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MissSassyPickles
02-16-2013, 01:31 PM
Tease Cam Girls is a MFC studio according to the thread about them right? If you haven't actually performed on cam yet you should be able to get out of it.
Snowy0Star
02-16-2013, 02:02 PM
Tease Cam Girls is a MFC studio according to the thread about them right? If you haven't actually performed on cam yet you should be able to get out of it.
i just did a search on them and i couldnt find anything relavant other then this thread and this one http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?169366-TeaseCamGirls-Hiring&highlight=TeaseCamGirls but they dont say that they're a studio at all. If she hasnt loged in there and made any money yet then she should just sign up with MFC directly if Tease Cam Girls is a studio for MFC.
ShayBaby
02-16-2013, 07:25 PM
well i performed a little. did like a few hours here and there on mfc...it was weird. the guy had me sign up with teasecamgirls. then he said i get a paycheck sent. i signed the online signature, filled out the tax purpose stuff...then he had me create a profile at MFC. And i didn't really make anything hardly. it came to like 50 bucks altogether. then he told me that site does better in the morning. so he was gonna switch me to another site and i had to go and create an account there..at chatterbate.com. at that point i was suspicious and researched, finding what you guys wrote and I was like 'aww shit' lol.
I'd like to eventually sign up and just do my own thing with MFC like u guys do. I like camming. I'm a stripper but would like to do a little online stuff from home. But I just wanna keep my money lol, not give 25 percent to tease or whoever
thanks for your help!
Snowy0Star
02-16-2013, 07:32 PM
well i performed a little. did like a few hours here and there on mfc...it was weird. the guy had me sign up with teasecamgirls. then he said i get a paycheck sent. i signed the online signature, filled out the tax purpose stuff...then he had me create a profile at MFC. And i didn't really make anything hardly. it came to like 50 bucks altogether. then he told me that site does better in the morning. so he was gonna switch me to another site and i had to go and create an account there..at chatterbate.com. at that point i was suspicious and researched, finding what you guys wrote and I was like 'aww shit' lol.
I'd like to eventually sign up and just do my own thing with MFC like u guys do. I like camming. I'm a stripper but would like to do a little online stuff from home. But I just wanna keep my money lol, not give 25 percent to tease or whoever
thanks for your help!
It sounds to me like its a one man show. I suggust you sign up with MFC and chatterbate and any other cam site that u can. Try to close ur studio account with MFC and see what happens and if they say ur in a studio and cant try to make a solo account and see what happens. Chatterbate is super easy to make accounts on just make another indie account and ur good to go.
MissSassyPickles
02-16-2013, 10:12 PM
ShayBaby, it sounds like you have an online pimp! (Please take no offense to that). You really don't need anyone to help you signing up to different sites. Get out of this studio ASAP!
You would have gotten more than 50 bucks if you weren't with them! Do you know what your percentage is? MFC takes 50% and the studio take a percentage of that. Some studios only give the performer 10%!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you try to sign up for any other sites and aren't sure if they're a studio just ask on this thread :)
ShayBaby
02-17-2013, 01:20 AM
God you guys are awesome! thanks so so much. I will do that then. I already told him that I'm out.
See I was under the impression at first that HE had a site I would be on. I didn't realize he was just gonna tell me to go on a free site (wtf), so it took me a little while to figure out that mfc is not part of tease. I'll just delete that account I suppose for now.
Again, thanks. I'm really glad this forum is here..for ALL types of adult work. It 's nice we can have a place where we look out for each other. There are so many men out there, (well women too I'm sure) who will try to squeeze what they can from ppl in our business and you really don't need a 'manager'. As a dancer I do everything myself. I pay a house fee but that's it. And the way I see a cam site is like a club. they take a cut to use their site but we do all the work. So what the hell do we need a middle man for?? It's already tough enough and it's not like we can do this forever. We need to save every penny we can.
DarlaSummers
03-01-2013, 10:54 PM
Thought this was informative. This site lists A LOT of different webcam studios. Of course, the site itself is a studio so do NOT sign up with them. But it's informative to know I think.
http://www.pandora-entertainment.com/the-competition-review/
AshleyRed
03-07-2013, 02:03 PM
I would like to work for F4F... and first I've applied for somewhere called 5 Points Model. It approved my ID and verification photo, and afterwards it asked me for a RKC, I did right away and they didn't approve me so far. I was complaining around here and people told me it was a studio! I got so shocked :( But now I'm confused since I saw a girl here saying it's not... is it??
By the way, I've tried again and now at VS Broadcast. I've read here and people told me here it was REALLY for F4F. But I'm so confused because my Stage name was taken (I guess by the studio above). After that, after applying for F4F through VS I've installed the program to work for F4F and they say I'm not activated... even though I am. I think the system got confused because of my "almost complete" application with 5 Points Models?
