View Full Version : I need girls. No, really. I SERIOUSLY do. Badly!
noelle
06-29-2011, 06:00 PM
I appreciate you posting that but I guarantee that myself and hundreds of other strippers HAVE been arrested for giving lapdances while wearing opaque bikinis! That mentions nothing about the 4 foot ordinance. If you come within 4 feet of a customer while giving a dance, you can be arrested.
Yes they don't take you to jail on the spot as often anymore, but you are still technically under arrest, and being mailed a violation doesn't change that it's a misdemeanor.
Mediocrity, I am definitely not trying to insult you. I know you don't want to put a girl into a situation where she might get busted. But regardless if you haven't seen a bust yet, you WILL see one and nothing you can do will guarantee that a dancer you brought in would not get arrested.
Honestly I find it insulting that I am just being honest about my experience and you're saying dancers are fine as long as they are wearing an opaque bikini. That simply isn't true unless they stay 4 feet away at all times, and I have NEVER seen a dance like that in Seattle.
mediocrity
07-01-2011, 03:08 PM
^^ I've been in raids before in LV, and ATL. I am not naive to the fact that they do happen, can be frightening, and leave a lasting impression. However I do know we have just undergone a massive amount of changes in the last year. The police have been in our club, as well as several of the others recently and it was uneventful at best. Two girls got citations but they were blatantly not following the rules (flashing, smashing bare boobs on customers' faces etc)
In New Orleans the police used to come into my club regularly, therefore I don't fear police presence. I was also there the night 16 SR girls in LV were taken to jail, in their stripper clothes. Part of the reason we have such a defecit of girls at all the clubs in the region, is everyone is still scared from past events. We are working hard to change that image, and even harder to make things safe for the girls. We have a safety committee which meets several times a month to discuss any problems and come up with viable solutions for any problems at hand.
As far as the new club opening up on the North side, I'm not worried about it at all. It's run by associates of the same people who ran Rick's etc so they will likely garner the same type of clientele. There's some other things going on I wish I could talk about right now that are VERY exciting, and positive for the Seattle scene that I am anticipating with have a much greater impact than that club.
It's been almost a year since I danced, but the memories (good and bad) are still very fresh in my mind. I think it's understandable girls in the area are skittish still - were I still dancing, I would be hesitant to work in LV again because of all the hardship and experiences I had there. But I would like to impress upon several points:
A) Everyone's experience is different. I hated Las Vegas, a lot of girls love(d) it and worked there with no problem. Some girls got citations, others didn't. Some were harassed by management, others weren't.
B) The girls' safety, particularly SW members is my #1 priority. I am willing to open my home to traveling girls (and one has already decided to take me up on it) and want them to make money with the least amount of hassle possible. Matter of fact, I want them to make EASY money. If I genuinely believed this club were unsafe I wouldn't be broadcasting it. Were I not retired, I'd dance here myself.
C) Which brings me to my third point, which is a lot of my girls are LAZY, capital L. The money the are making with the lackadaisical attitude they are currently employing is fairly impressive, and the ones my MOTIVATED girls are making is even better. Half of them I want to hold down, brush their hair and pluck their eyebrows. If I had even 50% of them on par with our top 10%, I can't imagine how awesome it would be. :)
D) I don't believe in skewing numbers, over exaggerating, or giving out bad information. Last thing I want is for a girl to come out here and go broke, or go to jail. In this business, honesty is the best policy, although it isn't the one most often employed. Fact of the matter is, this is the internet. A lot of girls here know me in person, but a lot of you don't. You're entitled to feel as skeptical as you want.
E) I try to be pragmatic about everything. It's way easier and more efficient than being emotional about things. I also have no emotional ties to anything here, so have no reason to be anything other than pragmatic. ALSO- I don't get a recruiting bonus or any commission or kick back of any sort for bringing girls in. The only reason I posted this was to offer opportunity to anyone who wants and/or needs it.
