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Natalllia
09-02-2011, 11:23 AM
I haven't been here that long, but I've definitely noticed it recently. A lot of people being unnecessarily cruel. And now apparently we're pointing fingers at the cam girls to say we're really not that bad.

Eh, I might be one of the ones to leave. Caustic bitches aren't really my thing.


Did you really just defend yourself as a camgirl against non camgirls and then call the rest of us bitches? Lol ok.

That's not how I read that at all. She said "we" - as in "we dancers". Her profile defines her as an exotic dancer.

In any case, I didn't feel like she was calling the rest of us bitches. This whole thread is about the fact that there are incidents of bitchery happening, and I read her post to mean that she's not really down with that kind of thing (not that everyone here is a bitch).
To be honest, I agree with her.

ETA - okay, the whole thread is actually about cliques forming, but the bitchiness and ganging up that sometimes goes on is clearly a part of that.

camille27
09-02-2011, 11:29 AM
who is ambercutie and why does she keep getting mentioned? after googling, i remain underwhelmed and confused.

J.D.
09-02-2011, 11:38 AM
Ladies, it's all part of your initiation. Let's call it hazing. If you can make it past the bitchiness, you can become one of us! :)


Back in the day, Mediocrity, me, and ViolaStrings were some of the bitchiest bitches on this forum..... but we also contributed the most advice and information!

kaiarose
09-02-2011, 11:56 AM
As mod of camming connection I can vouch that there's a whole lotta drama and bitchiness in that forum. Would I call it cliquey?? Ehh, not really. More like a whole lot of competiveness and not enough support towards one another. I have mentioned time and time again that there needs to be more positivity but I just get ignored and then guess what? People get pointed. However, I am guilty as well because I did thank a few posts on here that hated on camming but we need to ease up. I'm actually going to go back and unthank some posts because I should be staying neutral.
I personally don't see any real cliqueness on this site. A few girls are friends on here and banter back and forth but I haven't seen a whole group of people standing out from the crowd.

J.D.
09-02-2011, 12:15 PM
As mod of camming connection I can vouch that there's a whole lotta drama and bitchiness in that forum. Would I call it cliquey?? Ehh, not really. More like a whole lot of competiveness and not enough support towards one another. I have mentioned time and time again that there needs to be more positivity but I just get ignored and then guess what? People get pointed. However, I am guilty as well because I did thank a few posts on here that hated on camming but we need to ease up. I'm actually going to go back and unthank some posts because I should be staying neutral.
I personally don't see any real cliqueness on this site. A few girls are friends on here and banter back and forth but I haven't seen a whole group of people standing out from the crowd.

I don't get why there is so much more cattiness/competitiveness/jealousy in that industry versus stripping......

I ALWAYS say there are two types of women in this world..... the type that will see another beautiful woman walk in the room and immediately try to pick out a flaw. "OMG, look at her hair/outfit/whatever" and gossip about it. Then there are the second types of women, that are either oblivious to other women around them (me most of the time) or recognize and genuinely appreciate another woman's beauty without feeling threatened, and will compliment her. I feel like 99% of strippers are this second type. I've never had girls gossip about me, but I have had many other beautiful strippers hit on me! :-* I've had sooo many others dancers come up to me at work and tell me how hot they think I am, how they always point me out to customers while I'm on stage, just really sweet compliments, and I do the same to other dancers. I don't get why camming isn't more like this... :shrug:

kaiarose
09-02-2011, 12:19 PM
^ I think because camming is such a competive industry right now. There are limited sites to cam on unlike the 1000's of SC's there are to strip at. Alot of camgirls are trying to scare off competition by posting the most negative things about camming and posting alot of shit talk about other camgirls. Hopefully they will see this thread and realize just how negative the section is. I say this in support of you camgirls. Ya'll need to stop hating on each other. Sure, many of us dancers butt heads on this site but we have so many positive and supportive threads on here as well.

4everresolutions
09-02-2011, 12:24 PM
Ladies, it's all part of your initiation. Let's call it hazing. If you can make it past the bitchiness, you can become one of us! :)


Back in the day, Mediocrity, me, and ViolaStrings were some of the bitchiest bitches on this forum..... but we also contributed the most advice and information!