VS Broadcast could be real for F4F, but I do have a guy named Eddie (there is even his picture and several forms of contact... two phones, yahoo messenger, Skype, e-mail)... it makes me think it's also a cover studio.
I'm so pissed off and confused by this that I guess I'll just give up F4F :( Heck :(
I've applied DIRECTLY at the following websites (please tell me I didn't sign up for any more studios, please T.T)
Cam4
LiveJasmin
Webcams.com
Cams.com
Adult Work
ImLive
iFriends
My Free Cams
Naked.com
Streamate
And also Clips4Sale and My Girl Fund, and thinking about NiteFlirt (all for content sale). And that's it, I don't feel like trying anything else. I'm not crazy of working on every single one of them, but I gotta try each one and find out which is best for me :)
Perllita
03-14-2013, 03:49 PM
Hello,
I was working for a studio on streamate some time ago, but i am very unhappy with their services and i would like to register on my own to work independently. Unfortunately, my application was rejected ;/ I have got an email:
"Thank you for uploading your documents for Perllita
[email protected] Upon review of your submitted documents we found the following errors in these documents:
Performer Agreement:
Age Verification:
Photo ID & Headshot:
We are under agreement in your area currently and are unable to add performers outside of this agreement. Please contact
[email protected] to discuss account opportunities.
In order to complete approval we ask that you correct these errors and upload the documents again."
I would like to know if there any chance to work independently on streamate or after i have worked for a studio now i have no chance to work on my own...
Thanx for help in advance
Perllita
03-14-2013, 03:51 PM
Hello,
I was working for a studio on streamate some time ago, but i am very unhappy with their services and i would like to register on my own to work independently. Unfortunately, my application was rejected ;/ I have got an email:
"Thank you for uploading your documents for Perllita
[email protected] Upon review of your submitted documents we found the following errors in these documents:
Performer Agreement:
Age Verification:
Photo ID & Headshot:
We are under agreement in your area currently and are unable to add performers outside of this agreement. Please contact
[email protected] to discuss account opportunities.
In order to complete approval we ask that you correct these errors and upload the documents again."
I would like to know if there any chance to work independently on streamate or after i have worked for a studio now i have no chance to work on my own...
Thanx for help in advance
Snowy0Star
03-14-2013, 06:12 PM
Hello,
I was working for a studio on streamate some time ago, but i am very unhappy with their services and i would like to register on my own to work independently. Unfortunately, my application was rejected ;/ I have got an email:
"Thank you for uploading your documents for Perllita
[email protected] Upon review of your submitted documents we found the following errors in these documents:
Performer Agreement:
Age Verification:
Photo ID & Headshot:
We are under agreement in your area currently and are unable to add performers outside of this agreement. Please contact
[email protected] to discuss account opportunities.
In order to complete approval we ask that you correct these errors and upload the documents again."
I would like to know if there any chance to work independently on streamate or after i have worked for a studio now i have no chance to work on my own...
Thanx for help in advance
From what I gather this pretty much means ur under contract with a studio still SM found out and wont let you make a direct account. My sugguestion is to email them back and ask what studio ur under (if you dont remember the name ) then try and work with them to get ur account deleted. When I first got into camming I signed up for a bunch of studios from ads in the adult jobs section on Backpage.com and I was lucky enuf to just be able to make another direct account after I closed my old SM account with the studio (probably because I loged into it less then 5 times over a year ago and I'm guessing the studio didnt care about me or I just got lucky and sliped thru the cracks)
loveshooks
03-14-2013, 10:08 PM
Streamate has a bullshit rule that cammers who reside in certain parts of the world must sign up to sm through a studio, they can't do so independently. Based upon the "under agreement in your area" comment in the email you quoted I'm guessing you reside in one of the studio-mandatory nations. If that's the case, you'd receive this response even if this was your first time signing up to the site. That email address is linked to a studio called camreggy, but I think it's possible for you to join a studio that won't take as large a portion of your earnings as that one would.
One option is a service called DailyPay, which charges 3% (or $9 for every $100 you earn) for weekly payouts and 5% (or $15 for every $100 you earn) for daily payouts. That adds to a sizeable sum over time so I understand it's not ideal for many but the percentages charged by that studio are lower than typical cam studios.
info on the Daily Pay studio is located here:
if what I suspect about this being a regional issue is the case then I'm sorry, it totally sucks. You could always try signing up to other sites such as adultwork.com or myfreecams.com which don't have the same sort of bullshit rule about 'studio-mandatory' nations
when Roast comes by I'm sure she'll be able to clarify all this though. If your rejected application was due to your prior studio affiliation and not sm's 'regionally mandated studio' crap, you could try to sign up again using a different email address and form of ID (if possible) than you've used in your last two applications. No guarantee it will work, but worth a try.
