View Full Version : Letters to Leo..or..The continuing Saga of the MFC Rules.
Bambalina
08-15-2011, 02:01 AM
OT, but I wouldn't call the Northern burbs "wimpy." I don't see what's wrong with having a low amount of crime, wealthy/high class people, and beautiful scenery.
Anyways, I guess your plan worked since Agent_99 has actually been banned. I know she broke the rules a lot, but I'm kind of bummed about it, tbh. She was entertaining.
Nothing wrong with the Northern burbs...I was in the Northwest burbs at my last known Illinois address...But being born and raised and living IN the city for 90% of my life, and doing the Chicago Public School system, um, most of the burbs are kinda wimpy...Glenview is like living JUST far enough away from the carnival, that you hardly ever get to go, but when people in faraway places ask where you're from, you say "Chicago!" and act like it's true....Skokie and Evanston, Harwood Heights and Norridge, Oak Park...these places can get away with saying "Chicago"...Glenview? Not even walking distance to Chicago....if it costs more than a gallon of gas to get to the border of Chicago...it's another WORLD.
(thanks, that was fun...I miss home sometimes, especially in summer {who is the idiot in Florida in summer?? B is!} but then winter comes and I remember why I went on the road in the first place.
Um, Agent99 is a symbol for me, she IS entertaining, but she is also symbolic of the concept that it is ok to break the rules and screw others over and get away with it, and "bitches should keep their noses to themself" which to me, is complete and utter bullshit. If I am in a business to make money, and someone breaks the law, or breaks the rules of business, or uses fraud or unfair business tactics, they are CHEATING. And if I don't cheat, I have a right to say something about it.
Our economy is in the shitter because the banks, rating companies and Investment houses CHEATED and broke the rules. And No-ONE did anything about it.
We're headed for the same thing in miniature. Someone needs to say something about it.
Personally I never said a word about Agent99 because she was train wreck and it was obvious her shenanigans were un-sustainable for MFC. So why bother? It was coming no matter what.
B
Bambalina
08-15-2011, 02:44 AM
I don't want to get my head chopped off here, or have people arguing with me, or being rude.
None of that from me, promise...love ya too much...
I just want to know why do some of you get happy when people get banned? Why are some of you surfing other models rooms to see what they do, then want to tattle tell on them for not following rules?
I have never tattled on a model, so I don't know the root of that.
I would hope we can fix this whole thing without resorting to model-to-model combat :) Although it seems like that may not be possible. Since even these threads, which should be PURE discussion, become more than that. So, lets hope it CAN be solved with legit debate.
However, I will be seriously happy if MFC starts following the rules. If that requires fining and suspending, and even banning some...so be it. They choose to break written rules they signed and gave their word they would follow.
When a girl breaks the rules, she cheats every other camgirl who doesn't. She unfairly takes customers from them, and by getting hundreds of potential customers OFF with a free show, that person causes those customers not to tip anyone. So if she gets busted doing it, and has to pay the consequences, I won't cry for her.
I do admit that I really hate to see girls naked for free. I do not like it when girls are topless for peanuts, but please tell me what difference it makes to you?
Well for me, I have no problems with girls being NAKED in free. The rules on MFC say that is fine, and so if you work there, you must go by their rules which we all signed we would abide by.
But the minute you do close-up vagina, masturbation, insertion, or girl-girl hardcore, you have SMASHED the rules which MFC specifically says THOSE THINGS aren't allowed. Period.
Just because MFC is a shithole that doesn't ENFORCE the rules anymore, like many stripclubs who allow "extras"...does NOT mean that it's ok to cheat others.
Again, I am just curious and asking. I am not trying to start an argument, because I respect everyone here. I just want to ask why do you even care?
Because Busty, in this world, everything reflects on everything else, and everything IS interconnected.
If you have a business where everyone follows the rules (or pays consequences if caught) then you would have a business where customers ALL expect to spend money to see anything "good" (ie. masturbation or hard shows, where they can masturbate and cum because it gets them off)..the minute you have a site where rule-breaking is ignored, and the free cum shows start, you've changed how all those customers think about camming, how they think about us, how they think about spending money to see cum-shows...and making customers think cum shows should be FREE is incredibly selfish, and seriously doing harm to all the women who want to be valued and treated like their services, time and bodies are WORTH something.
So, for me this is about how their actions DIRECTLY affect others immediately and irreversibly.
The other way it totally affects MY income, is that these women are stealing away thousands and thousands of customers per day. Those guys could very well be in your room if the playing field was level. MANY of those guys used to tip, but stopped now that they can get a FULL cum show for FREE. THOUSANDS per day Busty...going off to watch girls who are cheating the rules and doing stuff they PROMISED they wouldn't. We're talking that since it is several thousands per DAY, it is directly affecting your income, and since new girls coming in see it as well, and think they have to do these shows to compete, it's increasing. Until pretty soon, the girls who don;t do these shows will be antiques, and the girls who do will be ever escalating the shows until you HAVE to do anal in public to be a camgirl and compete. You have to drink your own piss and do other outrageous insane shit.
And tell me, that these shows don;t affect outside the rooms they happen?
WHY do you think SM added Gold, and started ignoring their rules more and more? Why do they add cheap Group shows? Well, MFC with FREE PORN, steals all the business, and so they HAVE to. And camming for US gets cheaper and cheaper and less and less.
One more thing. How do y'all have time to watch other people? Being a cam model is a lot of work, and promoting yourself takes time. So if you are not watching people for tips on how to be better, then what is the purpose, other than boredom?
For me, I am a promoter, and it is my job to be aware of everything that happens in trends and limits on a site I promote on, and also, what is affecting my client's money....So I have to keep on tp of site happenings.