And I was terrified of all three of you. 8)

Elusive21
09-02-2011, 12:26 PM
I havent noticed any stripper VS. camgirl bitching either. Did I miss something? :-\




Back in the day, Mediocrity, me, and ViolaStrings were some of the bitchiest bitches on this forum..... but we also contributed the most advice and information!

Damn - I sure do miss Viola Strings. Whatever happened to her?

kaiarose
09-02-2011, 12:29 PM
^ there was one little thread that had a snippet of that but I'm going to nip this in the ass and say, no there's not really any cam girl vs stripper drama. Just more of, not enough love amongst each other.

Aurora_Sunset
09-02-2011, 12:31 PM
I havent noticed any stripper VS. camgirl bitching either. Did I miss something? :-\

Yeah, I never really see that. I know there was a thread awhile back in camming connection about how some dancers view camgirls, but that was referencing girls who danced and cammed and had dealt with other dancers talking shit about camgirls in person. I've never been witness to any real camgirl vs. stripper drama on here. There's some stuff that gets brought up now and again about why a girl cams instead of dances or why a girl dances instead of cams, and I've seen some girls get a little miffed when someone implies that one is better than the other. But these usually don't turn into massive fallouts. I think most of the camgirls stick to camming connection anyway, so I don't know where they would end up butting heads, except on topics that have nothing to do with dancing or camming anyway.

Kellydancer
09-02-2011, 12:43 PM
Ladies, it's all part of your initiation. Let's call it hazing. If you can make it past the bitchiness, you can become one of us! :)


Back in the day, Mediocrity, me, and ViolaStrings were some of the bitchiest bitches on this forum..... but we also contributed the most advice and information!

I think both you and Mediocrity are cool and don't think I've had problems with either of you (except perhaps a disagreement or two but nothing that sticks out). Both of you have posted threads I thought were amazing. I don't think I've had much interaction with Viola Strings at all, or if I did I don't remember (and likely wasn't nasty). In fact almost every time you post something "mean" (as in being mean to customers usually)I smile because it reminds me a lot of how I enjoyed being mean to customers at times.

I agree with you that most dancers fall into the category that they either aren't jealous of other women or rather oblivious. I've rarely encountered a jealous dancer and the ones I have never lasted long. Oh sure, I got jealous when one dancer gets customers I wanted but it's the way of the business. I've always been of the opinion that I am far hotter even now than most non sex workers and why be jealous? This seems to be the attitude of almost every woman in the industry. As you know you need a thick skin to survive and the weak never survive.

J.D.
09-02-2011, 12:47 PM
I think both you and Mediocrity are cool and don't think I've had problems with either of you (except perhaps a disagreement or two but nothing that sticks out). Both of you have posted threads I thought were amazing. I don't think I've had much interaction with Viola Strings at all, or if I did I don't remember (and likely wasn't nasty). In fact almost every time you post something "mean" (as in being mean to customers usually)I smile because it reminds me a lot of how I enjoyed being mean to customers at times.

I agree with you that most dancers fall into the category that they either aren't jealous of other women or rather oblivious. I've rarely encountered a jealous dancer and the ones I have never lasted long. Oh sure, I got jealous when one dancer gets customers I wanted but it's the way of the business. I've always been of the opinion that I am far hotter even now than most non sex workers and why be jealous? This seems to be the attitude of almost every woman in the industry. As you know you need a thick skin to survive and the weak never survive.

Kellydancer, you and I have definitely had a our disagreements in threads, but there's zero animosity now.... I've had many disagreements with people I usually agree with/get a long with on here, and I honestly enjoy it! It gives me a chance to gain a new perspective.....

I think some of the new girls on the forum are just too sensitive and get butt hurt easily.

Kellydancer
09-02-2011, 12:53 PM
They really do. I understand getting upset when someone takes something personal, but not because of disagreeing. I am fine with having disagreements with people and I know I have said things I later regretted. That happens a lot in forums where people misunderstand what someone else wrote. There are many people here where I disagreed with in one thread, and defend them in another. To me disagreements is far different than provoking people months, even years later.

