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tampadancer
07-21-2011, 12:58 PM
yeah, well, let us not forget that women do their share of lying...

Kellydancer
07-21-2011, 01:02 PM
i tried online dating = FAIL! lol;D

I've heard so many bad stories from men about online dating. Mostly that the women they met were liars.

Jay12
07-21-2011, 01:14 PM
he told me he fixes laptops and he work in the IT department. he drives a BMW.

If he fixes laptops, he must have A+ (which consists of two pricey exams). Have you seen his BMW before? If you haven't, he's either lying about it, or is an older model and has already been paid off, or he may bough it used.

sweet_baby
07-21-2011, 01:23 PM
If he fixes laptops, he must have A+ (which consists of two pricey exams). Have you seen his BMW before? If you haven't, he's either lying about it, or is an older model and has already been paid off, or he may bough it used.

i have seen it in ONE of his pictures. yea he mentioned he is a computer know it all. i'm pretty sure its a 2-doors which is a 3 series.

tampadancer
07-22-2011, 12:53 PM
I've heard so many bad stories from men about online dating. Mostly that the women they met were liars.

Yeah, that and they post pictures of themselves at fifty pounds lighter...

Kellydancer
07-22-2011, 12:59 PM
Yep that and much younger. That's why I am very leery about sites because I am very honest and hate lying.

rickdugan
07-22-2011, 01:25 PM
At 22 he owns his own home, has a good job with future upside and drives a nice car. Yup, this guy is clearly a loser. But, in defense or the naysayers, the BWS is only a 3 Series after all. And of course let's not forget his coupon goof. ::)

Kellydancer
07-22-2011, 01:31 PM
But the thing is we don't know if he's telling the truth.

rickdugan
07-22-2011, 03:16 PM
But the thing is we don't know if he's telling the truth.

Kelly, you don't know if almost anyone is telling the truth when you first go out with them. If you used that as the excuse then you would have to limit your dating pool to a very small circle of people.

The OP wasn't questioning whether we thought that he was telling the truth, but rather whether he sounded cheap. Maybe, but if the young guy is carrying a mortgage and car payment then maybe he is light on discretionary funds. A request for a coupon doesn't make him a liar or a loser, just socially awkward.

sweet_baby
07-22-2011, 03:40 PM
At 22 he owns his own home, has a good job with future upside and drives a nice car. Yup, this guy is clearly a loser. But, in defense or the naysayers, the BWS is only a 3 Series after all. And of course let's not forget his coupon goof. ::)

ok who are we talking here? i'm confused. i know its NOT the coupon boy. cuz he still lives at home with his parents...

rickdugan
07-22-2011, 03:56 PM
ok who are we talking here? i'm confused. i know its NOT the coupon boy. cuz he still lives at home with his parents...

Ah, my mistake then. I thought that I read something about him owning a home but obviously I misread.

Kellydancer
07-22-2011, 09:10 PM
Kelly, you don't know if almost anyone is telling the truth when you first go out with them. If you used that as the excuse then you would have to limit your dating pool to a very small circle of people.

The OP wasn't questioning whether we thought that he was telling the truth, but rather whether he sounded cheap. Maybe, but if the young guy is carrying a mortgage and car payment then maybe he is light on discretionary funds. A request for a coupon doesn't make him a liar or a loser, just socially awkward.

But that's why people need to be on their guard when it comes to online. In another thread it was brought up that some of the so called dancers aren't really giving advice that most dancers would give. That's the thing, online you never know who is what they say they are. I've met guys who claimed to be single and were married for example.

tampadancer
07-23-2011, 03:45 AM
Kelly - If people are liars, they are liars. It doesn't matter whether you meet them online, at a bar, or at church. In today's dating climate, you have to be willing to do your own investigative work and have a strong intuition in order to avoid liars.

Personally, I've had better luck with online dating. I think it's easier to weed through the losers and liars before I even bother meeting someone face to face.

