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Elvia
09-24-2011, 12:00 PM
[quote=skwadim;2211010]Hmm, well that's some Holden Caulfield stuff, but thats a pretty expensive one on one conversation quote]
It happens all the time in the sex industry. All the fucking time. There are tons of lonely people looking to the sex industry primarily for relief from lonliness. We all deal with it every day in the form of guys who have no intention of buying any sexual services and just want to talk our ear off all night.
Kellydancer
09-24-2011, 12:34 PM
I am older than most of the women here so I speak from an older woman who passes as much younger. First off, I want a nice guy and looks are still important but not the most important. However, he needs to be in decent shape. I will not give the time of day to obese men, sorry. I do think that many so called nice men really aren't. I've meant so many who were just as jerky as other guys. I've also met men who were clingy and to me this is not cute at all.
Guys, if you are overweight, unattractive and much older, you will only get a hotter girl if you pay her. Why men think that younger women like older men I have no idea but I see this on many sites. On dating sites I always see 40 year old guys looking for18-25's and the chances of you getting a woman in that range is slim unless you are hot and wealthy. If you are average in all respects, as most men are you will NOT get a young woman interested in you. Don't listen to the dating sites that tell you this is possible.
As women age their priorities change. Now I want a good guy without a lot of baggage and a career. Back when I was younger I wanted a rich hot guy. Even now I see women wanting a man who makes a lot to support them and this is wrong. I suspect as these women get older they will become more realistic about this. I want a guy with a career, especially since I am a woman with a career, but do not expect to be supported.
Why are these types of questions even coming up? Guys, the chances of you dating a stripper are slim. I dated one customer but he was 4 years older than me. The chance of an older, overweight guy with little money dating a dancer? Let's say I have a better chance of becoming Pope than this happening.
skwadim
09-24-2011, 01:31 PM
[quote=skwadim;2211010]Hmm, well that's some Holden Caulfield stuff, but thats a pretty expensive one on one conversation quote]
It happens all the time in the sex industry. All the fucking time. There are tons of lonely people looking to the sex industry primarily for relief from lonliness. We all deal with it every day in the form of guys who have no intention of buying any sexual services and just want to talk our ear off all night.
Sure, I get that, but still come get what you paid for. Just don't see why its gotta be an either/or scenario.
cherryblossomsinspring
09-24-2011, 02:33 PM
I think you might want to take a break from extrapolating conclusions from single line statements, and think a little bit more about context. I said the wallet connected to human being thing to simply explain why a thought of 'oh hmm it would be nice to have sex with this sexually attractive woman' might arise.
Commenting that strippers should acknowledge guys are human beings in SC's is not the same as saying I walk in hoping to find my true love.
Saying that I have thoughts once in a while about having sex with a stripper that I'm attracted to, OTC (even though I know there's little to no chance of it happening) is not the same wanting to "get laid for free"
For whatever reason you operate in absolutes, believe it or not, I actually think there's a middle ground of being attracted to a stripper (or any woman really) wanting to have sex with her, not having it be completely meaningless, but not walking out of there with a fiance either.
Sounds like the GFE experience is what's up your alley. $300-$800 for the hour should be fine. There are escorts on this board perhaps you need to locate one of their sites. Now the last part you put sounded just fine, but you didn't ask this now did you. You left it vague on purpose because you wanted a broad range of responses from women mainly. If you want sex with any woman to be meaningful, then you actually have to mean something to them. So sex shopping with emotions for free doesn't fit in the SC for old men. Sorry to break the news to you there. Again you're age is loud and clear here for old men always want these young women to FEEL for them in some weird way. Yet they are repulsed by women their own age even though most ladies age gracefully.
Also again it's funny how once you realized you were talking to a "customer" you changed your tune. I guess you didn't realize it was a female and I'm pretty sure her opportunities are quite different then yours when it comes to OTC encounters.