MissKatie
09-02-2011, 12:53 PM
I havent noticed any stripper VS. camgirl bitching either. Did I miss something? :-\



Nor me. And I haven't seen any in camming either. It seems like a whole lot of dancers seem to think there is, and any cammers get ignored when they say otherwise... :O

AmyLynne
09-02-2011, 12:59 PM
I think another poster had it right when she said that many of the camgirls seem to be scaring off their competitors or intimidating them. Trashing studios, making posts about camsites that are just blatantly slander etc. Seriously if sites and studios ar ethat bad they should just go independent!

The negativity started a year ago when camming became a part of the site and Im speaking as someone who has been in both industries.

Noa
09-02-2011, 01:28 PM
Studios should get trashed - 99.9% of them are scams. And a camming section should be critical of cam sites. We exchange experiences, information, and opinions. A blindly obedient and ignorant camgirl will not last long.

I don't see any stripper v. camgirl tension, though I might be oblivious. I don't even see any camgirl v. camgirl cliquishness, just the occasional disruption. But I do see a lot of effort from a very small but vocal minority insisting that there *is* some sort of division. It doesn't make it true, it just makes some people louder than others.

Vyanka
09-02-2011, 01:55 PM
There's a lot of bickering on this site for the most dumbest shit, i'll say that. Any little thing converts into gossip/drama. It's so fkn ghey and immature. It needs to stop. I don't get involved into that kinda shit, bc I don't give a shit. It wasn't like this when I first joined(back in 04). At least I never noticed it. Everyone was so laid back, respectable of one another, and chill. It felt very welcoming. Now some ppl jump down on ppl's throat for NO reason. So stupid.

michele11
09-02-2011, 02:24 PM
Athena started this thread about it becoming cliquey here not cam girls vs strippers or strippers hating on strippers or being jealous were not in the club working together it's a public forum for crying out loud.This thread is way off topic.

kaiarose
09-02-2011, 02:27 PM
This thread was going to go bad in the first place :/ I shouldn't have contributed what I did but I don't think I said anything dishonest and yes it has gone off topic..

michele11
09-02-2011, 02:41 PM
^ No you didn't it's like girls are now competing on who gives the most info around here and whose hotter etc but yeah I figued this would turn into a bitchfest too.

BlkSharpie
09-02-2011, 03:09 PM
Im a clique of one. Im the hottest, and I give the best info. And I agree with everything I say.

Id let other people into my clique, but Im such a bitch...I almost didnt let myself into it.

Cause im hardcore..thats how I roll.

Anyway, seriously..I like everyone, except the people I dont like, but they dont know it, cause I dont take anything personally, no one has affected me or my business personally so, nothing to get riled up about. Even people I dont like say interesting or helpful things sometimes, thats all that matters to me.

I click on topics I find interesting, no matter what section of the board its in. I notice the cliquey stuff, but generally when things start going downhill, I unsubscribe from the thread and move on. Its when it seems like every thread goes downhill that I just take a break fromt he board for awhile...sometimes a couple days, or a couple weeks, one time it took me a few months, I forgot to check back in. lol

Optimist
09-02-2011, 04:24 PM
Athena started this thread about it becoming cliquey here not cam girls vs strippers or strippers hating on strippers or being jealous were not in the club working together it's a public forum for crying out loud.This thread is way off topic.


This thread was going to go bad in the first place :/ I shouldn't have contributed what I did but I don't think I said anything dishonest and yes it has gone off topic..

Unless the OP is uncomfortable I think it's OK to talk it out. Camming is an interesting firecracker of a subforum and it's cool to get your debate on about it just like any of the rest of the subforums. :) Hug it out, bitches! :hug:

tempest666
09-02-2011, 05:43 PM
I'm starting my own clique....it's called the Just Got Big Tits Feeling Constipated Mafia. In order to join you must have had a BA in the past week, be bigger than a D and you can't have taken a shit in the past 4 days :D

Athenathefabulous
09-02-2011, 07:01 PM
Athena started this thread about it becoming cliquey here not cam girls vs strippers or strippers hating on strippers or being jealous were not in the club working together it's a public forum for crying out loud.This thread is way off topic.

yea it wasnt a cam girl v stripper thread... to be honest the cam girls have their own isolated drama that i am in no way involved in. maybe i should have posted this in the stripping general section?

i have 0 issues with girls ganging up on the blues also. they deserve it.


Ladies, it's all part of your initiation. Let's call it hazing. If you can make it past the bitchiness, you can become one of us!


