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Carmel57
11-05-2020, 03:31 PM
I think I’ll be doing the same. Although it pains me.
It goes against everything I believe in but I have joined the group susie has recommended.... I have chatted to someone on skype and done a transfer already and I will let you know when it arrives and if its the correct amount. Only did 200 credits as a test but amount but saves me £10 in VAT. I like being independant and doing my own transfers and I am nervous about someone having access to my credits that said the hit of VAT is a lot so risk v reward. Its a good business model for them so fair play!
samuimoon
11-05-2020, 11:39 PM
Ladies, sorry to say it is only going to get worse for Sex Workers, they gave sexual freedoms the like we have never seen, in order to pull the rug and demonise it, outlaw it, as a means of social control. Watch Handmaids Tale. They gave us unlimited world travel and now they are taking it away. There is a bigger agenda at play here, and it has been closing in for quite some time, the laws in California, the difficulty in getting payments through regular channels - such as Paypal, I am sure others can think of more instances where the earnings of sex workers is being guaged and guaged. The writing is on the wall ladies it is not about the individual, look at what is happening as a whole, globally.
BritishCammer1992
11-06-2020, 02:01 AM
It goes against everything I believe in but I have joined the group susie has recommended.... I have chatted to someone on skype and done a transfer already and I will let you know when it arrives and if its the correct amount. Only did 200 credits as a test but amount but saves me £10 in VAT. I like being independant and doing my own transfers and I am nervous about someone having access to my credits that said the hit of VAT is a lot so risk v reward. Its a good business model for them so fair play!
Be keen to know how this goes. I've been on AW since 2013 and never even come close to joining a group as like you I've been very sceptical of it all. But if it helps avoid the stupid charges I'm all for it now!
fetishqueen
11-06-2020, 02:22 AM
I'm wondering why a lot of the girls in groups are still charging VAT? Lots of them that were clearly at £2.99 before are now at £3.56 and I thought the whole advantage these days was that that wasn't the case? They could charge what they did before and make the same? I'm confused!
MissLouiseKay
11-06-2020, 02:42 AM
I'm wondering why a lot of the girls in groups are still charging VAT? Lots of them that were clearly at £2.99 before are now at £3.56 and I thought the whole advantage these days was that that wasn't the case? They could charge what they did before and make the same? I'm confused!
Groups take the VAT off the admin fee. Nothing changes with direct cam prices or positioning
fetishqueen
11-06-2020, 02:53 AM
Thanks Louise, so unless I'm being thick, joining a group makes no difference to the visual price a customer pays, and although you save the 6% extra on fees, most groups charge around 5%? I must have missed something because I see very little advantage to joining a group now? Apart from the 1% advantage.
MissLouiseKay
11-06-2020, 02:59 AM
Thanks Louise, so unless I'm being thick, joining a group makes no difference to the visual price a customer pays, and although you save the 6% extra on fees, most groups charge around 5%? I must have missed something because I see very little advantage to joining a group now? Apart from the 1% advantage.
The only additional payment I am doing is 50p per transfer. I assume the group makes some money or has a tax break by claiming back our VAT I am not sure. I don't need daily pay so this works perfectly for me
fetishqueen
11-07-2020, 02:50 PM
So after a week of the new VAT nonsense, I am very much down on earnings as expected. Free has been much quieter too although that's not always a bad thing! How has everyone been doing since the changes? I have altered my price a little to cover the vat on fees so I make the same per minute as before but obviously I'm quite a lot higher than I would like to be.
sexysusie
11-07-2020, 03:30 PM
I have only worked twice since and made more than usual. That is probably because i raised my price significantly just before the VAT change though lol, so i only need one guy to make bank.
ROSIECAM
11-08-2020, 01:41 AM
Diabolical
Blonde-Ambition
11-09-2020, 05:04 AM
absolutely shocking! over 700 girls on by midday!
ThatBritishCamGirl
11-09-2020, 05:11 AM
Bloody hell
Blonde-Ambition
11-09-2020, 05:28 AM
alot of girls seemed to have changed their prices to pre vat price, i just can't justify that as i'd end up taking nothing!
Dahlia Fallon
11-09-2020, 05:38 AM
absolutely shocking! over 700 girls on by midday!
Probably because AW have switched off escorting bookings. Escorting requests on cam are way up though so maybe that is a workaround for some people
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Blonde-Ambition
11-09-2020, 06:05 AM
on another note, has payment gone in yet?
