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sexysusie
09-21-2015, 12:11 PM
I realise that this may just be guys being cheapos, but HEADS UP - two custies in Free today (At different times) said they were unable to load money onto the site/purchase credits.

I would not be surprised if they're telling the truth. So many issues on AW right now.

Horny
09-21-2015, 12:24 PM
I have heard the same thing loads were getting chucked out of group on mine this morning SOOOOO annoying. It's steady tonight but then I've put my prices up and haven't done nights for a while so will have to play it by war and see I guess

Kinkybitch
09-21-2015, 12:30 PM
It is so quiet for me lately I've joined SM and having to make my goal through there instead. Hoping it improves for me.

Horny
09-21-2015, 12:41 PM
I don't really feel comfortable with SM I'm so used to AW how you finding it?

Kinkybitch
09-21-2015, 02:00 PM
SM isn't too bad tbh. It's my 2nd time on there and I feel a lot more relaxed than I did before. I make about $40 an hour sometimes more but I don't spend long on there. Free chat is ok but I couldn't imagine doing it for hours and hours on end.

Horny
09-21-2015, 02:03 PM
That's a lot better than Aw I've been on twice today and only made £63! It's quiet but free chat is busy but no ones spending. I haven't stayed on very later as one of the kids woke up but still it's junk. Going to have a couple of hours on SM tomorrow and see how I get on.

Kinkybitch
09-21-2015, 02:22 PM
I've made £40 today on AW and I worked 2 hours today on SM and made $70. I used to make well over £100 a day on AW but not the case anymore :(

kinkydirtybitch
09-22-2015, 03:37 AM
I've made £40 today on AW and I worked 2 hours today on SM and made $70. I used to make well over £100 a day on AW but not the case anymore :(

I'm actually in LA right now & the time difference is awesome as the perverts on AW are in the UK.

I see you like my name.

kinkydirtybitch
09-22-2015, 04:02 AM
I've noticed there's a few webcam girls using fake pictures on their profiles. Not sure what the point is because once a guy goes pvt they will know it's not the same person surely???

Annoying isn't it?

A bit like when girls blatantly copy others' names.

CamgirlScotland
09-22-2015, 04:24 AM
Oh snap

seicento
09-22-2015, 04:46 AM
LOL,drama

Horny
09-22-2015, 04:47 AM
Quiet morning again but one nice regular quite a few in free but no one much seems to be buying which is annoying! I'm trying to make myself go on daily and at the same time lets hope pay day is coming and things will pick up!

Kinkybitch
09-22-2015, 05:56 AM
AW not been too bad for me today. Now SM been crap. Swings and roundabouts I guess.

CamgirlScotland
09-22-2015, 06:20 AM
42674

Anyone else just received one of these? I just logged into my account and it's all fine

CamgirlScotland
09-22-2015, 06:22 AM
It sends you to a website which looks like Adultwork but a different URL. And the email address it came from is dodgy. Just a heads up for others.

Kinkybitch
09-22-2015, 07:06 AM
Annoying isn't it?

A bit like when girls blatantly copy others' names.

Seriously get over yourself I don't even copy anyone and wasn't aware of your name when I joined a couple of years ago. Why would I bother posting and asking for help from others if I was going to copy. Jesus ill change my name if need be but if you look I don't use it on any cam sites so don't get funny with me over something completely innocent!

tropo
09-22-2015, 08:44 AM
I don't really feel comfortable with SM I'm so used to AW how you finding it?

SM and AW are very easy to run at the same time. I've found, after many months of experimenting, that I don't seem to get more privates when free chat is enabled, so I let AW run in the background in "private only mode" and focus on free chat on SM. You have a 10 minute break button on SM (you have to ask support to enable it), so you don't have to log out of SM to do privates on AW.

I actually run 5 sites at the same time LOL.

