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IsobelWren
11-10-2011, 10:54 AM
You won't worry that you don't have time to date, since you're too damn busy to date. In fact, you'll start to resent that most everyone wants to do dates on the nights and weekends, prime camming time! You'll start to think about sugar daddies, not because you're hurting for money, but because if you're taking time off of work for this you should at least be compensated.
You'll definitely spend all your time at home. To the point where you can't remember the last time you left your house. Pondering this you think that perhaps dating wouldn't be a bad idea. Just to get you out of the house and speaking to someone who isn't a grocery store clerk or calling you "BB"
Speaking of which, when you go to the grocery store or post office (the only places you seem to go these days) you suddenly realize how starved you are for in-person human contact and you chat with EVERYONE. You're vaguely offended when someone seems frightened or off put by how strangely friendly you are.
IsobelWren
11-10-2011, 11:02 AM
... the dumb texts messages asking me for a dirty picture/sex. My entire mood turns sour. The poor innocent guy I've been seeing who's sending me a text message wanting some 'ass, babe' is dangerously close to getting his head chewed off.
I immediately get defensive. Turned off. Annoyed, like 'No! You cannot see my ass." And my entire thought process goes from that to, "That fucker - I should be getting paid for this." What. The. Fuck. :O
The sad part is that I NEVER used to be like this before camming. I was always flirty, sluttyish back and now I'm a complete cunt when someone flirts with me...
See, unless you're feeling like you're doing this b/c you're traumatized by cam work I don't think it's a bad thing.
I get annoyed when ppl sext me, mostly b/c I think it's stupid but secondly b/c "fuck you, pay me". Before I started modeling/camming I would give everything away for the slightest bit of attention paid me. I had no self esteem. Someone took me out on a date? Well I owed him, didn't I? I should have sex with him. Now I know that ppl are willing to pay me a lot more for a lot less. I have a better sense of my worth so I get mad when I'm undervalued.
So we went on a date, you paid for 20$ of food and alcohol for me and now I'm obligated to have sex with you? Um. I don't THINK so Kemosabe. I get 3$ a minute to masturbate online, I'm worth a lot more than 20$ a fuck. Not that I want to be paid for sex but that I'm fully justified for waiting until I know I like you and want to have sex. I'm worth more than just a dinner. I don't HAVE to send you pics or booty call or whatever just because you gave me a drink. I have self esteem. I'm worthy of respect. I choose. I'm not obligated.
I think it's a good reason to get annoyed if someone you're seeing requests "ass, babe" Fucker, show a little respect.
Maina
11-10-2011, 08:15 PM
Everyone you know will ask you to go out on the weekends! You will have to decline or go out and have a horrible time because all you can think about it is your lost earnings!
HaydenBlue
11-10-2011, 08:43 PM
You will forget how to surf the internet. Spending hours online to lose yourself in another Hyperbole and a Half (http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/) blogpost is gone. LOLcats (http://icanhascheezburger.com/)? Forget it.
The internet is now dedicated to camming, whoring yourself out on twitter and browsing StripperWeb for 12+ hours a day.
goreantx
11-11-2011, 06:45 AM
- You will work from home
- You will eventually figure out you can just roll out of bed, brush your hair and your teeth, and log in and make money
- You won't miss any special moments with your kids because you were at work
- You can take your family out on trips in the middle of the day when everyone else is working for pennies
- You'll make the decision to work a lot and make tons of $$$ or just work a little and make enough to get by
- You'll start hundreds of posts on stripperweb and end up deleting them all before you press "post"
Fridays
11-11-2011, 07:35 AM
For every members( potential customer) that U can't convince to spend $ on you, you might feel rejected to the point that it wears you off...
For every customer who rejects you, there are at least 5-10 at any moment who watch that rejection live and they just might bond together and decide to reject you as well...
negativity?
no. its just the way it is..
god forbit you have the balls to call someone out... other 2-3 people in the room 9 times out of 10 will bond with the asshole and start calling you out for being a "bitch"..
laurielegs
11-12-2011, 06:07 PM
For every members( potential customer) that U can't convince to spend $ on you, you might feel rejected to the point that it wears you off...
For every customer who rejects you, there are at least 5-10 at any moment who watch that rejection live and they just might bond together and decide to reject you as well...
negativity?
no. its just the way it is..
god forbit you have the balls to call someone out... other 2-3 people in the room 9 times out of 10 will bond with the asshole and start calling you out for being a "bitch"..
This is the reason why I love how streamate has the regular chat so that they can only see their own text. I think it makes it more personal too. Also I can ban these types quick and easily without anyone but that particular asshole being the wiser.
I never use the partychat feature unless I'm doing a gold show (very rarely, maybe once a week).
Fridays
11-16-2011, 01:07 PM
one positive thing lol
it is normal to hate your job!
most people do :D
Spinnerette
11-16-2011, 02:40 PM
You will eventually have to come to terms with how you view this "lifestyle". You can love the immense amount of gains from choosing it, or you can let it eat you alive. Your choice.
SweetPinkCupcake
02-25-2012, 01:25 PM
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4urpleasure
02-25-2012, 04:06 PM
hahaa i do agree with u, its true its not all glamorous. Like last night, sum guy said to me "Let me be ur foot slave, then he said humiliate me in public" lol and i was like uhhhhhhh, i was stumped on WHAT TO SAY?! hahah it was ridiculous, some guys are soo weird its gross! I HATE when i get those ones, where they want me to make fun of them..totally not my cup of teaaaaa
Hehe, it is definitely mine! I find it so therapeutic. I also have to struggle from laughing my ass off most shifts anyways, so it's a good release later on in the night.