Stripper Hacks
07-01-2011, 05:47 PM
Two girls got citations but they were blatantly not following the rules (flashing, smashing bare boobs on customers' faces etc)
Vice must really be cracking down then normally I don't think they would bother with something so minor.
Not to mention there is probably going to be yet ANOTHER Deja Vu opening in the area soon.
The customers that I spoke with don't seem thrilled by this. Neither are most of the dancers. No one is jumping for joy saying "Oh boy a new club". It's more like "Greeeeeeat ANOTHER Deja Vu".
Same thing when the club by the stadium opened, which I hear is not doing so well lately. People were not very enthusiastic about it.
I'm sure you are being as honest as possible but I don't feel that you are giving people the full scope of the situation up here. I was told there was a raid at one of the Vu's recently and a lot of girls have packed up and left because it's not worth the risk for such little pay out.
Some customers and dancers feel that Vu is just mucking up the industry in Seattle and people are kinda over the place.
At the moment there is not a single club I could recommend for anyone to come from out of state to work in. In a few months there might be some options but the politics in the area are just too risky.
Seattle is my home and I know the industry up here. That is why I stay.
mediocrity
07-15-2011, 04:11 PM
Just posting to say I have several SW girls working at my club now and they are all quite pleased. More coming into town in the next few weeks as well. :) Thanks for your help so far ladies- and we can always use more, both at my club as well as my husband's!
We have also had several people go check out Pandora, the new club in Lake City. Not only was their grand opening a bust, but a few girls I know who worked the night of the grand opening said they are operating it like a ho house. Also- it's in an old chinese food restaurant, and they were planning a pig roast to kick it off. I don't know why but to me- that's gross.
I'm waiting for the go ahead to share some other great news. Just keeping everyone updated and again- thanks to those ladies who are working with me already!!
Stripper Hacks
07-18-2011, 10:21 AM
they are operating it like a ho house.
Comments you made about your club:
I'm not going to lie and say that there aren't a few dirty girls, because there are- probably 4-5 of them on the roster
So your ho house that you run is not actually a ho house but other places are? It's typical for Vu management to discourage girls to work at other clubs by saying "You don't want to work there that place is really dirty." Vu acts like the angels of the entire industry and I don't believe that to be true especially in Seattle.
I also find the term "ho house" rather degrading and sexist. This is your quote as a manager. The sentiment is that you either work for Vu or you're a prostitute. Dancers in Seattle need options. DV in my opinion and experience is standing in the way of that by monopolizing, intimidating, defaming, terrorizing and even playing dancer against dancer in the Seattle industry.
It's run by associates of the same people who ran Rick's etc so they will likely garner the same type of clientele.
You do not want Rick's, Honey's, Fox's, Sugar's, Dancing Bare, Sand's and Centerfolds, or any Vu clientele to go to your club?
Some of those clients were probably Rick's customers at one point in time.
my district manager does keep up good relations with the local police, not in the paying off scumbag way the Colacurico (sp?) family did
Are you claiming that SPD and vice have accepted bribes in the past?
Seriously these comments are 100% unprofessional.
FYI I do not work for any club. You have already brought up that you are an employee for a corporate club and you're dissing a lot of people in the process.
They have a term for that in business and it's called being cut throat.
A lot of dancers and customers have the same opinions about the corporation so it's not anything new here on SW.
I'm highly opinionated on the subject because I do not feel people are getting the full story about the club you work for or what it is like to dance in Seattle.
Mcsf00
07-18-2011, 11:56 PM
I am still interested! I would just like a little more info the questions and info are great thanks *thumbs up*
tempest666
07-19-2011, 07:38 PM
Well I had to troll the posts. Main things I'm concerned about is no Mexicans and tatted and pierced friendly. Seems it meets both. My club is taking a hit due to construction so I'm gonna look into this....maybe take a buddy with me. Nothing for sure but def merits consideration.
Athenathefabulous
07-19-2011, 08:13 PM
At this point, I think everyone who has something negative to say about Seattle has made their point and it's gotten to the point where you're basically trolling Mediocrity and saying the same shit over and over.
