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sierra.
08-29-2011, 09:00 PM
If it's clearly marked as a contact club and the girl doesn't mind dancing there then fine, otherwise there are other choices, like camming - same money, no grabby horrid men who think they can do what they like!
Yeah, that certainly is appealing... I actually was seriously considering camming a few months ago... I almost took the plunge but I just couldn't get over the fact of guys recording shows.
Honestly I still think about it, especially with the way things have been going with clubs in my area!

Athenathefabulous
08-29-2011, 09:12 PM
If it's clearly marked as a contact club and the girl doesn't mind dancing there then fine, otherwise there are other choices, like camming - same money, no grabby horrid men who think they can do what they like!

uhh has it ever occurred to you that camming might be outside of some girls boundaries? being nude on camera (i work topless in the clubs) would be pretty uncomfortable for me. And the idea that men could record it would make it even worse. Dildoing myself on camera would REALLY be pushing my boundaries. I would rather work in a club where my boobs get touched any day while i am topless to having men record me with a dildo in my vag on the internet. And dont even get me started on doing anal... i wont even do that in my personal life.

so dont look down on the girls that work in contact clubs. there are plenty of strippers who look down on you guys. we dont need to perpetuate the cycle. everyone has their own specific boundaries. as long as they are not dong things to put other girls out of business or destroy the industry then i think we should live and let live.

4everresolutions
08-29-2011, 09:16 PM
uhh has it ever occurred to you that camming might be outside of some girls boundaries? being nude on camera (i work topless in the clubs) would be pretty uncomfortable for me. And the idea that men could record it would make it even worse. Dildoing myself on camera would REALLY be pushing my boundaries. I would rather work in a club where my boobs get touched any day while i am topless to having men record me with a dildo in my vag on the internet. And dont even get me started on doing anal... i wont even do that in my personal life.

so dont look down on the girls that work in contact clubs. there are plenty of strippers who look down on you guys. we dont need to perpetuate the cycle. everyone has their own specific boundaries. as long as they are not dong things to put other girls out of business or destroy the industry then i think we should live and let live.

Woah woah woah. I don't think she was looking down on us dancers - she's just saying that if you want to work in the adult industry there are avenues other than dancing. To some girls, being touched is FAR more uncomfortable than being naked, behind a computer screen. Likewise, there are women like you and I who would rather work in a contact club than possibly be recorded dildo-ing ourselves.

I get MissKatie's view. What I don't get are all these retarded ass threads being started in the CusCon area lately. Why the sudden influx I wonder? Who's fourm are we being featured on this time?

Athenathefabulous
08-29-2011, 09:21 PM
Woah woah woah. I don't think she was looking down on us dancers - she's just saying that if you want to work in the adult industry there are avenues other than dancing. To some girls, being touched is FAR more uncomfortable than being naked, behind a computer screen. Likewise, there are women like you and I who would rather work in a contact club than possibly be recorded dildo-ing ourselves.

I get MissKatie's view. What I don't get are all these retarded ass threads being started in the CusCon area lately. Why the sudden influx I wonder? Who's fourm are we being featured on this time?

did you see her first post?:
I don't get it. I'm preparing for a flaming here but imo if you're a stripper, you strip, and that's it. Kissing, touching, anything sexual is an "extra". And if you were happy giving extras why not just escort because surely you would make more money that way? Or as someone else said above, strip AND escort, but do that OUTSIDE the club. I was really shocked when i read on here about clubs where it's ok for guys to touch the girls. Jeez, if someone tried to touch me I'd kick them in the balls!!

i think this is definitely looking down on girls who work in contact clubs. then she sort of ate her words.

and the trolls are coming from here: http://www.totse2.com/showthread.php?7041-Strippers-are-normal-girls-too.

4everresolutions
08-29-2011, 09:27 PM
did you see her first post?:

i think this is definitely looking down on girls who work in contact clubs. then she sort of ate her words.

and the trolls are coming from here: http://www.totse2.com/showthread.php?7041-Strippers-are-normal-girls-too.

Ah, see - I interpreted that as her meaning something a little different than you most likely did. When she said "touching" I'm assuming she means sexual touching - touching that would be illigal in that area. Not touching in general, or touching allowed by the club and local law. As for her comment about being suprised when men touch girls - I'm gathering that she's from the UK, and in her area that's not common practice. More of a cultural thing. I really don't feel anything was ill-intended by her comment. If she'd like to clairify that'd be wonderful.

