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tropo
05-14-2018, 08:14 AM
It's great that you have found what works for you.

But I do agree with Susie regarding low pricing. I don't agree with low pricing adult services. We are not a NEED we are a want and a luxury. When other models run the prices into the ground that creatives a negative and entitle attitude in the men.
Jeez, men get porn for free as it is.

Of course, pricing is a personal choice but crazy low prices are detrimental to the industry and other models.
As my only source of income for 12 years, I don’t have the luxury of taking a moral stand on pricing issues and what other girls think we should be getting. My price point is based on only one thing - making as much as I can. What counts is my total income, not my minute charge. That’s exactly were it is currently set. All things considered, in my category, I charge more than most.

tropo
05-14-2018, 08:16 AM
Im sincerely sorry you read it that way. The tools and approaches that have worked for me, work for anyone, because they're basic psychological principles and sales and marketing techniques. Theres no mystery or 'luck'.

I think it's silly to leave money on the table, so excuse me when i point that out. Maybe you've been at this a long time, but you clearly haven't watched other successful models very closely.

You might have an attitude of 'i'll make whatever i can', and that's fine. I'm glad you're happy with that. You do you. In the meantime i'll go right on explaining why it's better to aim high and why it works... cause i like to see other women rocking it and not just getting by.. ok!?

Now move the fuck on!
I’ll "move the fuck on" right after you do... or will you always need to have the last word? Perhaps your attitude is not quite up to par with your amazing, drop-dead looks?

You have no idea what I'm happy with or how much I make. All I hear from you is how amazing you are and that you make "high and higher" earnings. Care to elaborate?

sexysusie
05-14-2018, 08:18 AM
Deleted my own message :/


Maybe you are a "Goddess that men flock to and worship at their feet". For the rest of us mere mortals.

Im sincerely sorry you read it that way. The tools and approaches that have worked for me, work for anyone, because they're basic psychological principles and sales and marketing techniques. Theres no mystery or 'luck'.

I think it's silly to leave money on the table, so excuse me when i point that out. Maybe you've been at this a long time, but you clearly haven't watched other successful models very closely.

You might have an attitude of 'i'll make whatever i can', and that's fine. I'm glad you're happy with that. You do you. In the meantime i'll go right on explaining why it's better to aim high and why it works... cause i like to see other women rocking it and not just getting by.. ok!?

Now move the fuck on!

sexysusie
05-14-2018, 08:19 AM
We are not a NEED we are a want and a luxury.

Abso-fricken-lutely!

SexyKim
05-14-2018, 10:05 AM
It's really about how much you earn in a days work not about how high your rates are these days. The most important factor is to me is what goes straight into my bank account!!

Sometimes I have been cheaper on AW and it has worked very well, built up regulars that stay on for hours with me and I don't even need to do anything sexual!! And most weeks I have made over a thousand credits after aw cut I would come out with £700 for the week!! So changing prices from high to low works well for me. If people are worried over other webcam girls charging low then that is their problem, staying at high prices may look good but doesn't mean you are making a fortune!

SexyKim
05-14-2018, 10:08 AM
Abso-fricken-lutely!

Susie, I thought your "other work" was replacing your webcam work? as you said in your last post you don't even need to webcam anymore?? as it has replaced it completely? I am confused. Do you do it for a bit on the side? x

scarletl
05-14-2018, 10:34 AM
I think it depends what you do aswell. I don't do vanilla, I am a domme & most my clientele is men into findom.
I charged less previously and earnt less & worked harder. Now I charge higher, earn more and work less.

Also I think it depends what kind of thing your into. Some love long shows for hours, I personally can't think of anything worse. I prefer guys to come along and have their 10-20 minutes with me and go. Because of that, I would need a hella lot of guys to make my daily goal.

SylvySinclair
05-14-2018, 01:20 PM
I also hate long shows, i dont even sell them anymore. It gets me so bored even though Im making more money. I will rather have 10 shows of 20 mins than 5 of an hour. lol

fetishqueen
05-14-2018, 01:25 PM
Oh so much to talk about!