Aside from that... the people who have negative things to say have very different stories... one of you claims dancing withint 4 feet of a guy in an opaque bikini will get you arrested... the other seems surprised that girls would get in trouble for rubbing their tits on someone's face.
We all get it. There's a chance of being arrested for 'standard' practices... we don't need to sit here and nit pick and accuse people of trying to mislead other girls.
Stripper Hacks - If you really wanted people to have an idea what it was like to work in Seattle... you wouldn't be picking through her posts, taking things out of context, making stupid accusations and being ridiculous.
If you want people to know "how it is"... SAY how it is.
Although at this point... you've slung so much mud that I doubt most girls will bother to listen anymore.
More talk about club details, less drama pl0x.
i think offering both sides is important. and perspectives will always be different from manager vs. dancer, even if the manager is an ex dancer who likes to work at clean clubs etc.
Brandy_Rose
07-20-2011, 05:11 PM
[quote=mediocrity;2162693]Just posting to say I have several SW girls working at my club now and they are all quite pleased. More coming into town in the next few weeks as well. :) Thanks for your help so far ladies- and we can always use more, both at my club as well as my husband's!
Ok so I'm flying in on Sunday the 31st and I'm confused. You both run different clubs? I spoke with your husband and he said I could work at Little Darlings. Does that mean you do the hiring for Dream Girls?
Stripper Hacks
07-21-2011, 12:08 PM
My apologies to the forum but I stand by my original statement that I could not just sit here and not say anything.
I thought SW is supposed to be a safe place so dancers could get together without being hustled by the clubs.
There needs to be more transparency on this issue as other have mentioned what it's actually like to dance in the Seattle area.
If you really wanted people to have an idea what it was like to work in Seattle... you wouldn't be picking through her posts
@DesuvsDeath Representing a company and making a public statement that a government agency is being payed off by a strip club owner is a serious accusation. That could be considered libel or defamation if it is not a true statement. So it makes me wonder if the club managers are privy to information that others should know about.
As I mentioned I don't represent any club. To listen to a club representative talk about how lazy their dancers are and how other owners are allegedly running brothels shouldn't sit well with any of us here.
As far as mudslinging goes it's going both ways.
My other original statement is that I don't feel people are getting the full story.
@Mediocrity don't take it personally because I know you are being paid to do your job.
@Tempest666 Washington state has a large Mexican population and they generally come into town on the weekends and go to the clubs. There is also a prominent Indian population that frequent the clubs as well.
If you want people to know "how it is"... SAY how it is.
I already have. It's hard working in Seattle because it is highly competitive and very few quality clubs to choose from.
4everresolutions
07-21-2011, 05:33 PM
@Mediocrity don't take it personally because I know you are being paid to do your job.
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WTF kind of an underhanded insult is this? We get it. You don't recommend Seattle for easy money or big money. You've said your piece. If you want to keep talking about how terrible Seattle is maybe you should make your own thread about it? Any girl who reads through this thread will see your previous 5+ posts about how terrible it is.
Mediocrity is a well-known and well-liked user on this site, and her dancing career has been well documented; along with the issues she had with it towards the end. I trust her judgement and trust that she wouldn't LIE about legality or the amount of money you can make at this club, because she's been put through the ringer as a stripper herself.
I hope someone who went to dance at her club for a while can chime in.
PERSONALLY If I were to go, it would be to take a day trip and drive to Forks (where the Twilight books are set, near Seattle) and do touristy shit. I'm so sad I can' go!!!!
miabella
07-21-2011, 10:33 PM
Forks is nowhere near Seattle. It's 100+ miles away (depends on whether you take a ferry for some of it or drive the entire way, which is pushing 200 miles). WA is a big state.
/offtopic.
4everresolutions
07-22-2011, 12:34 AM
Forks is nowhere near Seattle. It's 100+ miles away (depends on whether you take a ferry for some of it or drive the entire way, which is pushing 200 miles). WA is a big state.
/offtopic.