Good luck
Perllita
03-15-2013, 12:05 AM
I see, yeah now i understood the case.. They are under agreement in Lithuania and i can apply only thru studio... and that studios sucks here..I worked from home they didnt provide me any services nothing at all and they took 60% of what i earn ..that sucked me out.... anyways, hmmm i am thinking.. What if I write that I live somewhere in Australia or whatever the place where they are not under agreement.. would it be possible to be accepted then???
Thanx
loveshooks
03-15-2013, 02:22 AM
^^^ugh, that's awful. I'm really sorry
the thing about listing yourself as living in a different nation, you'd need ID from that nation in order to pull it off. Identity documents show the nation within which the individual resides, the nation from which you received those documents. If you claim to be from Australia but your ID is Lithuanian....not gonna work :/
look into the DailyPay studio if you have your heart set on working streamate (although I get that this is not ideal if you don't actually want to pay extra to get paid daily), but also consider that sm isn't the only cam site under the sun. It's popular for a reason but many successful cam chicas have never worked a day on sm. It's not your only option if you want to cam but don't want to give a huge percentage of your earnings to some studio that does nothing for you. Check out the different cam sites listed in Roast's first post in this thread (her list of direct sign-up links) and read around sw to learn more about the pros and cons of each option.
I'm like, enraged that this sm 'studio mandatory nations' rule exists. Such bullshit.
Welcome to stripperweb, btw. Just wish we had better solutions to propose in regards to the streamate situation.
carolinajames83
03-15-2013, 08:37 AM
I would like to work for F4F... and first I've applied for somewhere called 5 Points Model. It approved my ID and verification photo, and afterwards it asked me for a RKC, I did right away and they didn't approve me so far. I was complaining around here and people told me it was a studio! I got so shocked :( But now I'm confused since I saw a girl here saying it's not... is it??
By the way, I've tried again and now at VS Broadcast. I've read here and people told me here it was REALLY for F4F. But I'm so confused because my Stage name was taken (I guess by the studio above). After that, after applying for F4F through VS I've installed the program to work for F4F and they say I'm not activated... even though I am. I think the system got confused because of my "almost complete" application with 5 Points Models?
VS Broadcast could be real for F4F, but I do have a guy named Eddie (there is even his picture and several forms of contact... two phones, yahoo messenger, Skype, e-mail)... it makes me think it's also a cover studio.
I'm so pissed off and confused by this that I guess I'll just give up F4F :( Heck :(
I've applied DIRECTLY at the following websites (please tell me I didn't sign up for any more studios, please T.T)
Cam4
LiveJasmin
Webcams.com
Cams.com
Adult Work
ImLive
iFriends
My Free Cams
Naked.com
Streamate
And also Clips4Sale and My Girl Fund, and thinking about NiteFlirt (all for content sale). And that's it, I don't feel like trying anything else. I'm not crazy of working on every single one of them, but I gotta try each one and find out which is best for me :)
Eddie is definitely not a studio but a VS rep - I work with him as well. 5 Points is a studio however. What I've heard often happens is a studio adds a model the same time a model is added by another studio or signs up directly with Flirt. Then it's up to the model to decide which she wants to work with. I'd definitely contact Eddie - he'll clear it up, and the # for VS on Flirt will let you contact him.
You can usually tell a studio by the contact info not being the same as what you'll find on their main site.
carolinajames83
03-15-2013, 08:38 AM
I see, yeah now i understood the case.. They are under agreement in Lithuania and i can apply only thru studio... and that studios sucks here..I worked from home they didnt provide me any services nothing at all and they took 60% of what i earn ..that sucked me out.... anyways, hmmm i am thinking.. What if I write that I live somewhere in Australia or whatever the place where they are not under agreement.. would it be possible to be accepted then???
Thanx
I know a Lithuanian model working directly for VS. Checkout - you shouldn't have problems working for yourself. Now if you were in Romania on the otherhand, well I've heard you have to work for a specific studio then.
xXMamiXx
04-14-2013, 03:32 AM
Thanks for all the input people. I posted yesterday with a dilemma after accidentally signing up with a studio (I had done a fair amount of research, but I honestly thought it was the real deal, as the studio site redirects to a cleverly named web address for the application page and the support email address is likewise cleverly named, to give the impression that it's the 'parent' site)... Nonetheless I am a fool : )
I have tried to sign up directly with the main provider but I think there is a good chance they'll reject it as I emailed the direct site asking what their affiliation was and, even though I used a completely different email and screen name to sign up direct, when I emailed and asked for my application to be expedited there is a fairly obvious name correlation with the email I sent earlier asking about affiliation, that I spotted and tried to change in my email account settings but which didn't update in time when I actually clicked 'SEND' 30 mins later... should have tested it and emailed myself first..! soooo annoying gaaaaah.