Back in the day, Mediocrity, me, and ViolaStrings were some of the bitchiest bitches on this forum..... but we also contributed the most advice and information!


You guys contributed a lot of info. So i always thought it was cool (and hilarious). it seems like lately though, some of the clique-ier members dont even contribute that much useful information. usually its something useless with bitchy comment, a few thank yous, and then a lot of agreement over said useless comment.

:shrug: its not that important anyway. I partly posted this because i am not even sure if said members who i find to be clique-y are aware they might be alienating other people on here (or maybe they did/do and dont care). I think im just going to put a bunch of members on ignore for a while and only respond to posts that i can actually contribute something useful to. except for this thread where i will continue to contribute useless information :P.

lilykane
09-02-2011, 08:00 PM
That's not how I read that at all. She said "we" - as in "we dancers". Her profile defines her as an exotic dancer.

In any case, I didn't feel like she was calling the rest of us bitches. This whole thread is about the fact that there are incidents of bitchery happening, and I read her post to mean that she's not really down with that kind of thing (not that everyone here is a bitch).
To be honest, I agree with her.

ETA - okay, the whole thread is actually about cliques forming, but the bitchiness and ganging up that sometimes goes on is clearly a part of that.

I actually didn't see BOTM's comment b/c I put her on ignore. But yes, Natallia got it right. I'm a stripper. Anyway, I was not calling everyone bitches. I think the majority of the girls here are wonderful. They're funny and helpful. I made the camming comment b/c some girls here were saying that the strippers aren't nearly as catty as the camgirls. Seems like a cheap shot.

BUT, there are a few girls who are just downright nasty to people, and that's what I can't stand. And that's the clique that answers every thread and turns it into a "who can outsnark the other" contest.

Kellydancer
09-02-2011, 08:41 PM
I'm starting my own clique....it's called the Just Got Big Tits Feeling Constipated Mafia. In order to join you must have had a BA in the past week, be bigger than a D and you can't have taken a shit in the past 4 days :D

Ah shucks that leaves me out. I'm only a C-D naturally. However, based on the other part about constipation I am eligible (TMI).

Btw congrats on your surgery.

obscurity
09-02-2011, 10:19 PM
I never noticed this, but then again I tend to ignore things like that. I will say though that this does seem to happen on all message board eventually. This is true if people meet each other offline and develop a connection. In general I've noticed this on almost message boards: a group of people become a clique then attack others not in their clique. Sometimes they try to get others banned, sometimes they just enjoy attacking. Often these same people spin off from the message board and start their own. Then often the same thing happens when people from the clique spin off and on and on. I haven't noticed it this bad here yet.

have you guys noticed that when you google SW...under the actual site is a string of banned ppl on these threads...neg stuff etc...about such topics as these.

Kellydancer
09-02-2011, 11:35 PM
have you guys noticed that when you google SW...under the actual site is a string of banned ppl on these threads...neg stuff etc...about such topics as these.

I've never noticed that. Do you mean from posts here or from other sites? I'm going to Google it now because I am curious.

MissKatie
09-03-2011, 09:21 AM
I'm starting my own clique....it's called the Just Got Big Tits Feeling Constipated Mafia. In order to join you must have had a BA in the past week, be bigger than a D and you can't have taken a shit in the past 4 days :D

Not fair! That's discrimination against girls who are 3+ months post op already >:( I'm starting my own club!!!

shift_6x
09-03-2011, 10:47 AM
It is a waste of time to worry about the "cliques" here. I could care less really. The best thing to do is comment when u want and the few or many who respond chat with. Dont worry about all of those who dont agree with ur PoV thats a waste of time to worry about bc everyone sees things differently. It is nice to have a forum to find those who do agree with ur POV. And thats the point of SW to find support from those who can relate.

papillonluvr
09-03-2011, 02:46 PM
have you guys noticed that when you google SW...under the actual site is a string of banned ppl on these threads...neg stuff etc...about such topics as these.

OMG I never knew SW was so popular. gonna go troll through some of these sites now.

Optimist
09-03-2011, 05:12 PM
Holy CRAP! I just googled and there really are other sites obsessed with this site. These people are crazy as hell! :O

camille27
09-03-2011, 06:18 PM
yeah, dudes on the internet obsessed with dancers. i want to be shocked but...