I am a nice person, I swear, I just think it's good to let me demons out in a healthy way that doesn't hurt anyone, is enjoyed by both parties and I get fucking paid for!
I have also noticed a rise in self esteem. I had a friend over who had a girlfriend and he grabbed me by the arm and tried to cuddle me on the couch. I calmly told him no that I was not comfortable with that due to my recent break up, and the fact that he had a girlfriend. Prior to this job, I would have smiled awkwardly or said nothing, and if he tried to take things further, I would have left or been really awkward about it. I was able to do it firmly, calmly, and in a productive manner, we were able to just continue watching the movie as though nothing had happened. Telling off guys has been great for me, and I have enough self esteem to tell someone no. Mine was destroyed (a lot stems from my last break up, though not all of it), and since working I have gained some back surprisingly. Initially,I was worried this job would destroy my self esteem.
I am really happy that taxes, financial advice, the reminders of RSP's, Savings, retirement keep coming up. It was never anything I thought of when I first started camming, it can get complicated, and it is easy to forget/ loose yourself in the money. This site has been a god send, a reality check, and a community/ outlet. There are not many people you can talk about work about.
shywebcamgirl
02-26-2012, 01:31 AM
I can bet at least 50 % of the models were told by someone in their family that they do not have a job. Not necessarily out of disrespect but out of concern for their future, for their pension plan ( how many models have one? I dont), out of aggravation with the secrecy of it all....
I kind of expect my family to suck in a lot of ways, I didn't pick them to be my family. Now my significant other, that is a different case.
shywebcamgirl
02-26-2012, 01:39 AM
^ Thank you ashiepants :)
This thread is in fact, extremely negative. The post above me is the only real positive thing I've seen.
Camming Connection needs alot more POSITIVE threads. I have never seen such a huge group of naysayers on SW in all of my 5 years on here.
I grant you that it is possible that Camming Connection could use more positive threads, but when you consider the fact that the title of this thread is 'For all newbies... if you wonder how camming is like... ' one would assume that a newbie would find the 'bad' stuff that they don't consider a lot more useful since they haven't encountered it before and would be better off knowing what to expect since they already know the good stuff.
I say this as someone who read the threads at SW before I started camming and I found that threads like these were amazingly helpful because I had never considered any of these things. I only considered the flexible schedule, the money, and the amazing things.
So hey, maybe being a naysayer isn't all bad after all. ;)
OJenni!
02-26-2012, 01:42 AM
that little bell chime or ringing sound when someone goes private? Guess what.... that will start showing up in your dreams
OJenni!
02-26-2012, 01:49 AM
You will go to a party with girls that is meant to be fun. A "lingerie" party, but you don't even want to go because the whole time you will be thinking about how you don't like your 32B boobs and don't want to go until you get a BA because you hear abusive comments from members that they need to be bigger. Sorry, I pretty much always shaked off, banned, and laughed off comments like that, but it really dawned on me today that hearing rude comments, even from the loseriest of losers that never pay for shows and over a computer screen, day in and day out actually is affecting me and I never realized it until now.
Or like in my case, your 38D natural boobs sag like you have 3 children, mean while you have no kids or ever been pregnant. Trust me the grass ain't always greener on the other side! I get the, "you much have breastfed many children because your boobs are saggy" comment often enough. I often come back with a snide comment like "you must not have much experience with real women because you have no idea what natural big tits look like".
wetmylipss
02-27-2012, 11:20 AM
you will have days when you are too tired to get on from working so much,you dont wanna look at a webcam lol
CinnimonKiss
02-27-2012, 02:56 PM
foot slaves are weird? LOOOL
u aint seen nothing yet..
God have mercy on u LOL:D
hahahaha Ive seen sum of u quote what I said up there, yessss god damn, I KNOW...NOOOOW lmao, Ive had sum really fucked up shit enter my private/exclusive since then. I think I wrote that post a little too soon :covereyes
Incantatious
02-27-2012, 06:04 PM
You may end up in threads like this, thinking to yourself: "Dude WTF? I don't feel like this / hate my job this much / feel so damaged by my job / feel like my job has ruined my life and my every interaction with the male species at all".
idgaf_luvr
02-27-2012, 06:20 PM
you will have days when you are too tired to get on from working so much,you dont wanna look at a webcam lol
If this isn't me sometimes. SMH Especially recently since I have to work a bit longer for my daily goal..
My social life is all kinds of weird. I want to go out with my friends/acquaintances on a Thursday or Friday night (I'm a single lady) but know that's the time I should be working & if I do go out I say "Oh, I'll just log in when I get home." YEAH RIGHT :sarcasm:. Plus, when they start feeling like you don't want to hang out because you have to work. Lately I've been trying to hit my weekly goal before Thursday night, or at least work day-shift those days, so I can go back to having a fun night life.
Dating sucks now too.
Good thing is, when the pay period ends, I feel accomplished and sleep easy.
Cosima
02-27-2012, 08:12 PM
You will have pride in financial independence...
You will have safety in being an adult worker in the comforts of your own home...
You will explore more about yourself sexually and learn new things
You will wake up, work, and say holy shit i made 200 dollars and it's not even noon yet
You will be in control of your own schedule
You will be in charge of your own brand and however you want to market yourself
You will realize that the potential is unlimited, but determined by how hard you work
love this!
playboymegan
02-27-2012, 10:57 PM
Not glamorous.