That said, it's clear there are several sites out there so there is no point in being disheartened... I am gonna sign up to all the direct sites as I was advised by the kind people here, so at least I have something to work on and try out and earn with, and hopefully in time if I just never use the studio account I'll be able to eventually, sooner or later, get it closed, and I'll get to use the site I wanted...!
I will update you in full once my resolve is tried and tested and succesful or not!
Wish me luck!
Much love x x ; )
roast
04-14-2013, 11:16 AM
Luck wished and your attitude is awesome, just to echo your optimism: hey you never know until youre rejected? Even then you have options
1. you can work in the studio and get 30%. He has some shitty reviews but he also has a few OK ones
2. or ask to be removed:
2a. ideally removed from his studio and then you can sign up indie
2b. or hey he may say no (go back to 1?)
2c. (Or fuck #1) and if he says no, ask if there is a time period when your contract expires or if you need to work a certain period of time before being cancelled.
3. Say nuts to options 1&2 on rejection and try to studio hop into another studio called 'DailyPay' where you would still earn 30% on Streamate but youd be paid 24hrs after you worked. Check the forum for reviews, it is largely positive way more so than MXO but not universally so. Many perfomers are open about being on DailyPay (sometimes abbreviated as DP), some have said they have hopped in and out of DailyPay before (like they skipped out of their studio via DP then after being on DP briefly, signed up indie... or they were on DP for financial reasons, then decided to leave) so you could also PM them for reviews. I cant think of public examples ppl have given offhand (TheBrownFox is one who hopped from a studio into DP and said she's open to questions via PM... and Im sure there are a few others in this thread but unfortunately I cant think of ppl who left DP to be indie on Streamate) so you may need to do an archaeological dig through the forum for names? Sorry about that.
By hopping into DailyPay in order to hop out just note youd have to have a new stage name to hop into DP, then a new stage name/email addy to hop out. So if youve bought a website domain or anything, underscores count as a 'new stagename', so if youre EstherBaggins, you can do Esther_Baggins or even Esther__Baggins and each counts as a new stagename.
If this comment is a hot mess I apologize and feel free to ask for clarification
xXMamiXx
04-14-2013, 12:23 PM
Thanks so much Lovely ; )
DP sounds really interesting for many reasons, I'll look into it!
I'll be back here over the next week with whatever I manage to pull together.
Speak very soon comraaades and thanks again happy grinding x x
Snowy0Star
04-14-2013, 12:54 PM
I agree that if u cant get a solo account or get out of the studio u accidenetly signed up with daily pays the best option even tho it is a studio as well the % they take out is less then normal studios and u get paid everyday
xXMamiXx
04-26-2013, 12:29 PM
Sup people
After a week or so since my post in this thread, it's time for my update following an accidental sign up to a studio...
Following the wonderful advice and support of everyone here, with echoes of 'cancel all studio applications', the reminder that I should try to get my 35% and not 30%, and my own inner voice saying 'daaaamn right', I decided to cancel my application with the studio by email and attempt to expedite my direct application with Streamate.
Thanks so much Roast for massaging the sense of optimism further, since I was approved fairly smoothly!
I had read in the OP of the Streamate thread that if there is one studio and one direct application from one person simultaneously, then they will favour the direct application, however I simply couldn't bank on that so wrote a fair but firm email to the studio to cancel my application and delete all data relating to myself and my screen name (used a different one on my direct application anyway). I can forward anyone the email I wrote if anyone ever wants to use it (it's pretty nice and friendly, really, as they were always quite friendly to me. it just containted an apologetic 'time to get legal' and included a paragraph quoting parts of the contract which state my details will be held on streamate systems etc etc, and advising that I considered maintaining the account but have found a job elsewhere and, since wouldn't have the time to use the account, it wouldn't be in the interest of any involved party to have a stagnant account. Then I just finished the email being super nice again).
I received no reply whatsoever; thankfully, I guess. I also haven't tried to log in again or anything (not that I could before, as my account was still being created. Had they unfairly denied my request, I perhaps would have given them an ultimatum as far as fueling an already tarnished reputation goes. All I can say now is that I heard nothing back, but it seems as though they complied.
I reckon I still would have made good money with the studio based on what I'm making now, but the limitations of a reduced cut and potentially having less control over my rates and how high I can raise them, would have obviously darkened the doors a bit.