And who says "yikes" that's not from the 1950's?? Seriously the way you dodge my questions about looks and age says volumes. So yes you put this up because you want to get laid by this hot "little lady". Even the whole thought that what's the point in a vip without sexual play? Again. Old thinking.
A young guy generally will not have a thread like this going for a whole month meanwhile avoiding the answers he doesn't like. Stubborn much? Ohh and when he's feeling caught with his pants down , doesn't tend to turn things around and say it's not me it's you who has the problem. lol That was a cute move but again I only see this with men within your age range since I talk to men by phone generally between the ages of 57-80yrs old. They don't take rejection well from younger women, but you would think they would stop hitting on younger women in the first place? It's funny how they all want to be different but end up coming out sounding exactly the same. Even their attempted pick up lines are the same. They all approach you in the same creepy skin crawling , wanting to vomit way. Uggh the though makes me light headed.
I will say there are some older men that are just amazing!! I mean just so cool and down to earth. They are not the majority. I think they are actually out there living life, doing things and enjoying their age and all of the things they've learned. They are open to change and looking at life through young eyes. These men are a breath a fresh air because their age doesn't even leak through. It's like they've discarded the old worn canvas and have prepared one anew. I've laughed so much with these men because they just get it. They may have mentioned meeting me but they usually say "I'm too old" you should be with someone your own age. To me they come across selfless which is so wonderful when dealing with anyone.
They don't lie to themselves about the truth. I really can't say enough about these guys. There are one of a kind.
So they ^ do exist but generally are a rather rare breed of older men.
Now you come back answering each "customer" with a "don't you wish, hope dream, fantasize about being with a dancer". The only problem is that's not what your post is asking. You can dream as hard as you want. Generally you are (if things still work there) hahah! Just kidding:) But you appear to be asking how to make it happen. I believe you received fair and honest responses but you continue to bob and weave around them like you're trying to win a boxing match.
Now the old ugly sloppy guy that wants to pick up a dancer for free has 00000 chances. Old , ugly and sloppy is not attractive because if it was you wouldn't be at the SC , you'd be at the nearest senior citizen center trying your next hand at bingo.
If you're strong enough to face the truth and not dodge it check out this thread:
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=159387
But you're so stubborn and don't want your fantasy to be crushed. So avoid that thread and continue on dreaming. Just tip responsibly please:) :P
I will add that you are very well written this will never be disputed. However regardless of how well someone writes, their personality, age and experiences still bleed through. You may not be aware of it, but through your writing your age is clear on how you think. Times change but generally as people age, the way they think does not. Ohh and you don't have to write like : tHIZ 2 GET YOR POINt aCRoZZ. LOL
Kellydancer
09-24-2011, 02:46 PM
Cherry, great post, though I will admit I sometimes say "yikes". Everything you said was on the mark. I'll never understand these older men who are repulsed by older women though they are far more repulsive. I have meet many attractive older women but way more unattractive men than women at the same age.
cherryblossomsinspring
09-24-2011, 02:49 PM
"customer = walking wallet."
how 'bout you say that to every customer that walks in - lemme know how that works out for you?
stripper= can I bend you over for free with emotions?
how about you say that to a dancer after walking in- let me know how that works out for you?
Elvia
09-24-2011, 03:28 PM
[quote=Elvia;2211372]
Sure, I get that, but still come get what you paid for. Just don't see why its gotta be an either/or scenario.
It doesn't have to be. I'd picture it more as a scale. Some customers are primarily there for a sexual experience, some are there in search of emotional intimacy in the form of attention and conversation. Some want both, but to varying degrees. When I was a dominatrix I also got clients who didn't want to play at all, and just wanted to sit and talk with me. They just enjoyed being with someone they could be open about their kink with. Or maybe they would want to play one day, and just come in to talk the next time. A lot of girls on this site have customers that pay them money to sit and talk with them for an extended time.
rickdugan
09-24-2011, 04:37 PM
Hmm..... So you not believing that I hear young women frequently complain that their boyfriends are jerks somehow equates to me having issues? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. /:O
Girls complain about their boyfriends all the time, as well as countless other things. It does not mean that all of these guys are truly jerks. Also, the girls that you hear complaining are not necessarily representative of the dating population as a whole.