Not that much fun.
You will be in the "Jail" House non stop.( aka your house)
You will become a computer nerd.
You will get used to being called names... fat. ugly. whore. all day long!no matter what. You could be Pamela Anderson, you will be called names.
You will spend your $ faster then you made them. Easy come, easy go.
You will start second guessing yourself " Am I pretty enough"? "Am I worth few bucks"?
You will suffer.
You will cry.
You will get mad ( at least once a day)
You will get used to disrespect.
I've only cried once (not on cam, I logged off and logged on later). Everything else doesn't apply to me. Ironically, the day I cried, I ended up making $2,000USD that night.
I understand it's not all peaches and cream, but if I hated my job that much, I'd be looking for something else to do.
playboymegan
02-27-2012, 11:37 PM
It's bad enough that so many guys and girls OUTSIDE of the sex industry generalize all of use workers as one, but when an adult worker herself says this is how it is for EVERYONE, it's far more disappointing to hear.
"Sex Workers are:
Man haters.
Can't get any other job.
Hate their job.
Fake it all of the time.
Have no respect for themselves and let guys talk to them in a rude way.
Are emotionally damaged."
Etc. Etc. Etc.
I try my hardest to educate people around me and let them know those things do NOT apply to us all, and to generalize us as a whole is wrong.
To have camgirls sit here and say the same things they do...it's just....I don't even have words for it.
shywebcamgirl
02-28-2012, 09:11 AM
It's bad enough that so many guys and girls OUTSIDE of the sex industry generalize all of use workers as one, but when an adult worker herself says this is how it is for EVERYONE, it's far more disappointing to hear.
"Sex Workers are:
Man haters.
Can't get any other job.
Hate their job.
Fake it all of the time.
Have no respect for themselves and let guys talk to them in a rude way.
Are emotionally damaged."
Etc. Etc. Etc.
I try my hardest to educate people around me and let them know those things do NOT apply to us all, and to generalize us as a whole is wrong.
To have camgirls sit here and say the same things they do...it's just....I don't even have words for it.
I would love for you to expand more on your point, I am really confused right now. The human experience is a large and vast thing. I understand that you try your hardest to educate the people around you to not make generalizations but it is my personal opinion that you are really simplifying what is currently being said. Just because it hurts when people talk rudely to you in your chat room, doesn't mean you have no respect for yourself. I've worked tech support in the past which is essentially a job where you are paid to sit there and be called every name in the book. It is pretty comparable in a lot of ways, except I get to keep my clothes on.
When I watch a movie at the theatre I don't think long and hard whether or not the actor/actress was REALLY scared during that last scene. I am there to be entertained. I am truly baffled with why 'faking it all all the time' is a bad thing.
And to make the generalization of 'man haters' based on anything that has previously been said in this thread. That is the part I would like you to elaborate on the most.
Fridays
02-28-2012, 10:14 AM
It's bad enough that so many guys and girls OUTSIDE of the sex industry generalize all of use workers as one, but when an adult worker herself says this is how it is for EVERYONE, it's far more disappointing to hear.
"Sex Workers are:
Man haters.
Can't get any other job.
Hate their job.
Fake it all of the time.
Have no respect for themselves and let guys talk to them in a rude way.
Are emotionally damaged."
Etc. Etc. Etc.
I try my hardest to educate people around me and let them know those things do NOT apply to us all, and to generalize us as a whole is wrong.
To have camgirls sit here and say the same things they do...it's just....I don't even have words for it.
I personally did not imply any of these things when I started the thread.
oh wait, I said " its normal to hate your job" but I put a smiley after that, so I thought whoever reads that understands its a bit of a joke/ funny statement...
I did not say it is like this for everyone, I said it is like this for me, after doing it on MANY sites for a LONG time.... eventually those things happen.. if some models are lucky enough and do not experience any of these "negative" aspects of camming... thats great.
The majority does experience at least SOME of those things... and to prove that is the 5 pages of posts not only agreeing but adding to the thread..
It is what it is. and it is adult work and the " world" does not agree with it and thats why no matter how much we can sit here and say " but I LOVE IT!!!... look, I make money!!.. Look, I am having fun!!,.. Look, I have great customers..!.. Look! I have my own schedule!"... most people will reply...." whatever, whore, get a "real" job.."
oh and btw.. I love men!! LOOL. I wish I had a harem of them...
just rambling....
languid
02-28-2012, 10:31 AM
(I'm not sure if anyone already said this, but...)
You will learn to master the art of getting dressed in less than 30 secs. You'll soon be able to get dressed, fix your makeup eat a bite of something and so much more.... all in 30 seconds :)
loveshooks
02-28-2012, 11:33 AM
I personally did not imply any of these things when I started the thread.
oh wait, I said " its normal to hate your job" but I put a smiley after that, so I thought whoever reads that understands its a bit of a joke/ funny statement...
I did not say it is like this for everyone, I said it is like this for me, after doing it on MANY sites for a LONG time.... eventually those things happen.. if some models are lucky enough and do not experience any of these "negative" aspects of camming... thats great.