Kinkybitch
09-22-2015, 08:54 AM
Wow I only manage to run 3 sites at the moment. Didn't know about the break button though. It's a pain having to log out all the time. Are most of your 5 sites free chat? I run AW, SM and IMlive as I couldn't imagine having loads of free chat sites going at once my brain wouldn't take it lol.

kinkydirtybitch
09-23-2015, 06:41 AM
They all cry innocent when they get called out.
Seriously get over yourself I don't even copy anyone and wasn't aware of your name when I joined a couple of years ago. Why would I bother posting and asking for help from others if I was going to copy. Jesus ill change my name if need be but if you look I don't use it on any cam sites so don't get funny with me over something completely innocent!

Kinkybitch
09-23-2015, 06:51 AM
I'm not crying innocent at all. It's a name on a forum. You need to grow up!

MessyChick
09-25-2015, 03:47 PM
ladies.... views on paying for positioning for say an 8hr shift vs paying for featuring?

next week im setting myself the challenge to not be lazy, make no excuses and literally work my ass off. Featuring for fri and sat is currently at about £12 ish which if i worked 8hrs+ i could easily spend on positioning, assuming i paid for each hour i work

sexysusie
09-25-2015, 04:57 PM
they are different things entirely. Guys tend to look at the online now pages which means positioning will be more useful than featuring. However featuring encourages more gallery subscriptions and video sales in my experience (*Tip - buy featuring at midnight when it is £3!). To be honest i get the same amount of directcam business whether I position or not.

MessyChick
09-25-2015, 05:44 PM
i did find that I wasnt losing anything when i stopped paying for positioning tbh, but i thought it was a fluke......

how long is it £3 for?

sexysusie
09-25-2015, 05:45 PM
24 hours, same as it always is. It starts at £3 at midnight and goes up after that depending on how many people are buying. That's for featuring. Positioning is hourly and can be any amount from 0.50.

Classy_Katy
09-26-2015, 12:44 AM
i did find that I wasnt losing anything when i stopped paying for positioning tbh, but i thought it was a fluke......

how long is it £3 for?

Nano seconds! You need a fast computer and to be constantly refreshing your screen from 11.59pm.

tropo
09-26-2015, 08:15 AM
Wow I only manage to run 3 sites at the moment. Didn't know about the break button though. It's a pain having to log out all the time. Are most of your 5 sites free chat? I run AW, SM and IMlive as I couldn't imagine having loads of free chat sites going at once my brain wouldn't take it lol.

You get used to it. 2 of the sites have a "nude chat" feature so I can switch of free chat if need be. One of the sites is a free token site (Chaturbate). Occasionally I can get privates in 3 at the same time. I don't think anyone knows about the break feature on SM unless you read about it on this forum. It allows 10 minutes and you can click it again and again.

tropo
09-26-2015, 08:18 AM
To be honest i get the same amount of directcam business whether I position or not.

I came to the same conclusion. I have experimented a lot with paying for positioning and it never seemed to make any difference.

Kinkybitch
09-27-2015, 05:23 AM
Getting so bad now I'm having days where I'm making zero on AW! A girl I know keeps telling me I should reduce my prices. I'm seeing people drop their prices by half and that's something I don't want to do really but no matter what updating, picture changes etc I'm just not making much. Is camming dying a slow death or is camming just not for me anymore :(

CatBBW
09-27-2015, 05:28 AM
Getting so bad now I'm having days where I'm making zero on AW! A girl I know keeps telling me I should reduce my prices. I'm seeing people drop their prices by half and that's something I don't want to do really but no matter what updating, picture changes etc I'm just not making much. Is camming dying a slow death or is camming just not for me anymore :(

It's AW. I went weeks earlier this year making literally pennies, it was fucking awful. I tried everything INCLUDING raising AND dropping my prices but it made no difference. The only thing I can suggest is try a different site. If they're not spending on AW then they might be spending elsewhere.

ALSO it's the rugby world cup *stifles yawn*, so that might be impacting.