In the book it said it was a 4 hour drive, and 2 hours from Port Angeles. Is that correct?
tempest666
07-22-2011, 12:41 AM
Seattle is an awesome city regardless of whether I go to work or not....I dunno how I'm gonna time this :-/
Stripper Hacks
07-22-2011, 10:01 AM
@DesuvsDeath Well lets talk about the clubs then instead of an general view on Seattle. You can check out the reviews of Dream Girls and Little Darling's on stripclublist.com. You'll see there are only seven clubs in Seattle (Centerfolds, Dancing Bear, Sands and Pandora) and of the two mentioned they have lower ratings than the dive clubs.
Specifics on Dreamgirls and Little Darlins' is that they lost a lot of girls in the past five weeks. So the title of the post "Desperate for girls" I can believe it. I'm gonna guess that the defense is "they were dirty" but I see them as very clean dancers that are easy to get along with. I can name 9 girls in recent weeks that left DG and LD and are working in non Vu clubs. That is not counting the girls that I don't know about.
Two years ago there was a married couple (dancer and manager) that worked for Deja Vu. The wife got a job at one of the bigger clubs and started to underhandedly poach girls for the DG's and other Deja Vu's in the area.
It doesn't sound strange that women get used all the time to attract other women in the sex industry.
Also if you want to get into more specific about threads this thread should have been posted in Jobs instead.
@4everresolutions Mediocrity said she was going to feel insulted in a previous post. She should not take it personally because it's just business.
As others have mentioned you can get arrested on the spot just for saying the wrong thing no less. If they send out a ticket in the mail and you're in another state then you have to COME BACK TO SEATTLE FOR COURT. Not to mention the attorney will not fight the ticket (ask me how I know) but urge a girl to plead guilty in order to protect the club. Unless they are using a different attorney that is how it works.
Like I said SW deserves the truth. Normally I'm not so controversial but there is no way I can sit here and not say anything.
I'm sure some girls can make $1000 a night. Others will work 8 hours and make $200 before or after tip out.
Those that come to Seattle make sure you get two copies of your license so you can check out other clubs.
charlie61
07-22-2011, 09:13 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with Stripper Hacks sticking up for her truth? Free speech. I don't see anything offensive in what she's written. Seems like she has a very valid POV. It may not be true for everyone, but this board needs balance if it's going to be a useful resource.
charlie61
07-23-2011, 10:41 AM
To me it seems like the OP is all like "Puppies and rainbows!" and Stripper Hacks is just saying things that (let's be honest) are really important to know...like that women regularly get arrested for following the club's rules....which is a crucial thing to know, especially for strippers with professional exist strategies. No one wants that kind of charge on their record!
If I were in SH's position, I think I'd be equally vocal about my experience. Doesn't seem to be hurting anything.
mediocrity
07-24-2011, 04:47 AM
I'll write a comprehensive post tomorrow when I'm not on my phone, but I have to say two things:
a) One very well known SW member had a very lucrative night tonight. I am sure she will do a write up on her experience when she returns home. It's not $1k nights every night- I'm not saying that, but my club is very consistent and I have the numbers to prove it.
b) Stripper Hacks, I am NOT being paid any kick backs AND since I am training, I make $8.67 an hour til I'm promoted, not that it's any of your business. I posted this in good will for opportunity.
I am truly disappointed in how quickly you get turned on once you retire.
mediocrity
07-24-2011, 05:19 AM
And before I forget! Before anyone asks why I tolerate such long hours, low pay and promote for my club with no monetary return: it's because I care about my girls and am committed to making the industry BETTER. I'm not trying to be the patron saint of strippers, truly I'm not- but I wouldn't want anyone to go through what I did my last two years. The only way to ensure that doesn't happen is to be proactive in the industry.
I didn't choose this industry, but it certainly chose me. I never thought I'd ever be in the position I am now. But anything worth doing is worth doing WELL, and just because I'm not a stripper anymore, doesn't mean I don't want to do right by you.
Stripper Hacks
07-24-2011, 10:51 AM
I dont think Stripper Hacks is lying, but I do think she could tone it down a little because right now it seems like she just doesn't want any more girls on her turf.