The majority does experience at least SOME of those things... and to prove that is the 5 pages of posts not only agreeing but adding to the thread
^^^WORD
I know this has already been expressed here in this thread several times over, but honestly, I can't imagine anyone doing a job for an extended period of time without experiencing at least one downside/drawback. I love camming just as I love my vanilla work, but each have features that annoy me and tire me the fuck out at times. That's normal, that's life, and recognizing that doesn't neccessarily equate with overall job dissatisfaction.
In that sense, this thread serves as a reality check for chicas who may enter the biz thinking they'll earn top dollar consistently simply by turning on their cam and smiling blissfully, when the reality is that being a top earner requires alot of effort, time and tolerance for aggravation.
Some of the 'venting' in this thread revels the importance of sw as a social support to those of us engaged in what can often be isolating work-both spatially (working alone from home) and socially (in that many here choose not to share their experiences of adult work with friends and family). Yes, the public can read what we write here in cc, but there are a thousand other threads here that actively challenge negative stereotypes- anyone who would arrive at conclusions about sex work and those who do it based solely on this thread probably already had their mind made up before they even started reading it. Personally, I don't give a fuck what those people think- I'm not here to win hearts and minds:)
One thing I will add is that if any one of us feels consistently overwhelmed and unhappy with our current style or method of camming, these feelings can act as a sign that it's time to switch things up a bit and experiment with different methods and approaches to earning within the industry (or outside it, as the case may be). That's where other threads here in cc offer a wealth of information and ideas.
peace and $$$$ y'all :)
CourtneyRaine
02-28-2012, 12:13 PM
You will become a master procrastinator, and you will cycle between feeling incredibly lazy and impossibly productive. Because you don't have to worry about getting fired if you decide not to log in, you will find excuses to avoid getting on cam. You will see the earning potential and you will think to yourself, "I'll just take today off and work extra hard tomorrow to make up for it." Yet one day inevitably turns into two, three, four...The more days you take off, the more unmotivated you will become to get back on cam. Then when your bills are due and you want to get your hustle on, you'll realize how unpredictable your daily earnings can be and you will drive yourself nuts trying to make your goals. You will go on camming binges that can last for days or weeks that are physically and mentally draining to make up for all the time you took off. You may reach your financial goals but you will tire yourself out in the process, so you will find any excuse to avoid getting on cam. Aaaaand repeat.
You will realize that working from home and being self-employed without having to commit to a set schedule requires a LOT more motivation and discipline than you ever imagined. You will be your own boss and while it sounds nice because you "think" you are in control, you will become frustrated that the amount of time and effort you put into camming will not always be reflected in your paycheck. Some days you will do everything in your power to achieve your goals, and you will become utterly disheartened when you barely make anything. You will doubt yourself and wonder how much longer you can put up with not having a predictable source of income, yet the thought of going back to work in a traditional job scares the hell out of you because you are accustomed to and even spoiled by the independence you have with camming.
shywebcamgirl
02-28-2012, 12:33 PM
You will become a master procrastinator, and you will cycle between feeling incredibly lazy and impossibly productive. Because you don't have to worry about getting fired if you decide not to log in, you will find excuses to avoid getting on cam. You will see the earning potential and you will think to yourself, "I'll just take today off and work extra hard tomorrow to make up for it." Yet one day inevitably turns into two, three, four...The more days you take off, the more unmotivated you will become to get back on cam. Then when your bills are due and you want to get your hustle on, you'll realize how unpredictable your daily earnings can be and you will drive yourself nuts trying to make your goals. You will go on camming binges that can last for days or weeks that are physically and mentally draining to make up for all the time you took off. You may reach your financial goals but you will tire yourself out in the process, so you will find any excuse to avoid getting on cam. Aaaaand repeat.
You will realize that working from home and being self-employed without having to commit to a set schedule requires a LOT more motivation and discipline than you ever imagined. You will be your own boss and while it sounds nice because you "think" you are in control, you will become frustrated that the amount of time and effort you put into camming will not always be reflected in your paycheck. Some days you will do everything in your power to achieve your goals, and you will become utterly disheartened when you barely make anything. You will doubt yourself and wonder how much longer you can put up with not having a predictable source of income, yet the thought of going back to work in a traditional job scares the hell out of you because you are accustomed to and even spoiled by the independence you have with camming.
^ ^ ^ ^ THIS! THIS! THIS!
I have been starting to learn that I really can not have 'work/life' balance with this job for me now that I have added doing videos for Clips4Sale. I mean, how many jobs do you have where even when you are trying to relax and take a bath in your downtime that you think to yourself, "Fuck, I should be camming/clipping this."
So, now that I've figured out that I will never be able to leave 'work behind at the office' I know I am going to have to SCHEDULE in downtime instead so I don't get burnt out and for me that isn't easy to do. Not only does it take a lot of self-discipline to not procrastinate you day away and get on cam, it also takes a lot of self-discipline to put time aside to have fun as well and not be mentally beating yourself up for 'all the money you could be making.'
im a newbie at camming started in December but heres what i learned so far:
you make bank your first couple of times because your so excited that your making money you wont sign off.
You will see what everybody means by being "lazy and just getting on the cam and work!" (when i first started i was like what is so hard? just sign on and make easy money, but then after, you get so use to making your own schedule u will do a lot of i dont wanna work today ill just work twice as hard on uhh this weekend yea)
Your really nice to everyone in your room, but after answering how old you are and where your from so MANY DAMN TIMES (ITS IN THE PROFILE RIGHT BELOW!) you grow to have a short tolerance guys.
