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Blonde-Ambition
04-11-2018, 07:08 AM
does this affect the bank transfers for first choice at all? or literally just the card?
thank you
xx

Classy_Katy
04-11-2018, 07:28 AM
does this affect the bank transfers for first choice at all? or literally just the card?
thank you
xx

This is from the Firstchoice Pay thread in Industry Insight, Danep says

"Existing users of bank transfers from selected websites should continue to receive payments at the moment.
Funds that are already on the cards can be used, new payments will not be loaded, because we no longer have the infrastructure to do so. I am as surprised and shocked as you are, because no one on my end had any grace period to prepare for this as well."

I would check out the other threads on this subject on here as well.

I don't recommend Paytoo...they withheld my money for 3 months when they had problems.

sexysusie
04-11-2018, 07:58 AM
I use clubdailypay. They've just send out an email that payments from them are not and will not be effected and everyone will get paid like normal.

You can just use Skype like normal too. Maybe they'll add some text recognisation on words like "cock" or whatever, but they can't monitor video chats.
IF they did, they'd have to do it manually. Only imagine the amount of applications that job opening would get..

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Thanks for the info re skype, i am thinking that is the case.

However i would NEVER use a group that isnt either the original daily pay (adultworks finest performers) or KDB's porn central. They are not trustworthy. Besides which groups are only middle men, if a payment service is affected, the group is too.

@ blue velvet that is sounding suspiciously like paxum is headed the same way!

Classy_Katy
04-11-2018, 08:07 AM
This is interesting about skype and discord http://boleynmodels.com/blog/discord-the-new-skype-alternative-for-cammodels/

sexysusie
04-11-2018, 08:10 AM
Yep and i just saw on another thread discord have confirmed it's ok to use them for shows. How long that will be the case though i don't know? Personally just gonna keep offering skype. I doubt anything will happen.

Blue-Velvet
04-11-2018, 10:03 AM
From Paxum's facebook account...(I've never used their card, I just transfer straight into my bank account, so I shouldn't be affected)

Paxum Inc would like to address any concern our clients may feel after the recent news regarding Choice Bank Limited. On April 9th 2018 Choice Bank Limited informed its customers that it has been forced into a constrained position by the regulatory authorities.

Paxum would like to reassure our customers that this is an issue between Choice Bank and its regulatory authorities directly, and it is completely unrelated to Paxum. Paxum is just a customer of Choice Bank.

As a result of the news from Choice Bank we regret to inform you that Paxum cards can no longer be loaded via transfer to card. However it is important to note that any funds that currently exist on any Paxum card issued by Choice Bank are fully available and can be used as normal at the ATM and for POS purchases.

We are grateful that only a small portion of Paxum users are affected by Choice Banks situation, as it only relates to the Paxum issued card. All other aspects of Paxum services are operating normally, and regular service is uninterrupted. We apologize for this inconvenience caused to Paxum card-holders by Choice Bank, and we are working hard to promptly implement our new card solution.

As part of our commitment to providing a reliable payment service, and as a result of lengthy card issuing delays through Choice Bank over the last few months, Paxum had already been exploring alternative card issuing options and we have finalized a backup card. New cards are currently being printed. There will be no additional cost to the user for the new card, and we should have everything completed within 4 weeks. We will update clients as soon as the new cards have been shipped and implemented.

In the beginning of March 2018 Choice Bank experienced problems loading funds to cards and at that time Paxum pro-actively introduced Instant Withdrawal to External Credit/Debit card as an additional instant withdrawal option. Many clients have tried this option, and we recommend it for any Paxum client seeking instant access to their account funds while a replacement Paxum card is being implemented. Please note, some restrictions do apply.

Paxum payment solution has always been more than just a card, which is why problems that our card issuer Choice Bank is experiencing will not cause any long-term damage to Paxum's ability to provide consistent secure global payment services.

Paxum offers multiple withdrawal options (Wire, EFT/ACH, External Credit/Debit Card, and Transfer to Other Accounts), instant payments worldwide, and we still offer instant withdrawal. Paxum cards will be back very soon, and we look forward to continuing to serve our clients payment needs in the meantime.

LolaLu
04-11-2018, 02:36 PM
Yep and i just saw on another thread discord have confirmed it's ok to use them for shows. How long that will be the case though i don't know? Personally just gonna keep offering skype. I doubt anything will happen.

They have a NSFW tag on some of their channels but they have confirmed it is NOT ok to use their service for sexually explicit and pornographic reasons.

PixiieGirl
04-11-2018, 02:47 PM
They have a NSFW tag on some of their channels but they have confirmed it is NOT ok to use their service for sexually explicit and pornographic reasons.