I would love more girls to come to the Seattle
Working in Seattle is not something I can professionally recommend right now. Even when it was really good this is an "extras" city.
I'm used to working in clubs with 80' to 100 girls on the floor. It's not about my turf or competition. More girls means nothing to me.
It's about girls flying halfway across the country in hopes of "puppies and rainbows".
To some dancers competition is everything. Not to mention since the better clubs closed down a lot of dancers went on to escorting because they felt there was no good clubs to work at.
At the moment a lot of dancers are escorting/sugarbabes AND dancing so that means if they meet a customer in the club they are willing to meet them outside of the club as well. That translates to fewer customers.
Clubs by the stadiums should not have to market as hard as they do but they are struggling right now.
To get to $1000 a night consistently without doing extras in Seattle you need good regulars (usually extras are expected) or to be a damn good hustler.
Above lazy will not cut it.
mediocrity
07-24-2011, 07:19 PM
I never said $1k every night. Matter of fact, I definitely said "it's not $1k nights every night, but my club is consistent." If that was misinterpreted, I apologise. By consistent, I mean my girls are consistently making money.
If you are lazy, you can expect: $100-$200
Below average hustler: $100-$300
Average hustler: $300-$500
Excellent hustler: $500-$700
This is what my girls are making. I'll post a longer post later tonight.
mediocrity
07-25-2011, 01:00 AM
Ok, So now that I have a solid internet connection, I can write more.
Here's the nitty gritty.
The clientele is composed primarily of sports fans from the stadiums on game days, with some hispanic and indian guys mixed in. On off days, it's pretty blue collar with a smattering of whales... two of which I sold VIPs to on Friday night.
As far as the girls, I have a 70 girl roster composed of:
60% white girls
10% black girls (non-mixed)
10% Latinas
20% mixed girls or as my buddy Brandi_Lynn and I say, "ethnically ambiguous". :)
As far as "dirty".. it depends on the parameters of the club. Since we are a bikini dance club, if you flash your boobs here and there, I'd hardly brand you as a dirty girl. Now rubbing a dude's crotch over his pants, or flashing your pussy- yes, I'd brand you as a dirty girl. Do we fire girls on first offense? No. Those infractions are subject to reprimand for first or second offense. After that you will be subject to termination.
The statutes I posted are posted outside every club. As I said, we have a police presence, but it's hardly a malicious one. I know for a fact the two girls we have had get infractions were in fact, breaking the law.
Our district manager is an ex dancer, and she is amazing. She runs a very tight ship, and just acquired our club from another manager, who moved to Tacoma. She acquired our club because she wants to make a positive change for it- her other clubs are doing extremely well. However I will say she doesn't tolerate bullshit, and is still in the process of weeding out the bad apples.
In reference to girls getting termed, we have had around 7-8 girls recently terminated. They were all for legitimate reasons. One girl's dances literally made me sick to watch and she didn't obey the rules. Several others were termed for disruptive behaviour or drugs- which we deem a health hazard and do not tolerate. One or two were for extras. We do not term girls for anything unjustified and like to keep a healthy, supportive environment.
Brandi_Lynn has given me permission to post her takes for her four shifts. She found it initially difficult to sell dances because she was not used to hustling bikini dances as opposed to full nude dances. Her first night, she didn't make a profit due to the hustle difference. Management waived her house and fees. Her next three shifts she totaled about $1200; but she herself says she is very "in the middle" at her home club; hence an average hustler. I posted average hustlers can expect $300-$500 a shift, which has rung true in her experience. She has enjoyed her time here quite a bit. When the other girls working with me allow me to post their experience, I will do as such. I am sure Brandi will post her experience when she gets home. She still has two shifts to go.
In short, it's like any other club- has it's ups and downs. My home club, Pink Pony Atlanta, which I tout as utopia, is much the same. But the positives outweighed the negatives, and I can say the same for my club now. I believe in my club, which is a hard thing to say for someone who hated the industry for the last two years of my career. It's nice to once again find a love and faith in the business that I thought had left me.