GeezLouise
11-09-2020, 06:08 AM
on another note, has payment gone in yet?
It just went in for me
Blonde-Ambition
11-09-2020, 06:11 AM
eeekk mine hasn't! not this again! this is all i need!
GeezLouise
11-09-2020, 07:01 AM
eeekk mine hasn't! not this again! this is all i need!
Normally for me its anywhere between noon and 3pm so I wouldn't worry
Blonde-Ambition
11-09-2020, 07:10 AM
aw it's JUST gone in
Blonde-Ambition
11-09-2020, 08:13 AM
this is actually depressing me now! i have had no1 in since 11am! it is DEAD! i have done bidding, not done bidding, changed pics, sweet FA! i am panicking
sexysusie
11-09-2020, 08:53 AM
this is actually depressing me now! i have had no1 in since 11am! it is DEAD! i have done bidding, not done bidding, changed pics, sweet FA! i am panicking
Honestly blonde have you considered a part time vanilla job? It may help ease your stress a bit. Unfortunately with adult you just have to keep hustling over and over.
Blonde-Ambition
11-09-2020, 10:35 AM
i do/did! hair and beauty! but obviously can't at moment with current situation :(
Blonde-Ambition
11-10-2020, 03:22 AM
hi girls, can someone help please as i can't for the life of me work it out!
IF i join a group, they pat the vat on admins fees right? so i would cash out my normal amount? with their fee too obviously
would my rates for customers still show with the VAT price included?
or if i did drop my rates to what they USED to be shown at, 1.99, would i get all of that? or minus the 19/20% whatever the vat is they have added!
i am so confused! don't even know if that made sense but if someone could help! i'd be most grateful
x
CatBBW
11-10-2020, 03:34 AM
hi girls, can someone help please as i can't for the life of me work it out!
IF i join a group, they pat the vat on admins fees right? so i would cash out my normal amount? with their fee too obviously
would my rates for customers still show with the VAT price included?
or if i did drop my rates to what they USED to be shown at, 1.99, would i get all of that? or minus the 19/20% whatever the vat is they have added!
i am so confused! don't even know if that made sense but if someone could help! i'd be most grateful
x
Bit I bolded: Yes because you only save on the VAT on the ADMIN fee (that AW takes on cashing out) it has nothing to do with the VAT on the cam etc prices as AW collects that from your customers. Like they've been doing with the VAT on pic and clip sales for a few years.
Blonde-Ambition
11-10-2020, 03:36 AM
thank you cat. what about if i dropped them to say £2 and £3, so that is what showed to the customer? i wouldn't get that would i? i would get the 20% less?
CatBBW
11-10-2020, 03:39 AM
thank you cat. what about if i dropped them to say £2 and £3, so that is what showed to the customer? i wouldn't get that would i? i would get the 20% less?
If you drop to £2 and £3 then your customer will see approx £2.40 and £3.60. You will get £2 and £3 (minus the JCI facility fee of 6% I think it is now). That's whether you're in a group or not.
Blonde-Ambition
11-10-2020, 03:41 AM
aw i want them to see £2 and £3
so i need to drop it even lower? so £3 would be like £2.40? sorry for the confusion-ness!
CatBBW
11-10-2020, 03:42 AM
To display £2 for group to your customers you will have to put £1.68, and for £3 private it's £2.52.
Blonde-Ambition
11-10-2020, 03:43 AM
thank you. oh god, this is a nightmare :( i'm just not getting anyone in yet i can't justify dropping them that low!
CatBBW
11-10-2020, 03:45 AM
thank you. oh god, this is a nightmare :( i'm just not getting anyone in yet i can't justify dropping them that low!
I just did the private workout, it's £2.52 to display £3.
Blonde-Ambition
11-10-2020, 03:47 AM
thank you so much cat :) i don't know what to do!
xx
CatBBW
11-10-2020, 03:53 AM
thank you so much cat :) i don't know what to do!
xx
I'm sitting it out. It's very quiet, I'm having days without customers. But I can't justify earning 2.50 a minute for Private. Special offers, ie a day or 2 or even a week, that's fine. But not all the time.
Blonde-Ambition
11-10-2020, 04:01 AM
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking! They were my rates years ago when I started!
It is soooooooo quiet xx
Kristen_Krystal
11-10-2020, 04:09 AM
I'm still indecisive as to join a group or not. I'm like you Blondie, I get over-anxious about things. I worry about what might go wrong too much & then I get stressed. I don't like change.