It's great that you have found what works for you.

But I do agree with Susie regarding low pricing. I don't agree with low pricing adult services. We are not a NEED we are a want and a luxury. When other models run the prices into the ground that creatives a negative and entitle attitude in the men.
Jeez, men get porn for free as it is.

Of course, pricing is a personal choice but crazy low prices are detrimental to the industry and other models.

If that were true, we would all only be able to charge the minimum. Clearly lots of models charging low is not having that effect because some of you are super successful charging high!


As my only source of income for 12 years, I don’t have the luxury of taking a moral stand on pricing issues and what other girls think we should be getting. My price point is based on only one thing - making as much as I can. What counts is my total income, not my minute charge. That’s exactly were it is currently set. All things considered, in my category, I charge more than most.

Yes. The amount in my bank account is all I care about.


It's really about how much you earn in a days work not about how high your rates are these days. The most important factor is to me is what goes straight into my bank account!!

Sometimes I have been cheaper on AW and it has worked very well, built up regulars that stay on for hours with me and I don't even need to do anything sexual!! And most weeks I have made over a thousand credits after aw cut I would come out with £700 for the week!! So changing prices from high to low works well for me. If people are worried over other webcam girls charging low then that is their problem, staying at high prices may look good but doesn't mean you are making a fortune!

Same again.


I think it depends what you do aswell. I don't do vanilla, I am a domme & most my clientele is men into findom.
I charged less previously and earnt less & worked harder. Now I charge higher, earn more and work less.

Also I think it depends what kind of thing your into. Some love long shows for hours, I personally can't think of anything worse. I prefer guys to come along and have their 10-20 minutes with me and go. Because of that, I would need a hella lot of guys to make my daily goal.

If findom is your speciality and you are successful at that then of course high prices are what's going to work. I'd dearly love to crack the findom market. Maybe I need to do more research.

In essence we should charge what the fuck we want. And anyone complaining about how cheap prices are ruining the industry in one breath, then going on to say how they rake in the cash charging high, well I don't quite understand your issue? If you USED to charge high but now you can't because everyone else is now cheaper then I see a problem. But if you are charging high and looking down from your huge piles of money then good luck to you, you are doing well! If that was me I'd be too busy counting my money to moan about what other people are doing because I would be doing too well to care.

Maybe sell products on ebay and then you'll really experience a marketplace where cheapest is best. In this industry we should be thankful we are free to alter prices and services any time we like. :)

Fuck that was a long post :D

scarletl
05-14-2018, 01:37 PM
Maybe sell products on ebay and then you'll really experience a marketplace where cheapest is best. In this industry we should be thankful we are free to alter prices and services any time we like. :)

Fuck that was a long post :D

Interesting you say this, Amazon sellers have the same issue. You see majority of the sellers complaining about china selling for super low prices on UK Amazon and driving everything into the ground. The UK sellers cannot simply go that low without losing profits.

The reason I don't do vanilla anymore is because the guys expect it super cheap and their expectations are high. They want luxury steak dinner for £1. The main reason I have changed the way I work in this industry is so I can target people/fetishes where guys cannot get it good & cheap or free.
They have no choice but to pay high to fulfil their needs.

I'm not rich at all. I'm not looking down on anyone. I just feel if a model has experience she is worth more. New models charging low to grow their base, I understand and think we've all been there. But surely once you're experienced enough to give someone a great show that's worth decent money then charging them higher is a given.

I think SM is a great example, guys over there happily pay $7.99 a minute for a cam show, despite the model only getting 30%. They are willing to pay it.
So if they are willing to pay prices like that on SM, what is different to AW that makes them unwilling to pay higher?

fetishqueen
05-14-2018, 01:46 PM
Interesting you say this, Amazon sellers have the same issue. You see majority of the sellers complaining about china selling for super low prices on UK Amazon and driving everything into the ground. The UK sellers cannot simply go that low without losing profits.