You will wonder what happned to some of these guys and how they honestly ended up this annoying/psycho/clingy/needy/douchy and what is wrong with the world <---stage im in now.
but in the end through the good and bad, you will realize the INDEPENDENCE you get from this. your room, your rules, your schedule, your money. In one day i can make what took me two weeks in some mindless job to make or more.
CourtneyRaine
02-28-2012, 01:05 PM
Not only does it take a lot of self-discipline to not procrastinate you day away and get on cam, it also takes a lot of self-discipline to put time aside to have fun as well and not be mentally beating yourself up for 'all the money you could be making.'
A-freaking-Men! It's sad because (well I can only speak for myself here but maybe other models feel this way too) I feel like even when I put in the amount of hours I committed to in my head AND and I have a great day/week/month/whatever and surpass the goals I've set for myself, I STILL feel guilty, like I should be doing more. Logically you know that you need to give yourself a break to unwind or else you will burn yourself out and not make anything At All, but when that money starts coming in it is so addictive, it's never enough. You feel you are never doing enough no matter how committed you are. One week last month I set a high goal for myself just because and ended up making almost twice what I wanted to that week. And you know what? I still beat myself up thinking that I should have worked more hours. It's like I can never just enjoy my work accomplishments anymore, I am always secretly scheming and plotting how I can one-up myself.
SarahTime
02-28-2012, 01:56 PM
You may end up in threads like this, thinking to yourself: "Dude WTF? I don't feel like this / hate my job this much / feel so damaged by my job / feel like my job has ruined my life and my every interaction with the male species at all".
I think when this thread was started back last August, there was a big influx of girls coming to SW to get info on camming and how great and awesome and perfect it was. So this thread applied differently at the time it was created. It was more "in context", if that makes sense.
amberose
02-28-2012, 02:14 PM
Even if you've committed yourself a million times over via a blood ritual sacrifice to work x number of hours this day or this week, your brain will still attempt to sabotage your attempts as soon as you wake up. You will repeat camming mantras in your head just so you can put your makeup on and clean your toys. You will make insanely detailed lists about how you're going to structure your day, just so you can discipline yourself to be on cam on time. You will be home most of the time, and even though you know you should be going out, it just makes it that much harder to cam on the days you go out. Your friends might not understand why your schedule isn't more flexible when you just "work from home" and the more productive you are with camming, the more difficult it is to pursue other life goals, so you constantly wonder if you're managing your time correctly, and have an existential crisis.
Fridays
02-28-2012, 02:53 PM
One week last month I set a high goal for myself just because and ended up making almost twice what I wanted to that week. And you know what? I still beat myself up thinking that I should have worked more hours. It's like I can never just enjoy my work accomplishments anymore, I am always secretly scheming and plotting how I can one-up myself.
this is so me........
Glasses
02-28-2012, 03:49 PM
Idk if someone already posted this or not.
When you will be hit by a charge back. Maybe by a huge one.
1. hard earned money taken back, ofc it hurts
2. you will be looking at the chart, thinking: yeah, this was the one when I was doing myself with my biggest dildo for 20 minutes. At the end I was willing to gag on it for minutes too. And I was doing it for free!
Ofc there are sites that won't do CBs, but if you are not on them, or not only on them, you will experience this sooner or later.
(If you are really paranoid, from time to time, you will think this: The bastard. I'm sure he recorded me, and then he asked his money back. He saw it for free, and now he has it as well. He must think that it was a very good trick! )
JoJoX
02-28-2012, 05:13 PM
I'm sorry but I respectfully disagree with the OP and most of you.
IMO, camming is absolutely fun.
First off, ANY job requires a little bit of hard work- people don't get promotions, get paid for no reason. On that note, the potential is unlimited.
You make your own hours, if it's slow, log off and try again later, you have 24 hours in a day. Just like dancing, there will be excellent days, there will be bad days- in fact, thats called life.
No matter what job you have, money will come and go and you have to manage your money.
So many people in this world would KILL to work from home! There are people who are unemployed because they cant get to and from work..if you get cabin fever, go out and jog, plan a weekly play date with a friend, stranger or boyfriend, get a dog that you can walk, go to dog parks and meet others- go volunteer. something.
And as far as the Vag problems...you dont have to abuse your vagina to get on top. Working hard does not mean pushing your personal health to the limit. Girls on page 3 of MFC home page are the ones shoving weird objects in their pussy vs girls on page 1 being fun, playful and being theirselves, you dont see any of those girls breaking their own rules for a measly token. you dont have to hurt your kitty for a buck. do whats comfy to you- these guys are fucking lucky to even see what it looks like.
As far as the name calling- Its a flat out joke to take such things so seriously- internet beef? come oonnn....these verbal "abusers" sit on the internet all day to insult cam girls? Is it me or does this sound pathetic? its pure comedy and i never understood why cam girls take it so seriously- ive been called big nosed, 13 year old tits, nigger, slut,whore and then some and all I do is laugh because its pathetic that someone actually sits in my room when theirs 100s of other girls online and say nasty things to me to make their low lives feel better. these are a bunch of insecure freaks and maybe their life sucks, maybe their puppy died- who knows? You guys need to seriously let it go.
And yes, you answer the same questions over and over- its part of the interaction- interacting with your viewers is a must. even if its a dumb question, answer it. these guys want you to notice them- that pays off. dont you SAY the same thing over and over while dancing? in sales in general? dont you have to say "welcome to mc donalds" over and over? any job that requires customer interaction requires repeating yourself.