I think everything is slow at the moment due to this lockdown again.
I've only been on cam once this year at the beginning of lockdown & it was quite so, I've focused on phone chat instead & that's been fine on my other phone chat site. It's just AW that's been affected by the current situation for me.
I'm going to get back on cam later this week, but I'm not going to be reducing my cam rates, no chance! If I'm not as bust as I would like, then I'm just going to make clips instead of cam. Little cheap non-nude clips.
Blonde-Ambition
11-10-2020, 04:26 AM
thank you Kristen. I literally am an anxious wreck! if it's quiet, i think it's me! i hate change! the first lockdown things were ok for me but then there was millions of new girl sign ups which i feel hasn't helped. i would like to think i am worth the rates i charge when i have been doing it so long and for what i offer! and like i always say, i constantly update pics, vids, pay for positioning hourly every day!
that makes me feel better that you are keeping same rates as so many have now dropped them, i noticed that alot last night too :/ x
fetishqueen
11-10-2020, 05:16 AM
I haven't dropped either. I'm charging what I need to make the same per minute as last month, covering the increase in fees. So on paper I am a fair bit pricier and I am significantly quieter but I am also sticking it out.
Strawberryblonde
11-10-2020, 08:16 AM
I'm sitting it out. It's very quiet, I'm having days without customers. But I can't justify earning 2.50 a minute for Private. Special offers, ie a day or 2 or even a week, that's fine. But not all the time.
I have been the same, I suspect another impact will be the same spend won't last as long, but that then frees performers up for someone else. Also I think the current situation regards rules, lockdown has thrown a lot of people off kilter.
Blonde-Ambition
11-10-2020, 08:26 AM
definately but now where i am so quiet, i'm in two frames of mind, is earning abit better than not at all!?
but then what happens if this is just a super quiet patch!?
Strawberryblonde
11-10-2020, 08:34 AM
definately but now where i am so quiet, i'm in two frames of mind, is earning abit better than not at all!?
but then what happens if this is just a super quiet patch!?
That is what I was thinking too, but then I had a really good day and some requests outside of AW.
In some ways makes arrangements on other platforms, or privately away from AW very attractive.
Kristen_Krystal
11-10-2020, 08:44 AM
thank you Kristen. I literally am an anxious wreck! if it's quiet, i think it's me! i hate change! the first lockdown things were ok for me but then there was millions of new girl sign ups which i feel hasn't helped. i would like to think i am worth the rates i charge when i have been doing it so long and for what i offer! and like i always say, i constantly update pics, vids, pay for positioning hourly every day!
that makes me feel better that you are keeping same rates as so many have now dropped them, i noticed that alot last night too :/ x
Exactly. You're worth every penny & more.
Are you on TTM? I'm finding I'm earning more on there this year than I did last year. It's definately worth considering if you're okay with phone chat & IM. You can have 6 listings live at a time if you join the cougar sister site.
Over the last few years my earnings have gradulally dropped on AW year on year & on TTM they've significantly risen.
CatBBW
11-10-2020, 08:44 AM
Another thought is that if you're already making pics and clips for AW, then make sure you've joined everywhere that you can upload those pics & clips for a cash return. Onlyfans/AVNStars/LoyalFans/Frisk etc, Niteflirt, ManyVids, Iwantclips, MFCshare, Clips4Sale, Skyprivate, Cammodeldirectory, fancentro/modelcentro, texting/sexting, snapchat, whatsapp, discord... (please note: I am not endorsing any of these, and there are prolly LOADS that I have missed, I am just giving ideas here).
And PROMOTE the butt off your stuff. You can schedule tweets on Twitter now so can hit every time of the day wherever in the world the customers are.
OOH also: your own website. Not a nudey one. One where you can tease and attract guys to click the links where they can find and pay you. WRITE A BLOG ON THERE. This keep your content fresh and you will be indexed by google (another reason to keep it PG-13/non nude) so you will be found easily.
You may already be doing all this, but I just wanted to throw it all out there that if you're making pics and clips for AW, you may as well put them to work elsewhere.
