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beauvoir
09-23-2014, 02:42 PM
It was a massive attack on the AW system a while ago which caused AW to be offline for a couple of weeks and be really shaky when it came back online again. Loads of customers and performers jumped ship. It was really scary, especially for those who rely solely on AW for their income. They've had a couple of attacks since.
Classy_Katy
09-23-2014, 02:49 PM
I have always and only ever have been a domme on AW. All my sub guys I found on there and it's where I direct all my sub guys.
I have over a 1000 followers on twitter that is on my domme account and they are all submissives.
I only cam on AW around 3-4 times a week for about 2-4 hours at a time (depending on how busy it is).
I can't tell whether this month is just a really bad month or whether the site is going downhill to a dead end. You wouldn't know until you have suffered at least 3 bad months IMO. August was a good month for me on AW, not amazing but a wage I was more than happy with.
The only reason I cam on AW is purely because I domme there and won't domme on my other sites.
I tweet out to my 1000 sub followers each time im on and not one single person will come through from there (they used to) but not now. This could be put down to lack of marketing, how expensive AW is, new competition, free sites or anything else.
I have just tweeted out to my guys actually asking them if they like AW or not or do they prefer other sites etc
But I for sure would not put all your eggs in one basket on AW
This month is being particularly bad, time will tell...
Missymissdemeanour
09-23-2014, 03:48 PM
I agree Katie, this month has been bad in comparison to other Septembers. And yeah it takes more than one bad month to see whats really happening. I also agree re eggs and baskets lol I have a few different ones ;).
I can say that our (my bf & I) have a vanilla ebay business that has also suffered this year, sales not as good as they have and could have been so maybe it's not just AW or camming in general. I have to say although I've not cammed on SM for a while I do have a few guys signed up through my referal links and I can see they have been spending a lot less than usual this month too.
We are supposed to be slowly coming out of this recession, but again we shall have to wait and see.
Anyway just to let you know I had a shite shift not helped bythe fact I kept forgetting to position myself lol. Oh well tomorrows another day!
SimoneGray
09-23-2014, 03:53 PM
I personally think its bad everywhere except for the mostly American camsites..something about it being fall/winter is making American guys pay for things but not everywhere else. I get so many American dudes on AW these days I sometimes wonder if its still a British site lol.
Or maybe people are just being cautious with their money, which sux.
scarletl
09-23-2014, 05:16 PM
What concerns me about camming as a whole is that if we are realistic guys spending ££ on a cam show is not a life necessity or even of that great importance (unless they are addicted). It's much like gambling.
It is rare that a guy will go without his weekly alcohol (unless really broke). Guys will only purchase cam shows if they have spare money or money to "waste". Soon as they hit months where they are broke then they stop spending an you will find it will mostly happen all at once in the same month.
I know camming is great and you can earn allot but after the last 6 months of camming I'm really starting to wonder.
I work self employed at home in a vanilla job and I know for a fact I will earn at least £10 an hour (but it's capped to £18 an hour max) but even £10 an hour is above minimum wage.
I think the industry is WAY over populated and guys have so much more choice than they have ever had.
I actually don't think the problem is the guys spending and not having enough money, the problem is too many girls.
1 million pound monthly sales spread across 500 girls gives them £2000 a month
1 million pound monthly sales spread across 1000 girls gives them each £1000 a month
The more girls join, the less your income will be. I know we all believe that cam girls come and go and they do, but most stay for the exact reasons we stayed in the first place. You get a taste of this job and you want to stay forever.
sexysusie
09-23-2014, 06:49 PM
I'm not sure Simone, have you seen the SM thread? Seems SM is having similar problems to AW. The difference of course being that they ADVERTISE heavily so theoretically they can recover from these slow funks.
Seicento do you mind if I ask what your rates are? You don't have to state publicly of course, but it's pretty much asking for cheapos if your rates are low. That's all I can think of as to why you got those comments x
Blonde-Ambition
09-24-2014, 02:52 AM
hmmm very mixed opinions, I thought we were out of recession now! which should have made a difference! I think I should look at my figures from last sept and compare!
Classy_Katy
09-24-2014, 03:08 AM
Do not believe what you hear from mainstream media about the recession, employment and the economy!
seicento
09-24-2014, 03:13 AM
My second shift ended with 0 also .So a total of 7 hours yesterday,till I lost my pattience and logged off.I did both free chat and no free chat,paid for positioning and it was no difference.I am that type of performer who can only do one site bcs of lack of patience so I did always rely on aw bcs it was the only site I enjoyed to be on.