MissKatie
09-03-2011, 07:15 PM
Holy CRAP! I just googled and there really are other sites obsessed with this site. These people are crazy as hell! :O

I love this:

"I'd bet a substantial quanitity of cash that less than 1/4 of the women commenting on there are actually female strippers that aren't repulsive looking."

Found here from a post in 2007 - http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?34086-Stripperweb-poll-quot-Favorite-Penis-Size-quot

hehe if only they knew right... ;D

Kellydancer
09-03-2011, 08:52 PM
OMG I never knew SW was so popular. gonna go troll through some of these sites now.

Me too. I found one that made a very nasty thread about a well loved poster here so I'm going to go look at it myself. I'm sure these forums are the guys who can't get laid and wish they had a woman, let alone an attractive one.

velvet
09-03-2011, 10:23 PM
I havent noticed any stripper VS. camgirl bitching either. Did I miss something? :-\



Damn - I sure do miss Viola Strings. Whatever happened to her?

She's fine and on the other site.

lokikola
09-05-2011, 10:47 AM
This makes me think of when I first joined. I made a thread about how I had posted someone's nude photos online for revenge and it didn't work out (nobody cared to look at them or figure out who it was...... whatevs). A lot of people were pissed in that thread and I think a lot of people disliked me right off the bat because of that. Specifically I remember BOTM saying something about get a life and that she is younger than me yet knows better that to do some shit like that........ seriously what a bitch (just kidding :D), but nowadays she stands out to me as someone who holds her ground and is really strong (Camille is also another chick who stands out to me), I think of myself as a strong individual as well so I end up being able to relate to her more often than not and find her sarcasm to be pretty fn funny.
There is only one person from that whole thread who really did piss me off but I put her on ignore and from what I've read recently she is banned.
A lot of people who disagreed with me are people who I don't have problems with, appreciate their posts, and have great info/tips to share, and even make me laugh.

So point of my post is even someone like me, who pissed a lot of people off on post number one can still enjoy the site and reap benefits from it. The same people who were ripping my ass in that one thread were the people who told me to relax and that everything would work out when I auditioned and started dancing. Overall this forum, regardless of any bitchiness, cattiness, cliques is a fabulous place.

And this is why I think I deserve to be Miss StripperWeb 2011. *bow*

camille27
09-05-2011, 12:04 PM
awww loki is so cute

Optimist
09-05-2011, 02:47 PM
and this is why i think i deserve to be miss stripperweb 2011. *bow*

:D Love it!

camille27
09-05-2011, 04:26 PM
loki is a good example. it's not personal until you consistently act a fool and then it's like....but why are you...
i totally forgot about loki's thread and she's one of the members i hope to meet up with. so we all have moments and they're pretty quickly forgotten. and when they aren't... thank you, pryce, for the ignore function.

Jessie_tinydancer
09-06-2011, 05:34 AM
Meh havent noticed really but theres entire sections I don't look at because I get too worked up when I read the BS that comes out of peoples keyboards.

DesuvsDeath
09-06-2011, 02:32 PM
I havent noticed any stripper VS. camgirl bitching either. Did I miss something? :-\

I don't ever really see it, either.
I just assumed this was related to the odd stripper showing up in CC to tell the cam girls that they should've asked this question on some other section of the board... to which the cam girls usually say something to the effect of "I'm good, thanks." or "You're not a mod, fuck off and don't tell me where to post." Ya know?

Or the fact that a lot of the strippers seem view the cam girls self-segregation to CC as clique-y. Maybe that's what people keep referring to?

jasmine22
09-23-2011, 02:19 AM
Those of you who work in a sc with no drama and everyone gets along consider yourselves lucky. Clubs can be way too competitive and ive seen it on this forum. You guys saying cam girls are catty and strippers aren't.....hmmm ok. Never had a girl step on your toes in the club?? A lot of women are catty doesn't matter what industry your in. Lol thats just most women and its unfortunate. I've been guilty of it many times, but it decreases w age. The forum is cliquey sure but that's life. Life seems to be all about who you know and kiss ass to get ahead. Sigh I like to be an independent thinker.