Davey17
07-23-2011, 04:31 AM
I've been talking to this guy from Okcupid.com for about 5 days. We made plans to hangout yesterday. But, I thought about it. I made up an excuse telling him that I would be busy. The reason why I didn't want to meet him is because he sounds cheap and the fact we only talking for 5 days which was not long enough. He would message me and ask if I have coupons for the restaurants we're going to. He's 22 years old, works at a big company. He drives a BMW. But, he takes public transportation to work (back & forth). Does anyone on here think the same way I do?

***UPDATE***
The guy posted 3 more pictures of himself. He is UGLY and definitely out of my league lol. He kept checking up on my profile everyday. I feel like he is obsessed with me. Not to sound conceited. That is how I feel. He just messaged me asking if I still want to hangout this Friday. Which I have not replied yet.


Can understand what you guys are saying ..but hes a young dude , and you are sounding very superficial to be honest . And its certainly no big deal that he DOESN'T drive to work , thats just plain Smart . Plus with the many Taxes etc that will be coming worldwide on Carbon , we really do have to get over many of the Excesses of the Western world .

However ..... I think he was clever to think of the Coupons , but silly to mention it ...Why pay full Wack if you dont have to ? ..Forget the car thing Its Absolute B/S ... and who cares if he drives a BMW ? if he does , what he should have been doing at 22 with that money ( in an incredibly flat US market ) is buying property .

I agree with the idea to meet them for a Coffee , and just have a Chat ..see what happens from there ..rather than putting yourself though the whole dinner episode ..but try not to be so dam superficial , that sounds really terrible ...I know thats common over there , but its really not a good way to look at it .;D

Davey17
07-23-2011, 04:37 AM
Kelly, you don't know if almost anyone is telling the truth when you first go out with them. If you used that as the excuse then you would have to limit your dating pool to a very small circle of people.

The OP wasn't questioning whether we thought that he was telling the truth, but rather whether he sounded cheap. Maybe, but if the young guy is carrying a mortgage and car payment then maybe he is light on discretionary funds. A request for a coupon doesn't make him a liar or a loser, just socially awkward.

Let me ALSO add .......... I know many many many people ..WHO LOOK GREAT ! Latest BMWs ..Nice Address ..Label clothes ..etc etc ( I have one couple in particular in my mind ) ..

Know What ??? They dont HAVE A CRACKER ..nothing ..just play the game ..Huge lease payments , Renting in expensive areas ..DONT HAVE A CRACKER .... he was asking me about one of my properties " How can you afford to hold that ..and the others " ............

Well for a start I gave up B/S depreciating " Assets " ...these are NOT assets by the way ;);)

Davey17
07-23-2011, 04:46 AM
Sad thing is when I did Match I got a lot of losers too. In my profile I state I do not date divorced dads and I stated it there too. The majority of the guys I got were dads. Before someone says that's the majority of guys my age, I get it, but there are still hundreds of single childless men my age online. They either don't like me, I don't like them or other reasons. The childless men my age I see online who look like good matches never respond. And before anyone says something about age I had this same problem when I did online dating in my late 20's too.

I'm supposed to go to this singles group and I found out about a few charity events so I am attending those as well.

I do think though regarding the coupon guy he should have suggested a meeting first. This is what I do because most guys online aren't long term and I won't be for most either. That way they can save money in the event I do become more or they meet someone else.

Id suggest the opposite ...if they were not fathers by that point , there generally will be something wrong with them ...and you have to ask Why ??

Its pointless having some stupid young dude , who's just going to be trying to " Run in ..Run out " ...just because they have not fathered a child .

But .......... You guys do view things very differently ( generally I find ) than most Australians .... Its more about money and image in the USA , VASTLY different .

tampadancer
07-23-2011, 04:52 AM
Id suggest the opposite ...if they were not fathers by that point , there generally will be something wrong with them ...and you have to ask Why ??

Its pointless having some stupid young dude , who's just going to be trying to " Run in ..Run out " ...just because they have not fathered a child .