The reason I don't do vanilla anymore is because the guys expect it super cheap and their expectations are high. They want luxury steak dinner for £1. The main reason I have changed the way I work in this industry is so I can target people/fetishes where guys cannot get it good & cheap or free.
They have no choice but to pay high to fulfil their needs.

I'm not rich at all. I'm not looking down on anyone. I just feel if a model has experience she is worth more. New models charging low to grow their base, I understand and think we've all been there. But surely once you're experienced enough to give someone a great show that's worth decent money then charging them higher is a given.

I think SM is a great example, guys over there happily pay $7.99 a minute for a cam show, despite the model only getting 30%. They are willing to pay it.
So if they are willing to pay prices like that on SM, what is different to AW that makes them unwilling to pay higher?

On AW I do other things including escorting so I'm not sure I can have a cam persona that's significantly different, it would be odd. My escort service is vanilla and offering kinky or fetish stuff on cam is going to give people the wrong signals, not something I want in a one to one meet.

But thinking out loud I could do it on another cam site I guess. I already do on a clip site and the things guys buy is unreal. I have diversified because I enjoy lots of different things and that suits me. Fair play to you too, you are doing what suits you too.

In answer to your last question, I wish I knew! I've never used SM. Can I ask though, are those prices for vanilla shows or fetish?

scarletl
05-14-2018, 01:55 PM
On AW I do other things including escorting so I'm not sure I can have a cam persona that's significantly different, it would be odd. My escort service is vanilla and offering kinky or fetish stuff on cam is going to give people the wrong signals, not something I want in a one to one meet.

But thinking out loud I could do it on another cam site I guess. I already do on a clip site and the things guys buy is unreal. I have diversified because I enjoy lots of different things and that suits me. Fair play to you too, you are doing what suits you too.

In answer to your last question, I wish I knew! I've never used SM. Can I ask though, are those prices for vanilla shows or fetish?

Those prices are vanilla shows which is high for vanilla IMO.
You mentioned about growing your findom persona. The issue when it comes to findom is that having a nude persona aswell kinda kills it (for me and many others it seems). It allows me to have the superior attitude towards them and deprive them of nudity as they are 'undeserving' there have been times I have shown my findom clients my boobs or pussy and even me cumming on video. I did however charge $300 to see tits, $700 to see pussy and made one guy tip $1000 to see me cum for 10 seconds on video.
(Which is CRAZY considering a year or two before that, I was on MFC selling 15 cum videos for $20 and boob flashes for $5)

Having the two personas doesn't cross over well, you kinda have to be this or that in order to really see the money. Escorting in your situation would turn into cash meets and fetish/femdom sessions. Guys will pay more for these and often findom guys will book you, just to hand you more money.

The problem with findom is it is a smaller market of guys and we all want them. There are more vanilla guys so there is more of a consistent income flowing in. Findom focused is not a consistent income for me, it's more of a big influx then quiet. I may or may not make more or the same than other girls but I certainly work less for it. It's not a reliable income though.

If you open up to femdom as a whole, that is way more of a reliable income.

fetishqueen
05-14-2018, 02:02 PM
Those prices are vanilla shows which is high for vanilla IMO.
You mentioned about growing your findom persona. The issue when it comes to findom is that having a nude persona aswell kinda kills it (for me and many others it seems). It allows me to have the superior attitude towards them and deprive them of nudity as they are 'undeserving' there have been times I have shown my findom clients my boobs or pussy and even me cumming on video. I did however charge $300 to see tits, $700 to see pussy and made one guy tip $1000 to see me cum for 10 seconds on video.
(Which is CRAZY considering a year or two before that, I was on MFC selling 15 cum videos for $20 and boob flashes for $5)

Having the two personas doesn't cross over well, you kinda have to be this or that in order to really see the money. Escorting in your situation would turn into cash meets and fetish/femdom sessions. Guys will pay more for these and often findom guys will book you, just to hand you more money.