Thanks for the link. I'm going to go meander over there and see what they're hootin' and hollerin' about.

JayATee
08-29-2011, 09:30 PM
Ah, see - I interpreted that as her meaning something a little different than you most likely did. When she said "touching" I'm assuming she means sexual touching - touching that would be illigal in that area. Not touching in general, or touching allowed by the club and local law. As for her comment about being suprised when men touch girls - I'm gathering that she's from the UK, and in her area that's not common practice. More of a cultural thing. I really don't feel anything was ill-intended by her comment. If she'd like to clairify that'd be wonderful.



Same here. Although in truth I DESPISE being touched at all anywhere.

Kellydancer
08-29-2011, 09:34 PM
To be fair, I see where she's coming from, especially if she is from an no contact club. I just think she worded it wrong. I will say though that everyone has their limits on something but not others. I knew a woman who was a stripper and became a high class escort. I asked her one time and she said she liked that she showed up and no rejection. She also said she preferred sex to anything like kissing. Strange to me but not to her. I've worked clubs and parties and have worked with dancers who thought parties were gross. I also modeled and many I worked with didn't like that either. Personally, I don't like being touched sexually by anyone but that is in real life too.

I don't think one is a whore because they allow men to touch, because sometimes that makes a difference between money and none. I wouldn't even consider a dancer who did bj and hj rarely a whore.

Athenathefabulous
08-29-2011, 09:35 PM
I much prefer to not be touched, but reality is 90% of US scs have touching in the champagne room as the norm.

I dont mind being touched as long as its by a polite big spender (i.e. CR). Its when its 100 small spenders that i feel like im in a petting zoo.

Obvioisly for touching i am not referring to pussy, since that is universally an extra.

4everresolutions
08-29-2011, 09:38 PM
^Same. I don't enjoy it but I do it because that's the reality of the area I choose to work in. It's also why I say I'm a whore by SW standards; seems no one wants to admit that they allow (legal) contact to happen. I feel like the floozy of Stripperweb,....

Athenathefabulous
08-29-2011, 09:48 PM
No you arent. Girls on here lie and exaggerate. Ive met a lot of sw girls in person, and while none were dirty, most are not the super light contact dancers they claim to be. Most are pretty average in terms of contact. I.e. They dont stand out as being the most prudish dancer of any given club.

But, like i said, none were dirty (as far as i know).

DesuvsDeath
08-29-2011, 10:13 PM
Ive met a lot of sw girls in person, and while none were dirty, most are not the super light contact dancers they claim to be.
I think that's probably due to the overall board mentality. Most girls who admit to allowing heavier contact get some sort of flaming or at least a few bullshit posts from another user explaining to her how she's a whore or is dirty.

Seems like most people, even if they have no issue with their personal contact levels... would likely lie on SW just to avoid the BS.

Kellydancer
08-29-2011, 10:20 PM
Just look at the masturbation thread for proof of that (meaning how some girls are attacked for any contact). As much as I always talk about the no contact clubs I danced at, even those you had to sometimes allow touching. I'm not talking pussy but other lighter touching. Mostly things that would not be considered touching now like touching arms and legs. Besides, don't we all know dancers who "accidentally" sucked off men? I know I do :D.

MyButter
08-29-2011, 10:56 PM
On the flip side I think it is slightly unfair that girls who claim to prefer no/limited contact are considered prude? It is all about your comfort level. Some girls are down with contact and some aren't--but it doesn't make them more/less of a dancer. I feel like you really aren't doing anything 'dirty' until you personally feel that you are.

I for one completely misread the masturbation thread and was very opinionated(for which I am very sorry for being--I didn't mean to offend anyone). Conclusively I learned that it is much better to be open minded on this board because after all, we are all dancing under different circumstances.