@Susie I`m at 1.99 now.Was at 2.49 for a month and I was not getting any pvt so I settle for 1.99.Tbh right now I can be at 0.6 and still not make a dime.The comments I had were bcs they are being assholes and want everything for free lol
sexysusie
09-24-2014, 03:52 AM
1.99 is very cheap for aw. It's probably why you are getting comments (cheapos notoriously go after the girls who are already 'discounting', doing a 'happy hour' or whatever you might call it - they think if you're cheaper they can maybe get you even cheaper). Also if you are literally making 0 is say there is something up with your stream or connection. The site has slowed way down but even so you should bd making something x
Classy_Katy
09-24-2014, 03:55 AM
It really does suck Seicento! I'm sure at .6 you would make something, not that I'm suggesting it! Most of the privates during the day are with girls who charge around 1 credit a minute. I was once so fed up with just sitting at waiting I lowered my group to .70, I was amazingly busy, getting up to 5 guys at a time and having long sessions, which encouraged more to join in. I had the best month in ages! It didn't last beyond the first month though...I find that tends to be the same for big price changes either up or down, works well for the first month or 2 but then it slows.
sexysusie
09-24-2014, 04:00 AM
I've had plenty of privates during the day at £3.25...
Blonde-Ambition
09-24-2014, 04:14 AM
yeh I notice that some girls are charging anything from £4-£8 a min for pvts and they are in pvts! I feel bad for charging £2.99 for pvt! and I think that's kind of the going rate!
Classy_Katy
09-24-2014, 04:18 AM
Oh yes they do happen...it's just that between 10am and 2.30pm, most privates are with the 1 credit crowd.
seicento
09-24-2014, 04:50 AM
1.99 is very cheap for aw. It's probably why you are getting comments (cheapos notoriously go after the girls who are already 'discounting', doing a 'happy hour' or whatever you might call it - they think if you're cheaper they can maybe get you even cheaper). Also if you are literally making 0 is say there is something up with your stream or connection. The site has slowed way down but even so you should bd making something x
My stream is fine.I had friends checking it for me and sending me screen cap so I can see myself,bcs I thought that could be the issue.I cam in widescreen ,i have a c920,good lights,an i5(at 20% when streaming on aw ) and a good connection(here is my today speed test result :down -81.54 mbps /up-94.75 mbps).Maybe is that Im one of those models constantly online and they got bored.But Im not sure.In the past years I was on cam now and then and I didnt do well that way,was better to be on daily so I dont really know what is best now.
seicento
09-24-2014, 05:10 AM
It really does suck Seicento! I'm sure at .6 you would make something, not that I'm suggesting it! Most of the privates during the day are with girls who charge around 1 credit a minute. I was once so fed up with just sitting at waiting I lowered my group to .70, I was amazingly busy, getting up to 5 guys at a time and having long sessions, which encouraged more to join in. I had the best month in ages! It didn't last beyond the first month though...I find that tends to be the same for big price changes either up or down, works well for the first month or 2 but then it slows.
I usually cam at night but lately I try days,too many models online at night so I said I should try days.I did the .7-1 now and then ,cant say I was busy.Not since august anyway.Im usually told I charge too much for what I offer bcs my fellow easterns are doing everything for 0.7.I was way cheaper last year until Susie adviced me to raise my rates.It wasnt easy ,I struggled for a month or more but then it got better until it died again.At moment I dont think cheaper is better bcs I tried different prices for different hours and was the same.
Classy_Katy
09-24-2014, 05:42 AM
I understand and I wasn't really advocating cheaper rates, just my experience of it...I wouldn't go lower than 2 credits for pvt. I think that is a real problem...guys expecting you to charge the same as the other European Eastern girls, it's so unfair.
seicento
09-24-2014, 06:50 AM
I understand and I wasn't really advocating cheaper rates, just my experience of it...I wouldn't go lower than 2 credits for pvt. I think that is a real problem...guys expecting you to charge the same as the other European Eastern girls, it's so unfair.