Your comments sound like they are coming from some high school kid rather than a grown adult who has had real experience in the dating scene. You sound bitter and insecure, which btw are also not attractive qualities to the opposite sex.
All else being equal, if your only issue is that you are a nice guy then finding a date should not be too tough. Something tells me, however, that you may have other issues as well. ;)
You know, I have just decided that since the poster who I originally quoted with my observation has acknowledged what I have to say, that there is no need to try and explain myself to anyone else who forms ridiculous assumptions about me based on a couple of sentences. Don't even bother replying because I won't be here to read them.. peace out!
Don't tease.
simple(headed?)guy
09-24-2011, 04:38 PM
I have meet many attractive older women but way more unattractive men than women at the same age.
Yep. To paraphrase a favorite comedian;
Women age like fine wine, men age like milk.
;D
anouk.oui
09-24-2011, 05:38 PM
"customer = walking wallet."
how 'bout you say that to every customer that walks in - lemme know how that works out for you?
oh honey, youre not a businessman now are you?
XD
yoda57us
09-24-2011, 07:12 PM
"customer = walking wallet."
how 'bout you say that to every customer that walks in - lemme know how that works out for you?
Once again you are confusing what happens in the club with what gets said here. The customer = walking wallet assessment is pretty much dead on. All dancers think that way and any customer with a clue also understands this. It doesn't mean that dancers are walking around the club telling guys that they are only getting naked for money. All interested parties already understand this.
KS_Stevia
09-24-2011, 07:30 PM
Big thank you's to Rick and Yoda. I couldn't say any of this better myself.
Insecure "nice boys" who can't get the time of day from a woman : sex and sexuality aren't bad. Letting a woman know you desire he is not disrespecting her. Playful teasing isn't treating someone like shit.
You're lack of game is what's really showing here. Its a combination of introversion, poor social skills, and lack of physical attractiveness. You are on the lower end of the bell curve. But there is hope, I've seen it happen. You might find a great girl.
First of all, you need to stop shooting for true love with hot strippers, they aren't going to do anything but entertain you for money. Find nice, normal girls within your league, with matching interests. Enjoy the strip club for the fantasy, practice flirting there. Spend money generously but know you are in control of what you spend.
If you don't enjoy the tease, don't go to clubs at all.
JayATee
09-24-2011, 08:19 PM
"customer = walking wallet."
how 'bout you say that to every customer that walks in - lemme know how that works out for you?
You really are this clueless. SMH, you should do yourself a huge favour and just stay out of the clubs all together.
safado
09-24-2011, 08:24 PM
Hmm..... So you not believing that I hear young women frequently complain that their boyfriends are jerks somehow equates to me having issues? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. /:O
Just remember that there are two sides to every story and you are only hearing one side of it. Do you think that is possible that the boyfriends of these women are complaining to someone about what a bitch their girlfriend is?
Kellydancer
09-24-2011, 08:33 PM
oh fuck yeah, Laxman's back!
<3 you Laxman!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep. I think I mentioned in another thread I believe this was laxman aka Cyril aka Bingham. Probably a guy who doesn't spend any money but expects dates.
Kellydancer
09-24-2011, 08:36 PM
Once again you are confusing what happens in the club with what gets said here. The customer = walking wallet assessment is pretty much dead on. All dancers think that way and any customer with a clue also understands this. It doesn't mean that dancers are walking around the club telling guys that they are only getting naked for money. All interested parties already understand this.
See, OP Yoda is a guy who gets it. Dancers aren't doing it to make friends or date, they do it to make money. OP would you do your job for free or in the hopes you'd meet a woman at work?
Hopper
09-24-2011, 08:50 PM
I work in high-contact clubs, so my opinion might be different from the other ladies, but just because a guy pops a boner doesn't mean he's not a "gentleman". To me, that is just expected. I also don't mind touching, and I generally encourage it if the guy seems shy.