MissKatie
08-30-2011, 05:17 AM
uhh has it ever occurred to you that camming might be outside of some girls boundaries? being nude on camera (i work topless in the clubs) would be pretty uncomfortable for me. And the idea that men could record it would make it even worse. Dildoing myself on camera would REALLY be pushing my boundaries. I would rather work in a club where my boobs get touched any day while i am topless to having men record me with a dildo in my vag on the internet. And dont even get me started on doing anal... i wont even do that in my personal life.

so dont look down on the girls that work in contact clubs. there are plenty of strippers who look down on you guys. we dont need to perpetuate the cycle. everyone has their own specific boundaries. as long as they are not dong things to put other girls out of business or destroy the industry then i think we should live and let live.

Not looking down on it at all, just expressing my concern at the fact that some girls feel they have to provide contact in order to make money. i make a choice to be a cam girl, and only do what i am comfortable with. I haven't yet found a site i can't make brilliant money on because i don't do anal.

MissKatie
08-30-2011, 05:27 AM
And yes i'm in the UK. There are contact clubs here as well. Honestly not looking down on anyone here, or trying to tell anyone what to do. As a woman it is just abhorant to me to allow a man to put his hands on me unless i initiated and wanted it, so it just surprises me a little that there are places that this is considered the norm. Call me naive if you will, but my comments are not coming from a mean place.

DesuvsDeath
08-30-2011, 03:18 PM
On the flip side I think it is slightly unfair that girls who claim to prefer no/limited contact are considered prude?
OF course this is also an unfair. It's never "fair" to be judged for your personal comfort level...

BUT would it bother you more to be called prude or have someone obsessively replying to your posts calling you a whore and bringing up that you said you allowed customers to do "xxxx" or "xxxx" months after you said it?
Because that's what often happens to girls who admit to allowing contact.
Four months later they're still getting "aren't you the girl who lets guys touch her asshole?" because you mentioned your slightly higher than average income on a totally unrelated thread.

MyButter
08-30-2011, 04:11 PM
Oh, you are absolutely right! I completely agree with what you are saying. It is totally pointless for anyone to admit to doing anything different here. It just sucks that there is so much thoughtless judgement slung around.

DesuvsDeath
08-30-2011, 04:22 PM
It's a little sad, honestly. So many people complain about men/non-stripper women judging us... but we all still judge each other. :P

Aurora_Sunset
08-30-2011, 04:36 PM
http://www.totse2.com/showthread.php?7041-Strippers-are-normal-girls-too.

This forum is so full of fail

4everresolutions
08-30-2011, 04:52 PM
^I know right? They're all talking about how much awesome sex they have and calling each other virgins....I don't get it.

4everresolutions
08-30-2011, 06:31 PM
^I'm so fly....

Aw yea.

KS_Stevia
08-30-2011, 06:38 PM
I don't even get what that board is about anyway? At least stripperweb is pretty self-explanatory, its a place for strippers.

That shit, is it for gamers, developers, [email protected], I don't even get it. Male dominated message boards really personify the sweatpants-boner-octupushands-broke customer...has anyone else noticed?

But it also personifies how many males in the world view and treat women, or want to treat women. its sad.

Brandi_Lynn
08-30-2011, 06:38 PM
lol @ the term career dancers.

i like how you think you could retire from this job.

I like you girls but you need to be real and realize this gig is like a sport.

The older you get the less use the team needs you.


Two words. Screw you

Swagz
09-01-2011, 09:36 AM
Princesses, princesses everywhere

Jay12
09-08-2011, 10:44 AM
For me, I consider extras the following:

_any contact with genitals aside from grinding (eg. hj, bj, fs, etc.) whether on my part or the customer's part
_touching the nipples (my nipples, to be exact)
_kissing on the lips

When I have a customer asking for any of the above, I'd tell him: "oh, make sure to touch my neck/upper back/butt cheeks the whole time, since those are my most sensitive spots". It keeps them away from the forbidden parts; they get the "high" of "pleasuring a pretty girl, I make the money without having to resort to having my privates touched, and we all win.

shanna dior
09-08-2011, 12:55 PM
When I have a customer asking for any of the above, I'd tell him: "oh, make sure to touch my neck/upper back/butt cheeks the whole time, since those are my most sensitive spots". It keeps them away from the forbidden parts; they get the "high" of "pleasuring a pretty girl, I make the money without having to resort to having my privates touched, and we all win.

I do this too! The reason most customers offer when they try to get extras is that they want to give me pleasure too, so turning it back around on them like that is perfect. With my nipples especially, I say they're VERY sensitive to the point of it hurting if they're touched roughly.