This job has a lot of freedom that a lot people seek. I could not imagine myself being obligated to someone above me. This job pays you to enjoy yourself- though I still love to dance, I enjoy myself so much more on cam- I get paid to have fun and pleasure myself in my own home. i can get up and eat anytime i want, i can take marijuana breaks, and NO ONE can put their hands on me.
yes camming can be hard and fustrating but it takes time and there is an unlimited growth potential. some girls even became mini celebs (howard stern) and all that pays off.
playboymegan
02-28-2012, 06:10 PM
I would love for you to expand more on your point, I am really confused right now. The human experience is a large and vast thing. I understand that you try your hardest to educate the people around you to not make generalizations but it is my personal opinion that you are really simplifying what is currently being said. Just because it hurts when people talk rudely to you in your chat room, doesn't mean you have no respect for yourself. I've worked tech support in the past which is essentially a job where you are paid to sit there and be called every name in the book. It is pretty comparable in a lot of ways, except I get to keep my clothes on.
When I watch a movie at the theatre I don't think long and hard whether or not the actor/actress was REALLY scared during that last scene. I am there to be entertained. I am truly baffled with why 'faking it all all the time' is a bad thing.
And to make the generalization of 'man haters' based on anything that has previously been said in this thread. That is the part I would like you to elaborate on the most.I put quotations around the part that others have said to me or I've heard others say before. i do NOT think that at all. None of the things above apply to me and almost all of the things the OP posted do not apply to me either. They are generalizations about adult entertainers that are false in some cases, and imo, shouldn't be made. ESPECIALLY by a cam girl herself.
playboymegan
02-28-2012, 06:16 PM
I personally did not imply any of these things when I started the thread.
oh wait, I said " its normal to hate your job" but I put a smiley after that, so I thought whoever reads that understands its a bit of a joke/ funny statement...
I did not say it is like this for everyone, I said it is like this for me, after doing it on MANY sites for a LONG time.... eventually those things happen.. if some models are lucky enough and do not experience any of these "negative" aspects of camming... thats great.
The majority does experience at least SOME of those things... and to prove that is the 5 pages of posts not only agreeing but adding to the thread..
It is what it is. and it is adult work and the " world" does not agree with it and thats why no matter how much we can sit here and say " but I LOVE IT!!!... look, I make money!!.. Look, I am having fun!!,.. Look, I have great customers..!.. Look! I have my own schedule!"... most people will reply...." whatever, whore, get a "real" job.."
oh and btw.. I love men!! LOOL. I wish I had a harem of them...
just rambling....
I wasn't talking specifically about you or quoting the ladies in here, although many of them said things similar to some of the quotes I posted.
You did make a generalization when you named the thread "For all newbies... if you wonder how camming is like..." then posted a bunch of stuff. That is NOT what ALL newbies can expect. If that's what you go through, it's okay to share your story. But I don't think it's okay to say that it's what "camming is like." Because it's not like that for me, or for other girls in this thread who it doesn't relate to.
ashskye
02-28-2012, 06:27 PM
You will become a master procrastinator, and you will cycle between feeling incredibly lazy and impossibly productive. Because you don't have to worry about getting fired if you decide not to log in, you will find excuses to avoid getting on cam. You will see the earning potential and you will think to yourself, "I'll just take today off and work extra hard tomorrow to make up for it." Yet one day inevitably turns into two, three, four...The more days you take off, the more unmotivated you will become to get back on cam. Then when your bills are due and you want to get your hustle on, you'll realize how unpredictable your daily earnings can be and you will drive yourself nuts trying to make your goals. You will go on camming binges that can last for days or weeks that are physically and mentally draining to make up for all the time you took off. You may reach your financial goals but you will tire yourself out in the process, so you will find any excuse to avoid getting on cam. Aaaaand repeat.
You will realize that working from home and being self-employed without having to commit to a set schedule requires a LOT more motivation and discipline than you ever imagined. You will be your own boss and while it sounds nice because you "think" you are in control, you will become frustrated that the amount of time and effort you put into camming will not always be reflected in your paycheck. Some days you will do everything in your power to achieve your goals, and you will become utterly disheartened when you barely make anything. You will doubt yourself and wonder how much longer you can put up with not having a predictable source of income, yet the thought of going back to work in a traditional job scares the hell out of you because you are accustomed to and even spoiled by the independence you have with camming.
*Sighhhh* This is exactly me right now. So freaking true. Now I think I'm finally falling into some self discipline and actually working the hours I planned to, and making the money I knew I could. It's hard work all around though!
CourtneyRaine
02-28-2012, 06:39 PM
@JoJoX I absolutely agree with you that camming can be wonderful and fun. I would not have been doing it this long if I truly hated it. I am trying to transition away from adult work but I suspect that even when I am able to make a comfortable living not having to get naked for money, I will probably still cam part time. I have some customers that I honestly enjoy chatting with. Sometimes I do shows and I feel psyched that I just made a boat load of money doing something I actually liked and had fun with. I get my ego boosted (almost) every day, and I get paid to do what I would be doing in the comfort of my own home anyway.