The problem with findom is it is a smaller market of guys and we all want them. There are more vanilla guys so there is more of a consistent income flowing in. Findom focused is not a consistent income for me, it's more of a big influx then quiet. I may or may not make more or the same than other girls but I certainly work less for it. It's not a reliable income though.

If you open up to femdom as a whole, that is way more of a reliable income.

Haha yes that's what I thought! We would all do findom if we could I guess!

Thanks for your response, it's interesting. I'm definitely far too naked on AW to be successful at findom! But I should definitely explore other avenues. So many directions to take in this industry. I like a few different income streams purely for my security and I do explore fetishes elsewhere. Food for thought though, thank you! :)

scarletl
05-14-2018, 02:13 PM
In theory you could keep 2 personas on adultwork easier than on some other sites. You can switch your name and profile pic, change your rates and run TV shows a few times a week.

That's a pretty good idea. Plus on most clip stores allow two stores, many girls do one vanilla and one femdom/findom.

fetishqueen
05-14-2018, 02:32 PM
I see the logic of having two stores now! But you can only have one profile on AW though...

CatBBW
05-14-2018, 03:32 PM
In theory you could keep 2 personas on adultwork easier than on some other sites. You can switch your name and profile pic, change your rates and run TV shows a few times a week.

Against their rules though. You get caught, you lose all your creds waiting to be transferred and unlikely to ever be allowed back on the site.

And I'm all FOR being able to have more than one persona on there.

CatBBW
05-14-2018, 03:33 PM
I see the logic of having two stores now! But you can only have one profile on AW though...

You can have 3 - one seeking services, one solo offering and one duo offering. But the duo offering one will need to actually be a duo, with links to solo profiles and both people verified.

fetishqueen
05-14-2018, 03:45 PM
You can have 3 - one seeking services, one solo offering and one duo offering. But the duo offering one will need to actually be a duo, with links to solo profiles and both people verified.

Yes my apologies I meant as a solo person. I didn't know you could have a seeking services as well as an offering services though, that's news to me.

CatBBW
05-14-2018, 04:08 PM
Yes my apologies I meant as a solo person. I didn't know you could have a seeking services as well as an offering services though, that's news to me.

Unless that's changed sinced I last read the rules :D (which wouldn't surprise me! lol)

sexysusie
05-15-2018, 09:35 AM
Susie, I thought your "other work" was replacing your webcam work?

I'm working on it :D

sexysusie
05-15-2018, 09:40 AM
It's really about how much you earn in a days work not about how high your rates are these days. The most important factor is to me is what goes straight into my bank account!!

Sometimes I have been cheaper on AW and it has worked very well, built up regulars that stay on for hours with me and I don't even need to do anything sexual!! And most weeks I have made over a thousand credits after aw cut I would come out with £700 for the week!! So changing prices from high to low works well for me. If people are worried over other webcam girls charging low then that is their problem, staying at high prices may look good but doesn't mean you are making a fortune!

Prices don't affect how long you are in shows, that's my point. There are webcam sites where the norm is super low rates, and there are porn sites where everything is free. Men are on AW because they like AW, and they are willing to spend. The same guy spending £1.99 on one girl in private is also spending £3.99 on another in private. The difference is the first girl makes £80 for an hour (as most are rarely in private for a full hour we'll say 40 mins), while the second makes that in 20 minutes, doing less work, seeing less customers, and with time to spare to splitcam other sites and make money on top (which is what I do).

You're doing awesome :) But you can do even more!!!

fetishqueen
05-15-2018, 12:18 PM
Huh that's odd, I didn't mean 2 accounts, only one. I'm not saying I don't believe you or you should test the rules but to clarify I meant using your normal account, and changing your nickname and profile pic to suit your mood when you log in. Same profile, same user ID number,you stay on the same hotlists and have the same feedback. Just giving the customers an idea of what to expect when one day you might keep a vanilla pic and name then the next day you fancy dressing up in all your finest and calling yourself mistress dommeface or whatever....