Here are some things that creeps/non-"gentlemen" may do: Try to lick/suck my nipples. Play with my nipples in general. Squeeze my boobs HARD (seriously why do guys do this?). Try to move my thong. Try to touch my pussy. Try to kiss me. Try to control the dance. Doesn't tip.
I know what the guy is there for and generally speaking boners and touching are par for the course. This doesn't bother me, if it did I wouldn't be there. If you are polite and respect my boundaries then I will probably think of you positively and enjoy myself.
It's nice to know that this is the case with at least some high-contact dancers. Not that I ever thought there was much point in caring. You mess with the bull you get the horns.
skwadim
09-24-2011, 09:08 PM
I will add that you are very well written this will never be disputed. However regardless of how well someone writes, their personality, age and experiences still bleed through. You may not be aware of it, but through your writing your age is clear on how you think. Times change but generally as people age, the way they think does not. Ohh and you don't have to write like : tHIZ 2 GET YOR POINt aCRoZZ. LOL
Well, golly gee willakers- I am definitely old enough to know when someone's made up their mind about something, no amount of words will change them. So whatever you think is "clear" is perfectly fine. Keep thinking what you do.
I will say you're way off on the age thing, and you won't believe it and in your head you'll have reasons X,Y,Z. Keep clinging to them.
I haven't dodged anything - at least not intentionally. show me what I've dodged.
Nor am I looking for a fantasy or whatever else you've concocted as my rationale. I only asked for people's insights generally speaking, and have repeatedly said I completely understand the job nature of it all, and money being the main driving force behind every SC interaction.
If you don't accept that, then maybe something more than cherry blossoms should blossom in the spring.
The customer = walking wallet assessment is pretty much dead on. All dancers think that way and any customer with a clue also understands this. It doesn't mean that dancers are walking around the club telling guys that they are only getting naked for money. All interested parties already understand this.
I know the assessment is dead on, it seems sarcasm is lost on you. I was responding to that "nawww whats all this about being human?" comment. The fact is anyone who 'hustles' automatically acknowledges that guys are human and are looking for some need to be filled beyond just "service provided" right?
I mean, why else would there be an entire concept of "hustle" with multiple threads devoted to how to 'hustle' ? What is that hustle? convincing the guy you cater to his humanistic needs.
Hopper
09-24-2011, 09:13 PM
I'll never understand these older men who are repulsed by older women though they are far more repulsive. I have meet many attractive older women but way more unattractive men than women at the same age.
I'd say it's about equal. I definitely don't meet many attractive older women. Once women are past their mid 30s it's usually gone. Men are generally more concerned with physical beauty than women are so men have the advantage of being able to appeal to women through their character. Some older women can do this as well, if they have also retained a fair amount of their physical condition.
Women age like fine wine, men age like milk.
I know of many cases which are the reverse.
In SCs I often see about the same number of old, fat or otherwise unattractive dancers and customers.
Hopper
09-24-2011, 09:14 PM
Why is it that Laxman/Cyril/Brigham/Skwadim threads go for so many pages before people realize it, then they keep on going for more pages after that?
Kellydancer
09-24-2011, 09:20 PM
I'd say it's about equal. I definitely don't meet many attractive older women. Once women are past their mid 30s it's usually gone. Men are generally more concerned with physical beauty than women are so men have the advantage of being able to appeal to women through their character. Some older women can do this as well, if they have also retained a fair amount of their physical condition.
Actually, I am 40 and still attractive, I still look close to what I did in my 20's. Because of this I always get hit on. In fact it's the men my age who look more repulsive than the women. Big, fat repulsive men. Contrary to what many men think women still do judge on looks. An attractive woman is not likely to date a repulsive man.
Not to stereotype but the unattractive older women I've met tended to be women who have had kids. By that same token the mostly repulsive men I've met also had kids, but of cource childbirth doesn't mess their figures up. Because I've never had kids I've never had a problem staying or getitng back in shape.