Kinkybitch
09-27-2015, 05:32 AM
Thing I struggle with is I have children so adultwork is easier for me as no free chat. I can't do free chat at the weekends because of my children. Im going to stick with my prices and not be made to feel I'm not worth it. Just so frustrating!

Classy_Katy
09-27-2015, 06:07 AM
When you change your prices, you just change your customers. Whenever I have made a big change it has been good for a month and then gone back to normal. Charge a price that you feel comfortable with...being in a good place within yourself is the best thing you can do. I was doing very well on cam when I was on my juice fast last year (Joe Cross' reboot juice diet)...I felt amazing, had lots of energy and I was losing weight fast...I need to get doing it again.

sexysusie
09-27-2015, 06:13 AM
It really pains me to hear girls talk about dropping their rates :( As I and countless others have said so many times before, this will NOT help you make more money. It's possible you have seen a certain lady on AW who charges .99 and 1.99 and who is successful. You're probably thinking to yourself 'well that's clearly what I need to do then, charge less'. Well let me tell you something - that certain lady is NOT busy because she charges so little (painfully little). Take a look at her twitter, at her frequent profile updates - she WORKS like a biatch, making content, offering new things to keep her customers inetrested, working with other ladies, attending public events, promoting herself tirelessly. So I repeat, she is NOT busy because of her rates, she is busy because of how she markets, how much time she puts in, her ingenuity in keeping guys interested, and her visibility on the site and outside of it.

There is another very well known lady who is on all the time who charges 2.50/3.50. She spends the same amount of time in paid chat as the first lady. Obviously i cannot speak for their shows, but the only obvious difference between them is their rates. I and many others also charge 2.50/3.50+. Personally I don't think any lady should be charging less than £3 for private, but that's not my point in this post. My point is that rates are NOT what determines how busy you will be on AW.

If you're on the AW forum you'll know i've talked a lot more about this there in the private section, but here's what I'd recommend for now - don't lower your rates, RAISE THEM! At least 50p to £1 for both group and private. Add some new pictures, change up your profile to ACCURATELY reflect your persona, add some special offers, fill your store section with things for sale, add to your gallery and videos, feature your gallery or sale items (or both), add a featured blog, tweet out some sexy pictures watermarked with your AW profile url and say you've got loads of new things for them to see, open a free blog and fill it with posts populated with keywords and teasing pictures (all with your AW url), set it to auto tweet every time you make a new post.

After you've done all this, log in and just leave directcam open and your webcam/ phone chat status on while you go off and do other things. Do not sit there and stare at the screen wondering why you're not getting customers now, now, now. Do not look at other girls. Just go about your daily life but keep JCI open and your status on. If you make clips, film them while you're in TV show/ voyuer mode and advertise it on your profile.

Good luck! x

Kinkybitch
09-27-2015, 06:13 AM
I guess feeling confident in yourself is the key. I charge high prices but why shouldn't I? I was doing ok and making my goal each day but this has changed over the last week. Whereas it was one day I made little before I've had a row of shit days this week.

sexysusie
09-27-2015, 06:16 AM
Also, add some erotica, and a free intro video (guys can't alway view the one on our profiles so it helps to have one in your video gallery too). Yes confidence is key (at least once they're in your room or reading your profile/ twitter etc).