If anyone would like further information, I would be open about giving out my home number, or the number of my district manager or her higher-up.
I hope this clears things up.
tempest666
07-25-2011, 01:07 AM
Hypothetically speaking is it an infraction if I yell "la migra la migra?" I got in trouble the other day for threatening to call immigration on a Mexican that grabbed my ass >:(
mediocrity
07-25-2011, 01:56 AM
^^ I love you Tempestt, and your trolling.
But no, you won't have to holler that, girl. :) PM me, and we'll talk.
infectiousDelirium
07-25-2011, 02:16 PM
I live in Portland Oregon and can totally work in Seattle.
Edit: I can bring friends too!
velvet
07-25-2011, 10:04 PM
After reading that, it seems like it might be worth a shot for some of you girls. Just keep in mind the small risk involved.
brabiedolleyes
07-26-2011, 10:08 AM
what do yall mean by high milage girl ? sry im new i have tats and piercings does that really affect where u can work ?
tempest666
07-26-2011, 08:50 PM
what do yall mean by high milage girl ? sry im new i have tats and piercings does that really affect where u can work ?
I am heavily tatted and while I don't know Seattle specifically at the "higher end" clubs usually they make you remove your piercings and slap on dermablend >:(
Other clubs abide by the "dollar bill" rule although I haven't heard of this test being used in ages.
kellyallstar
07-27-2011, 05:17 AM
There are so many girls who have piercings and tattoos and some big ass tats at that, even the waitresses.
sunnyskys
08-31-2011, 07:16 PM
It sounds like this club is a deja vu. I would caution any girls that are planning to travel to this club to do some research about deja vu before you travel. They are notoriously shady, terminate girls for no reason, and definitely don't make sure the local laws are enforced. I would never take a strip trip to a deja vu and I wouldn't recommend anyone else do so either.
Like someone else said, there is probably a reason they need girls. A few years ago my local 'vu fucked up and a lot of (good, clean, pretty) girls quit and went to another club. They were so desperate they flew girls in from other states to work there! And trust me, the money at that club at that time wasn't good, but I'm sure those girls were told differently.
So just watch out. I bet there is more to this story than just "all the local girls suck" or whatever.
Brandy_Rose
08-31-2011, 11:56 PM
I worked at this club last month. I flew to Seattle from Phoenix and worked three shifts their and made about $1500 working three seperate shifts. I loved the club! It is really nice looking and clean. The managment was great and made me feel very welcome. The girls were all nice and the customers were well behaved. Money was easy. Customers tipped me 3 out of 5 times. I did VIPs my first night no problem and at the end of each shift guys were lining up to get dances lol. I would go back ASAP if I didn't have school and my normal job. This is by far one of the best clubs I've worked at and I have worked in Japan, Guam and Canada and all over the US. I have been a dancer for over 10 years so when I say this is one of the best I have a whole lot of clubs to compare it too. If you have a great personality and are good looking you will do good.
michele11
09-01-2011, 07:01 AM
Good to hear a positive review from a girl whose actually worked there. What was the clientele like ( I prefer white collar) also I've worked for 3 deja vue clubs in 3 sepreate states and they were all nice clubs that offered good money potential..............and I definitely don't think med would be involved with a shady club.
ChasityDancer
09-01-2011, 10:08 AM
It sounds like this club is a deja vu. I would caution any girls that are planning to travel to this club to do some research about deja vu before you travel. They are notoriously shady, terminate girls for no reason, and definitely don't make sure the local laws are enforced. I would never take a strip trip to a deja vu and I wouldn't recommend anyone else do so either.
Like someone else said, there is probably a reason they need girls. A few years ago my local 'vu fucked up and a lot of (good, clean, pretty) girls quit and went to another club. They were so desperate they flew girls in from other states to work there! And trust me, the money at that club at that time wasn't good, but I'm sure those girls were told differently.
So just watch out. I bet there is more to this story than just "all the local girls suck" or whatever.