That's all within the rules I'm sure but surely it's super confusing for customers?

Classy_Katy
05-15-2018, 12:42 PM
Huh that's odd, I didn't mean 2 accounts, only one. I'm not saying I don't believe you or you should test the rules but to clarify I meant using your normal account, and changing your nickname and profile pic to suit your mood when you log in. Same profile, same user ID number,you stay on the same hotlists and have the same feedback. Just giving the customers an idea of what to expect when one day you might keep a vanilla pic and name then the next day you fancy dressing up in all your finest and calling yourself mistress dommeface or whatever....

I'm not sure how easily we can change our nicknames but guys would realise that you are switching between the two and that would kill your Fem Dom personna.

alexismay
05-15-2018, 12:50 PM
what would be a great idea if we could all collectively raise our rates at the same time every year, just like all our bills go up every year, that we way could raise the minimum overall, guys on that site will pay it! 60pence a min is far too cheap, with AW commission it only works out as 39 pence per minute, how about a minimum of 1.80 for group and 2.50 for private. Just a suggestion.

Rubyfloozy
05-17-2018, 03:06 AM
I guess AW are ok with our profile pics being on Twitter since they are now offering the option to add pic to tweet when we login.

Classy_Katy
05-17-2018, 03:42 AM
I guess AW are ok with our profile pics being on Twitter since they are now offering the option to add pic to tweet when we login.

Here's their tweet about it https://twitter.com/AdultWorkcom/status/996786308742819840

It's linking to your profile so that's a bit different from posting the same pics on another site, for other business.

More Twitter AW info https://www.adultwork.com/LKBA.asp?A=625

Classy_Katy
05-17-2018, 04:07 AM
I just tried and nothing happened! We have new Twitter options in our directcam settings too.

sexysusie
05-17-2018, 06:52 AM
Mine is working. I like it, especially when it says you finished a call :)

Classy_Katy
05-17-2018, 06:57 AM
It worked this time...it does look a lot better. Must be the new guy's input.

Classy_Katy
05-17-2018, 07:33 AM
Myles Jackman is giving a talk on 11 June in London - Is my porn legal?

https://twitter.com/MylesJackman/status/996795441248395264

tropo
05-17-2018, 10:24 AM
Interesting you say this, Amazon sellers have the same issue. You see majority of the sellers complaining about china selling for super low prices on UK Amazon and driving everything into the ground. The UK sellers cannot simply go that low without losing profits.

The reason I don't do vanilla anymore is because the guys expect it super cheap and their expectations are high. They want luxury steak dinner for £1. The main reason I have changed the way I work in this industry is so I can target people/fetishes where guys cannot get it good & cheap or free.
They have no choice but to pay high to fulfil their needs.

I'm not rich at all. I'm not looking down on anyone. I just feel if a model has experience she is worth more. New models charging low to grow their base, I understand and think we've all been there. But surely once you're experienced enough to give someone a great show that's worth decent money then charging them higher is a given.

I think SM is a great example, guys over there happily pay $7.99 a minute for a cam show, despite the model only getting 30%. They are willing to pay it.
So if they are willing to pay prices like that on SM, what is different to AW that makes them unwilling to pay higher?

SM is not a good example. Sure, you can try to get $7.99 a minute and maybe you could be succesful if you provide special shows. I can't get anywhere near that price and generally SM has gone to the pack. My exclusive prices is $5.99 and I hardly ever get them. I won't tell you my normal private rate as I don't want to upset the highflyers on here that could think I'm messing it up for them.

sexysusie
05-17-2018, 12:46 PM
^ You're mainly just messing it up for yourself. No one 'has' to charge low to get shows. There are many successful models (including uk ones) at 7.99 and above. Im sorry if that annoys you but it's true.