Sooo, what I mean to say, is I am super happy with my first week broadcasting on SM as an independent model and getting my extra 5%. I'm new to camming in this context so still working out my groove and boundaries, but the first week has been pretty dope to say the least...!!
thank you sooooooooo much everyone! I have also been researching on this forum super hard (I had my period this week, got approved for Goldshows quicker than I thought, and experienced other such things I didn't know how to move forward with) and without this encyclopedia in the form of SW and the general supportive vibes I wouldn't have been able to cam so confidently this week, nor earn as much for me and my family : ) : )
You are all the best!
mad love to all stay blessed x x ;D
roast
04-29-2013, 01:41 AM
^How did I miss this? FUCK YES! Thanks for the update, Im really happy for you and this is so refreshing and awesome. Thanks for updating us and for pursuing your higher percentage and not backing down, and offering the email you sent to people needing a templat - you rock lady, thanks for keeping us in the loop.
Seriously, thanks for this!
xXMamiXx
05-01-2013, 11:07 AM
Gaaah thanks so much!
Really the pleasure is mine and contributing is the very least I could do to show my gratitude, given all the sharing and caring agwarn up in here! I will do my best to contribute elsewhere for sure.
Much love all : ) x x muaaa
Thank you for all the wonderful info! I'm new here and need all the advice I can get:-*
Perfect10
05-25-2013, 10:59 AM
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Snowy0Star
05-25-2013, 11:10 AM
^popcorns in the microwave....
loveshooks
05-25-2013, 11:21 AM
I'm saying
the irony of a studio advertising in a thread explaining why virtual studios are unnecessary for many cam chicas (those not affected by bullshit 'studio mandatory nations' rules)
this thread and this forum isn't intended to provide free promotion to studios and this thread is too important to get derailed.
/my contribution to the threadjack
sexysusie
05-28-2013, 07:46 PM
registration.online-talents dot com
Am I the only one thinking this looks very suss? Can't find anything about them online
twistedprincess
05-28-2013, 07:58 PM
I'd say it's a studio based upon the fact that A) they talk about how they're your managers B) there is no way to view cams through their site and C) too good to be true claims
loveshooks
05-28-2013, 09:21 PM
It's an agency that works with that xcammy site (there's a thread about it over in II)
I don't think it's a 'parasite' studio for xcammy in that the agency doesn't appear to take a percentage out of the cam chica's earnings (both xcammy and the agency post at 75% payout), but I just reread and yeah, they have 'managing' for other sites as well. I'd guess that they probably get a cut of chica's earnings on those other sites in that not many sites use agencies
not cool if that's the case and if so reflects really poorly on the xcammy site
Jay12
06-05-2013, 07:57 PM
Is this legit? Just wondering, since it has been posted on craigslist a lot. If it's not, I wonder how many naive college girls from TS and UT are becoming victims of this.
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roast
06-06-2013, 07:46 AM
^Definitely isnt legit at alll.
1. The independent sign up for Streamate.com to become a model on Streamate is: http://www.streamatemodels.com/
2. Advertises on craigslist
3. Adverises on craigslist.... a lot
4. Whois info doesnt match Streamate.com's whois info
Craigslist, Backpage, Gumtree, and its sort of free post listing sites equivalents are very often Studio advertisements.
Xanimate
06-08-2013, 07:56 AM
I am new to camming. A personal friend suggested that I go through apparently infamous 1nternetm0deling.c0m. [I've noticed that it's filtered out now, so I modified it, hah] I actually attempted to reseacrh this website before signing up, but couldn't initially find anything ominous about it. I went ahead and signed up, but I had also partially started an app with Streamate simultaneously, but didn't finish it, as IM had been responding faster. I was accepted and have thus far worked 4 days before I noticed that wonderful percentage [the figure was a lie] they were talking about wasn't adding up and I stumbled across this forum...if only I had done so sooner.
I've read that IM binds you to their contract and you cannot directly sign up with SM once you are active with them. However, I have noticed a few individual models on streamate have more than one individual account, so I am wondering if any of you ladies have had any luck getting away from this beast that is IM [aside from DP]. What did you do? Did you not email "Janet" over at IM and just sign up and it worked? Did you cancel IM first then sign up with SM? I'm also worried that if I cancel my account with IM the money I made this week toward the following week will get lost in limbo/not paid to me. Regardless, I'm trying to get away from them asap and since I have only been active a week, I am wondering if I can maybe get away still if I at least try by filling out the rest of my SM app and using a different name?
Nocturnelle
06-08-2013, 09:32 AM
I would just work until the pay period ends and then close your account at IM. I'm not sure where you're located but try searching for Daily Pay? I think Daily Pay works on SM but someone else will have to clarify. Daily pay IS another studio but it is one that a lot of women use here that is reputable and WON'T take a huge chunk of your money. It's better then waiting for SM to re-approve you again.
Sparkly
06-08-2013, 09:49 AM
Kind of beside the point here but how good of a friend is the person who convinced you to sign up? Because it sounds like they just wanted you to sign up through IM to get commission off of you.