Yes,being an eastern between another 300 easterns online at the same time and wanting to charge more is not easy.Im sorry if it came across like I didnt understood what u were saying about lower rates and ur experience,must be my english and the way I type.I understood,especially that I tried that too and know what is like.Sometimes is good for fast money,gets u busier indeed,but like u said,does not last.
sexysusie
09-24-2014, 09:10 AM
I'm sorry too. I'd forgotten our conversation on the same subject a few months back. glad to hear you did raise your rates and it worked for you for a bit. I still say rates are probably the last thing to worry about when it's slow on aw, but i appreciate you have a different set of circumstances to me. I hope it picks up for you x
seicento
09-24-2014, 10:19 AM
I'm sorry too. I'd forgotten our conversation on the same subject a few months back. glad to hear you did raise your rates and it worked for you for a bit. I still say rates are probably the last thing to worry about when it's slow on aw, but i appreciate you have a different set of circumstances to me. I hope it picks up for you x
Yes I took ur advice although now and then I lowered when It was slow .Something is better then nothing.Lately I ve seen some of my fellow easterns charging 1.5 and over and that is a good thing I say.I agree with u,what it is now has nothing to do with rates.It has to pick up,what scared me is that this time wasnt just about a bad week,its been over a month and I really need it to pick up for a few months so I can retire.I sound like an old lady,retiring lol.
Is good to have u here for support,thanks girls x
AlexisSugar
09-24-2014, 10:47 AM
Hey seciento, am eastern too and aw is my mine site.Just keep in mind it is not important from where you come from ,but what is your hustle,do you talk or just type and what are your boundaries,If you provide a quality show you don't have to worry about your residence.I charge 2 for grp,4 for pvt and still doing good on aw.Fingers crossed for higher traffic :)
seicento
09-24-2014, 11:27 AM
Hey seciento, am eastern too and aw is my mine site.Just keep in mind it is not important from where you come from ,but what is your hustle,do you talk or just type and what are your boundaries,If you provide a quality show you don't have to worry about your residence.I charge 2 for grp,4 for pvt and still doing good on aw.Fingers crossed for higher traffic :)
Hey nice to see another eastern here and congrats for being able to charge those rates.I never made it at over 2 a min .As for my shows,with a few hundred feedbacks and all positive, most of them from last year since I started to cam regularily I think I provide a good show.I type and talk.Boundaries are many right now,used to offer more but my offer is limited lately as I stopped doing what Im not comfortable with and we all know british guys are a bit kinky x
scarletl
09-24-2014, 12:12 PM
Suzy is correct. No matter what you charge on AW, when it's quiet then it's quiet. The problem is all cam sites are suffering this month, it notices allot more on AW purely because they are not a big or popular site even when times are good for all the camming sites.
seicento
09-24-2014, 01:05 PM
Do u girls use the live thumbnail option for free chat/group ?Wonder if it is helping .I would not be comfortable to use it for group but maybe for when I` m in free chat.
Classy_Katy
09-24-2014, 01:27 PM
I don't use the live thumbnails because I see so many broken images when I look...also I don't want to be caught mid blink or yawn or something!
seicento
09-24-2014, 01:38 PM
I don't use the live thumbnails because I see so many broken images when I look...also I don't want to be caught mid blink or yawn or something!
U are right ,I was yawning for the past 15 mins so I better yawn in privacy lol
Missymissdemeanour
09-24-2014, 01:38 PM
I use the live thumbs for group shows and find I do get more guys joining sometimes but not always. I think it depends what I am doing during the show :) Oh and I have just stopped using freechat too. I used to get bored without freechat but these days I quite often found myself sitting in an empty room or just having one or two guys so I figured it can't be any worse without it! lol Upping my prices a little has helped. Still not massively busy but I do think changes can make a difference sometimes.
seicento
09-24-2014, 01:57 PM
Changes...I changed my hair today lol I`m afraid to change my price too.I do free chat for the same reason ,I get bored and I used to get more pvts when doing free chat .I got like 30 guys entering my free chat in the first hour and then it slowed down, not even one said hi and left in a second ,im not sure if they even saw me,no interraction .I asked a friend to check my room ,cam loading fast,same video like usual .Looks like tonight aint any better.
Missymissdemeanour
09-24-2014, 03:50 PM
Nope tonight is shite again lol. Probably made it worse for me as I was looking back over my figures comparing this month so far to the same period in previous years here's what I found:
2014 - 349
2013 - 249
2012 - 534
2011 - 2097.00
2010 - 883
2009 - 464.00
2009 - 1007.00
Now these are just AW figures so do not inc other sites I work, and in sterling/GBP/£ and as we all say there is no ryhme or reason as to why they differ so much from one year to the next! Still looks like 2011 was my best ever year as every month had similar figures!
Juliette25
09-24-2014, 10:28 PM
I've searched with no luck. Does anyone know if you can look up a member by their username in order to send them an email. I've tried several times over the years using the search functions and have never been able to. I need to contact a member.
Classy_Katy
09-24-2014, 11:08 PM
I've searched with no luck. Does anyone know if you can look up a member by their username in order to send them an email. I've tried several times over the years using the search functions and have never been able to. I need to contact a member.