That being said, I think this thread is very important for newbies or girls/guys who are drawn into the promise of "Make up to $2,000+ daily!" Yes, you can make that much money. And yes, it does come with a price. There are so many ads out there glorifying cam work, and while there are many postives to this jobs, there are two sides to every story and I think this thread has done an awesome job of showing that it ain't always sunshine and rainbows. I hope I don't come off as rude but I think if anyone says they are 100% happy with their job day in and day out all the time no matter what, they may not be telling the whole truth. Overall I am quite happy with the independence that camming has afforded me. Also, I have experienced some drawbacks that I never would have imaged I'd go through when I was first starting out. For me, camming is still worth it, but I think it's only fair to give newbies the pros AND the cons so they don't go jumping into this career blindly.
h0ttie
02-28-2012, 06:58 PM
That being said, I think this thread is very important for newbies or girls/guys who are drawn into the promise of "Make up to $2,000+ daily!" Yes, you can make that much money. And yes, it does come with a price. There are so many ads out there glorifying cam work, and while there are many postives to this jobs, there are two sides to every story and I think this thread has done an awesome job of showing that it ain't always sunshine and rainbows. I hope I don't come off as rude but I think if anyone says they are 100% happy with their job day in and day out all the time no matter what, they may not be telling the whole truth. Overall I am quite happy with the independence that camming has afforded me. Also, I have experienced some drawbacks that I never would have imaged I'd go through when I was first starting out. For me, camming is still worth it, but I think it's only fair to give newbies the pros AND the cons so they don't go jumping into this career blindly.
This is pretty much what I was going to post right now.
Camming is great in a lot of ways, but there are also many aspects of it that (for lack of a better word) SUCK. lol
When I started camming I didn't have any idea what the downsides would be. I feel like anyone who reads this thread before they start camming or while they are very new is so lucky!!
There are a lot of negatives listed here that I have never experienced, some that I experience everyday, and some I only started experiencing after a few years of camming. But I think it's great that this thread is here so new girls can get some insight on the crappy things they might be dealing with.
Incantatious
02-29-2012, 01:25 AM
I think when this thread was started back last August, there was a big influx of girls coming to SW to get info on camming and how great and awesome and perfect it was. So this thread applied differently at the time it was created. It was more "in context", if that makes sense.
I understand. :)
I think I have the biggest problem with the: "You will"'s of this thread; "you will" is the most absolute way of pointing out possible eventualities of working as a camgirl. I don't have any problem with, as very many people have very kindly done, pointing out possible eventualities, personal experiences, and shedding light as a way of alerting newbies to these as a way of broadening her understanding of how this job works, and of better ensuring that this job really is for her: it's all a part of the much needed learning process.
However, people have latched onto the prefix of "you will", I'll assume because it carries with it the weight of authority and exudes a sense of experience: there is a blunt definitiveness to the way people write these things in short, direct, choppy sentences. It is very 'no nonsense', 'no beating around the bush here ladies'... I'm not saying it's intended to provoke negativity, or even deliberate. But extremes like winding up hating half the fucking human species can prey on the psyche of some, because it's incredibly extreme and would be so detrimental to whomever feels that way.
The way I look at it, if you are convinced you'll cry, you will cry; if you are convinced you'll wind up hating men, you will wind up hating men; if you are convinced that you will wind up second-guessing yourself and even your deservedness, then - you will. The likelihood of those being a reality for you could be increased if you have are pre-disposed to manipulation, and have a bunch of other people in the same job echoing these sentiments back to you.
The things which bother some people, don't bother me in the slightest. Before I started camming, I was of course alerted to the famous, "bb" for example. I was fully prepared to start seeing red when I started getting called "bb". Post-cam experience: I barely notice I'm being called it. I've grown fond of using it myself because it enables me to respond much quickly to the guys. The only way "bb" actually really pisses me off, is when it's contained within THIS horror:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGKUFOjEAo
This makes my BRAIN malfunction... If she was up in my room, she'd be banned instantly.
LAChloe
02-29-2012, 02:06 AM
I've worked in the corporate world, I've danced, and I've cammed.
Hmmmmm...I had a long drawn out reply to this post but the bottom line is- Camming is so much better than dancing for me. I thank God everyday that I found camming. I wish I would have figured this out years ago. The young girls on here like Leah, Hayden, Glam, and H0ttie (I know I am forgetting a bunch but it is late)...you are so lucky. If you save your money now, you could be so ahead by the time you are in your thirties.
The bottom line is---it really doesn't suck. The money I am making and the fact that I am making it in the privacy of my own home---I am so lucky.
One thing I will say is---in a vanilla job or dancing or any other job besides camming, if you hate a customer, your boss, or a coworker, you have to deal with them. With camming all you have to do is hit the ban button and you have just eliminated any stress you do not want to deal with. How wonderful is that?
shywebcamgirl
02-29-2012, 08:31 AM
I put quotations around the part that others have said to me or I've heard others say before. i do NOT think that at all. None of the things above apply to me and almost all of the things the OP posted do not apply to me either. They are generalizations about adult entertainers that are false in some cases, and imo, shouldn't be made. ESPECIALLY by a cam girl herself.
Um, I am still confused. If it applies to me then it isn't a generalization. But I am not allowed to say something personal, even if I make sure to label it as my own personal opinion because it can be considered a generalization of someone else?
shywebcamgirl
02-29-2012, 08:46 AM
For the record, I *love* my job. LOVE! LOVE! LOVE!
That being said, I don't particularly enjoy how it ends up making me an outsider to the majority of society. In my travels, I once became friends with a funeral director and they had express the exact same thing about their job to me. Since it is outside the realm of most people's life experience and not talked about positively in society when people find out what you do people always seem to have this mixed reaction of awe, fear and disgust.