Since Hustler Club is affiliated with Deja Vu, I'd like to point out that a girl was fired from the Hustler Club just because she didn't dance on stage the way they felt she should. It seems like that's something they would have determined when they hired her as a result of her audition.
mediocrity
09-01-2011, 12:43 PM
Thanks for the great review, Brandy! I'm glad you did so well, and hope you'll be back again soon!
Seatortuga
09-01-2011, 01:04 PM
I wish I could go, I love to travel and see new places/clubs but I hung up the heels for a while. This club sounds like something I would like to try be cause you seem so genuine about your concern for your girls, Med.:-\
Mediocrity, what are the stages like? How many, what type of flooring do they have, and describe the poles if you have any. Thanks
Also, does you club have a website I could just check out?
mediocrity
09-01-2011, 01:29 PM
I PM'ed you. Due to the level of trolls etc lately, I thought that would be best.
We are still welcoming new faces at both mine and my husband's clubs. :)
Seatortuga
09-02-2011, 02:27 PM
Oh and btw, in case anyone is still anti DJV, keep in mind that it's a corporation and they are trying to create a monopoly on SCs in certain areas...so that means that they are buying out every club they can, both good and bad.
In my city there are a ton of clubs and all but 2 are DJV. One of the clubs in particular is extremely classy. The club is gorgeous and definitely caters to conservative businessmen. All of the girls are very small with a girl next door look. no heavy makeup, only lingerie is allowed, etc. Then there is another club that is the joke of the town. It's "where strippers go to die." Every girl there is hideous and fat (or so I've heard) and they just attack anyone who accidentally wanders in. Both are DJV. DJV does not have a particular image they are trying to promote, they just want any and all money.
Oh good....another company like PT's. Ugh
Athenathefabulous
09-02-2011, 07:22 PM
i cant believe girls on here are defending deja vu corp.
my main club is owned by Deja Vu and i like it and it is clean, but i would never defend the corporation. In the past i have stood up for girls who work there (some posters said only really stupid girls would work at a DjV club which i found true).
but regardless of how nice YOUR deja vu owned club is, you should be VERY concerned that they are monopolizing cities and driving out independent business. Moreover, if any indepenedent clubs do survive, you should probably be concerned that they are almost definitely dirty (it seems a lot of indie owned clubs need to be dirty to compete financially with deja vu).
just because your deja vu club is nice, doesnt mean having a huge corporation is good for the industry as a whole. My club is clean and safe, but it takes out ridiculous fees. and i have seen them fire girls for virtually no reason. whenever i let my mentality slide and think it is perfect there, i will see a manager do soemthing in the name of the all mighty Vu and remember that its not good for hte industry.
if deja vu owns all teh clubs in your city, then they get to jack up the fees, take higher cuts, treat girls worse and worse, and their is nothing you can do about it. do you think deja vu corp has any singular stripper's best interest in mind? No, of course not. their goal is to make money and make their investors happy.
some food for thought.
michele11
09-03-2011, 07:34 AM
^ Dea vu clubs have been around 20 years, I dont think they are going to chase out the independently owned clubs that would have happened by now.
Stripper Hacks
09-03-2011, 08:55 AM
^^^
@Michele11 it just happened in Seattle a year or so ago. If you want to dominate the market what better way is there than to eliminate the competition.
What I would like to know is what clubs in other areas are close to these corporate clubs and are having issues.
What club just closed in Las Vegas not too long ago and it was in the vicinity of two corp. clubs?
Seriously if you work close to a corporate club and things feel amiss, talk to your manager or owner because you are not imagining things.
The strip club business is cut throat and Seattle is no different.
michele11
09-03-2011, 10:12 AM
It happened in seattle since there aren't many clubs. In large areas i've vorked in with many corporate clubs I haven't seen this happen and I've been dancing over 14 years and have worked in many top chain clubs and many private owned clubs in vegas, dallas, tampa, chicago, baltimore, myrtle beach ( were there are many independently owned and chain clubs) indiana, reno and sorry but I haven't seen this and I've probably danced in more top clubs across the country and for a longer period than anyone here.
michele11
09-03-2011, 10:15 AM
Oh forgot manhattan and denver as well.