But .......... You guys do view things very differently ( generally I find ) than most Australians .... Its more about money and image in the USA , VASTLY different .

I don't necessarily agree about the kids point, because kids aren't for everyone.

However, in my experience, if a guy is in his late thirties and hasn't been married, he isn't planning to get married...

Davey17
07-23-2011, 05:10 AM
I don't necessarily agree about the kids point, because kids aren't for everyone.

However, in my experience, if a guy is in his late thirties and hasn't been married, he isn't planning to get married...


Well .....interesting point ... Now , I only have 21.5 Mil to work with , however from a Macro view ( In Aussie ) ANY guy who was late 30s ..NO KIDS , either ..something wrong with him ( unable to reproduce ) ..or something wrong with him ( Services NOT required ) ..Or Married to his business ..or Just an Incredibly selfish individual ....

But naturally Im generalising .... and to recall ..Australia , is basically just a USA state in terms of population ..So we need to reproduce .:D

The selfish scenario , would be the common thread ..If I were a woman ( which Im NOT ) ..I would be avoiding that like the Plauge .

Kellydancer
07-23-2011, 01:25 PM
Id suggest the opposite ...if they were not fathers by that point , there generally will be something wrong with them ...and you have to ask Why ??

Its pointless having some stupid young dude , who's just going to be trying to " Run in ..Run out " ...just because they have not fathered a child .

But .......... You guys do view things very differently ( generally I find ) than most Australians .... Its more about money and image in the USA , VASTLY different .

Actually, no, if they are never married dads there is something wrong with them. As for divorced, in most cases that can be avoided. No, to me being divorced in most cases is a moral issue and yes part of it is financial. I don't want to support someone else's kids or worse his psycho exwife.

Kellydancer
07-23-2011, 01:26 PM
I don't necessarily agree about the kids point, because kids aren't for everyone.

However, in my experience, if a guy is in his late thirties and hasn't been married, he isn't planning to get married...

Not my experience but if I make it to 45 and not married then I won't marry. I also won't be alive at that point either because if I can't get married, life isn't worth living. However I know many men who married later and same with women.

Kellydancer
07-23-2011, 01:30 PM
Well .....interesting point ... Now , I only have 21.5 Mil to work with , however from a Macro view ( In Aussie ) ANY guy who was late 30s ..NO KIDS , either ..something wrong with him ( unable to reproduce ) ..or something wrong with him ( Services NOT required ) ..Or Married to his business ..or Just an Incredibly selfish individual ....

But naturally Im generalising .... and to recall ..Australia , is basically just a USA state in terms of population ..So we need to reproduce .:D

The selfish scenario , would be the common thread ..If I were a woman ( which Im NOT ) ..I would be avoiding that like the Plauge .

Yes you are generalizing and I will now about single dads.

If he's a dad he's:

Immoral, especially if never married
Disobeys God's rule to stay married no matter what
Just likes to fuck anyone he can
Only wants a woman to take care of his kids
Thinks he's hot stuff

See, stereotyping is NOT cool. Single dads to me are disgusting and so are many divorced dads. I only accept divorce in cases of adultery and abuse and otherwise he would not share my views. These issues are why we have a screwed up system.

tampadancer
07-23-2011, 02:40 PM
Not my experience but if I make it to 45 and not married then I won't marry. I also won't be alive at that point either because if I can't get married, life isn't worth living. However I know many men who married later and same with women.

Whoa, Kelly. I don't even know how to respond to this. I find your statement deeply saddening and disturbing. Why is marrying so important to you? Your self worth is NOT defined by your marital status.

Kellydancer
07-23-2011, 02:46 PM
Marriage is what God intends for us and if he doesn't intend it for me then he doesn't exist. Then I will cease to exist in his eyes. However I truly believe he does love me and will provide me with a husband I choose. Marriage is far more important than careers and I wish I had realized that earlier.

Mr Hyde
07-23-2011, 02:51 PM
that's fine Kelly but life is worth living beyond 45 if you're not married.

tampadancer
07-23-2011, 02:55 PM
So anyone who doesn't marry is not Godly? I don't understand your logic.

