of minors. How can they possibly ensure a 17 year old for example has not borrowed an 18 year old friends passport or credit card?
Kristen_Krystal
03-15-2018, 11:12 AM
I would imagine if the UK started blocking foreign sites that won't comply then someone else will just fill that gap in the market instead.
Any new legislation that make free porn difficult to access has surely got to be a good thing for us who want to make a living out of selling it.
Those who oppose it argue that it will drive people onto the dark web & it breaches human rights - rubbish - no-body has the right to see porn for free! The argue that kids shouldn't be prevented from seeing boobies! If it was only boobs the censorship wouldn't be happening - There's some pretty extreme stuff on Porn Hub & its all easily accessible for free & by anyone.
We all complain about how entitled our customers have become & now them days are coming to an end.
My only concern with this censorship is where does it stop. Are the government going to turn their attention to what people can read because if thats going to be the case then certain punting forums may come under the firing line & as they provide AW with most of its traffic then, that would be a big problem for us but that's just worrying about what could happen & that could take years.
winnipeg
03-16-2018, 02:29 AM
I would imagine if the UK started blocking foreign sites that won't comply then someone else will just fill that gap in the market instead.
Any new legislation that make free porn difficult to access has surely got to be a good thing for us who want to make a living out of selling it.
Those who oppose it argue that it will drive people onto the dark web & it breaches human rights - rubbish - no-body has the right to see porn for free! The argue that kids shouldn't be prevented from seeing boobies! If it was only boobs the censorship wouldn't be happening - There's some pretty extreme stuff on Porn Hub & its all easily accessible for free & by anyone.
We all complain about how entitled our customers have become & now them days are coming to an end.
My only concern with this censorship is where does it stop. Are the government going to turn their attention to what people can read because if thats going to be the case then certain punting forums may come under the firing line & as they provide AW with most of its traffic then, that would be a big problem for us but that's just worrying about what could happen & that could take years.
Why does nobody have the right to see porn for free? Porn is available for free right now and has been for years, that doesn't really affect our sales at all. Theres an array of "exteme" material out there, are we going to censor everything that someone may come across on the internet?
Blue-Velvet
03-16-2018, 07:39 AM
Because people like Fabian Thylmann (who owns PornHub and a slew of other tube sites) are profiting off of the physical labour of the women and men in the porn industry. When porn actors/actresses and producers create content with the intent of selling it for profit, only to have it pirated in its entirety on free tube sites, it seriously impacts their business. People are working 10 times as hard for considerably less than they used to make. It has a knock-on effect. It also nurtures a sense of entitlement in (mostly men, let's face it) when it comes to wank material. Tube sites offer gratification for free. Token sites offer gratification for free. I have no problem sexualising myself for profit as long as I'm the one who profits off of it. The people who make the material aren't doing it for fun, they're doing it because it's their job. When the market becomes saturated with free material, why should anyone pay us for our services? I'm sorry, but nobody can say that the industry hasn't been massively affected in the past decade by the advent of sites like PornHub. There's a podcast of about 6 episodes called The Butterfly Effect that discusses the knock-on effect that sites like PornHub have had on the industry and society in general without "othering" sex workers/porn professionals in the process.
winnipeg
03-16-2018, 09:58 AM
Because people like Fabian Thylmann (who owns PornHub and a slew of other tube sites) are profiting off of the physical labour of the women and men in the porn industry. When porn actors/actresses and producers create content with the intent of selling it for profit, only to have it pirated in its entirety on free tube sites, it seriously impacts their business. People are working 10 times as hard for considerably less than they used to make. It has a knock-on effect. It also nurtures a sense of entitlement in (mostly men, let's face it) when it comes to wank material. Tube sites offer gratification for free. Token sites offer gratification for free. I have no problem sexualising myself for profit as long as I'm the one who profits off of it. The people who make the material aren't doing it for fun, they're doing it because it's their job. When the market becomes saturated with free material, why should anyone pay us for our services? I'm sorry, but nobody can say that the industry hasn't been massively affected in the past decade by the advent of sites like PornHub. There's a podcast of about 6 episodes called The Butterfly Effect that discusses the knock-on effect that sites like PornHub have had on the industry and society in general without "othering" sex workers/porn professionals in the process.
I see your point but censorship and these new laws have very little to do with piracy, which is a completely separate issue. The government could censor swearing in rap, yet those songs would still be pirated. If those laws were brought in tomorrow, sites like pornhub would still exist? Afterall, Mindgeek the company who owns pornhub are the ones with the main technology for these age verifications.