They don't make it easy because the guys can get spammed. You might find them by doing a client search in client connections, I'm not sure if you can email them once you find their profile, probably not. If they made a webcam booking with you, you can email them from the booking screen. I've put a notice on my profile page before when I needed a customer to get in contact with me, it didn't work but at least I tried!
Classy_Katy
09-26-2014, 07:32 AM
Today looked busy (11am to 2.30pm)...I only had 3 shows (thankfully decent ones)...there were A LOT of new, UK girls online.
sexysusie
09-26-2014, 07:53 AM
Last few days there were over 400 on in the day eek!
scarletl
09-26-2014, 07:59 AM
At the moment 411 and 21 in group and 28 in PVT. Not bad numbers actually considering this last week.
Hats off to the girl charging 8 creds a minute for PVT lol
beauvoir
09-26-2014, 08:19 AM
I am done giving advice to newbies.
scarletl
09-26-2014, 08:32 AM
I am done giving advice to newbies.
Newbie cam girls or Newbie guys?
MiaFaye
09-26-2014, 03:35 PM
Gonna give adultwork a go, since streamate is completely dead for me... What sort of things do you ladies put on your profiles? I'm really struggling to come up with anything that doesn't sound ridiculous...
sexysusie
09-26-2014, 03:42 PM
Most guys don't read them so pretty much whatever you want :p just start camming there and see how you go then modify your profile as you go along. Mine changes weekly and gives an idea of what I offer, what I'm good at, what they might like about me, and anything I want to emphasise like current sales.
Beauvoir people never listen. They do their own thing and find their own way. I'm a glutton for punishment though and keep telling them anyway :D
beauvoir
09-26-2014, 03:56 PM
I am going to try and get some cheap featuring.
It happens at midnight every night?
sexysusie
09-26-2014, 03:58 PM
Yep that's when it's £3 x
beauvoir
09-26-2014, 04:00 PM
They're all full price... Cheapest is 9.70
sexysusie
09-26-2014, 08:54 PM
Theyre a month in advance. So at midnight it's £3 to be featured 28 - 31 days from now. Everything before then will be more expensive as people have already bid on those x
beauvoir
09-27-2014, 01:25 AM
but those dates weren't available to get!
Classy_Katy
09-27-2014, 02:04 AM
The furtherest away date is the most recently released and the cheapest.
MiaFaye
09-27-2014, 02:12 PM
I've paid for directcam positioning and am online, but can't seem to find myself anywhere in the listings? Is it because I'm logged in?
Edit: Never mind, I found myself :)
MiaFaye
10-01-2014, 01:30 AM
How are AW about putting your amazon wishlist in the 'links' section of your profile? If they don't like it, do you think I could get away with just writing something like "Search Mia Faye on amazon to find my wishlist" on my profile?
SimoneGray
10-01-2014, 01:33 AM
^^ They have their own shop from which you can create a wishlist. The stuff in there is pretty good.
I need to get back here...took time off because I needed the weekly pay of SM, but now I need to come back and be consistent here, seems there is money to be made again.
MiaFaye
10-01-2014, 01:51 AM
^^ They have their own shop from which you can create a wishlist. The stuff in there is pretty good.
I need to get back here...took time off because I needed the weekly pay of SM, but now I need to come back and be consistent here, seems there is money to be made again.
I know :) But there's quite a few things on amazon that i'm wanting to get. Seems like AW only really have lingerie and toys- I prefer to buy lingerie myself because I have some weird sizings!
SimoneGray
10-01-2014, 02:04 AM
What you can do is advertise your wishlist on Twitter and then get your custies to go from there. As far as I know you can't put any external links on your AW profile else they'll shut your acc down or something. So what I do in my paid chat is I verbally advertise my twitter and wishlist and so far that has worked for me. So try that maybe?
Classy_Katy
10-01-2014, 02:28 AM
This help article explains how to link Twitter and Adultwork together and what you have to do for the link to show.
http://www.adultwork.com/dlgKBArticle.asp?TargetURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eadul twork%2Ecom%2FdlgKBSearchResults%2Easp%3FCommandID %3D1%26Q%3Dtwitter%26T%3D1%26TargetURL%3Dhttp%253A %252F%252Fwww%252Eadultwork%252Ecom%252FdlgFAQsNew %252Easp&T=1&Q=twitter&ArticleID=645
To directly link your Amazon wishlist you would need a link back to Adultwork but I expect they would see Amazon as a competitor because they already have a sale section, and not allow it. If you put another on your profile directing people to another site, expect it to be closed down. I would contact them first.