Kinkybitch
09-27-2015, 06:19 AM
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sexysusie
09-27-2015, 06:24 AM
I doubt they are working 10 times more than you. As I said you don't get more traffic from being cheaper (see CatBBW's post above which is spot on). Don't use twitter if you're really not comfortable with it, but you DO need to do outside advertising if you want to stay in business, you can't just rely on the AW footfall. A blog, social media, watermarking all pics and videos with your cam room url, and reaching out to potential customers off site is necessary x

Kinkybitch
09-27-2015, 06:29 AM
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tropo
09-27-2015, 06:40 AM
I doubt they are working 10 times more than you. As I said you don't get more traffic from being cheaper (see CatBBW's post above which is spot on). Don't use twitter if you're really not comfortable with it, but you DO need to do outside advertising if you want to stay in business, you can't just rely on the AW footfall. A blog, social media, watermarking all pics and videos with your cam room url, and reaching out to potential customers off site is necessary x

It's not easy to compare one model with another, but cheap (& good) models are likely to be busier in terms of minutes in private compared with models with much higher rates BUT how much they make at the end of the day is the important factor. Rather than the expensive models lowering their prices, the cheap models should raise theirs.

As I work on 5 different sites, I've experimented a lot with rates. I make more money with higher rates, but generally that means less minutes in private except on very good nights. The potential for making money is higher with higher rates. At the very least, I make the same money with far less effort. Sometimes this can require quite a bit of patience.

Some sites just don't work with higher rates. One of the sites I work on has gone totally dead on me because I charge double what nearly all of the other girls charge. We're lucky on AW because there is such a variety of rates that girls charge that guys are probably not focusing on the price as much.

sexysusie
09-27-2015, 06:45 AM
A lot of girls don't market themselves very well as they rely (dangerously so) on their regulars. But if you want to keep making new customers (and thereby new regulars) you need to everything you can to keep yourself visible. this is far more important now and for any girls who joined AW from mid 2013 onwards as since then there has been the biggest influx of new girls and it is only set to get harder. In a tough market you need to work your ass off, and most of that work is not actually on cam, but behind the scenes.


I make more money with higher rates, but generally that means less minutes in private except on very good nights. The potential for making money is higher with higher rates. At the very least, I make the same money with far less effort.

This ^^ I average 30 - 40 minutes in paid, though with regulars it can be over an hour, and on particularly slow nights could be 10 minutes. If it's one of those times I'm still making 35 whereas the girl at 1.99 is working twice as long for the same money, and cutting down the time she has to spend making clips/ splitcamming, or doing skypes.

tropo
09-27-2015, 07:05 AM
A lot of girls don't market themselves very well as they rely (dangerously so) on their regulars. But if you want to keep making new customers (and thereby new regulars) you need to everything you can to keep yourself visible. this is far more important now and for any girls who joined AW from mid 2013 onwards as since then there has been the biggest influx of new girls and it is only set to get harder. In a tough market you need to work your ass off, and most of that work is not actually on cam, but behind the scenes.

I don't market myself at all - 3 low definition photos on AW - that's it! I don't sell anything or update profiles or do anything behind the scenes... I just get on the cam and work. My hard work goes into looking as good and as happy as possible while on cam. Fake smiling for 10 hours straight is hard work LOL.

I don't want videos and photos of me flooding the web and my family finding out. Each to their own. I still make a good living BUT have to cam to 5 sites at once to make it. AW makes up a portion of my daily earnings - sometimes it's really good, other times it sucks. It didn't used to be like this as once upon a time I could make a good living on only 1 site.

I just wanted to tell my story, so girls know you can still make a living without going full out and promoting yourself. No doubt with all the promotion I would do better, but I'm reasonably satisfied with my income as it stands. Things always change though, and one day in the future I may have to do something different to survive. All the freely available porn on the web is eating into our bottom line.

sexysusie
09-27-2015, 07:07 AM
Free porn doesn't affect camming at all. There isn't a single guy alive who doesn't know free porn exists. they come to camgirls for personal interaction x

tropo
09-27-2015, 07:13 AM
Free porn doesn't affect camming at all. There isn't a single guy alive who doesn't know free porn exists. they come to camgirls for personal interaction x

I very strongly disagree with you there. The days before MFC and now CB were much better than they are now - I started camming in 2005 before free token sites. You heard of "video killed the radio star", well, free token sites are slowly killing the camming star. CB is already the most viewed camming site on the web and climbing by the day. MFC not too far behind.