They’ve both said it’s ok and it’s not so who actually knows??

Classy_Katy
04-12-2018, 01:09 AM
They have a NSFW tag on some of their channels but they have confirmed it is NOT ok to use their service for sexually explicit and pornographic reasons.

It is ok to use Discord...check out the thread on the subject, they're being cautious but it is ok.

LolaLu
04-12-2018, 11:00 AM
So annoyed at myself. I have had a regular who has had loads of shows with me before and he usually books 20mins then another 20mins and sometimes another. This time, he booked 20 mins then I said about rebooking and he said 'Oh I was going to pay after' every bone in my body told me to get the money but I thought, he's a good regular, he wont do me over......did I get the money?? Did i fuck! Thats the 2nd regular to do this - the 1st came crawling back and I have refused to do a show until he pays what he ripped me off for. I wish I wasnt so nice! Im so pissed! £60!!!!

tropo
04-12-2018, 11:31 AM
Because people like Fabian Thylmann (who owns PornHub and a slew of other tube sites) are profiting off of the physical labour of the women and men in the porn industry. When porn actors/actresses and producers create content with the intent of selling it for profit, only to have it pirated in its entirety on free tube sites, it seriously impacts their business. People are working 10 times as hard for considerably less than they used to make. It has a knock-on effect. It also nurtures a sense of entitlement in (mostly men, let's face it) when it comes to wank material. Tube sites offer gratification for free. Token sites offer gratification for free. I have no problem sexualising myself for profit as long as I'm the one who profits off of it. The people who make the material aren't doing it for fun, they're doing it because it's their job. When the market becomes saturated with free material, why should anyone pay us for our services? I'm sorry, but nobody can say that the industry hasn't been massively affected in the past decade by the advent of sites like PornHub. There's a podcast of about 6 episodes called The Butterfly Effect that discusses the knock-on effect that sites like PornHub have had on the industry and society in general without "othering" sex workers/porn professionals in the process.

I agree with everything you said. I started 12 years ago. It was really easy to make money then. 3 things have impacted cam earnings over this time:

1. The amount of free porn available.
2. Free cam sites - mainly MFC and then CB.
3. Market saturation and competition, driving the price of private time down.

On some sites I'm charging the same as I did 12 years ago, but everyone complains about my price, which is double what most girls charge now. Taking into consideration inflation over 12 years, I'm charging far less, but still double the others. Now I have to be very patient to get privates, whereas in the old days it was one after the other - never stopped all night.

LolaLu
04-12-2018, 11:36 AM
I wish I did this job way back then. I used to do free webcam chat in Yahoo chatrooms and loved it - If only I knew webcamming was a thing my life would be totally different

tropo
04-12-2018, 12:48 PM
I wish I did this job way back then. I used to do free webcam chat in Yahoo chatrooms and loved it - If only I knew webcamming was a thing my life would be totally different

I wish I had appreciated it more back then. By comparison to now it was a dream job. You could pop on any time you liked and make bank. I noticed a very big drop off in business near the end of 2016. 2014 - 2015 was good too. I worked 5 sites, so it wasn't just the one that went bad - they all seemed to go bad at the same time, AW included. I think the introduction of the VAT made a big difference to AW.

LolaLu
04-12-2018, 01:37 PM
I think you're right there. :-(

Blue-Velvet
04-15-2018, 07:41 AM
FYI, I just saw on Paxum's facebook page that they've secured a new card company and are in the process of printing new cards now. If anyone still has funds left on their old Choice Bank cards, you can still withdraw from an ATM or use it in a shop, but you'll have to wait for the new cards to load new funds. They said they should be with people in about 4 weeks. Old card holders won't be charged a fee for reissuing new cards. I don't use their card, but if anyone here does, there you go. I wonder if Payoneer/Firstchoice will do something similar and switch card companies.

tropo
04-15-2018, 08:25 AM
FYI, I just saw on Paxum's facebook page that they've secured a new card company and are in the process of printing new cards now. If anyone still has funds left on their old Choice Bank cards, you can still withdraw from an ATM or use it in a shop, but you'll have to wait for the new cards to load new funds. They said they should be with people in about 4 weeks. Old card holders won't be charged a fee for reissuing new cards. I don't use their card, but if anyone here does, there you go. I wonder if Payoneer/Firstchoice will do something similar and switch card companies.

It seems like you're getting Firstchoice and Paxum confused. You won't be doing anything with Firstchoice cards once you've withdrawn your money. You can throw it away as they are out of the business for good. Only Paxum is going forward by issuing new cards.