And not to go all Bible on you, but In 1 Corinthians, the single Paul actually comments on singleness, saying " I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another.To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am (7:7-8).

Marriage is not for everyone. You're Catholic, right? What about Priests? Nuns? What is it that you are hoping to find in a marriage that you have not found on your own? (I ask because I care, Kelly... I'm not trying to preach or berate, please know that).

Kellydancer
07-23-2011, 03:00 PM
But those people chose to be single, I have not. There's the difference. Like I said though that I know plenty of people over 40 that have married so I have hope. For all I know my ex may come back or I'll meet a great guy fitting what I want. I know people with long lists and found that person. A guy friend at 33 wanted a virgin and found her so me finding what I want is reasonable. And since most people do marry, even the never getting married men often marry too.

tampadancer
07-23-2011, 03:03 PM
Sigh.

Okay. I think women fall victim to societal programming that says they are "supposed" to marry because that's "just what women do."

Fuck society.

Kellydancer
07-23-2011, 03:05 PM
Because it's what we are expected to do. Plus I want the big wedding and will have it like everyone else.

tampadancer
07-23-2011, 03:07 PM
Because it's what we are expected to do. Plus I want the big wedding and will have it like everyone else.

Not everyone gets married.
I'm bowing out of this conversation. Just trying to give you something to consider.

Kellydancer
07-23-2011, 03:10 PM
Yes but those people didn't want it, which is fine. For me and my family this is not fine. I deserve to be like them.

Jessie_tinydancer
07-23-2011, 05:35 PM
But those people chose to be single, I have not. There's the difference. Like I said though that I know plenty of people over 40 that have married so I have hope. For all I know my ex may come back or I'll meet a great guy fitting what I want. I know people with long lists and found that person. A guy friend at 33 wanted a virgin and found her so me finding what I want is reasonable. And since most people do marry, even the never getting married men often marry too.

I think its nice that you really want to get married, but I agree with the others... life is still worth living on your own. I do hope you find that guy your looking for, but I do notice that you have a significant amount of criteria. Part of having a life partner is having someone that loves and accepts your faults and you accept theirs. I think you should definitely not settle for anyone, but at the same time what happens when that perfect man you find realises you dont fit into his "criteria"? Sometimes I think having a slightly more open mind would help you see the person you are looking for. I worry that you might have already passed him by.

Kellydancer
07-23-2011, 09:10 PM
I think its nice that you really want to get married, but I agree with the others... life is still worth living on your own. I do hope you find that guy your looking for, but I do notice that you have a significant amount of criteria. Part of having a life partner is having someone that loves and accepts your faults and you accept theirs. I think you should definitely not settle for anyone, but at the same time what happens when that perfect man you find realises you dont fit into his "criteria"? Sometimes I think having a slightly more open mind would help you see the person you are looking for. I worry that you might have already passed him by.

Except for the kids part everything else is pretty mind much preferences. This is definitely a dealbreaker because of this. I haven't passed anyone by because I haven't met any guy lately that fits my interest. The last guy who did was my ex and since then no one else. Oh sure I'd prefer a man who's not fat but if he's willing to lose weight this would be fine. Divorced wouldn't work though unless he gets it annulled. I should have looked earlier but was more interested in my career and being single, a mistake I pay for.

Davey17
07-24-2011, 02:32 AM
Yes you are generalizing and I will now about single dads.

If he's a dad he's:

Immoral, especially if never married
Disobeys God's rule to stay married no matter what
Just likes to fuck anyone he can
Only wants a woman to take care of his kids
Thinks he's hot stuff

See, stereotyping is NOT cool. Single dads to me are disgusting and so are many divorced dads. I only accept divorce in cases of adultery and abuse and otherwise he would not share my views. These issues are why we have a screwed up system.