Stripper Hacks
09-03-2011, 12:11 PM
It happened in seattle since there aren't many clubs.
These were the top clubs in the state.
These were not barely there clubs that were hanging on by a thread.
4everresolutions
09-03-2011, 12:15 PM
I think the concept of DV club monopolies should be taken to a new thread. Lets leave this one on topic. I wanna hear more about Meds club and daydream about the day I can work in the US again....*sighs*
Athenathefabulous
09-03-2011, 12:27 PM
^ Dea vu clubs have been around 20 years, I dont think they are going to chase out the independently owned clubs that would have happened by now.
when did deja vu become publicly traded?
anyway, they are taking over one city at a time. They come in and drive out the indie clubs. obvious example we both are familiar with: New Orleans. every club that is not extremely dirty is corporate. Barely legal, hustler, deja vu- all vu clubs. Ricks, Ricks saloon- Ricks. Penthouse- VCGH. all the other clubs are shady.
Looks like seattle is their next target.
I think the concept of DV club monopolies should be taken to a new thread. Lets leave this one on topic. I wanna hear more about Meds club and daydream about the day I can work in the US again....*sighs*
there are plenty of threads on the Vu monopolies, but it is quite pertinent to this thread. The fact that we are discussing deja vu clubs in a city that is clearly being marked by Vu as a target for takeover should be taken into factor. And i dont think any girl on here should blindly trust or put faith in a Vu club, even if it is a decent place to work at for the time being. Perhaps ignore the posts in this thread that are rightfully skeptical of deja vu owned clubs in seattle and continue to daydream on your own time? Becasue girls considering traveling to work somewhere should have a balanced set of info before forking over money for a plane ticket.
shasta
09-03-2011, 12:51 PM
When I worked at the Deja Vu in downtown Seattle it was explained to me that they are franchises.
michele11
09-03-2011, 02:02 PM
All penthouses are not vcg just the st. louis and denver ones are.
michele11
09-03-2011, 02:10 PM
And since we are talking about chains........most chain clubs are the nicest and cleanest in the area with the most earning potentilal, chains I've worked for scores, ricks,(2) hustler, (2) penthouse,(2) thee doll house, pure platinum ( before vcg, ricks and dea vu the doll house corp was one of the biggest chains in the country) there are only a few doll houses and solid golds left but they were the first high end gown club next to ricks. Oh and the crazy horse too. All these chain clubs were the classiest in the area with the best money potential. Though the hustler in nola is nothing like the one in baltimore ( not as nice) I don't think vu is going to take over new orleans anytime soon.
Seatortuga
09-03-2011, 03:48 PM
Ok, I feel kind of stupid for asking and being in the industry I think I should know this already, but Deja Vu and Pt's are 2 seperate franchises, no?
I've worked for both (unfortunately) and do my best to avoid them if I can. I think they have their business minds in the right place, but the contracts,fees, and other BS just doesn't mesh well with this type of business (i.e. with us girls).
For instance, it is common knowledge that strip clubs aren't *supposed* to ask you to tip the bar,door,dj,etc. Most of us girls do so anyway without a problem though, right? These clubs will tack on the cost of paying these people to your house fee but then still ask you to tip them at the end of day, when they know good and well they're not supposed to ask you to. It frustrates me because I want to tip the DJ well, but I really did have trouble on those inevitable slow days sometimes breaking even...and I paid into the club already with my house fee and LD fees, so the DJ can have an hourly wage GD'itt.
I got a letter in the mail shortly after working for Hustler STL that some girls sued them for wage garnishing; more power to them. Errmm, Ok, I don't want to thread jack so I better stop here.
michele11
09-03-2011, 04:39 PM
I think some are individualy owned( franchised) so they have their own policies. I know scores and penthouse tampa are not corporate owned and ricks in nola isn't either. I've also worked at small independantly owned clubs were you had to tip house, d.j., boucers, house moms all seperate from house fees it's all relative.