KatyBoleyn
04-15-2018, 08:44 AM
It seems like you're getting Firstchoice and Paxum confused. You won't be doing anything with Firstchoice cards once you've withdrawn your money. You can throw it away as they are out of the business for good. Only Paxum is going forward by issuing new cards.

Payoneer has found or started no less than 2 new companies in the last week to take the place of FirstChoice, and sent applications for them to previous FirstChoice business partners.

The longer they take though, the more business keeps getting transferred completely out. We're at about 98% of our models now that are signed over to different payment methods.

There's only a tiny few countries with a handful of models we can't reach, but we're working on a solution for those as well - and wire transfers monthly are always an option so they will get paid.

tropo
04-15-2018, 11:07 AM
Payoneer has found or started no less than 2 new companies in the last week to take the place of FirstChoice, and sent applications for them to previous FirstChoice business partners.

The longer they take though, the more business keeps getting transferred completely out. We're at about 98% of our models now that are signed over to different payment methods.

There's only a tiny few countries with a handful of models we can't reach, but we're working on a solution for those as well - and wire transfers monthly are always an option so they will get paid.

I don't know where you got your information, but this is what I got, which comes across to me as a eulogy. I stopped dealing with Payoneer when they converted me to Firstchoice.

With regret, we are writing to inform you that Firstchoice Pay is not receiving or processing any further payments, effective immediately.

Please be aware that you are not able to receive any new payments through Firstchoice Pay. We trust that the companies that pay you will be offering a new way for you to receive your payments. Please contact them directly for more information.

The balance on your card remains available for you to withdraw at ATMs or spend. Your transactions can be viewed and tracked through your account and we will continue to provide you with full customer support.

We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your business. We have greatly enjoyed serving many loyal customers and offer sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may cause.

Blue-Velvet
04-15-2018, 12:02 PM
I had Firstchoice cards, but never used them. Just had them as backup. I've always used Paxum, but never applied for their card. I just use them for EFT transfers. It's always something with payment processors in this industry.

sexysusie
04-15-2018, 10:50 PM
So annoyed at myself. I have had a regular who has had loads of shows with me before and he usually books 20mins then another 20mins and sometimes another. This time, he booked 20 mins then I said about rebooking and he said 'Oh I was going to pay after' every bone in my body told me to get the money but I thought, he's a good regular, he wont do me over......did I get the money?? Did i fuck! Thats the 2nd regular to do this - the 1st came crawling back and I have refused to do a show until he pays what he ripped me off for. I wish I wasnt so nice! Im so pissed! £60!!!!

What a total scumbag. I'm sorry that happened Lola :( He will get his!

LolaLu
04-16-2018, 04:00 AM
How are you doing on NF susie?

ROSIECAM
04-16-2018, 11:12 AM
Hi sexysusie what sites do you go on to make quike money as you said......as Adultwork has dropped of for me

Thank you

tropo
04-16-2018, 12:03 PM
Hi sexysusie what sites do you go on to make quike money as you said......as Adultwork has dropped of for me

Thank you

I work on 4 sites and no site is "quick money". If I worked on only 1 site I'd either go broke or die of boredom waiting for privates. They have all dropped off. AW is out for me, but only because my country has blocked access to the server.

SylvySinclair
04-16-2018, 01:59 PM
Aw has been crickets for me for the past months, Im giving up on camming there as i have other skype sites giving me great money and only leave IM open. If i can get some there good, if not, ok too. I am even happy as my main income last year was AW and i had to be on cam all the time, with skype i have more freedom and i am happy with it.

LaceyCummings
04-16-2018, 07:01 PM
So there is currently absolutely no way for US residents to get money from Adultwork, is there?
I have a lot of money there that I apparently can't touch.

Does anyone know if there are any daily pay services for Adultwork for US residents?

I can't believe how bad things have gotten. I'm a wreck.

GeezLouise
04-17-2018, 01:47 AM
Clubdailypay seems to pay girls in the US on aw.

Magical_Hoohah
04-17-2018, 06:18 AM
As an American with limited ways to get money off this site, I was going to try to build up 150 credits and then do a bank transfer to a transferwise account. Since that's a pain in the ass, I was going to drop the site once I got my money. But I woke up to this email from AW. I'm kind of sad, especially since there now seems to be no way for me to get the credits I have on the account...


Dear Member

It is with regret that we have to inform you that we will no longer be able to support your membership of AdultWork.com. No doubt you will be up to speed with the news regarding SESTA and FOSTA.

The legal advice we have received is that until such time as the position is clearer, we are to suspend all advertisements on AdultWork.com, regardless of what services are actually being advertised.