Hopper
09-25-2011, 12:19 AM
^ I don't understand. You are around 40 yo. All 40 yo men are repulsive and most 40 yo women are young and attractive looking? I don't think so. Have you ever been mistaken for 18 yo by a person of that age? I know a 37 yo guy who has, and the other guy was completely surprised by his real age and not even sure to believe it. Being repulsive is not necessarily to do with a man's age. Yes pregnancy often has bad effects on a woman's body but age catches up with all women regardless of whether they get pregnant. If the only way for a woman to keep her looks is to not have children, I'd say it's not worth it, because most women do want children.
Erika Eleniak age 42
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/2010ErikaEleniakSacramentoAutorama.jpg
Robert Downy Jnr age 46
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Robert_Downey_Jr._2011_AA.jpg
Why this criticism of older people? We are all going to get old. The only question is do we get old and stupid? People who focus on their physical bodies will. People who focus on their physical looks age the worst.
Kellydancer
09-25-2011, 12:27 AM
^ I don't understand. You are around 40 yo. All 40 yo men are repulsive and most 40 yo women are young and attractive looking? I don't think so. Have you ever been mistaken for 18 yo by a person of that age? I know a 37 yo guy who has, and the other guy was completely surprised by his real age and not even sure to believe it. Being repulsive is not necessarily to do with a man's age. Yes pregnancy often has bad effects on a woman's body but age catches up with all of them. And if the only way for a woman to keep her looks is to not have children, I'd say it's not worth it, because most women do want children.
Erika Eleniak age 42
Robert Downy Jnr age 46
No, I am saying that there are just as many repulsive 40 year old men as there are 40 year old women. There are many things I consider repulsive and being fat is the biggest one. Granted all ages can be fat but I see it more with older men than younger men. I've seen so many with wrinkles at that age. I have none and neither does my 63 year old mother.
And yes I am still carded. Men in their 20's hit on me and when they find out I am 40 they are stunned. I do not look my age. Part of it is genetics (my parents look young)but also because I take care of myself. I drink water, don't wear makeup around the house generally, I workout, I eat healthy. In the event I start to look like crap I'd more than likely have plastic surgery. However, I doubt that I'd need it.
Those photos probably not the best examples of aging actors because she's had a lot of work done I've heard and had gotten a lot of sun (common having been on Baywatch)and Downey was on drugs. Also, Downey is darker than her and I've noticed darker people tend to look better as they age, though my mom is blonde and looks 10 years younger easily.
KeithDoxen
09-25-2011, 08:24 AM
Why is it that Laxman/Cyril/Brigham/Skwadim threads go for so many pages before people realize it, then they keep on going for more pages after that?
I'm pretty new so I don't know who Laxman/Cyril is, but I think the reason these sorts of threads go on forever is that they go off-topic and turn into a list of complaints about all the things that men and women dislike about the opposite sex. The topic here was originally "meeting a customer outside the club." But I would say 80 percent of the comments, especially most of the later comments, have nothing to do with that. Instead, you've got men complaining that women prefer alpha males to beta males, and women who are irritated at older/unattractive men who still think they can score with hot 23 year olds. It's kinda fun to read but it really has nothing to do with the original topic, and if this fellow you call Cyril really is involved, I'm sure he knows that he's pushing all the right buttons to veer the conversation in this direction, thus leading to 8 pages of comments.
yoda57us
09-25-2011, 09:01 AM
Why is it that Laxman/Cyril/Brigham/Skwadim threads go for so many pages before people realize it, then they keep on going for more pages after that?
It's a chat board dude. We chat here...
Aurora_Sunset
09-25-2011, 09:57 AM
Quote:
FAIL! Dancers and the like see that second question as the "set up" routine. You will not get anywhere with "what do you usually do after work". It's not subtle at all. It screams "meet me after work"!!!! /end quote
It's more subtle than "let's go back to my place and have sex" thats what I was getting at. There are probably more subtle ways like, "I bet you get real tired after work" or "do you have a long drive?" or stuff like that. basically anything that acknowledges your humanity outside of the club.
