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MissKatie
07-21-2011, 08:09 PM
Aww Aria ((hugs)) :) Is there any harm in having more than one site? Do you need to pay for the wordpress site too?
Bambalina
07-21-2011, 08:16 PM
How bout this...give me one month...from today...I will try to roll out the same service but you own pretty much everything. And it will be a $100 flat fee for all the stuff offered above, except you do your own payment processing. (I believe any woman who CAN do her own payment processing and gives that...that important step of getting the damn money in yer greedy lil hands..to someone else...is not thinking...YOU can do Zombaio and keep all the money but 7.9%....anyway...
Buy yer site up front...cheaply, using CL...and have it designed to spec, and I will walk you through the WHOLE process with the best domain name registars and hosting and all of that, for the referral on those services...and then I will offer the damn cam plug-in for under $50 a month... Hosting will be like $20-$40 and the cam plug-in will be say $39.95 or $44.95...and we keep the thing under $100
Think of it this way...lets say you can get to bringing in $1000 per week, which is a nice sum and round and workable and not fairytale...right?
That means that Danny keeps $300 per week, or $1200 per month of your money, for having designed you a site, and for letting you use his Zombaio, which HE controls and can then say "ohhhh...chargebacks are too high.." or whatever. Now since your hosting will be automated and will be say $50 a month tops, and your payment processing will be about $240 for the WHOLE month, Danny makes $900 per month off you FOREVER for doing a website for you that someone else could design for a FLAT ONE TIME fee.
So now tell me this deal is as exciting as it sounded at first??? NO promotion and NO traffic, that's do it yourself....for 30%...and you don't even get the traffic that a shitty indy site gets because they have 200 girls on there...which draws guys...
Think how hard marketing this site is gonna be....
Come to Collective Chat this Sunday, and I promise, I'll show you a way better way, and I challenge Danny to come as well (for say, the first hour) and we'll discuss it. This isn;t a BAD deal, and it isn't a terrible ripoff, but it isn't that good and it is not as much of a dream as it sounds like....We can do better ladies, but I promise you, you HAVE to stop trying to get something for nothing and be willing to invest SOMETHING to make it happen and OWN it YOURSELF!
B
VelvetRose
07-21-2011, 08:18 PM
Question for you girls - as this isn't a free service, you're still paying 30% to the house, is it worth it? I mean considering you have to find and drive ALL the traffic towards it? Isn't it easier just to cam on an established site that charges the same percentage?
If you know of a site that pays 70%, doesn't resell our shows, doesn't have thousands of girls on it with their vags out in free chat and offers killer traffic, please let me know where. I'll sign up in a minute. :)
xoxo
Velvet Rose
Bambalina
07-21-2011, 08:33 PM
I was wondering when you would finally chime in, Bambalina. It's always great to hear your opinion on any matter. :)
Who said anything about "FOREVER"?
I am excited about this opportunity because it will allow me to have my own camsite without any huge investment costs upfront as well as allowing me to be the only featured performer on my site so I am not competing with thousands of camgirls on the same site.
We are welcome to (and have the right) to discontinue this working relationship with our webmaster at any time. We retain ownership of our domain. I don't plan on giving Danny 30% of my earnings "FOREVER". My long term goal is to have a super flashy designed camsite, my own payment processor as well as purchase a license (with full rights) for a camscript.
The buck doesn't stop here.... ;)
Thanks VR, and this stuff does kick my ass into gear to make things happen faster.
See, what I see here is that for him to be webmaster, for even a day...for 30% of your income...is a rip...not a HUGE rip maybe, and a better rip than SM for example...But I see you giving money for videoes which are paid for with tokens, and tips which you earn 4 months after webmaster danny is sitting on his couch doing sites for other models right into his undeserving pocket...he is re-inventing the wheel. So why buy a re-invented wheel?
See, most girls will think (stinkin' thinkin' in my very honest opinion) that he does the site for free, so what do I have to lose? But that is the WORST kind of thinking for a business-person. Because you are giving 30% of your product...your trademark, your copyright, your content...to a web designer..not someone who brings you millions of dollars, but someone you can hire for $30 an hour off CraigsList. Sorry, not worth it.
Edited: Also, it is forever if you want to keep the interface your customers get used to and the credit system they come to rely on and all that. I mean, it is going to be very hard to give up that camsite and re-start the whole thing anew, and you can;t use HIS designs and tokens and such...so plan on this being a pretty long or very short adventure...
Custies are pretty darn picky about HUGE changes to your thing....
/End Edit
And why am I so honest with ladies I love? Because you lost nothing...until you start working for a web designer. Right now you lost NOTHING...
So I can afford to be harsh...let him design your site...shit...if you have a guy who you normally get paid 35% for and you can get him on your 70% site...well, before you do it, think about what Skype and Zombaio would pay...wow...92%...hmmm...think about it...and if there is a truly good reason you CANNOT get this guy to do Zombaio and Skype, THEN by all means take him and get 70%...or just have him schedule a show on AW, and make 70% and get a few privates while you're waiting...