Classy_Katy
05-17-2018, 10:00 PM
There is a difference between providing femdom and vanilla shows though...unless you're in a small and popular niche, you're not going to be able to charge the same rates as for femdom.

tropo
05-17-2018, 11:22 PM
^ You're mainly just messing it up for yourself. No one 'has' to charge low to get shows. There are many successful models (including uk ones) at 7.99 and above. Im sorry if that annoys you but it's true.

It's not true at all, in fact, it's nonsense. You're a bit slow on the uptake. What part of "I've been at this for 12 years and experimented extensively with rates" do you find hard to grasp?... and if you're doing well at your high rates, why all the whining about models who charge less. They're obviously not affecting you at all...

But...I thought you were going to move on. ("move the fuck on", you told me, remember?) Please don't reply to me and you won't hear from me either. We'll just agree to disagree and call it quits.

Bye!

tropo
05-17-2018, 11:25 PM
There is a difference between providing femdom and vanilla shows though...unless you're in a small and popular niche, you're not going to be able to charge the same rates as for femdom.

You hit the nail on the head. I'm a boring vanillla model LOL I don't even use toys and NEVER anal play. We all have our thing. That's as far as I go for money.

sexysusie
05-18-2018, 02:30 PM
There is a difference between providing femdom and vanilla shows though...unless you're in a small and popular niche, you're not going to be able to charge the same rates as for femdom.

You can charge whatever you like and there will be guys who pay. Saying you can't charge more because you are not/ don't have x, y, z is just limiting yourself unnecessarily. I have seen well-known glamour models and porn stars undervaluing themselves, charging silly low rates, while complete (in some eyes) nobodies charge £4.99/min and get shows.. many times. Yes I have noticed there is a difference (for me) between sites - i feel comfortable charging a lot more on AW for eg than i do on SM, simply because the free chat makes me less confident and less patient so I am unable to give my all as I would on a private based site. I still charge 7.99/9.99 though. I am not a femdom, not a true one anyway, although sometimes i like to portray that persona. I'm as vanilla as they come.


They're obviously not affecting you at all...

Because this isn't about me. I actually give a shit about other models and want them to do well. I'm not going just off my own experience when i talk about rates (heck have you never seen one of my melt-downs?), this is from marketing and psychology... years and years of research showing exactly what works in sales, or what is likely to. Maybe you have no interest in that and that's fine, but I do, and if there is a model out there worrying about raising her rates because she doesn't do anal, or only just started, or has a crappy camera, or isn't a femdom or whatever.. I'm damn well going to tell her she CAN. Because it's not about her rates, it's about confidence in her ability to sell and knowledge of how to market herself.

Ladybuggie
05-19-2018, 02:24 PM
Is JCI down for anyone else? Cannot connect to the server! I just went on the site and there's only 201 models online. Crazy.

Kristen_Krystal
05-19-2018, 02:29 PM
Yes it's not connecting for me either for Direct IM. Hopefully they'll get it fixed soon.

MissLouiseKay
05-21-2018, 12:45 AM
The conversation about what to charge always amuses me on here.

I don't think any of us have a right to say what we should and shouldn't charge. I am 1.99 and 3.99 a minute. If you are happy being 99p or 1.39p for group then so be it. If you want to be 60p and you like that then do it. Personally I don't think I would get shows at 2.99 a minute. You can tell me i might but I would rather know that I will defo get shows and I know 1.99 is the best price point for me. I have bills to pay I live alone I don't have a partner to take up the slack so I am not gonna risk being more money just because I'm a luxury product

Charge what you want to as long as you are happy so be it.

We are luxury products but I am not about to outprice myself. I would always rather drop my prices a little and keep my mortgage pension and savings topped up that be skint.

fetishqueen
05-21-2018, 01:43 AM
The conversation about what to charge always amuses me on here.