Clearly this situation has wide reaching implications and is far from ideal for all concerned. We are sorry we cannot take a more robust stance in this matter as is usually 'our way'.

We would like to thank you for your custom and loyalty and wish you every success with your endeavours henceforth.

Regards

The AdultWork.com Team
I assume this only applies to American models, not to the entire site?

Classy_Katy
04-17-2018, 06:38 AM
Oh wow! SESTA and FOSTA are American laws just applying to American citizens/residents...as Adultwork can see our nationality, they can filter on that basis, unlike Skype that is just stopping all porn. If AW are doing that, how about Streatmate and MFC etc?!

I just found this as I know nothing about those laws - https://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2018/04/02/the-impact-of-fosta-sesta-on-online-sex-work-communities/

PixiieGirl
04-17-2018, 06:43 AM
I've not had an email so I guess it's just american models?

KatyBoleyn
04-17-2018, 07:08 AM
Oh wow! SESTA and FOSTA are American laws just applying to American citizens/residents...as Adultwork can see our nationality, they can filter on that basis, unlike Skype that is just stopping all porn. If AW are doing that, how about Streatmate and MFC etc?!

I just found this as I know nothing about those laws - https://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2018/04/02/the-impact-of-fosta-sesta-on-online-sex-work-communities/

They've had major prejudice against American models forever. Forcing them under Sweetkick because they were "untrustworthy" was our final straw in dealing with AW. This is a major over-reaction to the FOSTA/SESTA thing. They also seem to be completely unable to separate "camming" from "escorting", in concept, on their site...something we always found puzzling.

This is a major over-reaction at best, or an excuse to finally get rid of Americans at worst. US-based adult sites, using some common sense rules (see Streamate's updated TOS, for example), can operate just fine under the new laws.

LaceyCummings
04-17-2018, 07:16 AM
I had $800 in credits on AW. I am devastated

MadamDragon
04-17-2018, 07:16 AM
Oh wow! SESTA and FOSTA are American laws just applying to American citizens/residents...as Adultwork can see our nationality, they can filter on that basis, unlike Skype that is just stopping all porn. If AW are doing that, how about Streatmate and MFC etc?!

I just found this as I know nothing about those laws - https://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2018/04/02/the-impact-of-fosta-sesta-on-online-sex-work-communities/

I got the Adultwork expulsion email this morning and I'm CANADIAN and I signed up with a Canadian passport.
I think it may be because I was using a US location (for security as I don't like to give away my real location). So in a bit of a mini panic now as AW is my second site.

Classy_Katy
04-17-2018, 07:24 AM
I got the Adultwork expulsion email this morning and I'm CANADIAN and I signed up with a Canadian passport.
I think it may be because I was using a US location (for security as I don't like to give away my real location). So in a bit of a mini panic now as AW is my second site.

Wow! Can you start using your real location now then tell them you've moved? You may be able to choose somewhere different within Canada...in the UK we can choose which town/city we want to be in.

MadamDragon
04-17-2018, 07:36 AM
Wow! Can you start using your real location now then tell them you've moved? You may be able to choose somewhere different within Canada...in the UK we can choose which town/city we want to be in.

I just tried to change the region and was told by the system that I cannot do so because I was originally verified in another country.
AND it looks like I can't process funds owing to me... Bugger! what a mess. Now onto trying to find someone in support at AW...

Magical_Hoohah
04-17-2018, 07:40 AM
I had $800 in credits on AW. I am devastated

To be clear, I can still access my account and theoretically would be able to get the money out. My problem is that I don't have enough credits earned to use the only available payout option. Since I can't earn any more credits at this point, it appears that they're stuck. Since you have so many credits saved up, you should be able to get yours cashed out.

LaceyCummings
04-17-2018, 08:04 AM
I can access my account too, but there is no method of withdrawal for US residents.
Is there a way that I don't know about?

LaceyCummings
04-17-2018, 08:05 AM
To be clear, I can still access my account and theoretically would be able to get the money out. My problem is that I don't have enough credits earned to use the only available payout option. Since I can't earn any more credits at this point, it appears that they're stuck. Since you have so many credits saved up, you should be able to get yours cashed out.

What payout option?

tropo
04-17-2018, 08:12 AM
To be clear, I can still access my account and theoretically would be able to get the money out. My problem is that I don't have enough credits earned to use the only available payout option. Since I can't earn any more credits at this point, it appears that they're stuck. Since you have so many credits saved up, you should be able to get yours cashed out.