Xanimate
06-08-2013, 08:13 PM
I would just work until the pay period ends and then close your account at IM. I'm not sure where you're located but try searching for Daily Pay? I think Daily Pay works on SM but someone else will have to clarify. Daily pay IS another studio but it is one that a lot of women use here that is reputable and WON'T take a huge chunk of your money. It's better then waiting for SM to re-approve you again.
I've researched this option as you suggested, and it is an option that I will definitely attempt to take. I have noted that it isn't foolproof. Of course it certainly couldn't hurt to try. Thank you very much for the instruction! <3
Kind of beside the point here but how good of a friend is the person who convinced you to sign up? Because it sounds like they just wanted you to sign up through IM to get commission off of you.
She was a fellow model actually, and signed up through them as well. She and I have discussed the issue at hand and she cancelled her account today, as did I.
temptingmodel
06-08-2013, 09:42 PM
I am wondering if I can maybe get away still if I at least try by filling out the rest of my SM app and using a different name? Of course you cant change your IRL name so you will be detected. This is the only way out.
HE also does weekly pay.
CourtneyRaine
06-09-2013, 12:02 PM
I'm sorry but I'm going to warn you right now, you don't have a very good change of getting out of IM unless you wait the 12 months after the date of your last broadcast. I know this because I also cammed with them for quite some time. About three months after I stopped camming on SM via IM I decided I wanted to get back on SM directly. I tried going through DailyPay but even they were not able to help me. Basically in my case the issue came down to Janet flat out refusing to release me from my contract. SM support kept saying I already had an account with IM and that once she released me I could sign up with Daily Pay. I exchanged several emails and phone calls with Janet and she told me she had released me but she was flat out lying, as SM would repeatedly tell me I was still under contract with her. Don't expect this woman to be honest or play by the rules. I sincerely think that she hopes within the 12 month waiting period you will get desperate enough for money and go back to IM, thus binding you to them for at least another year all over again. You can try getting out through DP, it has worked for some but I know for a fact it hasn't worked for others, including myself.
As I see it your options right now are:
1. Try to get out of the IM studio by transferring to another studio (dailypay)
2. Continue modeling with IM- I know one girl in particular who does this because even though she hates knowing she is getting ripped off she is overall okay with the amount she is netting on there and doesn't want to go without that income right now
3. Close your account, don't log in AT ALL for a year, and find a new site in the meanwhile
Good luck, I know from personal experience that this situation sucks big ones :(
TheBrownFox
06-09-2013, 12:49 PM
CourneyRaine is right. A while ago I found myself "stuck" with IM (by the way, they only pay 20%), and was told by Janet that if I wanted to switch to Streamate directly, I'd have to wait a full year after my last performance date on IM. It was the dumbest thing I'd ever heard. Having to go an entire year without camming at all on a site? A girl better be camming on some other site(s) in the meantime, if she wants to be able to pay her bills.....
The person in charge of the Streamate daily pay service was able to get me out of that situation with IM , so I was able to join Streamate daily pay and continue working right away...without having to wait an entire year.
sophiesecrets
06-09-2013, 02:37 PM
ouch, that blows.
contract?? dafaq??
there are other sites u may get into. Ive never been that into pvt sites, i like tipping sites like myfreecams and chaterbate, and cam4. i would just say fuck them for now and try something different =)
PrincessLuna
06-09-2013, 02:51 PM
You can get out of IM by joining DailyPay (http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/joomla/). There's been some drama with the owner on the forums, but they're reliable with pay and it's the only way to get around IM. After 6 months you can leave Daily Pay and join SM directly. This is what I did (though I'm still with DP after almost 3 years) and it's the only way that I know where you can still work on SM without being stuck with IM. Daily Pay does take 5% though, but you get paid everyday so it's more convenient than just being outright stuck in a shitty studio.
Vlodina
06-09-2013, 03:00 PM
Daily pay only takes 2% (on streamate) if you opt to be paid weekly rather than daily.
PrincessLuna
06-09-2013, 06:38 PM
Daily pay only takes 2% (on streamate) if you opt to be paid weekly rather than daily.
Oh yeah! Totally forgot about that!
JenniferNorth
06-21-2013, 08:03 AM
Just wanted to say thank you for this! I'm new to the adult industry and almost signed up with IM. If it hadn't been for this thread, I wouldn't have known where to go....so thank you!
luvnrockets
07-08-2013, 09:07 AM
Hey girls-- this is my first post! I was a total n00b idiot and signed up with IM...*sadface*!!!!!
But Daily Pay sounds great! I admit the site doesn't look legit but because you all talk so highly of it I might make the plunge. I have a few questions though...
1. So DP is technically a studio, but SM doesn't recognize it as one? Why won't anyone care that I am under contract with IM and not allowed to work for another studio that uses SM? Won't someone realize that it's the same me with the same SSN? Just want to make sure this is for realz before quitting and redoing everything.