Just have to say, no, it's really not subtle at all. Every dancer, probably even ones that worked a single day or two, have heard the "what are you doing after work" line. I've also gotten the "do you have a long drive?" question, with guys saying they live right down the street and I can crash with them "just as friends" if I want... It's not subtle - every dancer knows where it's going. Most dancers get off work between 2am-5am... nobody's after work routine at that time of night is "Well, I'm gonna go walk the dog, and then catch a movie, and then do my grocery shopping, then go sit in a nice cafe..." yeah, no... maybe some girls go home and do laundry or watch a movie on tv or something if they're night owls, but it's not exactly a prime time for innocent activities. If a customer is asking what I do after work, it's because he wants to get with me - what else would he suggest we do after work at 3:30 in the morning? Yeah, honestly, it sounds just as much like a request for OTC activity as a direct question, "Hey, meet me OTC after work?"
I'm not sure why you think that acknowledging her humanity and letting her know you're sexually attracted to her have to or should be the same thing. Most of the time, if a customer in a SC is verbally acknowledging that he totally wants to get with me, it automatically turns me off to any "well-meaning" comments he has to make in regards to acknowledging my humanity. I don't need or want a customer to say anything to me about how much he wishes he could get with me OTC - I would not find it weird if he didn't do it. In fact, I'd prefer it.
If you're buying dances and seeming like you're enjoying yourself, I assume you're sexually attracted to me. I don't need or want to hear about how that makes you wish you could see me OTC, because that then immediately puts my defenses up like "ok, here we go, I have to try to keep the mood sexy while making sure I make this guy realize it's not actually going beyond the club..." Trust me, that's what dancers are thinking the second any sort of "subtle" comment about sexuality comes out of a customer's mouth. Comments like "Damn, you're sexy/I'm so glad I came into tonight/You're doing a great job" are all fine... but anything that hints at seeing her/wanting to see her/wanting to know about her life OTC puts dancers on the defensive. They don't like it.
KS_Stevia
09-25-2011, 12:54 PM
It seems like no matter what we say, they don't seem to get it.
1. Boys, money is the ONLY motivator, not the primary motivator.
2. There is NO LINE you can say to a stripper that will somehow throw her off to the fact that you're horny and want to fuck her as soon as possible. We all know. Even non-stripper females know. You're better off charming her through out the night, gauging her interest, then just inviting her to come home with you. This WILL NOT work for strippers though because strippers will always act like they are responding to you in order to keep the money flowing.
Lesson is = don't try to take a stripper home. "Acknowledge her humanity" like you should be treating EVERY SINGLE PERSON YOU ENCOUNTER IN LIFE iike a human being. Because we all are.
Not every customer treats their strippers like rag dolls, despite what you might think. Actually, running the "you must be tired after work" lame bullshit continously lumps you in the same category as any and every PL.
There is NOTHING you can do, no game you can learn, to take a stripper home. If you had the capacity to take a stripper home from the club, without being sexy, or having money or drugs to offer, you would have already done so...because you would know how to get into the heads of women, not pine over the unwilling, and not behave like a predator..meanwhile keeping your motives direct without dehumanizing her or making her feel like she's going to be assaulted.
Sound complicated? It is a little bit complex. OR...just stop trying to pick up unavailable women who are captive to their job and have to be at least polite to you. just stop, you don't have a chance. Just enjoy your time...with another human being, who is considerably more attractive than you...then go home.
If the above statements make steam come out of your ears, then the strip club is not a good venue for you. I suck as bowling and don't have fun doing it, so I don't go bowling. Many people enjoy the pastime of bowling, whether they are pros at it or really bad, they enjoy the game. if you leave a strip club less happy then when you went in..stop going. Its your discretionary money, spend it on more video games or PUA classes or Real Dolls or your retirement or something. :)
Hopper
09-26-2011, 04:10 AM
It seems like no matter what we say, they don't seem to get it.