Kellydancer
09-23-2011, 10:57 AM
Those of you who work in a sc with no drama and everyone gets along consider yourselves lucky. Clubs can be way too competitive and ive seen it on this forum. You guys saying cam girls are catty and strippers aren't.....hmmm ok. Never had a girl step on your toes in the club?? A lot of women are catty doesn't matter what industry your in. Lol thats just most women and its unfortunate. I've been guilty of it many times, but it decreases w age. The forum is cliquey sure but that's life. Life seems to be all about who you know and kiss ass to get ahead. Sigh I like to be an independent thinker.

I think those who claim everything is wonderful and everyone gets along at their club are in many cases exaggerating. Maybe they are just lucky, but in most clubs I worked at there was strong competition and outright bitchiness.

Women are always catty. It unfortunately doesn't always decrease by age because I still meet nasty women who will make comments.

kthnx
10-01-2011, 11:46 PM
Yeah seriously about catty women at all ages. The irritating secretary at my work was catty and often made backhanded insults. She's gotta be in her mid 50s. I remember a few yrs ago she acted all friendly to me one day In the break room but asked nosy questions about my relationship, such as if I thought I'd be getting proposed to anytime soon, and when I acted evasive becuz I didn't feel like revealing stuff about my dating life, she assumed aloud I was alone/single (not true) and said "eh I guess u like being alone then". When I admitted in the same convo I was interested in buying a house soon she told me I'd absolutely need no less than 20% down (again not true) becuz she (rightfully) assumed I didn't have that. About two months later I had to see her for a change of address form becuz I was closing on a house that very week. She said in a really condescending voice "REALLY?? u SURE ur buying that house? Maybe u should make sure u actually got the mortgage first before changing ur address???" It's like hello bitch, obviously I got the mortgage approved if I've had all the docs finalized and approved for the past two-to-four weeks at the lowest int rate on the market and obviously everything's all approved if I'm closing the very...next...day. Uggghhhhhhh. So yea I guess it can happen anywhere and at any age.

Anyone else notice that a lot of head secretaries/admin assistants tend to be really catty and irritating? The secretary at my high school yrs back was a bitch too (was a snob, constantly told me I couldn't do things I WAS allowed to do, only nice thing she said to me all 4 yrs was "nice SAT score" and that's only becuz my mom was right there telling her I got >1400 out of 1600; also, treated my friend who later worked as a custodian there like he was beneath her). And the secretary at a temp agency I worked at a few yrs ago was really bitchy too and would try to make people feel like they HAD to accept anything even when we had better prospects at hand. Must be part of the job description.



As for SW being catty, here it goes. It was cliquey and catty before all those losers like Chrissy left the site for the other site, and now its starting to get cliquey again with some of the younger and/or immature members. Not sayin any current names tho

krchab99
10-05-2011, 01:50 PM
Lol today's is my first day back here in two years and I've always known this site is cliqy but it don't bother I was briefly involved in the cliq thing but i just enjoy the site I got caught up in it when we were doing those secret Santa things that was so much drama it was unreal I have a long history on this site and a lot of memorys I'm happy to be here if you want me in your cliqe or not

Star Kitten
10-09-2011, 07:58 AM
You have been asked more than once now to explain exactly WHAT you think Hottie did to starkitten? And it has also been explained to you that some girls on here feel more comfortable posting things about earnings, hustling tips etc, where punters cannot see. If you don't like that, there is no pressure on you to join. Saying that the whole idea of verification is "wrong" is generalizing a whole load of us (49 girls to be precise) as "sucks".

Sorry just saw this post.. H0ttie didn't do anything to me, other than verify me, it wasn't herself that was pressuring me, it was some of the other camgirls, one in particular, calling me out because I initially wouldn't verify.

All is ok now, however.. :)

nadia29
10-09-2011, 08:52 PM
Sorry just saw this post.. H0ttie didn't do anything to me, other than verify me, it wasn't herself that was pressuring me, it was some of the other camgirls, one in particular, calling me out because I initially wouldn't verify.

All is ok now, however.. :)

Is it really worth it getting verified? I'm fine with the email, but I really can't be bothered to write something on a piece of paper and take my picture with it. That's what stopped me from joining MGF. I did it for AW, but that's where I make my money! Is being in this group going to enhance my life in anyway?