2. Does my new stage name have to be totally different, or can I just add an underscore? I really like my stagename *pout*!
3. Should I cancel with SM AND IM, or just SM, before signing up with DP? Or does it not matter?
4. I'm in the US and DP is UK based-- does it matter? Will they send me a 1099 or do I obtain it elsewhere? Are there other disadvantages to being with a UK based studio?
5. I don't know much about Payoneer, but I wanted to make sure it is free...Don't want to have to pay for every paycheck.
6. I don't care how often I get paid-- daily, weekly, bi-weekly, whatever. I'm in no desperate need for quick cash-- so should I go with Weekly Pay instead? Or is Daily Pay more reliable?
7. A model gets paid 35% on SM, correct (It's not totally clear to me)? So basically, if I'm on DP I'll make 30% and on WP I'll make 33%?
8. Is it really that simple and really that awesome to leave IM and make a lot closer to what straight up SM models make?
Just wanted to make sure before I take the plunge! I've only cammed a few days so far and I LOVE it, but beating myself up for not doing enough research or finding this KICKASS FORUM first. You guys rock!!!
roast
07-08-2013, 02:20 PM
1. Yes, and yes it does. It isnt a simple no one will care just some people have been able to studio hop from IM into DP, or IM into other studios. Have you contacted IM or SM to ask to be released? Sometimes contacting SM can decrease the likelihood of success to be released from IM. There are a few IM success stories in this thread, some people wait out the year to be released and dont stream for an entire year, some negotiate with IM (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?160099-How-to-sign-up-for-sites-directly-to-earn-more-%28aka-avoid-studios%29&p=2455789&viewfull=1#post2455789) to be released, (most from SW) just use DP, others use other studios. So you do have other options asides from DP. DP is just the most common.
2.
By hopping into DailyPay in order to hop out just note youd have to have a new stage name to hop into DP, then a new stage name/email addy to hop out. So if youve bought a website domain or anything, underscores count as a 'new stagename', so if youre EstherBaggins, you can do Esther_Baggins or even Esther__Baggins and each counts as a new stagename.
So yes, you can change just one character of your original screen name. It just cannot be the exact same one. Additionally your email address cannot be the same for each "hop" out of studios. So if you hop into DP from IM, you have to have a new stagename and email address. If you hop from IM to independent, you have to have a new stagename and email address than your previous incarnations.
3.
Virtual studio to DP is largely successful with probably a 98% success rate. Most failed app's usually come down to the member emailing Vanessa/Liz/the studio or one of the SM staff matching a username from a thread here up with a new application for DP.
^From the studio owner of DP. They used to have a help file on how to leave virtual studios for DP here (http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45:how-to-signup-for-streamate-if-you-already-have-a-streamate-account&catid=5:faq-and-how-tos), best to submit a help ticket on their website (http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/joomla/index2.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=4) for more details, but dont contact Streamate or IM directly is their suggestion.
Also bear in mind you can hop into DP and then hop out and be on your own independently. I dont know the timeframe but be aware that there is usually a week or two between your previous accounts being fully deleted in order for you to start again.
4. DP will not send you a 1099, but Streamate still does claim your earnings to the IRS. Independently SM does send 1099s. However, not all US based webcam sites even send 1099s. Youre responsible for filing your own taxes, can be done without a 1099. A chunk of my earnings dont have 1099s attached but I still report the,, I use a CPA and tax forums where verified specialists post for more info on latest state/federal laws for this. That's my (strong) suggestion but some do use this forum for tax advice as well.
5. Streamate offers checks by mail which is free if you dont use their FedEx service, this only can work if you use DailyPay's weekly service. However if you want to use Payoneer, Payoneer has its own Official Support thread here (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?156029-Payoneer-Official-Support-Thread) as well as its official website's very detailed FAQs here (http://www.payoneer.com/faq.aspx). You can use direct deposit via Payoneer without getting a card for Streamate payments, a Payoneer card is what incurs fees depending on the website and how much time it takes to load each payment as well as monthly maintenance fees, ATM fees, and the cost of the card itself. If youre familiar with prepaid debit cards it has similar fees and deductions like those kinds of cards. If you send Payoneer a blank check (crossed out and invalidated) they can set up direct deposit for Streamate. You have to have a bank with a checking account in order to do this. Best to defer Payoneer related questions to the official support thread though as the person who runs it is a Payoneer employee.