When I worked at McDonalds, I only got the disgust part. ;)
Since we live in a society that the second question most people ask you after what is your name is 'so what do you do?' it can be a hard deal when it comes to socializing with other people.
So yeah in summary, "PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWERS! Itty-bitty living space."
playboymegan
02-29-2012, 09:30 PM
Um, I am still confused. If it applies to me then it isn't a generalization. But I am not allowed to say something personal, even if I make sure to label it as my own personal opinion because it can be considered a generalization of someone else?
There's not much to be confused about, but I'll try to explain it better. If you say, "this happens to me on cam, it might happen to you." That is a personal experience and not a generalization. If you say, "Expect to hate men." That would be a generalization, because not ALL cam girls can expect that.
Some of the posts here were personal experiences, some of them were false generalizations and assumptions that all camgirls experience the same thing or will go through that experience.
I hope that cleared up any confusion you were having. :)
BabyLove1981
02-29-2012, 09:34 PM
You will become a master procrastinator, and you will cycle between feeling incredibly lazy and impossibly productive. Because you don't have to worry about getting fired if you decide not to log in, you will find excuses to avoid getting on cam. You will see the earning potential and you will think to yourself, "I'll just take today off and work extra hard tomorrow to make up for it." Yet one day inevitably turns into two, three, four...The more days you take off, the more unmotivated you will become to get back on cam. Then when your bills are due and you want to get your hustle on, you'll realize how unpredictable your daily earnings can be and you will drive yourself nuts trying to make your goals. You will go on camming binges that can last for days or weeks that are physically and mentally draining to make up for all the time you took off. You may reach your financial goals but you will tire yourself out in the process, so you will find any excuse to avoid getting on cam. Aaaaand repeat.
You will realize that working from home and being self-employed without having to commit to a set schedule requires a LOT more motivation and discipline than you ever imagined. You will be your own boss and while it sounds nice because you "think" you are in control, you will become frustrated that the amount of time and effort you put into camming will not always be reflected in your paycheck. Some days you will do everything in your power to achieve your goals, and you will become utterly disheartened when you barely make anything. You will doubt yourself and wonder how much longer you can put up with not having a predictable source of income, yet the thought of going back to work in a traditional job scares the hell out of you because you are accustomed to and even spoiled by the independence you have with camming.
OMG. THIS made all over. My Husband I started Oct of this past year. We made hella bucks the first few months and by January we felt like.......^^THIS^^. I mainly became the major procrastinator and we mainly do couples so eventually I used every excuse NOT to get on. I was so damn tired. It seems like such a glamourous job and fun at first until it actually becomes WORK. And the money is sooo appealing its hard to get away from. But all of what CourtneyRaine said ina nutshell. Damn its us MADE ALL OVER! Thank you for reminding me its not JUST me =P
Fridays
02-29-2012, 09:51 PM
well I think in camming's case the exception does not make the rule.
if out of 100 girls , more than half ( its much more than half, lol )..experience things that are mentioned in this thread then rest sure that is the rule.
and if it already happened to more than half of the models, then.... the rest should expect it.
As in " it it very possible it will happen to you too".
Its coming..... sooner or later.
so the positive part is.. now u can be prepared and know it is not just you... and its not your fault.
this is for camgirls who cam for a living..many hours a day.... many days a month..
not camgirls who cam 1 hour a day , 1 weekend a month...thats diff....
LAChloe
02-29-2012, 09:57 PM
That being said, I don't particularly enjoy how it ends up making me an outsider to the majority of society. In my travels, I once became friends with a funeral director and they had express the exact same thing about their job to me. Since it is outside the realm of most people's life experience and not talked about positively in society when people find out what you do people always seem to have this mixed reaction of awe, fear and disgust.
People talk negatively about funeral directors? I have never heard of that. I am trying to figure out what possibly people could find wrong with funeral directors? Hmmmmmm?
playboymegan
02-29-2012, 10:08 PM
well I think in camming's case the exception does not make the rule.
if out of 100 girls , more than half ( its much more than half, lol )..experience things that are mentioned in this thread then rest sure that is the rule.
and if it already happened to more than half of the models, then.... the rest should expect it.
As in " it it very possible it will happen to you too".
Its coming..... sooner or later.
so the positive part is.. now u can be prepared and know it is not just you... and its not your fault.
We'll have to agree to disagree on the rule and exception thing.
If more than half the models agree that camming is not fun, that doesn't mean that new models should expect it not to be fun. I've been camming for two years and I have a blast on cam. Whenever I think of a new game to play, I can't wait to get on and play it with my guys. I believe if there is even one model that enjoys it, it shouldn't be "expected" for it not to be fun. Agin, we'll have to just disagree on that.
If I would have read this thread before I started camming, I would have went in it with a sour attitude. When you go into something with a bad attitude, usually the outcome is bad. I went into camming EXPECTING it to be fun, expecting great guys in my room, expecting to make money, and all of that is true for me now.
" As in " it it very possible it will happen to you too"-If you would have said that, I would agree with you. It is POSSIBLE, but shouldn't be EXPECTED.
"Its coming..... sooner or later."-That's an assumption that is not always correct.
playboymegan
02-29-2012, 10:09 PM
People talk negatively about funeral directors? I have never heard of that. I am trying to figure out what possibly people could find wrong with funeral directors? Hmmmmmm?
Why am I not able to "thank" you?
Edit: weird, it's there now. Maybe just a spasm with my comp.