I just think this is all the hassle of a Indy site, without the traffic. When I pop the cam script, it will be usable on ALL my sites as well as the collective, and a few other direct-linking tricks up my sleeve as well...and I will NEVER charge you a percentage of earnings, and I will NEVER force you to do Payment Processing with me.
One month...I will pop that cam script.
B
PS. For now, don;t feel any remorse, you are doing fine...try this guy out...be prepared to bail at the first sign of yukkiness and enjoy it...Don;t sign ANYTHING that gives ANY rights to ANYONE. And you're ok, and we can learn from it.
You guys are guinea pigs (even cuter tho) who are going to the Asteroid belt for us, so we can see how it works...I would advise everyone else to take a wait and see attitude...and you two...well, don;t give 30% to ANYONE, unless you have to...if YOU'RE driving the traffic, why drive it to a place where someone takes a percentage of your money???
Bambalina
07-21-2011, 08:41 PM
If you know of a site that pays 70%, doesn't resell our shows, doesn't have thousands of girls on it with their vags out in free chat and offers killer traffic, please let me know where. I'll sign up in a minute. :)
xoxo
Velvet Rose
We're working on designing that site right now...The Collective will be JUST THAT.
That will be it's Modus Operandi....
So, let's make it happen within 60 days...it can be done...
B
Bambalina
07-21-2011, 08:48 PM
Aria my love...do not despair...you did not do anything to be confused about. I am pointing out how you, as the kickass businesswoman I saw in that interview video, should be HAPPY about this site, but ONLY as a place to take men who refuse and kick and scream about giving you the 92% payout of Zombaio and Skype babe...You are a Warrior-Goddess and you kick ass and take names, and 30% for web design...c'mon! Let's get real....
(However, having a 30% place up your sleeve when needed is NOT a bad thing, is it? Just don't make it the be-all and end-all...Warrior Goddesses don't settle!)
We're gonna rock the WORLD....keep the focus and all is well...
B
PS. Don't use your absolute best domain name, that keeps this as a side project in a sense, and allows you to keep it for what it is good for even after we rock the world...Put a Ms in front of your name or somethin...:)
Arialandre
07-21-2011, 08:50 PM
Fuck. My head just hurts too damn much for this right now.
tessarubyxoxo
07-21-2011, 08:54 PM
Thanks VR, and this stuff does kick my ass into gear to make things happen faster.
See, what I see here is that for him to be webmaster, for even a day...for 30% of your income...is a rip...not a HUGE rip maybe, and a better rip than SM for example...But I see you giving money for videoes which are paid for with tokens, and tips which you earn 4 months after webmaster danny is sitting on his couch doing sites for other models right into his undeserving pocket...he is re-inventing the wheel. So why buy a re-invented wheel?
See, most girls will think (stinkin' thinkin' in my very honest opinion) that he does the site for free, so what do I have to lose? But that is the WORST kind of thinking for a business-person. Because you are giving 30% of your product...your trademark, your copyright, your content...to a web designer..not someone who brings you millions of dollars, but someone you can hire for $30 an hour off CraigsList. Sorry, not worth it.
Edited: Also, it is forever if you want to keep the interface your customers get used to and the credit system they come to rely on and all that. I mean, it is going to be very hard to give up that camsite and re-start the whole thing anew, and you can;t use HIS designs and tokens and such...so plan on this being a pretty long or very short adventure...
Custies are pretty darn picky about HUGE changes to your thing....
/End Edit
And why am I so honest with ladies I love? Because you lost nothing...until you start working for a web designer. Right now you lost NOTHING...
So I can afford to be harsh...let him design your site...shit...if you have a guy who you normally get paid 35% for and you can get him on your 70% site...well, before you do it, think about what Skype and Zombaio would pay...wow...92%...hmmm...think about it...and if there is a truly good reason you CANNOT get this guy to do Zombaio and Skype, THEN by all means take him and get 70%...or just have him schedule a show on AW, and make 70% and get a few privates while you're waiting...
I just think this is all the hassle of a Indy site, without the traffic. When I pop the cam script, it will be usable on ALL my sites as well as the collective, and a few other direct-linking tricks up my sleeve as well...and I will NEVER charge you a percentage of earnings, and I will NEVER force you to do Payment Processing with me.
One month...I will pop that cam script.
B
PS. For now, don;t feel any remorse, you are doing fine...try this guy out...be prepared to bail at the first sign of yukkiness and enjoy it...Don;t sign ANYTHING that gives ANY rights to ANYONE. And you're ok, and we can learn from it.
You guys are guinea pigs (even cuter tho) who are going to the Asteroid belt for us, so we can see how it works...I would advise everyone else to take a wait and see attitude...and you two...well, don;t give 30% to ANYONE, unless you have to...if YOU'RE driving the traffic, why drive it to a place where someone takes a percentage of your money???
wow your site sounds amazing, i hope itll go live soon! :) i love the sound of all of that.