6. Weekly pay is a higher percentage and Streamate are the ones who pay you. DailyPay is 24hrs after the cutoff period, is 30% and the Daily Pay studio pays you. I cant personally say which is more reliable, it is by your discretion. If you want my opinion if you want the highest guarantee of reliability (going by scanning some of the DailyPay forums) go for weekly pay as Streamate are the ones who processes and sends your payment. DailyPay offers direct deposit for US members with $3 fee per transfer (unless your daily payout is $200 then it is free. Best to check their site's FAQs as posted here (http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46:us-ach-direct-deposit-service&catid=5:faq-and-how-tos)) however... and again, this is my opinion only: their website does not have SSL or protective apps/software installed on their website and you have to send your bank details either via their website or by email, which is not secure as secure as submitting it to a site with security apps installed. However, I am unaware of any issues anyone has had and I dont use this service so I cant speak firsthand to any issues, so again: use your discretion and/or contact people who use this service or read ther DailyPay forums (http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/forum/) for feedback. Best to contact members who are open about using the DaiyPay service and dropping them a PM to see if they have feedback, easiest to find them in posts discussing DailyPay. Additionally, I am not sure how DailyPay and Payoneer direct deposit works (or if it does, Id anticipate it only does if you use weekly pay), so you may want to contact Payoneer and or the DailyPay service for details.
7. If they are in certain countries it is 35%, since you asked about 1099s youre probably in the US, so independently it is 35% for you, yes. 30% with DailyPay (plus direct deposit fees directly via their service if youre under $200 per day, ), 33% if it is weekly.
8. You may want to scan through the last few pages and/or contact TheBrownFox, CourtneyRaine, KristiMax and others who have offered info via PM for feedback on how easy itis or not to leave IM. It isnt super simple as you do have to "hop" from service to service and wait for profiles to be closed, then approved. Or if you want to leave DP again wait for profiles to be closed, then approved and become independent at 35%. If youre asking how you can begin to earn as much as top performers, that is a pretty subjective and difficult to answer in this thread. Id suggest checking out the advice and tips in the thread about Starting Place for CamGirls (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?150383-Starting-Place-For-Cam-Girls), then The Streamate Thread (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?156623-The-Streamate-Thread).
Let me know if you need any clarification
luvnrockets
07-08-2013, 03:24 PM
OMG thank you so much roast!!!! You are my lord and savior! You deserve all the gold in the world!
Srsly though why are you so awesome????
*kisses roast's feet nonconsentually*
You've cleared up a lot for me. I'm in no rush and don't mind a few weeks without pay if it means 33% after that. I did contact Vanessa and IM initially after I realized my mistake, and they both said sorry, it is what it is, but this was before I knew about DP and so there was no mention of it.
I guess I'll wait till this pay period is up, or wait till next month when I'll be away and won't be able to cam anyway, and get this ball rolling...
The only thing that isn't clear to me is that DP's site says to cancel with SM and then reapply on DP's site, even if you were with a studio. So should I just leave IM out of it? Like, will SM be ok to officially close my account that way? Vanessa said she needed IM's ok to open a new account, but to just send contact a note to close it would be different?
98% success rate sure does make me happies!
Love you roast!
roast
07-08-2013, 03:52 PM
3.
^From the studio owner of DP. They used to have a help file on how to leave virtual studios for DP here (http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45:how-to-signup-for-streamate-if-you-already-have-a-streamate-account&catid=5:faq-and-how-tos), best to submit a help ticket on their website (http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/joomla/index2.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=4) for more details, but dont contact Streamate or IM directly is their suggestion.
^Id suggest sending them a help ticket and asking how to proceed? And alert them that you contacted Vanessa already. Im unclear if you asked IM if you could be released, but Id suggest before doing anything else - if youre interested in DP as an exit strategy, submit a help ticket and await their response on how to move forward. Best to be succinct in the email but ensure you mention that you live in the USA and are under Internet Modeling.
Just as a head's up to you and to people reading this thread - Vanessa can only help independent models on Streamate. She is the Official (Independent) Streamate Models representative, so she can not offer support to members of DailyPay.
Good luck! Keep us posted on how this all goes
luvnrockets
07-08-2013, 03:58 PM
Thanks again! Will definitely update when progress has been made!
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Blondieblue
07-16-2013, 08:57 PM
I'm sorry to be a pain in the ass by posting yet another question LOL. When I was first applying for camming sites, I accidently signed up with streamate and one of their studios at the same time. When I found out I signed up for a studio.... I just logged in through streamate directly.... and not the studio.
I e mailed streamate about being put on weekly pay, and they said I'd have to contact the studio. So I asked if I could be released from the studio, and still work for streamate. I explained the situation of not knowing I'd signed up through a studio.
This is the response I got: Accounts in studios are protected. You are not able to just close the account and make a new one. The account must be released and closed by the studio before we can approve any new account for you. Please contact your studio account manager to see if they will close and release your account with them. Thank you,
So I'm wondering if you all think the studio would release me? And I thought I read something on the board... about there being a waiting period after being released from a studio.... before you could sign up for streamate directly? I just don't want to close the studio account.... then not be able to work on streamate at all.