It's not that guys don't know of the free porn, it's just that it is more readily available, and more so each and every year.

sexysusie
09-27-2015, 07:26 AM
You are talking about free chat CAMSITES not free porn which is what I thought you meant. I do think there is some affect from these sites yes, how could there not be? but I don't believe it's the biggest factor (for SM probably yes as it is such a similar business model). Rather the massive downtime from the DOS attack last year (or was it the year before, can't remember), all the tech issues, and lack of advertising to bring in new customers.

Something else I forgot to mention above - those that have selected to only allow age verified customers will no doubt be getting less business than before. This was discussed at length when it happened but many may have forgotten or joined afterwards.

tropo
09-27-2015, 07:47 AM
You are talking about free chat CAMSITES not free porn which is what I thought you meant. I do think there is some affect from these sites yes, how could there not be? but I don't believe it's the biggest factor (for SM probably yes as it is such a similar business model). Rather the massive downtime from the DOS attack last year (or was it the year before, can't remember), all the tech issues, and lack of advertising to bring in new customers.

Something else I forgot to mention above - those that have selected to only allow age verified customers will no doubt be getting less business than before. This was discussed at length when it happened but many may have forgotten or joined afterwards.

Is this in relation to direct cam? I didn't even know there was such a selection - will have to check into it - in my profile?

Edit: Just found it under "other settings". It was unchecked, but never gave it a second thought.,,

CatBBW
09-27-2015, 07:52 AM
Is this in relation to direct cam? I didn't even know there was such a selection - will have to check into it - in my profile?

Click as though you were going to edit your profile. Under the GENERAL tab you will see a ticky box "Consumer AV Required: VOD (Movies & DirectCam)" - if that box is ticked you will be getting less viewers. That's how I understand it anyway.

sexysusie
09-27-2015, 07:58 AM
My details > edit profile > profile details
http://i.imgur.com/YOuiyrt.jpg

It's to allow UK providers to comply with ATVOD in regards to VOD however it also includes webcam. When ticked it stops your profile being visible to anyone not age verified with a credit card or through their 18+ mobile verification.

belleoftheball2
09-27-2015, 08:59 AM
I'm a non UK girl (American) and I find my time on AW very hot and cold. Not sure if UK gals do better due to the fantasy that maybe one day you would meet, or just that you sound the same as UK guys, but I've definitely struggled to establish myself on AW these past few months.

I always put myself in free chat, have experimented with positioning, updated profile and pictures etc. Only thing I haven't focused on is bringing in new customers (I work primarily on other sites so it isn't a priority to bring them to AW).

That being said, I charge 3 credits for private and whenever I do get a long one all this effort pays off with their amazing payout percentage. While it'd be nice if they bumped up their marketing budget, I wouldn't want the money for that to come out of my pay.

seicento
09-27-2015, 11:41 AM
I used to work AW only.For years I just couldn't adapt working on another site(s),I was comfortable with AW only.When my earnings dropped badly I had to add another site.And soon will add another and so on,if needed.So if you feel like AW is dieing just add another site and build your fan base there because you can't always bank from the day you joined.It will add up and these days when AW is being dead will not make you feel so desperate.I used to be so frustrated in bad days/weeks/months ,when all I had to do was to add more eggs.Things are still not great but I have less reasons to worry and be frustrated.AW is not the way it used to be so we need to adapt.IMO it became that it can't be used anymore as a main site.At least not for me.

Horny
09-29-2015, 02:48 AM
How's everyone finding things it has to be pay time now doesn't it?

sexysusie
09-29-2015, 07:50 AM
Some of you ladies could really do with reading this https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?203577-Just-a-little-rant-(Don-t-hate-me)
there is also https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?171278-The-General-Purpose-quot-Camming-Sucks-Right-Now-quot-Thread for those times when you really need to vent

It's depressing to read it all in the dedicated site threads x