1. Boys, money is the ONLY motivator, not the primary motivator.
2. There is NO LINE you can say to a stripper that will somehow throw her off to the fact that you're horny and want to fuck her as soon as possible. We all know. Even non-stripper females know. You're better off charming her through out the night, gauging her interest, then just inviting her to come home with you. This WILL NOT work for strippers though because strippers will always act like they are responding to you in order to keep the money flowing.
Yes, strippers and non-strippers know that men want to fuck them. But like men IRL, not all customers in the SC just want to fuck a stripper they like. I have met many strippers I would like to seriously date. And fuck.
I am not arguing with any of the other things you say. I understand all of that. I don't go to SCs to pick up strippers.
Lesson is = don't try to take a stripper home. "Acknowledge her humanity" like you should be treating EVERY SINGLE PERSON YOU ENCOUNTER IN LIFE iike a human being. Because we all are.
I do think of strippers as regular girls. But I also try to pick up regular girls.
Not every customer treats their strippers like rag dolls, despite what you might think. Actually, running the "you must be tired after work" lame bullshit continously lumps you in the same category as any and every PL.
Agreed. But I still think they appreciate the guys who treat them like human beings. I think they find that a genuine respite considering some of the other types of customers. But I am also wise to the fact that they may just tell me I am "not like most other customers" as part of their hustle.
There is NOTHING you can do, no game you can learn, to take a stripper home. If you had the capacity to take a stripper home from the club, without being sexy, or having money or drugs to offer, you would have already done so...because you would know how to get into the heads of women, not pine over the unwilling, and not behave like a predator..meanwhile keeping your motives direct without dehumanizing her or making her feel like she's going to be assaulted.
Sound complicated? It is a little bit complex. OR...just stop trying to pick up unavailable women who are captive to their job and have to be at least polite to you. just stop, you don't have a chance. Just enjoy your time...with another human being, who is considerably more attractive than you...then go home.
That's why I don't try. Not that I wouldn't ever try, but it's generally doomed because, like you say, in a SC all the girls are nice to you no matter what and flirting with them is more expensive.
If the above statements make steam come out of your ears, then the strip club is not a good venue for you. I suck as bowling and don't have fun doing it, so I don't go bowling. Many people enjoy the pastime of bowling, whether they are pros at it or really bad, they enjoy the game. if you leave a strip club less happy then when you went in..stop going. Its your discretionary money, spend it on more video games or PUA classes or Real Dolls or your retirement or something. :)
To me SCs are just something out of the ordinary and also a convenient way to see naked hot girls. If I want sex, I look somewhere else.
femmefatale88
10-10-2011, 07:53 PM
^^^ Most of the girls I did dances with were more troubled by the lack of a boner than an actual boner, especially since we're talking the very high contact dances of the area..
Why no boner? A boner is a sign of respect in the stripclub. jk
Emanuelle
10-11-2011, 05:06 AM
I think for the most part dancers are really turned off by this whole idea. As soon as you ask it puts us in an uncomfortable position. Most of us go to the club, put on our makeup, our dress & our alter ego, we do our job, which is to make every man who spends time with us feel like the wittiest, most charming man on earth, and then everyone goes back home to their real lives. The whole premise of the place is that it's all about you, so there's very little room for us to actually interact with you organically, which means you're attracted to our alter ego who is just a male fantasy version of our real selves....... You see the problem? Depending on the girl it either signals that she can get a lot more money from you, or it ruins her stripper mojo for a few minutes. I'm not saying it's impossible, but almost. Why can't you just enjoy your time there? Why can't guys just go to a strip club to have a girl strip for him? If you want an escort, or an actual date, there are appropriate places for those things.
Strip Club = girls who strip for you for money
Escort Service = girls who you can pay for sex
Social Life = girls who might actually be interested in you for free