Blonde-Ambition
11-10-2020, 08:49 AM
thank you kristen :) i think i am but then when no1 comes in, i literally sit there and think, evidently, i am not worth it :/
i'm not actually, i will most definately have a look at that right now!
thank you so much x
Arwen25
11-10-2020, 08:49 AM
Another thought is that if you're already making pics and clips for AW, then make sure you've joined everywhere that you can upload those pics & clips for a cash return. Onlyfans/AVNStars/LoyalFans/Frisk etc, Niteflirt, ManyVids, Iwantclips, MFCshare, Clips4Sale, Skyprivate, Cammodeldirectory, fancentro/modelcentro, texting/sexting, snapchat, whatsapp, discord... (please note: I am not endorsing any of these, and there are prolly LOADS that I have missed, I am just giving ideas here).
And PROMOTE the butt off your stuff. You can schedule tweets on Twitter now so can hit every time of the day wherever in the world the customers are.
OOH also: your own website. Not a nudey one. One where you can tease and attract guys to click the links where they can find and pay you. WRITE A BLOG ON THERE. This keep your content fresh and you will be indexed by google (another reason to keep it PG-13/non nude) so you will be found easily.
You may already be doing all this, but I just wanted to throw it all out there that if you're making pics and clips for AW, you may as well put them to work elsewhere.
What golden advice this all is! Diversify, work as many sites as your computer can handle, experiment with releasing clips at different times of day. It is hard work for most of us but this can still be very lucrative!
Blonde-Ambition
11-10-2020, 08:50 AM
thank you cat, there are a few of them i haven't even heard of so i will look at them now also! thank you x
Arwen25
11-10-2020, 08:54 AM
I wanted to ask, actually. I didn't know about being Indexed by Google. Cat, is there any particular website template you'd recommend? I've never tried blogging before but I'm expressive and good with words so I'd like to give it a go! x
CatBBW
11-10-2020, 09:00 AM
I wanted to ask, actually. I didn't know about being Indexed by Google. Cat, is there any particular website template you'd recommend? I've never tried blogging before but I'm expressive and good with words so I'd like to give it a go! x
I'm using Wordpress hosted by YourEscortSite (which is closing I just noticed, DAMMIT) and I absolutely don't follow my own advice re blogging LOL! I have never managed to find my mojo there, which is daft cos I love writing!
Arwen25
11-10-2020, 09:03 AM
Thanks Cat! I will look into an alternative to YouEscortSite that you mentioned! x
Kristen_Krystal
11-10-2020, 02:23 PM
I was reading about a little marketing trick today that Marks & Spencer do to boost sales & it made good sense to me & I'm going to try & apply the same tactics to my own personal sales.
What they do is they'll have a really popular product like a body cream & once it's popularity starts to wane, they'll take it away for a while so that it becomes hard to buy. Then, they'll re-package it & bring it back.
The wording, ingredients & price will be exactly the same, but instead of it being 250 mils, it's now 200 mils.
All the creams loyal devotees will rush to buy it & stock up on it in case it disappears again & the new snazzy packaging will attract new buyers.
It's like an underhand, sneaky price hike because you get less product for your money.
So, I think when times get tough re-package & offer less but don't ever drop the price :)
sexysusie
11-10-2020, 04:54 PM
That is what I was thinking too, but then I had a really good day and some requests outside of AW.
In some ways makes arrangements on other platforms, or privately away from AW very attractive.
^ this
I moved away from being exclusive to AW years ago and last year AW became really just a second site for me. I'm earning more now than ever and when I'm on AW I also earn better than I did before because I'm not stressed about long patches of quietness, you just do other stuff. Not relying on the platform for your business really makes a big difference. Just use it as a payment processor and bring in your own traffic. But as other platforms take less it makes sense to take them there instead, or as well as.
I was reading about a little marketing trick today that Marks & Spencer do to boost sales & it made good sense to me & I'm going to try & apply the same tactics to my own personal sales.
What they do is they'll have a really popular product like a body cream & once it's popularity starts to wane, they'll take it away for a while so that it becomes hard to buy. Then, they'll re-package it & bring it back.
The wording, ingredients & price will be exactly the same, but instead of it being 250 mils, it's now 200 mils.
All the creams loyal devotees will rush to buy it & stock up on it in case it disappears again & the new snazzy packaging will attract new buyers.
It's like an underhand, sneaky price hike because you get less product for your money.
So, I think when times get tough re-package & offer less but don't ever drop the price :)
Yep. Lots of great tactics you can use. That's why it pays to read up on marketing and psychology. All the ways the big brands use to manipulate Customers we can use too :D
Blonde-Ambition
11-11-2020, 08:29 AM
did anyone find anymore out about this vat at all? is it all correct and it is a new thing!?