Kelly Kelly .... I never said that stereotyping was cool ..
But man you are being extremely harsh ..especially with regard to divorce ..
How do you know this poor father caused it ? Its not always the man who insists on divorce . Personally , Im with you ..I dont agree with divorce .
Even though I was divorced many years ago myself .
Certainly the system is screwed ....thats why Im suggesting ( and of course it makes no difference to me ) ..That you may wish to consider this group you are ruling out .... Because to be honest you have a much greater chance of ending up ( temporarily ) with some foolish idiot ( selfish ) ..who wants to bang anything he can that has a heartbeat ..

Plus maybe some that dont ! lol ... Thats not a wise move ..

Certainly , I will say this ..I never EVER looked for females to take care of my kids ..that was my job , and Im now happy to say I must have done it rather well , but I didn't need a female sticking her nose in ... It was also never a hinderance , you need responsibilty as a parent .

Good Good Luck to you ! :O:O

Kellydancer
07-24-2011, 11:01 AM
I don't date divorced dads, ever. I'd rather never marry than date one of them. I have written many reasons why this is rarely a good idea, including financial and drama. I don't want my money to go towards his kids or his ex, I don't want to have to change my life around his kids and so much more. Not to mention I can't marry them anyway because then I don't get a church wedding.

It's always divorced dads that tell me how bad single men are. Odd that it's never the opposite. It's because divorced dads know they have baggage and women like me don't want their baggage.

unbeleavable
07-24-2011, 11:17 AM
Divorced dads are the most evil creatures to walk the earth with all their baggage...bastards..I don't know why they try?

Kellydancer
07-24-2011, 11:21 AM
Divorced dads are the most evil creatures to walk the earth with all their baggage...bastards..I don't know why they try?

No they aren't evil, just not guys I date. I always say that dads should date moms because they understand each other.

unbeleavable
07-24-2011, 11:27 AM
No they aren't evil, just not guys I date. I always say that dads should date moms because they understand each other.

Instead of stating what you don't want in a man all the time..post what you do want in a man. Positive thinking...

Kellydancer
07-24-2011, 11:48 AM
I have posted what I want and it's basically never married and no kids (though I could bend on the marriage in some cases). I want him to be a Christian, preferably Catholic and this is about it. My ex fits all of these but he doesn't want to be with me (or anyone else I think).

kthnx
07-24-2011, 05:35 PM
dude i dont know why u guys think kelly's standards are "too picky". ok so she doesnt want to date a divorced dude (unless the reasons for divorce were understandible, such as abuse or cheating) or a dad...but being that she's never-married and childless, i dont blame her. prior to having kids i didnt want a dad either...i wanted my 1st child to be the 1st for the guy involved too, it made it more special that way. i dont think kellys bein superficial at all, if anything she MAKES SENSE. as far as shallow traits like looks, kelly said b4 that she's kosher with dating guys that are a few yrs younger, or short, or even guys that are overweit (as long as hes tryin to lose the weit)...i think that shows an open mindedness. i find it funny and ironic that alotta the people who tell kelly shes too superficial or picky, are people who havent been in her situation (40 and never-married)...most of the people telling her she's too picky, are either MARRIED, or WERE married at one pt, or dont want to marry and/or dont care right now about prioritising marriage.

unbeleavable
07-24-2011, 08:48 PM
I understand her viewpoint on dads & agree with her that she shouldn't settle. The problem is she states that as the only pool of men.

Kellydancer
07-24-2011, 08:54 PM
dude i dont know why u guys think kelly's standards are "too picky". ok so she doesnt want to date a divorced dude (unless the reasons for divorce were understandible, such as abuse or cheating) or a dad...but being that she's never-married and childless, i dont blame her. prior to having kids i didnt want a dad either...i wanted my 1st child to be the 1st for the guy involved too, it made it more special that way. i dont think kellys bein superficial at all, if anything she MAKES SENSE. as far as shallow traits like looks, kelly said b4 that she's kosher with dating guys that are a few yrs younger, or short, or even guys that are overweit (as long as hes tryin to lose the weit)...i think that shows an open mindedness. i find it funny and ironic that alotta the people who tell kelly shes too superficial or picky, are people who havent been in her situation (40 and never-married)...most of the people telling her she's too picky, are either MARRIED, or WERE married at one pt, or dont want to marry and/or dont care right now about prioritising marriage.