I don't think any of us have a right to say what we should and shouldn't charge. I am 1.99 and 3.99 a minute. If you are happy being 99p or 1.39p for group then so be it. If you want to be 60p and you like that then do it. Personally I don't think I would get shows at 2.99 a minute. You can tell me i might but I would rather know that I will defo get shows and I know 1.99 is the best price point for me. I have bills to pay I live alone I don't have a partner to take up the slack so I am not gonna risk being more money just because I'm a luxury product

Charge what you want to as long as you are happy so be it.

We are luxury products but I am not about to outprice myself. I would always rather drop my prices a little and keep my mortgage pension and savings topped up that be skint.

Exactly.

tropo
05-21-2018, 09:25 AM
Because this isn't about me. I actually give a shit about other models and want them to do well. I'm not going just off my own experience when i talk about rates (heck have you never seen one of my melt-downs?), this is from marketing and psychology... years and years of research showing exactly what works in sales, or what is likely to. Maybe you have no interest in that and that's fine, but I do, and if there is a model out there worrying about raising her rates because she doesn't do anal, or only just started, or has a crappy camera, or isn't a femdom or whatever.. I'm damn well going to tell her she CAN. Because it's not about her rates, it's about confidence in her ability to sell and knowledge of how to market herself.

And you're still at it. I didn't visit this thread for days, hoping you'd stopped...

Your advice is basically useless and over complicates things... and in most cases it will cause models to make less and quit. It may well be useful for some new models who still need to find their price points, but not for experienced models who have spent much time experimenting.

I already explained it quite well, but you're very slow on the uptake, or you just enjoy arguing...

I have personally experiment extenstively with my price point, on many sites, over many years. I know I am charging exactly what I need to charge to make the most money I can on the sites I work on... not a cent more, not a cent less. I have been quite successful in my own estimation, but not knowing how much you make other than "high and higher, I cannot compare. By all accounts, as a superstar you probably do a lot better, but we're not all born equal appearance wise. We can all just do the best we can with what we were given. I'm doing the best I can... and not undervaluing my worth, but well aware of it. Camming is no ego campaign for me. It's not a hobby - it's my income source, that's it.

You already asked me to "move the fuck on"... well how about you do it too. I'll skip this thread for a week and hopefully you haven't replied again.

AuroraJade
05-21-2018, 11:40 AM
I always wonder that if it were true that higher rates=higher hourly then I wonder why there are only a small handful of models on SM for example charging 20$/min and I think they are all Findommes.

The most of us just reach a plateau where you can raise your rates even more but that will damage your clientele.

sexysusie
05-21-2018, 02:04 PM
You already asked me to "move the fuck on"... .

And you just couldn't do it could you. Maybe if you had actually experimented more you'd understand why others may have a different view point to you.
I'm just putting you on ignore now.


The most of us just reach a plateau where you can raise your rates even more but that will damage your clientele.

yes there's definitely a limit. If most are around a certain price point (on aw for eg that is 1.99 - 3.50) then being around that but higher can make you positively stand out as it reduces buyer overwhelm. There will still be some guys who would go for you even at $20 but i think the sweet spot is usually within a few pounds/dollars of the average.

CatBBW
05-21-2018, 09:04 PM
Far too many women are following AW's advice of "your rates are too high, the standard is 1 cred for group" etc etc. We need to challenge that every day.

GeezLouise
05-21-2018, 10:33 PM
I'll post this again just to share my experience. I have a few findom clients on AW.
I tell them to message me before they want to direct cam so I can raise my rates for them.

I then change my rates to 4.99 group and 5.99 pvt amd guess what? Every time I'm in group at 3.99 per minute lots of guys come in to have a peak. Lots of them leave because I'm a domme and I'm just chatting with my findom guys but I can imagine if you would do a toy show in group for that rate those guys would stay.

It's ridiculous that AW even suggests lowering your rate.

MissLouiseKay
05-21-2018, 11:14 PM
I'll post this again just to share my experience. I have a few findom clients on AW.
I tell them to message me before they want to direct cam so I can raise my rates for them.