Can't you just sign up with Paxum. I always had my AW credits sent to my Paxum account. There was a GBP 50 minimum. It would cost $30 to have $800 transfered to a credit or debit card. Signup would be slow at the moment, so you'd need to be patient.

Kristen_Krystal
04-17-2018, 08:17 AM
I found this on the Adult Work Forum & might help some of you US Ladies. http://www.dailypayservice.com/main/index.php?option=com_breezingforms&ff_form=54&ff_page=1

LaceyCummings
04-17-2018, 08:24 AM
I found this on the Adult Work Forum & might help some of you US Ladies. http://www.dailypayservice.com/main/index.php?option=com_breezingforms&ff_form=54&ff_page=1

Wow thank you so much for posting this! Do you know if this is for any American Adultwork member or if it is only for daily pay members?

Kristen_Krystal
04-17-2018, 08:34 AM
Wow thank you so much for posting this! Do you know if this is for any American Adultwork member or if it is only for daily pay members?

It reads to me like it's open to all US AdultWork Members.

Edit: Yes, it's saying on the form that you don't need to be a Daily Pay member. It's just a one off payment so you can get paid.

Magical_Hoohah
04-17-2018, 08:48 AM
I can access my account too, but there is no method of withdrawal for US residents.
Is there a way that I don't know about?
I think if you look into transferwise, it should work for you. It would allow you to have a UK and EU bank account number where AW could deposit your funds, then you can transfer it to your real US bank account. It's the only way I know of for a US lady to get money from AW.


Can't you just sign up with Paxum. I always had my AW credits sent to my Paxum account. There was a GBP 50 minimum. It would cost $30 to have $800 transfered to a credit or debit card. Signup would be slow at the moment, so you'd need to be patient.
Paxum no longer works with those of us in the US.

SylvySinclair
04-17-2018, 08:53 AM
AW wont allow the use of VPN to change your country log in, if you are found to be using it, you will be banned and no credits will be paid. I didnt get any emails from aw, so i assume that is just for americans. But something is off, i was ready to leave the site for good and logged in, just to feel and be ready to qut for good and suddenly booom, my room got busy as heck and i dont know if that has anything to do with less girls online (americans). Could be, or not....i dont know. For sure this is outrageous that they wont let americans get their money and this is absurd.

Magical_Hoohah
04-17-2018, 08:54 AM
I found this on the Adult Work Forum & might help some of you US Ladies. http://www.dailypayservice.com/main/index.php?option=com_breezingforms&ff_form=54&ff_page=1

Oh, just saw this after my other reply. Is this a reputable service? Is this officially approved by AdultWork? I ask because that is a lot of info to give out without knowing who is getting it.

PixiieGirl
04-17-2018, 08:57 AM
Oh, just saw this after my other reply. Is this a reputable service? Is this officially approved by AdultWork? I ask because that is a lot of info to give out without knowing who is getting it.
they're a legit daily pay studio - I'm with them for AW

Kristen_Krystal
04-17-2018, 09:09 AM
@ Magical. There is also a link on that form that links to the Adult Work Daily Pay Forums - so you can check it out.

I'm not a member of any groups on AW but if I wanted Daily Pay & I had to choose one - I'd choose that one. It's AW biggest & most popular DP group. I'm sure that others will come along and vouch for them along with Pixi.

Classy_Katy
04-17-2018, 10:03 AM
Oh, just saw this after my other reply. Is this a reputable service? Is this officially approved by AdultWork? I ask because that is a lot of info to give out without knowing who is getting it.

and it's not just the info that's being given out...they would have complete control of your profile.

Kristen_Krystal
04-17-2018, 10:22 AM
and it's not just the info that's being given out...they would have complete control of your profile.It

Those Ladies based in the US are not going to be needing their AW profiles after today @Katy - They just need to access their monies right now. Adult Work Finest Performers does seem like a very popular group & right now there doesn't seem to be much other options for them to get paid.

A Paxum Business account might be another option for them.

PixiieGirl
04-17-2018, 10:27 AM
they have theoretic control of my account but nothings ever been done to my profile other than getting paid/having the credits sent to their account - it's up to people to make the decision ultimately but like I say I've been with Colin's DP group on AW and C4S since I started and never had any troubles

I'm sure others in the group will post their experiences to :)

Classy_Katy
04-17-2018, 10:39 AM
they have theoretic control of my account but nothings ever been done to my profile other than getting paid/having the credits sent to their account - it's up to people to make the decision ultimately but like I say I've been with Colin's DP group on AW and C4S since I started and never had any troubles

I'm sure others in the group will post their experiences to :)

That is the only daily pay group to join...I was really speaking generally, we do have to be very cautious about joining groups.