Unfortunately I see this often at dating sites. I get contacted often by divorced men and when I reject them they get upset. Like I've mentioned dating a dad if one is childless is a nightmare. I have to share everything with his kids, including money and time. Not dating dads actually makes sense because the times I dated dads the drama was unreal. The reality is the majority of these situations will be drama.

Kellydancer
07-24-2011, 08:55 PM
I understand her viewpoint on dads & agree with her that she shouldn't settle. The problem is she states that as the only pool of men.

I'm finding there are still the type of guys I want out there. Oh sure there are less of them but still a few and all I need is one, which shouldn't be hard considering I am near Chicago.

Davey17
07-25-2011, 04:24 AM
Well .... Anyhow , doesn't matter ..Up to you guys who you date . We will agree to disagree , Im glad I never had these problems ....I must admit it just blew me away to read it , because I believe the exact opposite .

Think its very much a cultural issue to be honest ......the wonderful US of A ... things really are " lived out " like in the horrible trashy soap operas that some stupid TV station here purchases .

Anyhow ...good luck to all those dating :)

Davey17
07-25-2011, 04:27 AM
dude i dont know why u guys think kelly's standards are "too picky". ok so she doesnt want to date a divorced dude (unless the reasons for divorce were understandible, such as abuse or cheating) or a dad...but being that she's never-married and childless, i dont blame her. prior to having kids i didnt want a dad either...i wanted my 1st child to be the 1st for the guy involved too, it made it more special that way. i dont think kellys bein superficial at all, if anything she MAKES SENSE. as far as shallow traits like looks, kelly said b4 that she's kosher with dating guys that are a few yrs younger, or short, or even guys that are overweit (as long as hes tryin to lose the weit)...i think that shows an open mindedness. i find it funny and ironic that alotta the people who tell kelly shes too superficial or picky, are people who havent been in her situation (40 and never-married)...most of the people telling her she's too picky, are either MARRIED, or WERE married at one pt, or dont want to marry and/or dont care right now about prioritising marriage.

lol ..lol ..lol ....Snagging some young Jock , after a Bang ... I think that supports MY case ...how flexible !

Dont waste your time there ! ( unless it s for the quick bang ) ;)

lemiwinks31
07-25-2011, 09:20 AM
I have posted what I want and it's basically never married and no kids (though I could bend on the marriage in some cases). I want him to be a Christian, preferably Catholic and this is about it. My ex fits all of these but he doesn't want to be with me (or anyone else I think).

Whenever you mention what you want in a man......it NEVER includes what kind of person he is.....is he a nice guy or an asshole.

plenty of never married childless Catholic assholes walking around.....

Kellydancer
07-25-2011, 10:30 AM
Well .... Anyhow , doesn't matter ..Up to you guys who you date . We will agree to disagree , Im glad I never had these problems ....I must admit it just blew me away to read it , because I believe the exact opposite .

Think its very much a cultural issue to be honest ......the wonderful US of A ... things really are " lived out " like in the horrible trashy soap operas that some stupid TV station here purchases .

Anyhow ...good luck to all those dating :)

What? I don't live my life like reality tv. Quite the contrary I live my life like the 50's. Yes I find the culture here disgusting where divorce is readily available and acceptable. I cringe when I hear stories about never married parents and I loathe these types of scum.


Whenever you mention what you want in a man......it NEVER includes what kind of person he is.....is he a nice guy or an asshole.

plenty of never married childless Catholic assholes walking around.....

Plenty of assholes walking around, period.

tampadancer
07-25-2011, 12:28 PM
What? I don't live my life like reality tv. Quite the contrary I live my life like the 50's. Yes I find the culture here disgusting where divorce is readily available and acceptable. I cringe when I hear stories about never married parents and I loathe these types of scum.