B
PS> No arguments, no nastiness. It's just a reality, and anyone who wants to debate it, should come with facts that show otherwise.
It is a fact that SM is following MFCs model now, because they are forced to. And that shows that those who cheat and break the rules are affecting the WHOLE camming business. Which means if you don't stick up for yourself and insist that people follow the damn rules they agreed to, you're shooting yourself in the foot.
roast
08-15-2011, 03:27 AM
Agent99 gets banned (http://www.google.com/search?q=agent99+banned&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=aea&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=agent99+banned+myfreecams&pbx=1&oq=agent99+banned+myfreecams&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=3219l11402l0l12666l17l11l1l0l0l1l3313l9028l 0.2.1.3.8-1.2l9l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=af5f4f3fbb50940f&biw=1024&bih=546)and unbanned (http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=156031) regularly, and even more so over the past few months.
This isn't the first time, and it won't be the last.
Believing that this letter had an impact (or was even read) is circumstantial at best.
Bambalina
08-15-2011, 03:54 AM
I have to agree with roast here. I don't think my letter or any letter by anyone had very much to do with Agent_99 being banned. It was mosre about a load of letters that came into MFC itself, that had nothing to do with me or anyone on here that I know of.
I also think that Agent is not banned, but suspended, since this happened before. She'll be back and she will slowly learn to conform to whatever rules MFC feels like enforcing at any given moment.
B
PS. Anything I say about Glenview, the burbs, Chicago, etc. Is very much tongue in cheek and kidding...I promise you, many of my friends are from the burbs, and as I said, my last address was in a Northwestern Suburb. I was poking gentle at Leo, and doing something Chicago and suburban people tended to all joke about (like North side and South side) since I was a little girl. No offense or seriousness intended.
BritishBecky
08-15-2011, 04:41 AM
I'm a bit late here but
I thought the letters (particularly the first one) were good. I thought they striked the right balance between humour and making serious points. I think sometimes an alternative approach is needed. The letters weren't meant to be directed at MFC the business but at Leo personally - so I though it was appropriate. The people at MFC aren't stupid (at least I doubt they are), so they'll be picking through all these threads and tbh even if the letter was not read by Leo personally yet, someone is bound to pick it up and think about whether it makes sense.
KitanaBlades
08-15-2011, 09:54 AM
Because they turned into greedy bitches, who visit rooms with their finger on the print screen button, blaming everybody for their own failure.
I make the most money being a cam girl when i have no idea about what forums are out there and what they say, and who is working on the sites that i'm on. Since mfc that changed for me. I got sucked into a tendency of checking out other top girls. But i would never ever report anybody, shame on you who do. Everybody does what they do on cam, because of their beliefs, or they think they need to do something to make them more succesful, or they really need to make that damn money. WHO are you to interfere with that?! Go save the world elsewhere! Save your OWN.( i,m talking in general)
Well I for one, HATE HATE HATE when people report other cam girls for any reason. I have said so in other posts I think it's just stupid and flat out jealousy. Like I said, Agent_99 dug her own hole....
Regardless of what anyone else does, I know what I DO - which is worry about me. I watch girls out of boredom and to get new ideas - not to be a caddy cunt and report them. What works for some will not work for all.
However, I will say that some will say that you will not report them and in fact some will in the future because that's just how it is...if you got in trouble for doing something and you saw another model doing the same thing - you'll report them because that's how bitchiness works.....
and the majority of cam girls are greedy - because WE ALL KNOW how much money can be made potentially and what the amounts can be....if you don't know - ask some of the veterans about the GOOD DAYS and raking it in. :)
housewench
08-15-2011, 10:21 AM
From what I hear, Agent99 should totally be able to pay someone to set up a site for her so she can go do Her Thing out in the wild west where SHE makes the rules >_>
KitanaBlades
08-15-2011, 10:26 AM
Housewench I agree! I think she would make a KILLING if she did that and what not..
Imagine the money should would make because you know people would follow!
housewench
08-15-2011, 02:46 PM
AND she'd be getting the whole cut!
Clearly she is not the bizniss jeenyus so many seem to think she is >>
Bambalina
08-15-2011, 03:05 PM
AND she'd be getting the whole cut!
Clearly she is not the bizniss jeenyus so many seem to think she is >>
Literally laughed out loud to "bizness jeenyus"...one second earlier and B woulda had pop shootin out her nose...
B
Bambalina
08-19-2011, 08:50 PM
For now, my final Letter to Leo....
Titled "Leo, I guess I give up...."
I mean, I thought by now we would have a wild e-mail conversation and be on good enough terms that you'd be flying me in to make me a manager of Cam-Rules, or the Czarina of Enforcement....But alas Leo, you are not niblling the bait I so un-subtly shoveled into your maw. And it irks me Leo, honestly...Because we coulda had something!
For now, I see that you, Leo, are too short-sighted to see that there are ways to use your rules to double your money quickly, and the women who work for you are too short-sighted to see what their actions, and lack of ACTION, will do to the cam industry...And so, as many stories do today, this one will end (for now) with the hero riding off in disillusionment, searching for people who can clearly see the nose upon their face. It is an all too common story these days Leo. I had hoped that, as someone nominally from "Chicago" (we both know Glenview is about as "Chicago" and street-wise as Mundelein..but I digress...) would get the Pizza and Italian Beef references and we could bond knowing that we both know what Gym Shoes are, and laugh as we enforce the rules and ride the moneystorm all the way to the bank...but instead, I will create sites that can't hope to compete with MFC, but will take more little chips off the surface...
We coulda had it good Leo,
B
So there you go...it was fun while it lasted...
B