I then change my rates to 4.99 group and 5.99 pvt amd guess what? Every time I'm in group at 3.99 per minute lots of guys come in to have a peak. Lots of them leave because I'm a domme and I'm just chatting with my findom guys but I can imagine if you would do a toy show in group for that rate those guys would stay.

It's ridiculous that AW even suggests lowering your rate.

totally not true. I've been legs a kimbo with a toy in me at 1.99 and guys still leave

Classy_Katy
05-22-2018, 12:17 AM
Some guys just like a quick peak at everyone in group rather than have a show with one girl and a higher rate than normal may make them wonder what they might otherwise be missing.

Someone who had been on cam longer than I had once told me that it doesn't matter what you charge, you will find it balances out to be around the same. What changing your rates does is attract attention, and you will be seen by new guys, but then it eventually tapers off again...I lose most of my customers when I raise my private rate. I have also had to factor in only camming 2-4 times a day and at a shitty time of day, when loads of girls are charging low rates. I didn't have the luxury of waiting for guys who were prepared to pay higher rates.

I am happier since I lowered my private rate from 3.50 to 2.50 as I'm getting the types of shows that I prefer again and my old regulars back. Group for me is best at 1.75, any higher and they dry up, any lower and I get the guys who think they can bark orders at me. I've found that having group priced less than 1 credit below the private rate, encourages more private shows. It seems to give the idea of "well it's not that much more to go private, so I will do".

GeezLouise
05-22-2018, 02:57 AM
MissLouiseKay I don't mean they will stay as long as you do toy shows. What I meant was that it was more likely that they would have stayed (longer) if there was actually something to see.

There are always guys popping in and out of group but I think those who pop in and are looking for a show will stay. Doesn't matter if you charge 1,99 or 2,99.

I do get Classy Katy. Back in 2010 it was easy just to login without any regulars and I'd make my goal easily. Now I really need those regulars to get to my weekly goal.

scarletl
05-22-2018, 04:44 AM
I think the way you prefer to work is a huge part in pricing too. Obviously if you are charging a higher rate you will get less shows & longer gaps between shows, VS being lower rate you will be more on-going busy.

So if you are someone who only wants to log on for 1-2 hours a day & keep super busy in that time (or you get bored easily) then a lower rate is probably going to work out far better for you.

Because I only do femdom/findom on AW I do charge higher, mainly because well my character is about making men pay higher and for the fact that when I was at a lower rate, I was attracting men into my room who failed to read my profile and expected lots of things I just didn't do. By charging higher I seemed to have narrowed out allot of idiots and now seem to attract the type of guy I want to do privates with. But on a downside I do have to wait longer for those privates and some days they don't come along at all.

If I was vanilla I would charge lower, there is more competition for vanilla and the market of guys for vanilla is bigger. I would prefer to just log on and be busy for an hour or two and log off, job done for the day.

sexysusie
05-22-2018, 06:33 AM
Obviously if you are charging a higher rate you will get less shows & longer gaps between shows

If you have regulars this doesn't have to be true. I average out at around 30 mins of every hour spent in private at 3.99. That's the same as it was years ago when i was at 3. The only time my average in paid goes down is between 4 - 7am when there are far less guys on. I always have at least 3 regulars show up during my shift and they stay between 20 - 40 mins, then there are the ones who have 10 min shows every couple of weeks (semi regulars), and new guys. Then i always get at least a 10 min show on my other site per hour. So altogether i am pretty busy. Yesterday i hopped on for 1 hour 7 - 8pm and was in private the entire time and was done for the day! So cultivate those regulars, they are your bread and butter!


By charging higher I seemed to have narrowed out allot of idiots and now seem to attract the type of guy I want to do privates with

Yes, me too. I've wavered a bit over the years as to what i'm really providing and to whom, but these guys tend to prefer domination and roleplay and kinky fetish, so the choice is made for me :)