Do you ever consider that there are many men and women on this board who are unwed parents? I mean, you "loathe these types of scum"? Don't you think that's a little extreme.

You come across as judgmental, arrogant, and dogmatic when you say things like that.

silk55
07-25-2011, 12:32 PM
I've heard so many bad stories from men about online dating. Mostly that the women they met were liars.

Well from a guys perspective. Here's my story... I met a 27yr old (at the time) very attractive successful insurance broker through online dating (match.com). We met up for drinks and dinner. It all started off well she even offered to pay for dinner which I refused (call me old fashioned). Everything seemed like it went well on the first and second date. Then by the 3rd date after a few drinks and dinner she invited me over her place. Well one thing led to another and we ended up sleeping together. Everything seemed good until about 2 weeks after our initial date. Since I own my own consulting business it requires me to wine and dine clients. It turned out that I would see her at a lot of the restaurants I took my clients too (mostly steak houses capital grill, grill 23 ect. in Boston) it then stated to be every time I was with a client she would be there with her girl friend or I would notice that she was at the bar while I was about to leave. Didn’t really think anything of it until one night I left my cell phone in the car and noticed 28 missed calls from her #. So I immediately called her back since I thought she must have gotten into accident or something terrible happened. She picked up and said I just really missed me. Long story short by the end of the relationship which was all within 1 month I had about $2k worth of damage to my car. I’ve gotten the sense from other friends that tried online dating that there are a lot of damaged goods on these online dating sites. I’m not saying that everyone is crazy on online dating sites but there must be a higher percentage of screwed up people on there. I’m also not to say that I wouldn’t try it again. LoL}:D

Kellydancer
07-25-2011, 12:39 PM
Do you ever consider that there are many men and women on this board who are unwed parents? I mean, you "loathe these types of scum"? Don't you think that's a little extreme.

You come across as judgmental, arrogant, and dogmatic when you say things like that.

Well, I would never marry a man like that. Men who have children by multiple woman without marrying them ARE scum and that I won't back off from, especially since I usually have to pay for them. As for the women I don't date them so I don't care unless they are on welfare then yes I care.

Sure I might sound judgemental but what about those who state if someone is single later in life they must have problems? That's judgemental and arrogant as well. Why is it acceptable to have multiple kids out of wedlock but not acceptable to feel this is wrong, especially if I pay.

Kellydancer
07-25-2011, 12:43 PM
Well from a guys perspective. Here's my story... I met a 27yr old (at the time) very attractive successful insurance broker through online dating (match.com). We met up for drinks and dinner. It all started off well she even offered to pay for dinner which I refused (call me old fashioned). Everything seemed like it went well on the first and second date. Then by the 3rd date after a few drinks and dinner she invited me over her place. Well one thing led to another and we ended up sleeping together. Everything seemed good until about 2 weeks after our initial date. Since I own my own consulting business it requires me to wine and dine clients. It turned out that I would see her at a lot of the restaurants I took my clients too (mostly steak houses capital grill, grill 23 ect. in Boston) it then stated to be every time I was with a client she would be there with her girl friend or I would notice that she was at the bar while I was about to leave. Didn’t really think anything of it until one night I left my cell phone in the car and noticed 28 missed calls from her #. So I immediately called her back since I thought she must have gotten into accident or something terrible happened. She picked up and said I just really missed me. Long story short by the end of the relationship which was all within 1 month I had about $2k worth of damage to my car. I’ve gotten the sense from other friends that tried online dating that there are a lot of damaged goods on these online dating sites. I’m not saying that everyone is crazy on online dating sites but there must be a higher percentage of screwed up people on there. I’m also not to say that I wouldn’t try it again. LoL}:D

That sounds creepy. Right now I am having problems online with these clingy guys. One guy keeps telling me I have to commit to him and he keeps sending me love letters. I have never met him. How did she know where you were? That is creepy.